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More info?)
It depends where you read but there are so many different opinions about
this out there. One I read (forgot where now) said set min/max the same so
the system doesn't have to keep resizing it.
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Peter.
Toronto, Canada.
Windows XP Home SP2.
P4 Dual HT @ 3.0ghz, 160gb HD, 1.0gb DDR.
"David Candy" <david@mvps.org> wrote in message
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I set mine to 1 gig. In 9x setting it to the free disk space was setting it
to the max (windows knew). Maybe the same thing applies
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"Peter" <noSpam@dotnet> wrote in message
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> David, the system wouldn't let me leave a blank for maximum - here is a
> pic
> of the applet
>
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> Peter.
> Toronto, Canada.
> Windows XP Home SP2.
> P4 Dual HT @ 3.0ghz, 160gb HD, 1.0gb DDR.
> "Peter" <noSpam@dotnet> wrote in message
> news:%23nuq9rksEHA.636@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> My settings were at around 1533mb for a 1.0gb DDR (around the 1.5 mark)
>> so
>> you say set a minimum but no maximum? I'm off to defrag as we speak.
>>
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>> Peter.
>> Toronto, Canada.
>> Windows XP Home SP2.
>> P4 Dual HT @ 3.0ghz, 160gb HD, 1.0gb DDR.
>> "David Candy" <david@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:%23w3sCQjsEHA.2800@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> I don't believe that system managed is the best choice due to
>> fragmentation
>> isssues. A good sized minimun and no max is the best but you have to
>> defrag
>> before setting the minimum (else the fragmentation issue isn't
>> addressed).
>>
>> Fragmentation isn't that big an issue in itself but as it's the swap file
>> the memory used by windows to manage the swap must stay in memory and
>> each
>> fragment requires extra memory so windows can find it. That means less
>> memory for your programs which will force more paging.
>>
>> Likewise each Fat32 disk takes up enourmous amounts (20 meg for a 40 gig
>> disk) of non pagable memory while an NTFS disk uses 200K of memory,
>> 1/100th
>> as much.
>>
>> I don't like air conditioners. I choose where I live in Winter and was
>> just
>> to taken with all that sunshine flooding in. I leave the window open
>> 24/7/365. I sleep on top of the bed and only wear a T-shirt all year
>> round
>> (with a light jacket if I go out at night in winter) It wasn't till after
>> I
>> paid the deposit that the thought occured to me that good in winter means
>> bad in summer. 5 years ago we had a storm (which is why a minor hail
>> storm
>> is now big news) with baseball sized hail. I was trapped outside as I had
>> just left the supermarket - I was 20 metres away from it - and it
>> started.
>> I
>> was pressed up against a wall, with every car alarm going beserk, being
>> hit
>> from the ribcage down, the ice was shattering and sending ice shards
>> flying
>> so I had my hands over my eyes protecting them. And it took an hour or so
>> before I would trust that it had stopped to go the rest of the way home.
>> It
>> took many years before Australia could make enough roof tiles to repair
>> the
>> damage. My window was open about an inch at home (I lived on the ground
>> floor then so I closed my window if I wasn't home) and the ice had
>> shattered
>> and come in and my bed was covered with about 6 inches (150mm) of ice.
>> The
>> bed was very cold.
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>> "Peter" <noSpam@dotnet> wrote in message
>> news:OVqrC%23isEHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>> David, Firstly (re: Pagefile) is "System Managed" Ok for settings?
>>> Secondly, get yourself an air conditioner. If I recall last summer in
>>> OZ
>>> was extremely hot.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peter.
>>> Toronto, Canada.
>>> Windows XP Home SP2.
>>> P4 Dual HT @ 3.0ghz, 160gb HD, 1.0gb DDR.
>>> "David Candy" <david@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:OijBmyisEHA.2548@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>> I'm in Sydney and it's been 37/38° (100°F) already, can you believe
>>> that.
>>> I've only seen snow once in my life. It's cool now but inside is still
>>> hot.
>>> I sat in the rain last night at 3am to cool down.
>>>
>>> Sydney: Dry, mostly sunny. 23 (73.4°F) is
>>> the
>>> max today thankfully.
>>>
>>> Conversion is from the updated calculator from
>>>
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/outreach/dnloads/downloads.mspx
>>>
>>> While we don''t get snow (except this year it did snow, a couple of
>>> flakes,
>>> in sydney near the mountains) we do get hail
>>>
http://www.smh.com.au/ftimages/2004/09/06/1094322704029.html
>>>
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>>> "Sheila" <Sheila@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:34D04A0C-0179-4A04-9929-F8740A5F2A4A@microsoft.com...
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you so much for your suggestions, I will give it a try and let
>>>> you
>>>> know how it goes...that's if we don't get snow bound tonight..it is
>>>> North
>>>> Dakota and they are forcasting snow already...can you believe that?
>>>>
>>>> Sheila
>>>>
>>>> "David Candy" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The important thing is to set a large minimun (100MB sounds fine but
>>>>> tailor it to yourself).
>>>>>
>>>>> With no swap file and same memory as you I can open around 34
>>>>> programs.
>>>>> But if you use large data sets (like video editing) 1 Gig may be too
>>>>> small.
>>>>>
>>>>> The critical thing is to set the minimun to the maximun that you,
>>>>> personally, actually use. You don't want the swap file fragmented
>>>>> (each
>>>>> fragment chews up real memory so 2 fragments is unimportant but 1000
>>>>> is
>>>>> really bad).
>>>>>
>>>>> But you must make this minimum unfragmented. Set swap to nothing,
>>>>> defrag
>>>>> (you should have enough real memory to do this, if not set a small
>>>>> swap),
>>>>> then set the minimun size to what you observe the largest size it
>>>>> grows
>>>>> to in normal use (hidden file called c:\pagefile.sys).
>>>>>
>>>>> I use a 768MB minimun so it never needs to grow at all. I never use
>>>>> anywhere near that. If I was you I'd set a 1 gb minimum (you seem to
>>>>> be
>>>>> able to afford it - might as well give it to the swap than having it
>>>>> do
>>>>> nothing) and no maximun for that day you need to open a large file or
>>>>> 300
>>>>> programs at once. I personally do set a 1 gb max but that is from
>>>>> habit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Setting max to 0 is a bad idea and will slow down the computer. It
>>>>> will
>>>>> force windows to page out code it's using and keep data that is not
>>>>> being
>>>>> used - the opposite of what you want.
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>>>>> "Sheila" <Sheila@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:763487BB-13C0-42A5-A626-26D56DB6AAC9@microsoft.com...
>>>>> > Thanks everyone for your help..
>>>>> > considering that I have 512MB ram and 75GB HD would this setting
>>>>> > work
>>>>> > out ok?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > minimum 100MB
>>>>> > Maximum 1GB? does the maximum matter?
>>>>> > I read that article that will suggested and from what I understood,
>>>>> > those
>>>>> > settings would be ok..any suggestions?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > thanks again...very much..
>>>>> > Sheila
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "David Candy" wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> The formula is 1.5 times physical RAM. But it's just something
>>>>> >> picked
>>>>> >> out of a hat, nothing magical about it. If it's too small you won't
>>>>> >> be
>>>>> >> able to open anymore programs (without closing some) when it's
>>>>> >> filled
>>>>> >> up. Windows requires 1 and a bit times RAM for full functionality
>>>>> >> (but
>>>>> >> the function that needs this is turned off by default).
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Don't ever get trapped by people saying disable VM - you can't to
>>>>> >> begin with and disabling the page file (which does NOT disable VM)
>>>>> >> will make windows go beserk trying to page. It can only page into
>>>>> >> font
>>>>> >> files and exe files. So it will dump your program code from memory.
>>>>> >>
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>>>>> >> "Sheila" <Sheila@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> >> news:0B90528F-9322-4DD0-B7BB-0E9F128EE359@microsoft.com...
>>>>> >> >I have heard that there is a formula for setting a pagefile, does
>>>>> >> >anyone know
>>>>> >> > if that is true? I have a XP macine with 512MB ram 75gb HD and
>>>>> >> > it
>>>>> >> > seems to
>>>>> >> > be running far too slow. Can some suggest a setting that I could
>>>>> >> > use to
>>>>> >> > maybe improve performance?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > thanks,
>>>>> >> > Sheila
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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