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I'm Sorry I guess i'm kind of complicated...

I want to know how I can diguse and mask certain files
i don't want other people to see... Even the best computer experts...

Cheers
R.

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Getting into the virus/worm business?

The only way to really hide it would basically make those files useless unless you're making a virus..

You can just encrypt a folder and put your files in there.

Damn, there's a really good app out there that does a great job encrypting files on the fly, but it's totally slipped my mind. Anyone know? It makes a virtual disk on the drive that is encrypted.

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how do i encrypt a folder?


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PGP is a freeware app that will encrypt files for you. There are all manner of encryp apps out there for you to use.
Another possibility for real data hiding is to use steganography - hiding data within data with little or no effect on the host data.
You can hide a spreadsheet in an image file and the image quality would hardly be effected. You can layer on encryption so that the hidden data is encrypted as well as hidden so even if it is detected it can't be extracted or decyphered.

There are a number of tools that can do this just google stego to find them.

Thanks palmerg, pretty sure that's the one I was thinking of.

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NP - We have Phil Zimmerman to thank for that app - he went through all kinds of hell with the likes of NSA and other gov agencies to allow exporting of the associated crypto algorithms included in PGP.
Great Program. Some of it is commercialized but there is a freeware ver out there. Maybe at sourceforge, I forgot.... getting senile.

Well, way to tell the guy how to start making a virus.  

I had a kid try doing this when I was in college.. he tried making a virus, encrypting it, and hiding it on the PCs.
Antivirus won't pick it up because it's not a big virus, but it's enough to cause problems on a network. With a little work he could make it replicate out to any PC he's been on, or has an admin password to.  

In XP, right click on the Folder, Properties, lower right hand corner, Advanced. You'll see a checkbox for encryption. Open that, fill out the info and you'll be good to go.

There is a lot more to virus creation than hiding a file in another or knowing how to use encryption.(Sorry didn't see the smiley face until I started writing)
I use stego for protecting personal information on my laptop so that if it is stolen (which could happen) teh crook won't have a leg up in the ID thrft realm.

I've seen people write batch files to delete folders, etc, on the network or on the pc. Toss out an Icon on the desktop.. Microsoft Word, change the icon, but make it a batch file.. not really a virus, but it'll cause some problems. It's stupid things like that can give headaches.

I agree that a little info in the wrong hands (or mind) can be a dangerous thing. I just prefer to share info. I know I should be more cautious, but..

Windows XP <b><font color=red>Pro</b></font color=red> can encrypt files and folders. Right-click the file or folder you want to encrypt and Properties. Click on <b>Advanced</b> button, and check on <b>'Encrypt contents to secure data'</b>. It encrypts and decrypts files on-the-fly, so you wouldn't notice the difference.

OK, I know this is not a full "encryption" or even a full proof way to hide something from someone who's really good.
But, if you just rename your file as .VOB the system will view it as such, right???
So, if someone double clicked it, it would try to open it as such,, prolly unsuccessfully.
Just a thought. Very simple and uncomplicated. Yes, I know it's far from hacker proof, so don't go into attack mode guys.
BTW,, when talking "even the best computer experts", if there's a way to hide it there's a way to unhide it. Unless you go so far as to destroy it completely.
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That would work.. but it would render the file useless.. he'd have to change the file name each time he wanted to open or access it.. the encryption probably is the best bet as he'd just have to enter a password to get into the folder.

I know,, like I said, "just a thought". And yes, you'd deffinately have to rename it every time you wanted to see it. Not the most functional of ideas, but would work in a pinch. :smile:


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Renaming the file as you suggest will render it useless in most cases. As you mention it won't fool good forensic examiners. They use tools that don't rely on the file type. They open the file in a hex editer and look for the file signiture (header adn trailer). Ie. all Jpeg files start with hex FFD8 and end with hex FFD9.

that was exaclty my intention. Your average Joe would just see it as a corrupt/useless file. Rename it back and view it as always. (I did say this was a very simple and not very haker-proof solution :wink: )

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Yep, I said you mentioned all that.