New Case Questions

tight fit but it should fit. id probably got a SOHO server case.

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Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.0G \
Asus P4C800 \
Corsair 2x512 3200LL memory \
Radeon 9600pro @ 500/700/1.35 \
SB Live 5.1 \
80G Seagate S-ATA150 \
430 Antec 1080AMG

The system in my sig is my current system. I'm in the process of putting together another gaming box. On my current rig the ram works at 250 fsb with just a voltage up for me. I have my new rig running at 2.8 @ 3.5 on an Abit IC7-G and Geil Platinum pc4000. Originally I was getting heat related shutdowns, But I have recently upgraded my cooling to a SLK-800U with a Thermalright Smart Case Fan 2 and some Artic Silver 3. Just for your info I prefer the Abit to the Asus for overclocking, Just my opinion.

2.4C @ 3.0, Asus p4p800 Deluxe, 1 Gig Corsair XMS pc3200, Radeon 9800 Pro, WD Raptor

did your memory work without a hitch or did you have to do some adjustments to the timings to make it work right?

If upping the voltage doesn't work, try turning off PAT before you adjust the timings. From what I've read lower memory timings with PAT disabled performs better than higher timings with PAT enabled.

The whole dual-channel PC3200 low-latency thing is a definite problem for Intel systems. Not many people can actually achive it without seriously upping the VDIMM or disabling PAT. That's why I only bothered getting XMS C2 instead of LL for my system. On the plus side though, the P4 has really good prefetching so unlike the AXP it isn't a significant performance hit to have slightly higher timings.

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It ought to be somewhere in BIOS, however I just downloaded the manual for the IC7-G and I couldn't find it anywhere in the manual. :\ Odd. I guess ABit decided not to give customers the choice. Bummer. I wonder if this is a new development under pressure from Intel or if ABit has always left that out. Anywho, without a choice it looks like VDIMM and memory timings are your only options then.

To my knowledge VDIMM should be 2.5V at stock. I've heard (though never verified) that some memory manus actually rate their RAM as high as 2.8V. Personally I wouldn't put the voltage higher than 2.8V myself anyway, and between 2.6V and 2.7V is probably more than enough unless you're seriously OCing your RAM or something.

The worst that could happen I suppose is that your RAM overheats. I suppose that it could burn out like an over-volted CPU would. I've no idea. I haven't actually heard of anyone frying their RAM before. :\

How the motherboard handles that if it does go too far though is probably up to the motherboard. I'd imaigne that you might have to clear CMOS if it has no way to revert back to earlier settings in case of a failure.

Personally I just haven't messed around with my RAM that much. I've never needed to. Maybe in the OCing section or the memory section you could find some people with a little more experience on this.

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