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August 10, 2011 12:08:10 AM

I would like to know what to get.
First Question 4gb .vs. 8gb of RAM?
Second Question depends on your anwsers...

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August 10, 2011 12:11:02 AM

8 > 4

That being said, if your really trying to save some cash, you can always double it later.

I have been fine with 4 for playing games, including crysis on vista.

Only time I have not had enough is when I was trying to open a 120,000x60,000 pixel minecraft map...

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August 10, 2011 12:26:55 AM

4gb is sufficient enough for everyday use.
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August 10, 2011 12:30:59 AM

nocturnal7x said:
8 > 4

That being said, if your really trying to save some cash, you can always double it later.

I have been fine with 4 for playing games, including crysis on vista.

Only time I have not had enough is when I was trying to open a 120,000x60,000 pixel minecraft map...


Is there an fps difference between 8gb vs 4gb or RAM? I want the amount thats better for gaming
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August 10, 2011 12:32:30 AM

venjhammet said:
4gb is sufficient enough for everyday use.

Im going to use this pc for mostly gaming and i want the amount that allows me to have more fps in games
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August 10, 2011 1:34:12 AM

You're not likely to get an FPS boost with 8GB over 4 GB, not unless you are running a lot of applications in the background while you are playing a game. The vast majority of games will only use 2GB of RAM maximum. A 64 bit version of the application is required for any program to use more than that. Most developers don't bother with a 64 bit version of the exe, as it is easier to just write a 32 bit exe that is compatible with both the 32 bit and 64 bit operating systems and leave it at that.

If your background applications eat up more than 2 GB and you absolutely must keep them open while playing a game it might be worthwhile going for 8 gigs of RAM, otherwise 4 gigs is fine.

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August 10, 2011 1:44:43 AM

Supernova1138 said:
You're not likely to get an FPS boost with 8GB over 4 GB, not unless you are running a lot of applications in the background while you are playing a game. The vast majority of games will only use 2GB of RAM maximum. A 64 bit version of the application is required for any program to use more than that. Most developers don't bother with a 64 bit version of the exe, as it is easier to just write a 32 bit exe that is compatible with both the 32 bit and 64 bit operating systems and leave it at that.

If your background applications eat up more than 2 GB and you absolutely must keep them open while playing a game it might be worthwhile going for 8 gigs of RAM, otherwise 4 gigs is fine.

Does 4gb of 1600Mhz perform better than 4gb of 1333Mhz by a lot? If so whats the usual fps difference
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August 10, 2011 1:49:39 AM

1600MHz RAM is useful if you intend to overclock your CPU. If you don't intend to overclock your CPU 1600MHz will not offer any real benefit over 1333MHz.
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August 10, 2011 2:00:15 AM

Supernova1138 said:
1600MHz RAM is useful if you intend to overclock your CPU. If you don't intend to overclock your CPU 1600MHz will not offer any real benefit over 1333MHz.

I plan to overclock the phenom ii x4 955 black edition to 3.6Ghz with the cooler master hyper 212 cooler
And overclock the sapphire 6870 form 900/1050 to 975/1150 which will give me about a 4-5 fps boost...lol
Is the Cooler master hyper 212 cooler good for overclocking in your opinion?
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August 10, 2011 9:47:44 PM

the hyper is a little noisy so you may want to get a better fan...

theres little real difference between 1600mhz and 1333.. the real difference comes in the cas latency... 1333 c7 ram is actually more efficient than c9 1600 over all the slower but more efficient ram gives more bandwidth which is what is important...
if you can get 1600 c7 ram then that will give roughly the same performance as 2100mhz ram which costs way more...
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August 10, 2011 11:06:50 PM

HEXiT said:
the hyper is a little noisy so you may want to get a better fan...

theres little real difference between 1600mhz and 1333.. the real difference comes in the cas latency... 1333 c7 ram is actually more efficient than c9 1600 over all the slower but more efficient ram gives more bandwidth which is what is important...
if you can get 1600 c7 ram then that will give roughly the same performance as 2100mhz ram which costs way more...

lol would i need 1600 at the overclock of 3.8. Thats all i wanna know now, can't find any 1333 c7 ram only 1333 c9 but you dont worry about that
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August 10, 2011 11:35:02 PM

not really you just drop the ram multi and it will turn the ram down. lots of manufacturers do ddr3 1333 c7 ram. its not hard to find.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=dd...
a quick google got these for instance...

there are a couple of sweet spots on amd chips. 3.0 and 3.6 will normally allow you to match a ram multi to the ram speed. but that does depend on what multi your cpu is on. im not 100% as its been a while since i had an amd but i think the ram is tied into the ht multi or the nb multi you drop 1 of toughs by .5 or so and the ram speed follows.

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August 11, 2011 1:48:22 AM

HEXiT said:
not really you just drop the ram multi and it will turn the ram down. lots of manufacturers do ddr3 1333 c7 ram. its not hard to find.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=dd...
a quick google got these for instance...

there are a couple of sweet spots on amd chips. 3.0 and 3.6 will normally allow you to match a ram multi to the ram speed. but that does depend on what multi your cpu is on. im not 100% as its been a while since i had an amd but i think the ram is tied into the ht multi or the nb multi you drop 1 of toughs by .5 or so and the ram speed follows.

Oh ok thanks
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