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AMD's Llano Fusion Chips Coming Summer 2011

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September 14, 2010 2:16:33 PM

I was hoping for a bit earlier on Llano. This gives a pretty large lead to intel as far as time. Any news on Scorpius/BD?
September 14, 2010 2:19:24 PM

The 'Whoa' I usually use is when something is slow... Followed by me considering hitting my head on the desk! BTW No AMD hate, great with decent integrated products in the pipeline
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September 14, 2010 2:35:27 PM

I didn't know this was possible but I am glad this is happening.
September 14, 2010 2:36:44 PM

"Whoa"? Is Keano Reeves one of there partners?
September 14, 2010 2:36:48 PM

Honestly, I had thought the title was implying they weren't impressed and wanted to stop it until I read the article.

Now I'm left wondering if the partners sounded like Keanu Reeves in nearly every movie he has been in, or was it more like Joey Lawrence type of whoa?
September 14, 2010 2:38:53 PM

ok, so they're starting out in the netbook market, where Intel already has dominance (mostly anyway). They come out with a whole new tech that changes the game, the way motherboards need to be setup, and give hardware vendors a headache to gather support for this tech while Intel continues their lead on their HT CPU's and force feed people that "more cores = 'better!'" They may still have the lead for awhile against Nvidia, but Intel is going to be tricky to top.

I love this idea from AMD, my only fear is that Intel will have already gotten too far ahead of them by the time this tech comes out.
September 14, 2010 2:44:37 PM

when I see whoa, I hear wohoho (chandler from friends)
September 14, 2010 2:47:47 PM

DX11 capable integrated gpu within a quad core cpu that's being brought onto the market, starting off with netbooks/notebooks? This is gonna be pretty cool.
Honestly, when I saw "woah" I actually took it as.
"Woah, serious ***'s happening."
Anonymous
September 14, 2010 2:50:32 PM

The Future is FUSION!!!
Anonymous
September 14, 2010 2:53:02 PM

some performance charts and specs would be nice
Anonymous
September 14, 2010 2:57:27 PM

@superblahman123

i share your concern, except what does intel have up their sleeve, sandy bridge.....

if i recall Lynx uses a llano core too, so maybe we might see lynx first half 2011 too
September 14, 2010 3:11:02 PM

there are a few things that i ahve to say/ask.

1 this is a cpu+gpu in one chip. assuming that, aren't cpus suppose to be cooler than gpus? wouldn't this be a complete pain to cool?

2 @superblahman123 more cores are better, however that is physical cores, logical are hit and miss.

also intel was trying to make a gpu, and had to abandon it, kind of. apparently they made it as powerful as a nvidia 280, but nothing realy came of it yet, and so far, at lest netbook wise, less power is better, and 1 chip instead of 2 would be far better and possibly leave more room for something else, amd has the potential to completely own this market for the next 2 years, unless intel or nvidia do something amassing.

and with notebooks, same thing, if they make a portable phenom 955 and hd5770 equivalent, than they own the notebook market, but they wouldn't own the desktop replacement by the time he notebook version hits.
September 14, 2010 3:30:29 PM

More liek "woe' time wise they need to bring products to market sooner or they will continue to be only second best.
September 14, 2010 3:40:14 PM

GO AMD!!!
September 14, 2010 3:42:13 PM

Hopefully this gpu horsepower will be a vast improvement over existing ATI notebook gpu's. I've got two laptops with ati chips in them and they are garbage for doing anything other than business computing. Unless that happens I think this will be no more interesting than (maybe) a small cost reduction and a small power reduction.
September 14, 2010 3:46:51 PM

Good to know that the products are on the way. One can only hope that crossfire is possible between a fusion GPU and a dedicated card.
September 14, 2010 3:51:14 PM

I can`t wait to see the benchmarks, then insh`allah buy that up!
September 14, 2010 3:57:02 PM

Suprised no one has made a Joey Lawrence reference yet...
September 14, 2010 3:58:35 PM

If AMD produces a CPU and a GPU that’s decent on a single die the computer world will change. THIS IS HUGE!

Intel will lose its reign for a long time; the acquisition of ATI is about to pay off! Intel could be in trouble here, not only do they not have a decent GPU they also don't have a decent GPU on the same die as their CPU.

I’m considering buying AMD stocks right now! lol. The future is promising.
September 14, 2010 4:58:25 PM

I'm glad I switched back to AMD for my CPU. I've been really happy with the performance and I have had AMD cpu's going back to the 486 days. Kudos to AMD for trying!
September 14, 2010 6:04:11 PM

stifleGood to know that the products are on the way. One can only hope that crossfire is possible between a fusion GPU and a dedicated card.

wow some people dont listen of course they will be 5xxx and 6xxx GPUs
September 14, 2010 6:50:37 PM

Quote:
"Whoa"? Is Keano Reeves one of there partners?


and Joey Lawrence
September 14, 2010 7:24:15 PM

nforce4maxMore liek "woe' time wise they need to bring products to market sooner or they will continue to be only second best.


With Nvidia bringing out nothing but rehashes and intel happy to sit on their asses blocking the ION outright I think AMD has a sporting chance in '11 in the notebook sector. Desktop replacements however, that's IMHO still Intel's territory.
September 14, 2010 7:40:27 PM

gwellin"Whoa"? Is Keano Reeves one of there partners?

lol! nice... I hope these do well. That way Intel and Nvidia will get off their pedestal and lower their prices while making better products.
September 14, 2010 7:41:16 PM

i can't wait for benchmakrs. I'm hopeful for the technology to be a success but wary abotu it not beating seprate gpu/cpu setups and maybe not even having a better cost .. btu hopefully i'll be wrogn and it'll be awosme i'll buy one it so as soon as the desktop chips come out bout time to upgrade my socket 754
September 14, 2010 8:04:12 PM

In anyway the notebook department is the area where Intel has had biggest lead, so It is guite good sign that they try to challenge intel it that area. This can mean faster, cheaper notebooks in near future!
The problem is again Intel production technology lead. They can produce chips cheaper in smaller size than AMD for guite a long time. So this will not be an free ride to AMD even I am guite sure that the build in GPU is something that Intel can not touch in short run.
September 14, 2010 8:12:16 PM

there is a product demo of the 18 watt chip running city of heroes on a netbook
September 14, 2010 9:19:09 PM

AMD is dead. I wish they would just fold instead of confusing the market with their continued existence.
September 14, 2010 9:46:56 PM

I remember reading some speculation a while back that the GPU section of the Llano does not have to be used for graphics. They where talking about how the PS3 Cell processor and CUDA functions, and the CPU cores could use Stream processing of the attached GPU for data processing.
September 14, 2010 10:24:52 PM

so exited
hopefully enough power in laptops that have good battery life
Anonymous
September 14, 2010 11:25:49 PM

@sinfulpotato

it's not speculation, it's part of AMD's road map, they refer to it as an APU (all purpose Processing Unit) exactly similar to how Fermi's CUDA is setup except fully integrated into a CPU, designed to decimate repetetive intensive task

i would hazard that if they manage to get this equation right it's going blow intel out the waters, because an APU is going be cheaper cost, real estate and thermal wise to implement
September 14, 2010 11:57:42 PM

They better not stop making regular graphics cards....
September 15, 2010 12:36:43 AM

@ killerclick

looks like we found ourselves the classic Intel/nVidia fanboi. AMD is definitely not dead, their graphics cards are almost a generation ahead. The GTS 450 was just recently released to compete with the 5700 series, a card thats pretty much a year old, and the 5700 series still beats it. The cpu market may be slightly different Sandy Bridge is probably not supporting overclocking, and only has Sli/Xfire at x8. This will really make people think about using Intel for multi GPU configs, and will be a win for AMD
Anonymous
September 15, 2010 12:44:20 AM

I'll believe it when I see their stock price do better.
September 15, 2010 1:33:41 AM

Until we see some hard data on how these chips stack up against SB, I'll hold my excitement.
Anonymous
September 15, 2010 1:54:57 AM

Intel fanboys better shut there mouths. Without AMD dealing in the netbook's soon Intel will have the slow ATOM processor at the same price and speed for another 10 years on there net books. There are only two big processor companies and there is a reason there are only two! I respect AMD for being in that fast pace aggressive market where one day of sleeping your out!
September 15, 2010 2:34:21 AM

kelemvor4Hopefully this gpu horsepower will be a vast improvement over existing ATI notebook gpu's. I've got two laptops with ati chips in them and they are garbage for doing anything other than business computing.


uhhh helllloooooo what do you think ATI was all about for the last 20 years, only reason they weren't bought up by Nvidia or left in the dust with guillemont was they were making money at what they did best, business graphics.
September 15, 2010 3:26:14 AM

what about memory bandwidth and its effect on gaming. What type of memory does llano even use? ddr4 or ddr3? It's most likely going to be ddr 3 and so gaming performance will probably see a big hit. And im not talking about gddr.
Anonymous
September 15, 2010 5:15:46 AM

Even though I am an AMD fan I think they might have some little problems in the first gen products. It's like when the P4 processor cam out from INTEL It was slow at first because the pipeline was too big for what it had. The first cycle from AMD will be more of look at what we can do and here is the proof. AMD will one day take the speed crown but for now I would rather save money and take a little speed hit which isn't noticeable lol. If it wasn't for AMD Crysis would be at 10fps
September 15, 2010 5:15:57 AM

So AMD is upto this Llano - what else for AMD?
September 15, 2010 11:29:13 AM

ares1214I was hoping for a bit earlier on Llano. This gives a pretty large lead to intel as far as time. Any news on Scorpius/BD?


lead for what ??? the lano chip is a mix of gpu adn cpu , intel nixed thier gopu development they certainly arnt set up to add gpu functionality to their cpus, so again how does the release date of this give intel any thing ?
September 15, 2010 11:30:47 AM

killerclickAMD is dead. I wish they would just fold instead of confusing the market with their continued existence.



you got soemwserious issues to work out buddy , i mean dang , to hate acompany so bad you'd rather see the amrket controlled by oen company to the point htat all prices blow sky high ?? seriously go see a shrink
September 15, 2010 2:32:05 PM

otacon72Until AMD releases a CPU that can come anywhere near to matching Intel who cares. Sandy Bridge comes out in a few months and AMD will be a generation behind....again. Bulldozer, which I've been hearing about since 2008, is designed to compete with Intel’s present generation CPUs. After reading Anandtech's hands on review with a piece of Sandy Bridge silicon it's going to be ugly for AMD next year.



Doesnt matter if it costs half as much yet delivers a better graphics solution and comparable processing power at that price point. Its a NetBook... How fast does it need to go to check email and surf the web.

Now these OEM's can sell a netbook for less with a bright sexy screen with fairly high resolution that will run most videos and simple games with out any lag. Should also be a good solution for the HTPC market which is growing and poor college students who could care less about crysis and creep on facebook all day.

Unless youre running a high end server application or playing a crazy state of the art game that hasnt been biff'd for the console market then there's really no need to have the fastest horse in the stable.

If its cheaper and works most users wont care whose label is on the box...
September 15, 2010 2:43:41 PM

In common parlance one says "Whoa!" to stop something, like "Whoa, horse." They should have uses "Wow!" as in "HOLY S***!" to denote a degree of "awesomeness."

Now to the chip, I thought that SandyBridge also included a gpu, so how does this advance AMD's efforts to close the gap on Intel? It is that Llano will provide greater perfomance that the SB graphics?

I haven't been following this too closely lately and I am still more interested in desktops and separate graphics cards than in notebooks or netbooks.

Cheers.
Anonymous
September 15, 2010 3:54:29 PM

I want to buy a net book but I'm not going to spend $300 that's just stupid. AMD should have one that is quicker then Intel's and priced hopefully at $200. Then of course INTEL will drop there price as well.
September 15, 2010 4:13:41 PM

I have high hopes for an AMD comeback! I'll show my Intel fan friends just who's superior.
September 16, 2010 6:31:50 AM

This could prove to be good - price wise. Let's wait and watch.
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