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If the BIOS shows that the current SETTING for FSB is 400MHz, then it is 400MHz.
MEMTEST-86 probably will give you a more definitive answer. It seems to be up
to speed on its ability to read out settings from chipsets.
Hey, at least you got a one-year warranty, altho it sounds like the system was
represented to you as new, rather than used. HP's warranty on Pavilion systems
is no more than one year. A dealer (since closed, I wonder why?) around here
would give only a 90-day warranty on any used system he sold.
WD and other drive manufacturers distinguish between retail and OEM drives in
their warranties. Is the WD drive retail or OEM? Think of it this way. If the
drive fails after one year, the replacement cost of a new drive will be less
than $50 by then, given the steady erosion of prices in the computer biz.
.... Ben Myers
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:13:04 -0700, "ric" <nospam@home.com> wrote:
><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
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>>>I would tend to agree with you. The seller might argue "semantics."
>>>He insisted that the warranty is through him, and *not* through HP.
>>>At this point in time, I'm concerned that this may be a used or returned
>>>system, or have used parts. No real way to tell, is there?
>>
>> The warranty jolly well better be through him. He sold it to you.
>
>That's the rub. His warranty is one year. Western Digital has a
>three year warranty on their Caviar HDs, but entering my HD
>serial number on their site - while correctly identifying the HD -
>states that I have NO end user warranty through them. Other
>components in the system have longer than one year warranty,
>but aren't "end-user" covered in a system. So what happens if
>the HD fails after two years? I pay for a new one, but the retailer
>gets a free one under warranty from WD? Sweet deal!
>
>> I have sold IBM and Dell systems similar to what you describe, but I tell
>> the
>> buyer that they are refurbished, which is what they are. I also give my
>> own
>> one-year warranty, and have had to service exactly one system (hard drive
>> failure within a week) since I began doing so recently. If the original
>> computer box is solid and the parts put inside are good quality, then the
>> risk
>> of a hardware failure under warranty is small.
>
>Exactly. The seller gets away with selling "used" components in
>a "new" system. Chances of any failures occurring during the one
>year warranty period are slim. What a deal.
>
>>>Again, the seller *said* that it is 400 MHz FSB. Belarc doesn't list FSB.
>>>Is there a way to check this?
>>
>> Yes. AMD has a speed calibration utility available for download from its
>> web
>> site. It runs only with AMD CPUs. (Intel has a similar one.) Or
>> download and
>> run MEMTEST-86, a free memory diagnostic tool with accurate chipset and
>> speed
>> detection built-in... Ben Myers
>
>The AMD "CPUinfo" program has no FSB speed info, only a "not
>available" notation for system memory Bus speed, and gives BIOS
>version KM400-42302e31 rev 3.10. The BIOS shows a 400 MHz
>FSB, but that is just the CPU's capability, no?
>
>AMD lists the ASUS A7N8X Deluxe as a 400 MHz FSB board,
>and the A7V8X-X as a 333 MHz FSB board. The A7N8X has
>the NVIDIA chipset, while the A7V8X has a VIA KT-400 chipset.
>This makes me think that the A7V8Z-LA is just a 333 MHz FSB
>motherboard, no?
>
>Jeez...this is getting too complicated. <g>
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