Thinking of getting...

Aspire Superalien w/ 500w psu

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] &section=3

any thoughts?

Good case choice but like he said who knows wat psu you would get.

Barton 2500+ @ 2200mhz (10x220 vcore @ 1.775)
Asus A7N8X Dlx 440 FSB
1gb Geil GD pc3500 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6)
Segata 80gb SATA 8.5ms seek
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro(420/700)

I must have entered the wrong model #. The one I want comes with: 500W P4 Aluminum Power Supply if that helps.

should be here: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 007&depa=0

Are you INSANE or stupid? $150 for that, when Chieftec sells the SAME CASE for $55 at Newegg? The only difference is the DRIVE DOOR as far as I know, they're made by the same company using the same material. Is a different style drive door worth $95 to you?

Oh, I see it comes with lighted fans too, maybe those are what cost $95?

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Seriously, when I saw that price an ALARM went off in MY HEAD! Hehe. Anyway, you'll find several cases that look pretty much the same as that one at Newegg, made of Aluminum or (in the case of Antec) Steel. And they are all made by the same company, out of the same materials. The newever version turns the hard drives sideways so they slide in easily, the older version uses removeable cages that disengage with a lever. Either one would suit you fine. So they you start looking at various designs for the drive door, etc. You'll find Thermaltake notches the door out for their heat monitor/fanbus thing to stick through. But this case you linked is very basic, which is why I suggested you find a more reasonably priced version.

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Certainly, but that power supply is an unknown entity of unknown quality to me. Certainly a top quality 400W is better than a cheap 500W. But I'll just have to show you a SUPERIOR solution for LESS money.

<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduct.asp?description=11-125-262&depa=1" target="_new">Chieftec's original design case</A> $55
OR
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?DEPA=1&sumit=Go&description=11-129-124&searchdepa=1" target="_new">The Antec version</A> $68
OR
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduct.asp?description=11-144-065&depa=1" target="_new">This Aluminum Version</A> $79
OR
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduct.asp?description=11-125-272&depa=1" target="_new">This Windows Aluminum Version</A> $82
OR
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduct.asp?description=11-133-116&depa=1" target="_new">How About the Xaser III version</A> $89

and the <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-968&depa=0" target="_new">Fortron 530W power supply (good for over 600W peak)</A>

All of which seem expensive when I consider the Chieftech and Aspire aluminum ones with window are $89 with a reasonably decent cheap 420W power supply.

Personally if I didn't mind drive doors, I'd go with the first case and the Fortron 350W for $42, it's been able to power everything I could throw at it and comes with a 120mm adjustable speed fan.

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You should be able to get an Abit IS7, P4 2.6C, and 2x512MB OCZ PC3700 Gold Rev.2, for under $600, and overclock that to around 3250MHz.

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You prefer that to an AMD setup?

Oh, the NF7-S also has the advantage of the nForce APU, a VERY GOOD audio processor.

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The low price and top notch sound make the AMD solution a better deal.

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The multiplier on the new Baron cores are locked, you can still overclock by changing the FSB, which is why Crashman suggest you buy ram that is rated at 400 so if you overclock to 200fsb it can still run in sync.

AMD chips run hotter then Intel so you might have to look at aftermarket HS/Fan to clock it very high.

Think I'm gonna go with the AMD setup, seems like it will be fine. If I go ahead and get that new board when I get a new case can I set everything up using my 1800xp until I get a new cpu and RAM?

I think bestbuy sells a limited selection of Kingston HyperX series.

But it would be cheaper on Newegg, unless of course you got Gift Card to bestbuy then I guess it doesnt matter.

How could I tell if the nf7-s on bestbuy.com is the version 2?

Hey Crashman, just in principle, how do you like the aspire 500W Super UV Reactive Power Supply? Is it just all looks?

And do you know what site(s) I can research for thermocooling and electric and water cooling? Not to mention reliable sites that sell this equipment?

Thanks man.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 14&order=1

That's the link for the PSU. BTW, you may have simply missed or forgot to answer the question, which is understandable, but what is your experience with TEC and liquid cooling? What can you recommend?

I'm getting a fortron 530W, but here are some reviews of this PSU - the Aspire 500W clear PSU.

http://www.extrememhz.com/aspire-p2.shtml

http://www.techimo.com/articles/i143.html (scroll to bottom and read comparison of antec and fortron PSUs, too - very interesting stuff!)