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October 19, 2010 8:33:20 PM

I thought that a ban was enough...
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October 19, 2010 8:35:04 PM

Wow, I remember back in high school when I actually wanted to play Starcraft and WarcraftII and Diablo. Thanks Activision, you've sure taken the company in an exciting new direction.
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October 19, 2010 8:36:23 PM

banning is fine with me, but a fine? get some better programmers before blaming everyone else. same with mw2. my god if i can play a game without a waller or aimbot im having the time of my life.
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October 19, 2010 8:37:23 PM

Nail them good! Keep SC2 clean for me!
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October 19, 2010 8:39:02 PM

So if I make a controller with a rapid fire mode and sell them, should game companies sue me because others might be using it?

Some people hack for fun against willing players. I know there are CS servers where everyone on them is using hacks and they're open about it. They do it for fun.

Ban the people using them in anonymous games, but that's it.
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October 19, 2010 8:39:08 PM

good for blizzard. **** cheaters.
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October 19, 2010 8:41:37 PM

Cant wait to read all the crap that'll be spewed here in the comments section. Serves em right. Follow the rules or beat it. =D
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October 19, 2010 8:42:16 PM

Tag the crackers while your at it.
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October 19, 2010 8:44:22 PM

It is nice to see they really trying to be aggressive against both hackers and the hacks they use. The way SC2 is intertwined both singleplay and multiplayer into one account and keeps with a competitive and fairly robust matchmaker system, hackers and cheaters would easily make the entire system useless and make the game no fun to play whatsoever. Why would anyone who is playing legit want to play after getting Zerg rushed .2 seconds into a ranked game? With a game this balanced and competitive, a few cheaters and hackers definitely can ruin the whole experience for the masses. Sad too how if you cannot learn the game and play, you have to cheat which makes the whole point of strategy and winning pointless.
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October 19, 2010 8:45:37 PM

Wow that seems extreme, but I can unfortunately understand Blizzard's position, it is true hacking does damage the games value. It causes players (or in Blizzard's view, potential future customers) away from a product with which the sucker... err, customer would have otherwise been enjoying.

Compare it to a movie, if all my friends say the movie sucks, I'm very unlikely to go spend money and see it myself. If all my friends say a game sucks because of hackers, I'm very unlikely to go out and buy it.
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October 19, 2010 8:46:10 PM

Break the rules, pay the price. Not a problem. Next.
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October 19, 2010 8:46:37 PM

YES sue them into oblivion!
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October 19, 2010 8:46:47 PM

Those hakers only did this for money, without giving a damn about the damage they are causing to the online experience of thousands. So they should get sued. This is why many hakers only develop trainers for single-player.
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October 19, 2010 8:47:28 PM

i like how all of you are always about "FREE WILL" computing and then when this happens you're all against it to get positive points on your account.

really, like i said above, releasing software that can be hacked within hours is something that should be looked at internally. again, all about banning IPs and such but i don't think we are ready to say things like "nail them to the wall" because they didn't spend any time making sure the game is hack free.

im surprised so far by you android loving apple hating fans. i say we blame blizzard before any lowly hackers.
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Anonymous
October 19, 2010 8:47:56 PM

apparently the hackers were making some good profits from their scheme. that's where you're gonna draw some legal attention.
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October 19, 2010 8:49:22 PM

They should have hired them.
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October 19, 2010 8:49:58 PM

Too bad IW doesn't do this for MW2, maybe I would have actually played that game for longer than 3 weeks then.
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October 19, 2010 8:50:26 PM

curiousgeorgieoThey should have hired them.


see, there you go. finally someone with a good comment.
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October 19, 2010 8:53:48 PM

I'm glad Blizzard is doing this. Making hack is one thing, selling them is another. I'm glad these morons are getting some comeback from their actions.
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Anonymous
October 19, 2010 8:55:35 PM

.....That, in turn, causes users to grow dissatisfied with the game, lose interest in the game, and communicate that dissatisfaction, thereby resulting in lost sales of the game or 'add-on' packs and expansions thereto."

give me a break.. Did Blizzard ever think that these cheaters are wanting to play because of the advantage the cheats gave them? It didnt create "disatisfaction" or loss of interest to play.. it created satisfaction and a desire to play more..

a Ban is appropriate.. Law suit is ridiculous.
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October 19, 2010 8:57:19 PM

tronikaim surprised so far by you android loving apple hating fans. i say we blame blizzard before any lowly hackers.

there's a HUGE difference between developing software for an open source OS and hacking a game to cheat it.
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October 19, 2010 9:05:09 PM

tolham said:
there's a HUGE difference between developing software for an open source OS and hacking a game to cheat it.

Especially if the culprits were profitting ($$$) from the hack. The issue is not whether SC2 was easily hacked. It is a matter to taking something of value and using for another's gain. That is stealing and is punishable. Not a complex issue.
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October 19, 2010 9:06:35 PM

Judging from the nicknames, they better release a linux version soon or this will happen again.
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October 19, 2010 9:10:21 PM

incase you have not soiled your pants by getting a ban from MP and SP, this outta do it!
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October 19, 2010 9:13:02 PM

I am happy this is occuring. Good Blizzard, keep the game clean, as it should be. Maybe Activision should have done something like this for MW2 and there would be a more reputable online ranking system, therefore increasing TRUE competitiveness, and therefore, fun. Thank the heavens that Black Ops is coming with dedicated servers (as limited as they truly are, though, better than nothing.).
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October 19, 2010 9:13:33 PM

I think thats great. They should go after them considering they ruining the gaming experience for the rest of us.
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October 19, 2010 9:15:47 PM

Blizz just isn't the company it used to be :/ 
Yeah, cheaters suck, but this seems a little extreme..
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October 19, 2010 9:16:05 PM

Guys... enough with the Activision hating...

Everyone's first reaction is to jump on the Activision sucks and they love nothing but money bandwagon, but in this particular case, Blizzard is right. If there is rampant cheating, people are less likely to buy the next StarCraft II title. Therefore, Blizzard is suing the people who created the hack because it is enabling cheating, and ruining the online experience for its customers who paid for the game.

If you've ever played against hackers, you'll know it SUCKS.
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October 19, 2010 9:19:04 PM

I frowned at the thought of them suing the makers but I didn't know they were profiting from it, that changes my view.
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October 19, 2010 9:20:23 PM

While I understand why Blizzard is doing this, I am very much against it. This is perversion of laws designed to protect a company's intellectual property from outright piracy, thus depriving them of the right to profit from their IP. If you want to start talking about crap like loading it into memory without their blessing for purposes other than what they originally intended, then I think we have to look at an article that came out on G4.com yesterday talking about all of the features that have been incorporated into WoW that are based on the work of add-on creators and even other MMORPGs. I think if Blizzard is succesful in this suit, they might set a dangerous precedent which will eventually come back to bite them in the arse.
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October 19, 2010 9:20:25 PM

There is no offline when you're required to be connected. It's Ubisoft DRM taken to a new level.

That said, if these guys were actually reselling cheats, they should've seen it coming.
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October 19, 2010 9:21:13 PM

This is why I LAN... but Blizzard wont let me even let me do that w
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October 19, 2010 9:23:50 PM

To those of you defending the hackers- the hackers had to agree to the terms of the game in order to play it. Once you consent not to ruin the fun for others, you should stick to it.

Updates are one way to protect the game. Terms of service are another. Banning users who exploit them is another. Lawsuits are yet a fourth means of protection for the game.

In this case, I blame the hackers for being stupid enough to agree to Blizzard's terms, give them their info, and then hack the game. If they were that dumb, then they deserve to get sued.
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October 19, 2010 9:31:03 PM

Make an example of them.
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October 19, 2010 9:32:35 PM

Hopefully one day there will be a solution to this, people deserve a clean/fair experience.. the hacking just degrades the game in so many ways, basically steers people away from playing just like MW2 where if I can recall correctly there were more than 2 million users playing online on a daily basis.. Now its down to 20,000 users which IMHO is an absolute fail.

I don't really see the point, you lose your skill, you get noticed immediately, and you basically tarnish your rep. Whats the point of swapping IP's every time you get caught, waste of time/money IMO.
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October 19, 2010 9:46:41 PM

curiousgeorgieoThey should have hired them.

Why? Reverse engineering a game and developing trainers does not require any special abilities, it just takes practice and a different set of skills that would not be well suited at game development. There are also a few companies out there that can assist Blizzard better with security than a few developers who made hacks.

Blizzard is making the right move suing them. I hope they succeed.

Developing hacks/trainers for personal use in order to test your abilities is one thing, but doing it and then distributing/selling it is another.
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October 19, 2010 9:47:04 PM

Blizzard better watch it, if they were selling hacks then i'm okay with the law suit, but if they were giving it away and they got suit i would request battle.net get ddos'd. I know that wouldn't cause loss of profit haha.
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October 19, 2010 9:48:37 PM

Very extreme IMO. Not sure if I like the way Activision (Blizzard's REAL backing) does business. Well, I already know I don't like the way they do business but this certainly does butter up the bread. It's really hard for me to imagine buying another Activision product in the future.

And for you would-be-sayers of the point of view that they mess the whole system up you forget a few things. SC2 from the BEGINNING was this stupid (again, IMO) automatic login to the "community". I'm sure I'm not the only one who cared less about this feature. I don't believe you should automatically be logged in to this sort of feature. What if some people just want to hack and cheat on single player (which some did and got banned), you take away something that the PC market is supposed to have the freedom to do so. Blizzard, YOU chose to have the game this way (or Activision, whoever made the decision).

And yes, I do realize that saying these things will put me in the light as one of these hackers when that is false. I have had a bit o' fun hacking for a small amount back during SC1, when it was a LAN game with some buddies, or if others were doing the same online. Though I have not hacked in quite some time, possibly years.

I am basing my opinion on morals alone and how I feel in that we lose control over our media more and more as time passes. If I buy a product there should be less restrictions and more to cater to the person who bought the game.
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October 19, 2010 9:49:54 PM

I'm not defending the hackers if they violated any laws. At the same time, its Blizzard/Activision's fault for tying the game into their stupid Battle.net system.

Believe it or not, I've have NEVER played a Blizzard game over Battle.Net regularly (I played an open DiabloII game for like 15 minutes once, lost a bunch of ears). I don't give a rats ass about my ranking or anyone else's. I just want to be able to play the game at a leisurely pace, and sometimes that means cheating.

I even wrote my own local-character hacker for Diablo II, it would only up stats and grant skills, and un-kill Hardcore characters. I was never able to create items. Point is, it was a fun exercise in hex-editing and programming, plus the ability to one-hit kill almost every MOB was cool too. I'd hate to think Blizzard would sue me if I could even try to do the same on Diablo III (for Starcraft, the in-game cheats were sufficient for my needs, and I assume Starcraft II has similar cheats?). But then again, with the mandatory tie-in to Battle.Net, I haven't even bothered buying Starcraft II and probably won't buy Diablo III.
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October 19, 2010 9:50:02 PM

Waaa Waaa waa is all I hear. A ban is good enough. Unless they were selling a large quality of mods, quit bitching blizzard. Maybe offer them a job instead of sueing them
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October 19, 2010 9:50:32 PM

For profit? Idiots, I'm glad they are being sued.
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October 19, 2010 9:52:19 PM

I question how much jurisdiction the Los Angeles US District Court has in Canada or Peru.
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October 19, 2010 9:55:16 PM

SteveLordMake an example of them.


^ This. Cheaters suck. gtfo.
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October 19, 2010 9:59:06 PM

I have to agree with Blizzard on this one. "Companies" who make "software" as an addon for Blizzard's property, and then make money for profit off of it should be sued. It's the very premise behind copyright infringement. It's not like these "cheats" work on all games, they are designed for use specifically with Blizzard's software.
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October 19, 2010 10:01:09 PM

I sort of approve, these are not regular hacks, they are doing it for a profit. They should not be profiting to degrade the service for legitimate license holders.

But, knowing how clueless the baby boomers in charge are, the penalty will probably not fix the crime.
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October 19, 2010 10:01:55 PM

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So if I make a controller with a rapid fire mode and sell them, should game companies sue me because others might be using it?

Some people hack for fun against willing players. I know there are CS servers where everyone on them is using hacks and they're open about it. They do it for fun.

Ban the people using them in anonymous games, but that's it.


Blizzard is suing the people that cracked their game and distributed it. This is against their EULA and is copyright infringement. They have every right to sue. However, I do agree that a ban should be enough. I hate Activision as much as everyone else, and they're getting pretty close to RIAA-hatred levels.

The people that download games, movies, music, etc have no intention of buying it, at least not without trying it first (although most just have no intention of buying it). I know I download a game if there is no demo before I waste $50-60 on something that may be complete crap. If it is a good game, I buy it. If not, I get rid of it. If game companies want to keep me from pirating their games, all they have to do is make sure they release a demo for them. If they want me to actually buy a game, they should make it damn good.
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October 19, 2010 10:09:39 PM

COLGeekBreak the rules, pay the price. Not a problem. Next.

Perhaps this would be more fair if the rules stated that the penalty for breaking them was getting sued and charged with idiotic claims such as "inducing players to infringe copyright by loading copyrighted content into the system RAM" by a corporation that has infinitely more money than you and all your friends combined.
Either way, don't try to bull**** us into believing that you've never committed copyright infringement or broken an end-user license agreement. We know you have, and we know you would **** bricks if you were sued for it.
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October 19, 2010 10:10:42 PM

I love this! Finally someone is doing something about people who destroy online games. I do not play FPSers anymore because of the rampant hacking.
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October 19, 2010 10:18:52 PM

jerreeceI have to agree with Blizzard on this one. "Companies" who make "software" as an addon for Blizzard's property, and then make money for profit off of it should be sued. It's the very premise behind copyright infringement. It's not like these "cheats" work on all games, they are designed for use specifically with Blizzard's software.

These guys weren't selling blizzard's IP, they were selling their own original code (I assume) and thus are entitled to make money selling it if they so choose.

These laws aren't in place to prevent this, they're in place to prevent folks from selling other people's copyrighted works as their own.

In other news, Honda is planning to sue Larry's muffler shop for selling add on mufflers for the accord sedan... The whole premise of this lawsuit is ridiculous.
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