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Bad FPS in nearly all games with decent hardware

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August 21, 2011 7:26:02 PM

I have a pretty decent rig but all of my games seem to be lacking. A game that I got recently that was supposed to run good was the Witcher. Whenever there are multiple people on screen or I'm looking over a large distance my FPS will start dropping noticeably. Even when playing Team Fortress 2 if there are a bunch of people on screen my FPS will start to drop. Something else weird is that WoW seems to run fine, except for big cities but I figured I would get a bad FPS in places like those. Here are my specs.

GPU: ATI HIS 6870 (overclocked)
CPU: AMD Athlon II x3 455 3.3GH/z
RAM: Crucial 4gb 1333 DDR3 (Don't know the exact model)
MB: Biostar A770E3
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit

I don't know what to do. Could it be possible that my GPU isn't in the slot all of the way or something? Also my hard drive was taken from my old HP computer from 2007. Could that be causing the problem? Any help would be great. If you guys need anymore info I will gladly tell you anything.
August 21, 2011 9:11:58 PM

Is it stuttering, or are you sure its just bad frame rates?

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August 21, 2011 10:26:39 PM

I'm sure it's just bad FPS.

Also something I forgot to mention in my first post is that Just Cause 2 seems to run great also. I don't understand how Just Cause 2 can run really good. But then TF2 bogs down with more than 10 people on my screen. I have tried reformatting my HD and that didn't work so yeah.
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August 22, 2011 7:20:31 AM

Power supply make and model? How are you temperatures looking?
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August 22, 2011 12:55:57 PM

hmm could be you GPU not getting sufficient power, That can cause drops in frame rates and cause the screen the "shatter".

Do you happen to know what frames you are actually getting?

Do you play with Vsync enabled?
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August 22, 2011 3:17:32 PM

Well in TF2 with several people on the screen in a large area my FPS drops to about 40-50. In the Witcher runs smooth but only when looking at a wall. If I look into an open area than it drops to 30 and sometimes below.

And no I don't play with v-sync except for on World of Warcraft because for some reason I like it better that way.
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August 22, 2011 9:00:17 PM

40-50 isn't laggy at all... What are you talking about? /:
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August 22, 2011 10:30:10 PM

Well it's supposed to be well above 100 and it's very irritating when I have a computer that's supposed to play that game great and it's only getting there. Also it's not just that game that it's effecting it's almost all of my other games so I would like to play them the way my PC is supposed to.
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August 22, 2011 11:02:25 PM

Herr_Koos said:
Power supply make and model? How are you temperatures looking?


I forgot to answer this.

my PSU is an Zephyr 750 watt.
And my temps all seem normal.

Also the Witcher isn't at 40 - 50 it's like below 30 so yeah I wunna get this problem fixed.
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August 23, 2011 1:30:04 AM

30 isn't bad either
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August 23, 2011 2:22:53 AM

whatsup1396 said:
30 isn't bad either


Ok really... Why would I just sit here and let my computer not run like it's supposed to. I spent the money that I made for a reason and I would like my stuff to work. If you're just gonna post *** like that then just don't post anything at all.
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August 23, 2011 3:37:47 AM

I say it's your CPU holding you back.
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August 23, 2011 4:05:23 AM

Well I do know that my CPU isn't the greatest but my friend has a Athlon CPU that is very similar to mine and he runs the game fine.
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August 23, 2011 7:19:41 AM

skulltac said:
I forgot to answer this.

my PSU is an Zephyr 750 watt.
And my temps all seem normal.



Never heard of them before. Anyone here have experience with the brand?
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August 23, 2011 12:57:59 PM

If you belive that your PC isnt running as it should, have look around at some bench marks for yoru 6870. Sure the PCs used for the testing wont be the same, but it will still give you an indication on how the card is running with other people systems. You may find that it's just how the card performs.
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August 23, 2011 2:33:12 PM

Well people told me that the 6870 should preform flawlessly in the Witcher and TF2. Like Above 60 fps constantly. So I would've thought it was just my card not performing right but people told me otherwise.
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August 23, 2011 2:40:33 PM

Time to dig out the system monitor tools.

CPU-Z
GPU-Z
CPUID HWMonitor

Keep these running in the background while you game. Specifically look for max temperatures, clock speeds, and utilization. Verify that each component ramps up to its rated clock speed and that peak temperatures are under control.
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August 23, 2011 2:48:09 PM

What res and AA are you playing at?

6870 shouldnt have any problems running TF2 and witcher @ 60fps 1920*1080.

Try to keep the AA below 8x as that can bog any system down. Specially systems with 1gb of video ram. As this setting can make your system hit its Vram limit, causing it to choke.
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August 23, 2011 3:05:27 PM

You shouldn't get any 'laggy looks' with 30 FPS, 'laggy looks' only start when the FPS is below 10-15. Try Herr_Koos's tools.
I think the problem might be with compatibility or possibly some problem with the Graphic Card's drivers ( maybe try reinstalling the drivers or try to check if there's any update for them )?
Also, you may want to try to get a better hard disk ( Although that shouldn't matter much, since the HD speeds hasn't changed much over the past decade, unless you take into consideration the new SSD HD's :)  )
As a Last Resort, you can try formatting the computer ( deleting everything & starting fresh ), but only as a Last Resort ( & make sure to have everything backed up, Save Games & stuff, on an External Hard Disk ).
I think that's all my knowledge can come up with ;)  ( until more diagnosis I guess )
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August 23, 2011 6:31:40 PM

skulltac said:
Well people told me that the 6870 should preform flawlessly in the Witcher and TF2. Like Above 60 fps constantly. So I would've thought it was just my card not performing right but people told me otherwise.


I think it might be your HDD or RAM. Is your HDD trashed? Are you running alot of programs in the background while you're playing?
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August 23, 2011 7:27:16 PM

I am barley running anything in the background but I do think it could be my HDD. I've had it for a really long time and I'm sure I could use a new one. Could that be causing my games to go so slowly.
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August 23, 2011 9:47:52 PM

What version of catalyst are you running
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August 23, 2011 11:21:00 PM

11.8 I think. It's the beta/preview version thing.
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August 24, 2011 2:23:40 AM

skulltac said:
11.8 I think. It's the beta/preview version thing.

Could be cause its a beta driver...roll back or, grab the last previous full driver, and give it a go. Let us know what happens.
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August 24, 2011 12:33:41 PM

Yes, I agree. Beta/preview versions are usually unstable & have a lot of bugs. Roll-back or download the latest stable version ( non-beta / non-preview version ). That should fix the problem :) 
( btw, you can roll-back the driver using 'Device Manager' )
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August 24, 2011 6:33:39 PM

Alright I downloaded the latest driver and it still didn't seem to fix it. I'll see if one of my friends has a spare HDD I can test out.
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August 24, 2011 6:37:06 PM

@skulltac

What res and AA are you playing at, please have a look at my post above it explains why high AA can choke your GPU.
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August 24, 2011 7:45:35 PM

Well I usually play with AA either turned off or set to 2x. I know that it effects performance so I tend to keep it low/off. As for my resolution I usually play on 1440 x 900.

Also another game that seems to run fine is Just Cause 2 and that game is way more demanding than TF2.
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September 19, 2011 10:12:58 PM

skulltac said:
I have a pretty decent rig but all of my games seem to be lacking. A game that I got recently that was supposed to run good was the Witcher. Whenever there are multiple people on screen or I'm looking over a large distance my FPS will start dropping noticeably. Even when playing Team Fortress 2 if there are a bunch of people on screen my FPS will start to drop. Something else weird is that WoW seems to run fine, except for big cities but I figured I would get a bad FPS in places like those. Here are my specs.

GPU: ATI HIS 6870 (overclocked)
CPU: AMD Athlon II x3 455 3.3GH/z
RAM: Crucial 4gb 1333 DDR3 (Don't know the exact model)
MB: Biostar A770E3
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit

I don't know what to do. Could it be possible that my GPU isn't in the slot all of the way or something? Also my hard drive was taken from my old HP computer from 2007. Could that be causing the problem? Any help would be great. If you guys need anymore info I will gladly tell you anything.



I have a pretty hefty rig

5870 overclocked to 950mhz
phenom x2 4.0ghz 2.6ghz northbridge water cooled
16gigs ram 1600mhz

I get 35 fps. I overclocked my processor to 4.2 and got no fps advantage, overclocked the l3 cache controlled by the northbridge 10 fps jump in the town in the swamp. so before it was 25fps.

you need to get a better processor to unleash one of these units, but the claim that the fps should be 60fps in the witcher at 1080p... no way! maybe at 720p.

my friend has a

core i7 2600
with a nvidia 570 superclocked he only gets 35fps
he got 60fps only when he got his second 570 superclocked in the system and even then it hovers around 55fps with everything maxed(no ubersampling) at 1080p

if you want to unleash this graphics card 6870 you need to get your processor to atleast 4.0ghz and 2.8-2.9ghz northbridge. burn your x3 to discover how to overclock the phenom 2. then get yourself a 1100t they are manufactured using a low-k method. this means it can be overclocked better.

overclock your x3's northbridge to it's maximum setting get that l3 cache to atleast 2.8ghz before going on to the cpu frequency. then you'll notice some serious fps gains in older games but not that much on the witcher 2.

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September 19, 2011 10:35:56 PM

skulltac said:
Ok really... Why would I just sit here and let my computer not run like it's supposed to. I spent the money that I made for a reason and I would like my stuff to work. If you're just gonna post *** like that then just don't post anything at all.

what settings are you at wile playing the witcher 2? I ask because if you are trying to go full setting 30FPS is about as good as it gets there. SO could you give us a few examples of games that your conserned about then what FPS your getting and finaly at what settings your playing them at. Again 30 FPS for the witcher if fine unless your turning settings way down. Also keep in mind that from a FPS standpoint playing games online is not the best benchmark as having more people on screen and such can affect performance and have nothing to do with your computer setup or hardware. :) 

For example I play The Witcher 2 at full settings at 1080p and get about 40FPS with a 6950 overclocked real high and a 4.0ghz Phenom 2 X4. So at those settings I would guess a 6870 would be below 30 so with you turning some settings down 30 FPS is about right it is a very resource hungry game.
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September 20, 2011 7:26:19 AM

Backing up what CBurke says - I have a similar rig to his and I pull in even less fps on high settings on witcher 2. It's a really high-demand game. The fact that you get that framerate from a 6870 is pretty darn good.
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September 27, 2011 2:00:26 AM

I was talking about the witcher 1 not witcher 2
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September 27, 2011 2:01:51 AM

Also I've come to the conclusion that my CPU just sucks. After overclocking it recently I was able to get TF2 to run at 60 frames so yay. I'm just gonna but a new CPU. Probably and Phenom 6 core.
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September 27, 2011 2:39:01 AM

Honestly, the older processor is more than likely bottlenecking the gpu. Overclock ftw!
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