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Call of Duty: Black Ops Getting Dedicated Servers

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September 14, 2010 1:11:23 PM

Better than nothing I guess. More than anything I just want to be able to pick the map I'm playing on, kick cheaters, and not have the game stop half-way because someone left. This plan achieves that... so I'm satisfied.

I know for some folks this won't be enough though.
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September 14, 2010 1:20:37 PM

MW2 on pc is filled with hackers , IW did a shitty job releasing a broken game.
Wallhack , aimbot , 10th prestige , no recoil , moded lobbies.
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September 14, 2010 1:20:43 PM

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
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September 14, 2010 1:22:31 PM

Goood! No more waiting for a new host, no more having to deal with the obvious hackers for the entire map, no more not being allowed to choose maps, and finally..finally, we can set up scrims against other clans a lot easier.
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September 14, 2010 1:23:27 PM

darkchazzMW2 on pc is filled with hackers , IW did a shitty job releasing a broken game.Wallhack , aimbot , 10th prestige , no recoil , moded lobbies.


Agreed, I love how they said VAC was going to do a good job at banning hackers. It seems like there's one or two in every game.
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September 14, 2010 1:25:43 PM

Yeah.. not bad. I guess. I just exited codmw2 before posting, clearly someone with no life is hacking the game at 9:30am.. seriously its just a matter of time before Black OPS gets plagued by the same retarded people. It's really not that great of a game to pay for servers yet if your hardcore all the power to ya!
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September 14, 2010 1:27:59 PM

Screw them. Gameservers are horrible in their support in troubleshooting issues and was glad to get rid of them and moved to a my own dedicated server colocated at a datacenter. This is still a huge "slap-in-the-face" for clans and other PC game enthusiasts that pour their money and time to create and control all aspects of their gaming experience. Another Call of Duty title to skip.
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September 14, 2010 1:29:26 PM

zipzoomflyhighThe problem is people like you kick people who are good, just because you get frustrated and THINK the person is cheating.


I have never seen someone who wasn't hacking get kicked. Most people will ignore a vote if they don't suspect anything.
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September 14, 2010 1:29:45 PM

I cant wait!!! I hope they left knife throwing in there. That is my favorite weapon :)  !

www.youtube.com/delanoche21 = Some Good Kill Cam Knife Throws (legit using eyefnity (three monitors))

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September 14, 2010 1:30:07 PM

Isn't this how all dedicated servers work? You have to pay for them?
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September 14, 2010 1:30:16 PM

Now, they search the way to say "We are giving you dedicated servers" while also making money. Activision style.
I wonder, what will happen to someone like me who lives in Spain, if I will be forced to play in foreign servers with higher ping because I can't rent CoD servers in my own country.
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September 14, 2010 1:34:53 PM

I can't tell if this is Better or worse. I'll go with "getting there, but not as good as BF3 will be"
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September 14, 2010 1:35:11 PM

Wow, nice job on keeping up on the news. This info was out almost two weeks ago. I guess you had to wait until IGN posted the video interview they did at the Sept 1st MP reveal event.

FYI, Treyarch has stated that the final max player #'s have yet to be finalized for both ranked and unranked servers.
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September 14, 2010 1:52:27 PM

I confess I play the COD series on a console (yes i know its not graphically as good) and the console version seems harder for hackers to cheat in the games. I cant see a lot of people paying for dedicated servers - this will do nothing but deter PC gamers from buying the game.

Agreed with the comments on hackers / cheaters / glitchers though. MW2 Fuel map - the rock that every sad SOB runs to hide under with a sniper rifle... why cant IW patch the game to get rid of this
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September 14, 2010 1:57:50 PM

An obvious step in the right direction. As a PC gamer I have totally ignored the online play of any COD:MW game due to the terrible cheating and obvious other flaws. I admit I am interested in playing this game but I going to take a wait and see approch to this one as well.
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September 14, 2010 2:00:55 PM

I see they're trying to get people to buy this game.

I saw a demo of the new game modes and really liked it, but then i thought about how crappy my mw2 experience was. You can't even play mw2 online w\ pc anymore. Last time i logged in, i was stuck in a horrible hacked server and couldn't get to any other server...

I'm still not blowing more than $30 on this.
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September 14, 2010 2:10:31 PM

So no LAN play at large LAN parties. Oh well, there goes that fanbase.
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September 14, 2010 2:13:27 PM

darkchazzMW2 on pc is filled with hackers , IW did a shitty job releasing a broken game.Wallhack , aimbot , 10th prestige , no recoil , moded lobbies.



i quit playing mw2 because of the hacks.
one 1 time have i had to deal with a hacker in bfbc2 and the admin kicked/banned him.

spectate mode is a must
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September 14, 2010 2:15:08 PM

ulysses35I confess I play the COD series on a console (yes i know its not graphically as good) and the console version seems harder for hackers to cheat in the games. I cant see a lot of people paying for dedicated servers - this will do nothing but deter PC gamers from buying the game.Agreed with the comments on hackers / cheaters / glitchers though. MW2 Fuel map - the rock that every sad SOB runs to hide under with a sniper rifle... why cant IW patch the game to get rid of this


dude...do you know anything about dedicated servers?
BFBC2 has so many of them that EA isn't running a single one. I don't think we have to worry about the number of servers to play in.
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September 14, 2010 2:16:15 PM

unrealpinkyScrew them. Gameservers are horrible in their support in troubleshooting issues and was glad to get rid of them and moved to a my own dedicated server colocated at a datacenter. This is still a huge "slap-in-the-face" for clans and other PC game enthusiasts that pour their money and time to create and control all aspects of their gaming experience. Another Call of Duty title to skip.



yes, it's total bullshit that they sign an exclusive deal. Battlefield has never done that.
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September 14, 2010 2:18:36 PM

COD:BO! Now featuring features formerly featured!
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September 14, 2010 2:24:33 PM

What's killing me is that they don't give people a lan server option. The days of a good lan party playing the hottest and greatest fps are over because you can't run a lan party game over the net due to bandwidth limitations.
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September 14, 2010 2:26:46 PM

insider3Agreed, I love how they said VAC was going to do a good job at banning hackers. It seems like there's one or two in every game.


VAC on MW2 was the biggest fail of 2009/2010. they should give people partial refunds based on what a total failure it was and fourzerotwo should be ashamed of himself for making claims that they must have known were false.
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September 14, 2010 2:28:54 PM

Even though it's obviously as much as a cash grab as it is an attempt to fix MW2 online issues, it's still an improvement. I won't be leasing a server but I'll try to find some legit ones without players cheating.
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September 14, 2010 2:34:05 PM

Like stated, I guess it's better than nothing.

I still don't understand why people feel a need to cheat at a video game...I really don't see the enjoyment in it. Maybe it makes them feel good to be the "best," even if they didn't do the actual work. Seems so strange to me...
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September 14, 2010 2:40:10 PM

darkchazzMW2 on pc is filled with hackers , IW did a shitty job releasing a broken game.Wallhack , aimbot , 10th prestige , no recoil , moded lobbies.

Not to mention the people who were able to hack on the actual consoles as well.
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September 14, 2010 3:04:12 PM

My CoD-MW clan is looking at this. We are not overly excited about the limitation of the dedicated server, but its better then MW2 which we all basically skipped. We have our own dedicated server for MW (and yes we pay for it, most PC players/clans are happy to pay for a server to run). We run strict rules, stream PBBans and closely monitor the server. We kick, temp ban and perma-ban people as required for cheating or not following server rules. Their is no voting of people on the server. Clan members are all admins. And you know what? We have a large number of non-clan members who are regular players on our server who also donate to our server fund to help pay for the server. Everybody is very happy.

Have to see how it goes with Black Ops.
Man Down Clan
[MD]Wolvan
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September 14, 2010 3:08:14 PM

WolvanMy CoD-MW clan is looking at this. We are not overly excited about the limitation of the dedicated server, but its better then MW2 which we all basically skipped. We have our own dedicated server for MW (and yes we pay for it, most PC players/clans are happy to pay for a server to run). We run strict rules, stream PBBans and closely monitor the server. We kick, temp ban and perma-ban people as required for cheating or not following server rules. Their is no voting of people on the server. Clan members are all admins. And you know what? We have a large number of non-clan members who are regular players on our server who also donate to our server fund to help pay for the server. Everybody is very happy. Have to see how it goes with Black Ops.Man Down Clan [MD]Wolvan


if you play BFBC2 search for F.S.F. and come join my clan's server for some great fun. the vent into flashed on the screen as you play.
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September 14, 2010 3:26:57 PM

mw2 is filled with cheats who cant shoot for nuts
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September 14, 2010 3:34:10 PM

Thus begins the age of the rage kicking admins with no repercussions.
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September 14, 2010 3:40:46 PM

I wonder if I'll be able to get a free copy given that MW2 was a rip-off and I sincerely believe that I'm owed a free game by these bloody thieves. I hope, really do hope, that this game fails beyond belief and that at the end of it all becomes a budget priced game - but I'm sure it won't. People forget too quick and forgive too easily the blunders of the past...
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September 14, 2010 3:42:07 PM

This is a lame move by Treyarch. Yes, it means some there will be some dedicated servers. But this means that the game HAS the ability to do dedicated but they chose to go the greedy route and do exclusivity with gameservers. So, basically this just confirms AGAIN that Activision cares about money and not their customers.

I bought MW2 (heavily on sale) only because my friends did. After 3 weeks we had all quit; the constant hacking is crazy. What really killed it were those dbags running around where if you killed them you got all the way level 70. Way to destroy the leveling system.

That's why BC2 is better. There are a lot of hackers but they get perma banned quickly by punkbuster (which I have always hated until BC2 where it seems to work really well) or by admins. I have only had a few hackers actually ruin my game in BC2 unlike MW2. Sorry, I'll pass on any more COD games.
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September 14, 2010 4:03:44 PM

As stated before.. just another COD version to skip.
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September 14, 2010 4:08:48 PM

Well thank god....I will buy this title, The exclusive deal with GS is not ideal but is a step in the right direction.
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September 14, 2010 4:22:31 PM

BC2 has it's share of Hackers but most of them get perma-banned from either PB or the servers host. MW2 on the other hand is just lame to the point that when it first launched Steam reported around 1.5 million users online on a daily basis.. Last night I checked again and its down to 20,500 users.. As long as we have dedicated servers and admins monitoring the activity we should be fine.

On the other hand what people don't understand is the fact that PB does not kick if the hack is placed outside of the games folder. For instance many hackers now run a hack from USB drives making it impossible for PB to detect the hack. In this case the only way to detect that the user is hacking is by cam-tracking (spectate). Normally they are easy to spot since they bunny hop and get a boatload of headshot's without missing. But hackers are not that stupid either, they can disactivate the hack when they feel they are being watched so this is the reason that we need full control of the servers and an admin monitoring the game at all times.

BC2 took MW's swag away and I doubt they will get it back, unless BO comes out to be this uber game that everyone has been waiting for i really don't see the MW series making a comeback. It's time to let it go and make way for BF3, a real game..

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September 14, 2010 4:23:04 PM

Pass. Ridiculously priced map packs that do nothing but splinter the userbase is what turned me off, although IWnet was on Xbox Live-levels of horrible at times with switching and merging rooms for 5 minutes only to completely kick me out to the main menu before a game is about to start. And the forced wait between games was ridiculously long.
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September 14, 2010 4:47:15 PM

Yeah like this is a big feature. Most FPSes on the PC have Dedicated servers. This is just an execuse for the last overhyped game.
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September 14, 2010 4:49:35 PM

This is certainly a step in the right direction, though the correct step would have been backwards to COD4 where everything was great. I still don't think that I'll buy this simply because it doesn't allow custom maps and mods. I don't even care if I need to buy map packs, its not about the money, I just want my modding community back. The max 18-24 player servers is pretty lame too. If I hear from friends that the game is actually good, I may pick it up on sale.
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September 14, 2010 5:32:15 PM

To bad Antivision, I left that boat 3 games ago...Nice try on the dedicated servers thou.
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September 14, 2010 5:41:52 PM

Oh well.... had hopes for private server support. Being hand-cuffed to pay a monthly fee to play the game with my group, not gonna do it.

I run my own game server in my shop. And it hosts several different games. None of which are open for public play. As for ranked and unranked servers, we could care less about that feature. Our group just likes to get together once or twice a week, on our own private server, and game. So, I suppose our shoot'em up evenings will remain older COD titles.
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September 14, 2010 6:08:24 PM

Too late.
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September 14, 2010 6:43:28 PM

What everyone really cares about is Nazi Zombies...C'mon, be honest.
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September 14, 2010 6:53:33 PM

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I can't tell if this is Better or worse. I'll go with "getting there, but not as good as BF3 will be"


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September 14, 2010 6:54:14 PM

OvrClkrBC2 has it's share of Hackers but most of them get perma-banned from either PB or the servers host. MW2 on the other hand is just lame to the point that when it first launched Steam reported around 1.5 million users online on a daily basis.. Last night I checked again and its down to 20,500 users.. As long as we have dedicated servers and admins monitoring the activity we should be fine.On the other hand what people don't understand is the fact that PB does not kick if the hack is placed outside of the games folder. For instance many hackers now run a hack from USB drives making it impossible for PB to detect the hack. In this case the only way to detect that the user is hacking is by cam-tracking (spectate). Normally they are easy to spot since they bunny hop and get a boatload of headshot's without missing. But hackers are not that stupid either, they can disactivate the hack when they feel they are being watched so this is the reason that we need full control of the servers and an admin monitoring the game at all times.BC2 took MW's swag away and I doubt they will get it back, unless BO comes out to be this uber game that everyone has been waiting for i really don't see the MW series making a comeback. It's time to let it go and make way for BF3, a real game..


i have noticed this on practically every online game now days, and when you report these hackers to a GM you have to instantly recognize what hack it is, and not hang around the hacker and pretend to not spectate and the GM has to show up right then and there to catch them before they can shut off the hack off. that is kind of a satisfing technical kill for me, but i shouldn't have to quit playing my game to solve this. also when somebody sucks, i can't help but want to kick them to bring in somebody better no matter whose side the noob is on. stupidity is paying extra for a server/bandwidth i already have and can do all this on in the same room with me and use to serve for other things when it's not serving COD2:MW. it's also nice to play the hell out of 1 map until we've figured out the game/map/tactics to use on it.
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September 14, 2010 7:00:30 PM

zipzoomflyhighThe problem is people like you kick people who are good, just because you get frustrated and THINK the person is cheating.


Spoken like a true cheater. Not everyone kicks people better than them. So people can tell an obvious cheater from someone getting lucky or someone that is straight up good. There are obvious ways to test if someone is hacking. GG cheater go grief other articles.
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September 14, 2010 7:23:33 PM

Call of Duty as a multiplayer game will be dead to me until all the functionality of THREE YEARS AGO is restored.

This is coming from someone who bought every Call of Duty on launch day except the console titles and Modern Warfare 2.

Now, single player, they've still easily got the best to show. Seeing DC burn was fairly moving.
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September 14, 2010 7:44:34 PM

still fail... so you can have a dedicated server if you are willing to pay extra money for it... i think they missed the point, guess i won't be buying this one either

thats one actual sale lost i'm sure there will be plenty more from my fellow pc gamers. one day activition might piss me off enought to cancel my wow account then they can also wave bye bye to my 15 per month
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September 14, 2010 8:00:27 PM

I still find it funny that MW2 stripped all the great features out of MW1 and WAW (features that made them great and popular) and then how Activision was harping on how we were lucky to have LESS features and now they are slowly reinstating dedicated servers. The funny thing is, every PC gamer already knew that MW2 would have cheater/hacker problems when they announced no dedicated servers. It seems Activision was the only one surprised.

I still find the partial dedicated servers even more insulting that not having them at all. I mean come on, the game now has the ability to have dedicated servers but instead of opening it up, they enter into an exclusive agreement. Way to show how much you don't care about your customers.

I wonder if BO will have eyefinity support. The lack of Eyefinity in MW2 was crazy annoying.
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September 14, 2010 9:24:16 PM

No cheats for PS3 MW2 so I can't complain. Also, I am a REAL gamer who can adjust to FPS on console. But hey this is good news, looks like they learned. But now your gonna have horrid servers cause server providers will stick 20 diff servers on 1 box. Ha, jk...maybe though.
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