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November 21, 2004 3:25:11 AM

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I need to move all the files in front of disk so I can shrink the NTFS
partition. But the built-in one always leave some files at the end of my
hard disk. Any way to move the files in front of disk?
Anonymous
November 21, 2004 5:34:11 AM

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To shrink the size of a partition you need third-party software. By far the
most popular program is Norton Partition Magic.

A friendly tip: Altering the structure of your hard disk is not a job for
the novice. Asking the question that you asked brands you a novice.

Ted Zieglar

"nick" <nbdy9@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:o Mid9p4zEHA.824@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>I need to move all the files in front of disk so I can shrink the NTFS
>partition. But the built-in one always leave some files at the end of my
>hard disk. Any way to move the files in front of disk?
>
November 21, 2004 3:27:27 PM

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I don't have Partition Magic and I am using qtparted from Linux to do it.
Usually these kind of tools can shrink the partition to the largest continue
free space of the partition. That's why I need defrag the disk so the files
will be moved to the beginning of the partition. However, the XP built-in
defraq doesn't move all the files to the begining of the partition.

"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
news:uiT1%23x5zEHA.2600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> To shrink the size of a partition you need third-party software. By far
> the most popular program is Norton Partition Magic.
>
> A friendly tip: Altering the structure of your hard disk is not a job for
> the novice. Asking the question that you asked brands you a novice.
>
> Ted Zieglar
>
> "nick" <nbdy9@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:o Mid9p4zEHA.824@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>I need to move all the files in front of disk so I can shrink the NTFS
>>partition. But the built-in one always leave some files at the end of my
>>hard disk. Any way to move the files in front of disk?
>>
>
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Anonymous
November 21, 2004 3:43:15 PM

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What you are trying to do is wrong and will eventually damage your system.

Ted Zieglar

"nick" <nbdy9@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:o %23E7o9%23zEHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>I don't have Partition Magic and I am using qtparted from Linux to do it.
>Usually these kind of tools can shrink the partition to the largest
>continue free space of the partition. That's why I need defrag the disk so
>the files will be moved to the beginning of the partition. However, the XP
>built-in defraq doesn't move all the files to the begining of the
>partition.
>
> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uiT1%23x5zEHA.2600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> To shrink the size of a partition you need third-party software. By far
>> the most popular program is Norton Partition Magic.
>>
>> A friendly tip: Altering the structure of your hard disk is not a job for
>> the novice. Asking the question that you asked brands you a novice.
>>
>> Ted Zieglar
>>
>> "nick" <nbdy9@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:o Mid9p4zEHA.824@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>I need to move all the files in front of disk so I can shrink the NTFS
>>>partition. But the built-in one always leave some files at the end of my
>>>hard disk. Any way to move the files in front of disk?
>>>
>>
>
>
November 21, 2004 4:30:52 PM

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Why it's wrong? I just want a defrag program that moves files to the
beginning and so I can shrink the disk to half of its original size.

"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
news:eYCHUG$zEHA.2804@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> What you are trying to do is wrong and will eventually damage your system.
>
> Ted Zieglar
>
> "nick" <nbdy9@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:o %23E7o9%23zEHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>I don't have Partition Magic and I am using qtparted from Linux to do it.
>>Usually these kind of tools can shrink the partition to the largest
>>continue free space of the partition. That's why I need defrag the disk so
>>the files will be moved to the beginning of the partition. However, the XP
>>built-in defraq doesn't move all the files to the begining of the
>>partition.
>>
>> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uiT1%23x5zEHA.2600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> To shrink the size of a partition you need third-party software. By far
>>> the most popular program is Norton Partition Magic.
>>>
>>> A friendly tip: Altering the structure of your hard disk is not a job
>>> for the novice. Asking the question that you asked brands you a novice.
>>>
>>> Ted Zieglar
>>>
>>> "nick" <nbdy9@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:o Mid9p4zEHA.824@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>I need to move all the files in front of disk so I can shrink the NTFS
>>>>partition. But the built-in one always leave some files at the end of my
>>>>hard disk. Any way to move the files in front of disk?
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Anonymous
November 22, 2004 1:00:05 AM

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"nick" <nbdy9.removethis@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Why it's wrong? I just want a defrag program that moves files to the
>beginning and so I can shrink the disk to half of its original size.
>

Get BootIt Next Generation from www.bootitng.com

It has a 30 day free trial period.

Do not install it - just run it from the disk and you can resize and
adjust the partitions as you wish.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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Anonymous
November 22, 2004 4:03:29 AM

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"nick" <nbdy9@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<O#E7o9#zEHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
> I don't have Partition Magic and I am using qtparted from Linux to do it.
> Usually these kind of tools can shrink the partition to the largest continue
> free space of the partition.

That's an old story. You use an obsolete version of the NTFS resizer
that didn't support data relocation originally:
http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html#fra...

Just use one of the free system/recovery/rescue/admin live
CD/DVD/USB-Key/floppy software (there is also a long list of them in
a table on the above URL) that has a more up-to-date version and you
should be fine. It has built-in defragmentation and sophisticated
consistency check for extra safety. It's much faster and safer than
Partition Magic.

> That's why I need defrag the disk so the files
> will be moved to the beginning of the partition. However, the XP built-in
> defraq doesn't move all the files to the begining of the partition.
>
> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uiT1%23x5zEHA.2600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > To shrink the size of a partition you need third-party software. By far
> > the most popular program is Norton Partition Magic.
> >
> > A friendly tip: Altering the structure of your hard disk is not a job for
> > the novice. Asking the question that you asked brands you a novice.
> >
> > Ted Zieglar
> >
> > "nick" <nbdy9@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:o Mid9p4zEHA.824@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >>I need to move all the files in front of disk so I can shrink the NTFS
> >>partition. But the built-in one always leave some files at the end of my
> >>hard disk. Any way to move the files in front of disk?
> >>
> >
Anonymous
November 23, 2004 1:15:03 AM

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I have spent the last three days trying to figure out a way to do the exact
same thing. Here is why you cannot. One: the positioning of files on a hard
drive is not in a linear fashion. "Most efficient" organization by way of
defragging does not consolidate information the same way you or I would. To
put it as plainly as possible the shortest distance between 2 pts (imagine
the drive head rotating to collect bits and pieces of data on 6 spinning
plates) is not a straight line. Lrg Apps are placed on the outer rings of
these plates and the information they reference when making their decisions
generally comes from the center.

To cut this short the reality is this: In theory it can be done. It is
not worth saving money if it can be done right. If it is worth it for you
not to reinstall and back it up. . . pay as much for it as you have to. I
went with VCOM's Part. Commander and the Boot disks I created directly from
their CD didnt work. NTFS is too new to be supported without MSFT help
"nick" wrote:

> I need to move all the files in front of disk so I can shrink the NTFS
> partition. But the built-in one always leave some files at the end of my
> hard disk. Any way to move the files in front of disk?
>
>
>
August 13, 2009 9:41:07 PM

whats with quoting the entire discussion? n00b?
March 4, 2011 10:44:51 PM

I have also successfully used GPartEd (GNOME Partition Editor) on a linux Live CD to resize NTFS partitions (google System Rescue CD) with no problem... However, the original question was how to move all the files to the 'front' of the hard drive using a defragger.

Here's a link to many free defraggers: http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/defragmentation...

The first one on that list (Defraggler) works fine for me, and its installation program even allows installing it to a USB stick, whence it runs fine on any windows machine I've tried.

Once it starts, uncheck most of the options (all but "show cleanup drive prompt before defrag"), and using Action->Advanced->Defrag Freespace, it shouldn't take long to move all the files to the 'front' of the drive.

p.s. As condescending as the first reply was, it's no wonder they answered anonymously.
March 17, 2013 2:25:21 AM

nick said:
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

I don't have Partition Magic and I am using qtparted from Linux to do it.
Usually these kind of tools can shrink the partition to the largest continue
free space of the partition. That's why I need defrag the disk so the files
will be moved to the beginning of the partition. However, the XP built-in
defraq doesn't move all the files to the begining of the partition.

"Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
news:uiT1%23x5zEHA.2600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> To shrink the size of a partition you need third-party software. By far
> the most popular program is Norton Partition Magic.
>
> A friendly tip: Altering the structure of your hard disk is not a job for
> the novice. Asking the question that you asked brands you a novice.
>
> Ted Zieglar
>
> "nick" <nbdy9@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:o Mid9p4zEHA.824@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>I need to move all the files in front of disk so I can shrink the NTFS
>>partition. But the built-in one always leave some files at the end of my
>>hard disk. Any way to move the files in front of disk?
>>
>


Anonymous said:
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

What you are trying to do is wrong and will eventually damage your system.

Ted Zieglar

"nick" <nbdy9@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:o %23E7o9%23zEHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>I don't have Partition Magic and I am using qtparted from Linux to do it.
>Usually these kind of tools can shrink the partition to the largest
>continue free space of the partition. That's why I need defrag the disk so
>the files will be moved to the beginning of the partition. However, the XP
>built-in defraq doesn't move all the files to the begining of the
>partition.
>
> "Ted Zieglar" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uiT1%23x5zEHA.2600@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> To shrink the size of a partition you need third-party software. By far
>> the most popular program is Norton Partition Magic.
>>
>> A friendly tip: Altering the structure of your hard disk is not a job for
>> the novice. Asking the question that you asked brands you a novice.
>>
>> Ted Zieglar
>>
>> "nick" <nbdy9@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:o Mid9p4zEHA.824@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>I need to move all the files in front of disk so I can shrink the NTFS
>>>partition. But the built-in one always leave some files at the end of my
>>>hard disk. Any way to move the files in front of disk?
>>>
>>
>
>


March 17, 2013 2:28:49 AM

Hello and welcome to Tom's Hardware Forums, A Tech but it's not a good start to raise old threads which at over ninety days without a post, we regard as dead. I'm closing this one now but please find recent threads in future - oh and it helps to post something. :D 

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