ATI Linux Drivers

ATI's Linux drivers already fall far behind those of nVidia.
I am curious, with their announcing a long-term partnership with Microsoft, if their Linux support will suffer even more.
What do you think is the likely future of Linux drivers from ATI?
Do you think they will ever develop drivers that are installable with apt-get or other auto-updater software like SuSE Linux's YaST?
Since ATI's website isn't helpful for asking tough questions like this unless you are a "media professional" or have a direct business relationship with them, is it possible that someone reading this post might have the credentials and interest to find ATI's answers to these questions?

I have an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro video card in one of my machines, and I've been sorely disappointed by their Linux drivers. I also have a machine that uses a nVidia GeForce FX 5600 card running Linux. The nVidia card is the hands-down winner when comparing the 3D quality, overall video quality, or ease of driver installation between the two. Under Windows XP, I felt the ATI had the upper hand.
As more people try Linux, more people give up their ATI cards. It's sad, but true.
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  1. New driver is much improved; if you haven't tried it yet, I highly suggest you do. It installed painlessly on my Fedora install.

    <font color=red> If you design software that is fool-proof, only a fool will want to use it. </font color=red>
  2. I've just getten my radeon 9800 to work with Suse 9.3. I would like to say it was very hard, and that I'm a linux guru, but it wasn't and I'm not. It was just downloading the binary from SuSE, installing it with YaST and running sax from the command line.

    It's hard to tell about driver quality, I only really use one PC, so I only use one AGP card at a time. It's hard to compare what you're seeing with what you remember.

    Kill the free variable! Death to X5! There is only the trivial solution. We will be independent!
  3. It's a piece of cake with gentoo

    emerge ati-drivers
    fglrxconfig
    opengl-update ati
    <ctrl><alt><bksp>

    I think that's about it.

    s signature has been formatted to fit your scr
  4. I have had a ATI driver issues on the X800 on the RH Enterprise 4, but did not have the problem on Suse Ent 9. I will look through RH for the latest drivers.

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  5. Joe_tlj wrote:
    Quote:
    Kill the free variable! Death to X5! There is only the trivial solution. We will be independent!


    Haha, you have gotta love the linear algebra yes?

    I am currently runnin Fedora Core 4 and I am having some difficulty installing the ATI driver and getting direct rendering to work. I am hoping that one or more of you could help me? The thread I started here to solve this problem is entitled "Help getting ATI card to work on Fedora Core 4 Linux". Any help is appreciated.

    -Zorak
  6. Quote:
    Joe_tlj wrote: Kill the free variable! Death to X5! There is only the trivial solution. We will be independent!


    Haha, you have gotta love the linear algebra yes?

    I am currently runnin Fedora Core 4 and I am having some difficulty installing the ATI driver and getting direct rendering to work. I am hoping that one or more of you could help me? The thread I started here to solve this problem is entitled "Help getting ATI card to work on Fedora Core 4 Linux". Any help is appreciated.

    -Zorak


    ATI has made a deal with M$ I don't know if they are going to provide drivers any more.
  7. "It was just downloading the binary from SuSE, installing it with YaST and running sax from the command line."

    Is the procedure the same for Suse 10.0, do you know, and if so, could you write me a more "noob oriented" checklist for 9700Pro driver install/config?

    tiA!

    (My rig says R300 is detected, but when opening a game, it says 3d not supported, etc...)
  8. You need to install the proprietary driver from ATI.

    https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.23.7-i386.run

    To install the .run file:



    su -
    chmod a+rx ati-driver-installer-8.23.7-i386.run
    ./ati-driver-installer-8.23.7-i386.run

    [/code:1:74a0759c13]

    I got the link from here:

    https://support.ati.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=1176
  9. I think I got it to run using the ATI installer, however, how do I in fact confirm which driver installed?

    (ANd how do I enable 3d open gl?)

    TIA
  10. Quote:
    I think I got it to run using the ATI installer, however, how do I in fact confirm which driver installed?

    (ANd how do I enable 3d open gl?)

    TIA


    It's automatic, you "shouldn't" have to enable it



    glxinfo -l -v | more

    glxgears -v -info

    [/code:1:eb2b79d29e]
  11. Can't get mine to work... of course, I did do a kernel update. I really haven't gotten the hang of rebuilding the driver myself, so I guess I'm stuck wating until a newer version is released.

    Either that, or I'll see if I can get it working under the older kernel.
  12. Quote:
    Can't get mine to work... of course, I did do a kernel update. I really haven't gotten the hang of rebuilding the driver myself, so I guess I'm stuck wating until a newer version is released.

    Either that, or I'll see if I can get it working under the older kernel.



    This might help, it is complicated tho...

    http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html
  13. after doing it (i think!), I get the following:

    -----
    name of display: :0.0
    display: :0 screen: 0
    direct rendering: No
    server glx vendor string: SGI
    server glx version string: 1.2
    server glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
    GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig
    client glx vendor string: ATI
    client glx version string: 1.3
    client glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float,
    GLX_ATI_render_texture
    GLX extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_ARB_multisample
    OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
    OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
    OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
    OpenGL extensions:
    GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
    GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add,
    GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
    GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color,
    GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_texture_env_add,
    GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3,
    GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
    glu version: 1.3
    glu extensions:
    GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

    visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav
    id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    0x23 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 None
    0x24 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 1 0 None
    0x25 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None
    0x26 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None
    0x27 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 None
    0x28 24 dc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 1 0 None
    0x29 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None
    0x2a 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 16 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None
    linux:/home/mdd1963 # glxgears
    1230 frames in 5.0 seconds = 246.000 FPS
    1320 frames in 5.0 seconds = 264.000 FPS
    1200 frames in 5.0 seconds = 240.000 FPS
    X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
    linux:/home/mdd1963 # glxinfo -1 -v more
    Unknown option `-1'
    Usage: glxinfo [-v] [-t] [-h] [-i] [-b] [-display <dname>]
    -v: Print visuals info in verbose form.
    -t: Print verbose table.
    -display <dname>: Print GLX visuals on specified server.
    -h: This information.
    -i: Force an indirect rendering context.
    -b: Find the 'best' visual and print it's number.
    -l: Print interesting OpenGL limits.
    linux:/home/mdd1963 # glxinfo -v
    name of display: :0.0
    display: :0 screen: 0
    direct rendering: No
    server glx vendor string: SGI
    server glx version string: 1.2
    server glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
    GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig
    client glx vendor string: ATI
    client glx version string: 1.3
    client glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float,
    GLX_ATI_render_texture
    GLX extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_ARB_multisample
    OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
    OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
    OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
    OpenGL extensions:
    GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
    GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add,
    GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
    GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color,
    GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_texture_env_add,
    GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3,
    GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
    glu version: 1.3
    glu extensions:
    GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

    Visual ID: 23 depth=24 class=TrueColor
    bufferSize=24 level=0 renderType=rgba doubleBuffer=1 stereo=0
    rgba: redSize=8 greenSize=8 blueSize=8 alphaSize=0
    auxBuffers=0 depthSize=16 stencilSize=0
    accum: redSize=0 greenSize=0 blueSize=0 alphaSize=0
    multiSample=1 multiSampleBuffers=0
    visualCaveat=None
    Opaque.
    Visual ID: 24 depth=24 class=TrueColor
    bufferSize=24 level=0 renderType=rgba doubleBuffer=1 stereo=0
    rgba: redSize=8 greenSize=8 blueSize=8 alphaSize=0
    auxBuffers=0 depthSize=16 stencilSize=8
    accum: redSize=16 greenSize=16 blueSize=16 alphaSize=0
    multiSample=1 multiSampleBuffers=0
    visualCaveat=None
    Opaque.
    Visual ID: 25 depth=24 class=TrueColor
    bufferSize=32 level=0 renderType=rgba doubleBuffer=1 stereo=0
    rgba: redSize=8 greenSize=8 blueSize=8 alphaSize=8
    auxBuffers=0 depthSize=16 stencilSize=8
    accum: redSize=16 greenSize=16 blueSize=16 alphaSize=16
    multiSample=1 multiSampleBuffers=0
    visualCaveat=None
    Opaque.
    Visual ID: 26 depth=24 class=TrueColor
    bufferSize=32 level=0 renderType=rgba doubleBuffer=0 stereo=0
    rgba: redSize=8 greenSize=8 blueSize=8 alphaSize=8
    auxBuffers=0 depthSize=16 stencilSize=8
    accum: redSize=16 greenSize=16 blueSize=16 alphaSize=16
    multiSample=1 multiSampleBuffers=0
    visualCaveat=None
    Opaque.
    Visual ID: 27 depth=24 class=DirectColor
    bufferSize=24 level=0 renderType=rgba doubleBuffer=1 stereo=0
    rgba: redSize=8 greenSize=8 blueSize=8 alphaSize=0
    auxBuffers=0 depthSize=16 stencilSize=0
    accum: redSize=0 greenSize=0 blueSize=0 alphaSize=0
    multiSample=1 multiSampleBuffers=0
    visualCaveat=None
    Opaque.
    Visual ID: 28 depth=24 class=DirectColor
    bufferSize=24 level=0 renderType=rgba doubleBuffer=1 stereo=0
    rgba: redSize=8 greenSize=8 blueSize=8 alphaSize=0
    auxBuffers=0 depthSize=16 stencilSize=8
    accum: redSize=16 greenSize=16 blueSize=16 alphaSize=0
    multiSample=1 multiSampleBuffers=0
    visualCaveat=None
    Opaque.
    Visual ID: 29 depth=24 class=DirectColor
    bufferSize=32 level=0 renderType=rgba doubleBuffer=1 stereo=0
    rgba: redSize=8 greenSize=8 blueSize=8 alphaSize=8
    auxBuffers=0 depthSize=16 stencilSize=8
    accum: redSize=16 greenSize=16 blueSize=16 alphaSize=16
    multiSample=1 multiSampleBuffers=0
    visualCaveat=None
    Opaque.
    Visual ID: 2a depth=24 class=DirectColor
    bufferSize=32 level=0 renderType=rgba doubleBuffer=0 stereo=0
    rgba: redSize=8 greenSize=8 blueSize=8 alphaSize=8
    auxBuffers=0 depthSize=16 stencilSize=8
    accum: redSize=16 greenSize=16 blueSize=16 alphaSize=16
    multiSample=1 multiSampleBuffers=0
    visualCaveat=None
    Opaque.
  14. I'm not sure if I followed your instruction exactly, as the whole "cmd line" experience is rather new, so I would need exact examples of whatt to type....

    is 250 fps for glxgears a little low?

    (The f117 sim still says no Opengl features...)

    Again,, thanks for your assistance!

    Update!!!!

    Uh oh....! Now within yast/hardware, when I click on "graphics card and monitor", i do not get a response.....(A quick blue progress bar where it is gathering info, but...no answer!)

    ooopS!
  15. It half - worked.

    Doh!

    I'll give you some stuff to try, let me go research it first.
  16. Well, as I had both an FGLRX (showed locked/protected, not recommended to remove?)and and an ATI installer routine done, and since my YAST/hardware/graphics card and monitor was now not giving a response at all....

    I reformatted, reinstalled, allowed the lengthy online updating this morning while at the gym, so it is now a fresh install, with no ATI driver updates attempted yet...(On the positive side, I'm getting a lot of experience at installing!) :-)

    (ATI claims on their website that the automated driver installer works for both Redhat and Suse, but they then also list 3 or 4 different X11/XOrg packages....; do you recommend one of those isntalled manually, or letting ati auto installer generating a package specifically for Suse/Yast?)

    thanks again (no hurry on this at all, as I am doing all of this jsut for the fun/experience of it, the other rig with 7800GT is good to go it seems!)
  17. Quote:
    Well, as I had both an FGLRX (showed locked/protected, not recommended to remove?)and and an ATI installer routine done, and since my YAST/hardware/graphics card and monitor was now not giving a response at all....

    I reformatted, reinstalled, allowed the lengthy online updating this morning while at the gym, so it is now a fresh install, with no ATI driver updates attempted yet...(On the positive side, I'm getting a lot of experience at installing!) :-)

    (ATI claims on their website that the automated driver installer works for both Redhat and Suse, but they then also list 3 or 4 different X11/XOrg packages....; do you recommend one of those isntalled manually, or letting ati auto installer generating a package specifically for Suse/Yast?)

    thanks again (no hurry on this at all, as I am doing all of this jsut for the fun/experience of it, the other rig with 7800GT is good to go it seems!)



    On Linux you almost never have to reinstall :-D

    If X breaks all you have to do is revert back to the original xorg.conf file :-D

    I always recommend doing this:


    cp -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.dist
    [/code:1:f904710be6]

    If something breaks just:

  18. Well, if ATI kills support for their wares in Linux, woe be the person that buys a motherboard with an ATI chipset. There's nothing that will work worth a darn for at least a few months (until drivers get made by the F/OSS community) on that sucker if that happened.

    Thank goodness that there are three or more major chipset and GPU providers- if only NVIDIA made Linux chipset and GPU drivers, I bet the situation would not be as nice as it is today, as in we'd likely have to pay for the privilege or put up with a semi- or non-functioning board from other vendors. But we also have VIA and Intel for chipsets and Intel and Matrox for GPUs, although they are not that great for gaming, especially Intel's IGP.

    Competition == we win && monopoly == we lose. Simple as that, but few seem to see that.
  19. I saw in the Xorg.conf file a string that said:

    Renderer: Mesa 3D Indirect

    This means that the driver did NOT install and you are using software rendering. That is what happened when I tried to use the fglrx drivers on my old notebook's Radeon 9000. I stuck with the default "rv250lf dri" driver and it works pretty well.

    If the install goes right, entering

    glxinfo | grep render

    should yield:

    Renderer: ATI Techonologies Incorporated

    instead of the Mesa Indirect.
  20. "On Linux you almost never have to reinstall
    If X breaks all you have to do is revert back to the original xorg.conf file Very Happy
    I always recommend doing this:

    Code:

    cp -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.dist

    If something breaks just:
    Code:

    cp -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf.dist /etc/X11/xorg.conf
    "

    I sort of knew there was bound to be an easy way out of my dilema, but, being a Win95/98 former user....

    Format C!!!!!!!! :-)

    (Are there any scripts of useful/ common cmd line tasks that could be cut/pasted into teh cmd line? Or better yet, completely automated ones like I use with ProComm for raid controller config, configuration of NVRAM boot scripts on Yukons, etcc.?)
  21. Quote:
    I saw in the Xorg.conf file a string that said:

    Renderer: Mesa 3D Indirect

    If the install goes right, entering
    glxinfo | grep render
    should yield:

    Renderer: ATI Techonologies Incorporated

    instead of the Mesa Indirect.


    Thanks for the tip, I'll look after my next attempt!
  22. Quote:
    "On Linux you almost never have to reinstall
    If X breaks all you have to do is revert back to the original xorg.conf file Very Happy
    I always recommend doing this:

    Code:

    cp -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.dist

    If something breaks just:
    Code:

    cp -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf.dist /etc/X11/xorg.conf
    "

    I sort of knew there was bound to be an easy way out of my dilema, but, being a Win95/98 former user....

    Format C!!!!!!!! :-)

    (Are there any scripts of useful/ common cmd line tasks that could be cut/pasted into teh cmd line? Or better yet, completely automated ones like I use with ProComm for raid controller config, configuration of NVRAM boot scripts on Yukons, etcc.?)



    There are thousands :-D

    Check out:

    http://tldp.org/

    http://freshmeat.net/

    http://sf.net/
  23. ATi just released a new driver today... so I tried it out. It installed without a hitch, however, I get this when I try to run aticonfig --initial as per the instructions:

    aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory[/code:1:da8e828cfa]

    I'm sure it's something really simple for you... but it's Greek to me... lol.
  24. Did you use the installer, the RPM or a repo package?
  25. I used the ATi installer...
  26. Quote:
    ATi just released a new driver today... so I tried it out. It installed without a hitch, however, I get this when I try to run aticonfig --initial as per the instructions:

    aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory[/code:1:b1a289c8b7]

    I'm sure it's something really simple for you... but it's Greek to me... lol.



    Please try this:


    ldconfig -v
    [/code:1:b1a289c8b7]

    Please do NOT post the results.

  27. I get "Command not found" for ldconfig.

    And here's what I get after doing that search:

    /usr/X11R6/lib64/libfglrx_pp.so.1.0
    find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /selinux: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver. Automatically turning on find' s -noleaf option. Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.[/code:1:d7bf33c7c0]
  28. Quote:
    I get "Command not found" for ldconfig.

    And here's what I get after doing that search:

    /usr/X11R6/lib64/libfglrx_pp.so.1.0
    find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /selinux: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver. Automatically turning on find' s -noleaf option. Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.[/code:1:65391b3bdd]



    Run ldconfig as root


    /sbin/ldconfig
    [/code:1:65391b3bdd]

    Run the find also as root

  29. Ok... logged in as root, ldconfig ran like it was supposed to... I think.

    Did the first search again, this time got only this:

    /usr/X11R6/lib64/libfglrx_pp.so.1.0[/code:1:c62fe87608]

    (No errors this time).

    I'm not sure where the installer files went... I just saved the .run package to my desktop and ran it from a terminal window.
  30. Quote:
    Ok... logged in as root, ldconfig ran like it was supposed to... I think.

    Did the first search again, this time got only this:

    /usr/X11R6/lib64/libfglrx_pp.so.1.0[/code:1:195a28d619]

    (No errors this time).

    I'm not sure where the installer files went... I just saved the .run package to my desktop and ran it from a terminal window.



    Try aticonfig --initial now

    The lib is where it's supposed to be.
  31. That's what I thought... but I still get the same error. :(
  32. copy the file to /usr/lib rerun /sbin/ldconfig -v and try again
  33. I thank you for your time and patience... I really appreciate it. :)

    We're one step closer, but I got this on rebooting after running aticonfig:

    (II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
    (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fglrx
    (II) UnloadModule: "fglrx"
    (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)[/code:1:ef8e648581]

    I pasted that from my log file. I know something isn't quite right, but I'm lost as to exactly how to fix it.

    Thanks again, dude... with your help, I could really learn to enjoy Linux.
  34. Quote:
    ATI's Linux drivers already fall far behind those of nVidia.
    I am curious, with their announcing a long-term partnership with Microsoft, if their Linux support will suffer even more.
    What do you think is the likely future of Linux drivers from ATI?
    Do you think they will ever develop drivers that are installable with apt-get or other auto-updater software like SuSE Linux's YaST?
    Since ATI's website isn't helpful for asking tough questions like this unless you are a "media professional" or have a direct business relationship with them, is it possible that someone reading this post might have the credentials and interest to find ATI's answers to these questions?

    I have an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro video card in one of my machines, and I've been sorely disappointed by their Linux drivers. I also have a machine that uses a nVidia GeForce FX 5600 card running Linux. The nVidia card is the hands-down winner when comparing the 3D quality, overall video quality, or ease of driver installation between the two. Under Windows XP, I felt the ATI had the upper hand.
    As more people try Linux, more people give up their ATI cards. It's sad, but true.
    ------------------------------------

    If ignorance is bliss, education will blow your mind.



    nVidia has had the upper hand in OpenGL for some time and have had very good drivers for Linux and windoze.

    Until recent years ATI windoze drivers were lacking as well.

    ATI usually does better in D3D performance.

    nVidia is the natural choice for non-windows OSes as well as OpenGL games and applications.
  35. Quote:
    I thank you for your time and patience... I really appreciate it. :)

    We're one step closer, but I got this on rebooting after running aticonfig:

    (II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
    (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fglrx
    (II) UnloadModule: "fglrx"
    (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)[/code:1:cd797dcd10]

    I pasted that from my log file. I know something isn't quite right, but I'm lost as to exactly how to fix it.

    Thanks again, dude... with your help, I could really learn to enjoy Linux.



    Looks like the ATI kernel module ( fglrx ) is either missing or broken.

    Try this:


    find /lib/modules/ -iname "*fglrx*"
    [/code:1:cd797dcd10]

    This link is the best documentation I've been able to find thus far:

    http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html

    I posted it earlier, I don't know if you saw it.
  36. I'll give that a try when I get a chance, thank you. :)

    I realize nVidia supports Linux better than ATi... but a new vid card isn't an option for me right now. I had it working under FC3, which is why it's frustrating the hell out of me now.

    I know it's mostly me being Linux-stupid... but I'm almost tempted to install 32-bit FC5 just to see if I have any better luck there. I wanted to try the x86_64... but I suppose if it becomes too problematic, I'll go back to 32 bit.
  37. Quote:
    I'll give that a try when I get a chance, thank you. :)

    I realize nVidia supports Linux better than ATi... but a new vid card isn't an option for me right now. I had it working under FC3, which is why it's frustrating the hell out of me now.

    I know it's mostly me being Linux-stupid... but I'm almost tempted to install 32-bit FC5 just to see if I have any better luck there. I wanted to try the x86_64... but I suppose if it becomes too problematic, I'll go back to 32 bit.



    FC5 should be better in many respects. I'm not sure if the driver will work any better though.

    What I do know is that the nVidia drivers work fine on i386 and x86_64.

    All well-written software also works fine on x86_64.

    Besides FC? x86_64 can run 32 and 64bit code.
  38. LOL.

    I hear ya, dude, I hear ya.

    I'm still in the process of downloading the DVD iso for i386... thought it was done already, but it's not.

    The experience I had with FC3 i386 was positive, so I'll try FC5 i386. Besides, there's other software I'd like to install that I'm having a hard time finding. Installing Flash, for instance, is one thing I'd like to be able to do.

    I appreciate all the help. Hopefully I'll have less trouble with my i386 install and I won't have to pester you any more.
  39. Quote:
    LOL.

    I hear ya, dude, I hear ya.

    I'm still in the process of downloading the DVD iso for i386... thought it was done already, but it's not.

    The experience I had with FC3 i386 was positive, so I'll try FC5 i386. Besides, there's other software I'd like to install that I'm having a hard time finding. Installing Flash, for instance, is one thing I'd like to be able to do.

    I appreciate all the help. Hopefully I'll have less trouble with my i386 install and I won't have to pester you any more.



    Actually flash DOES work under x86_64 you just have to tweak the installer.

    I modified the installer and got it to work on:

    Linux host 2.6.16-1.2069_FC4 #1 Tue Mar 28 12:19:04 EST 2006 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux




    I'll give you the magic changes if you want. Just PM me.
  40. Well, I did end up installing the 32-bit kernel... but I managed to get everything up and running.

    (Or at least I think I did... heh)

    This page was extremely helpful in getting the ATi driver from Livna installed... I attempted the ATi driver and met with the same issues. Now my 3D seems to be working! :)

    Thanks again for all the time and patience.... I appreciate it.
  41. You can run:


    glxinfo -v
    [/code:1:df87754508]

    to confirm it worked

    You can also run:

  42. Getting around 630 fps in glxgears in fullscreen. I'm assuming this means everything is working as it should? :)
  43. Quote:
    Getting around 630 fps in glxgears in fullscreen. I'm assuming this means everything is working as it should? :)



    That's pretty dang good :-D :-D

    I think it's working, but it wouldn't hurt to run glxinfo -v to make sure.

    DRI should be enabled and the OpenGL provider should be ATI.


    I get:


    5201 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1040.200 FPS
    5846 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1169.200 FPS
    6043 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1208.600 FPS
    6045 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1209.000 FPS
    6008 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1201.600 FPS
    [/code:1:7f38909c7d]

    @ the default resolution

    [code:1:7f38909c7d]
    .
    .
    .
    direct rendering: Yes
    server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
    server glx version string: 1.4
    .
    .
    .
    OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
    OpenGL renderer string: GeForce FX 5500/AGP/SSE2
    OpenGL version string: 2.0.2 NVIDIA 87.56
    .
    .
    .
    [/code:1:7f38909c7d]
  44. This is what I have with glxinfo:

    name of display: :0.0
    display: :0 screen: 0
    direct rendering: Yes
    server glx vendor string: SGI
    server glx version string: 1.2
    server glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
    GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe, GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier,
    GLX_SGIX_fbconfig
    client glx vendor string: ATI
    client glx version string: 1.3
    client glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float,
    GLX_ATI_render_texture
    GLX version: 1.2
    GLX extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_ARB_multisample
    OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
    OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9700 PRO Generic
    OpenGL version string: 2.0.5695 (8.23.7)[/code:1:55c2c41585]
  45. Quote:
    This is what I have with glxinfo:

    name of display: :0.0
    display: :0 screen: 0
    direct rendering: Yes
    server glx vendor string: SGI
    server glx version string: 1.2
    server glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
    GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe, GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier,
    GLX_SGIX_fbconfig
    client glx vendor string: ATI
    client glx version string: 1.3
    client glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float,
    GLX_ATI_render_texture
    GLX version: 1.2
    GLX extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_ARB_multisample
    OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
    OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9700 PRO Generic
    OpenGL version string: 2.0.5695 (8.23.7)[/code:1:8fbe0c175b]



    Perfect! :-D

    Looks good!
  46. I knew I'd figure it out eventually. :)

    Now the next step is to figure out Wine and see if I can't get a few Windows games to run.
  47. Quote:
    I knew I'd figure it out eventually. :)

    Now the next step is to figure out Wine and see if I can't get a few Windows games to run.



    http://winehq.org/site/documentation

    http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php?catId=2

    http://transgaming.org/forum/

    http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/

    Good Luck :-D
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