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I've noticed a problem in targetting in EQ2 that seems so obvious that
I'm wondering what I'm missing.
I had a 66 enchanter in EQ1, and I recently decided to start down the
enchanter path in EQ2. I just got my first mez spell (Fascinate) and
tonite I had to do some serious mezzing, which was fun... far more fun
for me than doing DPS or healing.
However, I ran into a problem that I've noticed before in EQ2: when
dealing with "grouped" mobs, there doesn't seem to be any good way to
determine which mob you have targetted. Normally as an enchanter I
assist the tank and then use the "next NPC" key to get a mez target,
but since that key doesn't always work, you need to be able to see the
mob you've got targetted.
With grouped mobs, ALL of the mobs have their names show up circled,
and ALL of them have a targetting circle on the ground. I think that
your target may have a blinking name, but I was staring at my screen
very closely tonite, and I really couldn't see any difference. And it
seemed like the "next NPC" key wasn't working very well, so I was
reduced to "use mouse to click on mob and see if it's going down, if
so click on next mob".
I talked it over with other people in my group, some of whom were EQ1
veterans, and they agreed the targetting was a problem (although they
felt I was doing a decent job). Just wondering if there are any
tricks that other people have picked up to handle mezzing.
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"murdocj" <murdocj@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've noticed a problem in targetting in EQ2 that seems so obvious that
> I'm wondering what I'm missing.
>
> I had a 66 enchanter in EQ1, and I recently decided to start down the
> enchanter path in EQ2. I just got my first mez spell (Fascinate) and
> tonite I had to do some serious mezzing, which was fun... far more fun
> for me than doing DPS or healing.
>
> However, I ran into a problem that I've noticed before in EQ2: when
> dealing with "grouped" mobs, there doesn't seem to be any good way to
> determine which mob you have targetted. Normally as an enchanter I
> assist the tank and then use the "next NPC" key to get a mez target,
> but since that key doesn't always work, you need to be able to see the
> mob you've got targetted.
>
> With grouped mobs, ALL of the mobs have their names show up circled,
> and ALL of them have a targetting circle on the ground. I think that
> your target may have a blinking name, but I was staring at my screen
> very closely tonite, and I really couldn't see any difference. And it
> seemed like the "next NPC" key wasn't working very well, so I was
> reduced to "use mouse to click on mob and see if it's going down, if
> so click on next mob".
>
> I talked it over with other people in my group, some of whom were EQ1
> veterans, and they agreed the targetting was a problem (although they
> felt I was doing a decent job). Just wondering if there are any
> tricks that other people have picked up to handle mezzing.
Look around in the options, you should find an option for a target arrow
there - it is off by default. I found that made things a bit easier for me.
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Also if you look at your target window, it will tell you what is targeted.
To cycle through mobs, hit the TAB key.
Peter
"Ryan T" <ryan@dontemailme.ca> wrote in message
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> "murdocj" <murdocj@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hd1ft0hg4kald6ljv6p6utjclhhbb4fdtb@4ax.com...
> > I've noticed a problem in targetting in EQ2 that seems so obvious that
> > I'm wondering what I'm missing.
> >
> > I had a 66 enchanter in EQ1, and I recently decided to start down the
> > enchanter path in EQ2. I just got my first mez spell (Fascinate) and
> > tonite I had to do some serious mezzing, which was fun... far more fun
> > for me than doing DPS or healing.
> >
> > However, I ran into a problem that I've noticed before in EQ2: when
> > dealing with "grouped" mobs, there doesn't seem to be any good way to
> > determine which mob you have targetted. Normally as an enchanter I
> > assist the tank and then use the "next NPC" key to get a mez target,
> > but since that key doesn't always work, you need to be able to see the
> > mob you've got targetted.
> >
> > With grouped mobs, ALL of the mobs have their names show up circled,
> > and ALL of them have a targetting circle on the ground. I think that
> > your target may have a blinking name, but I was staring at my screen
> > very closely tonite, and I really couldn't see any difference. And it
> > seemed like the "next NPC" key wasn't working very well, so I was
> > reduced to "use mouse to click on mob and see if it's going down, if
> > so click on next mob".
> >
> > I talked it over with other people in my group, some of whom were EQ1
> > veterans, and they agreed the targetting was a problem (although they
> > felt I was doing a decent job). Just wondering if there are any
> > tricks that other people have picked up to handle mezzing.
>
> Look around in the options, you should find an option for a target arrow
> there - it is off by default. I found that made things a bit easier for
me.
>
>
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"murdocj" <murdocj@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've noticed a problem in targetting in EQ2 that seems so obvious that
> I'm wondering what I'm missing.
>
> I had a 66 enchanter in EQ1, and I recently decided to start down the
> enchanter path in EQ2. I just got my first mez spell (Fascinate) and
> tonite I had to do some serious mezzing, which was fun... far more fun
> for me than doing DPS or healing.
------------------->% SNIP----------------------
Just wondering if there are any
> tricks that other people have picked up to handle mezzing.
I also had a EQ chanter.... one of the most rewarding classes
for us controlling type. I have noticed that sometimes the one
you have targeted has a circle that looks a little more solid.
Almost as if it were a slight bit brighter. This works well when
you only have 2 or 3 grouped, but for large groups it is very
difficult to notice in a hurry.
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 07:58:03 -0500, "peter walker" <nospam@cox.net>
wrote:
>Also if you look at your target window, it will tell you what is targeted.
>To cycle through mobs, hit the TAB key.
Problem is lots of times you have two of the same type of mob so the
target window doesn't tell you anything, except for the health, which
can be useful to see if it's going down... in that case MT is on it.
I also find that mentally it just slows me down a bit to hit "next
npc", stare at the main screen for a moment, and then think "oh yeah,
I can't tell what's targetted, check the target window.
Oh yeah, I'm supposed to yell at you for top posting. Consider
yourself chastised.
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 06:39:59 -0500, "Ryan T" <ryan@dontemailme.ca>
wrote:
>"murdocj" <murdocj@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> I've noticed a problem in targetting in EQ2 that seems so obvious that
>> I'm wondering what I'm missing.
>>
>> I had a 66 enchanter in EQ1, and I recently decided to start down the
>> enchanter path in EQ2. I just got my first mez spell (Fascinate) and
>> tonite I had to do some serious mezzing, which was fun... far more fun
>> for me than doing DPS or healing.
>>
>> However, I ran into a problem that I've noticed before in EQ2: when
>> dealing with "grouped" mobs, there doesn't seem to be any good way to
>> determine which mob you have targetted. Normally as an enchanter I
>> assist the tank and then use the "next NPC" key to get a mez target,
>> but since that key doesn't always work, you need to be able to see the
>> mob you've got targetted.
>>
>> With grouped mobs, ALL of the mobs have their names show up circled,
>> and ALL of them have a targetting circle on the ground. I think that
>> your target may have a blinking name, but I was staring at my screen
>> very closely tonite, and I really couldn't see any difference. And it
>> seemed like the "next NPC" key wasn't working very well, so I was
>> reduced to "use mouse to click on mob and see if it's going down, if
>> so click on next mob".
>>
>> I talked it over with other people in my group, some of whom were EQ1
>> veterans, and they agreed the targetting was a problem (although they
>> felt I was doing a decent job). Just wondering if there are any
>> tricks that other people have picked up to handle mezzing.
>
>Look around in the options, you should find an option for a target arrow
>there - it is off by default. I found that made things a bit easier for me.
>
Thanks for the tip. I was actually just thinking last nite after I
stopped playing that I ought to check the options.
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On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:16:39 GMT, murdocj <murdocj@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 06:39:59 -0500, "Ryan T" <ryan@dontemailme.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>"murdocj" <murdocj@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> I've noticed a problem in targetting in EQ2 that seems so obvious that
>>> I'm wondering what I'm missing.
>>>
>>> I had a 66 enchanter in EQ1, and I recently decided to start down the
>>> enchanter path in EQ2. I just got my first mez spell (Fascinate) and
>>> tonite I had to do some serious mezzing, which was fun... far more fun
>>> for me than doing DPS or healing.
>>>
>>> However, I ran into a problem that I've noticed before in EQ2: when
>>> dealing with "grouped" mobs, there doesn't seem to be any good way to
>>> determine which mob you have targetted. Normally as an enchanter I
>>> assist the tank and then use the "next NPC" key to get a mez target,
>>> but since that key doesn't always work, you need to be able to see the
>>> mob you've got targetted.
>>>
>>> With grouped mobs, ALL of the mobs have their names show up circled,
>>> and ALL of them have a targetting circle on the ground. I think that
>>> your target may have a blinking name, but I was staring at my screen
>>> very closely tonite, and I really couldn't see any difference. And it
>>> seemed like the "next NPC" key wasn't working very well, so I was
>>> reduced to "use mouse to click on mob and see if it's going down, if
>>> so click on next mob".
>>>
>>> I talked it over with other people in my group, some of whom were EQ1
>>> veterans, and they agreed the targetting was a problem (although they
>>> felt I was doing a decent job). Just wondering if there are any
>>> tricks that other people have picked up to handle mezzing.
>>
>>Look around in the options, you should find an option for a target arrow
>>there - it is off by default. I found that made things a bit easier for me.
>>
>
>Thanks for the tip. I was actually just thinking last nite after I
>stopped playing that I ought to check the options.
I checked the options and you are right, there are a ton of targetting
options... arrows, circles around names, targetting circle, glow, you
name it. I've experimented a little and think I have a combo that
works pretty well.
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>
> I checked the options and you are right, there are a ton of
targetting options... arrows, circles around names, targetting
circle, glow, you name it. I've experimented a little and think I
have a combo that works pretty well.
>
This is indeed good news! I had a 60 enchanter in EQ and have been
frustrated with my new baby EQII enchanter's targeting.
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BombayMix <bombaymix@altavista.co.uk> wrote:
> If you target a PC you hit the creature his attacking. So, just target
> the tank and you will hit whatever he is hitting.
And how does it help him to determine what mobs *not* to attack? After
all a chanter is for mezzing mobs not attacked by the MT...
Would've been clearer if you hadn't ommitted all of the post you were
referring to.
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>
> And how does it help him to determine what mobs *not* to attack?
After
> all a chanter is for mezzing mobs not attacked by the MT...
>
I suppose you could argue that if you know which one the MT is
attacking you can not mez that one and move on to another...
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"peter walker" <nospam@cox.net> writes:
> Also if you look at your target window, it will tell you what is targeted.
> To cycle through mobs, hit the TAB key.
>
Just a quick note:
Do NOT use tab to cycle through mobs during an encounter (especially
in small areas). Tab does not cycle through the encounter mobs, it
cycles through all nearby mobs. If you tab over nearby non-encounter
mobs and your melee button is down (or people /assisting you are
meleeing), you will engage the new mobs. If you are getting
mysterious [non-aggro] adds while fighting and no one is using AE,
this might be the culprit.
I have also noticed some weirdness with the melee button staying down after
combat is over when /assisting, this can also cause adds if the MT
uses TAB to find a new encounter.
Best to get used to not using tab for targetting until they fix this.
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hbh3@sbcglobal-dot-net.no-spam.invalid (Lanfiir) wrote in
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>>
>> And how does it help him to determine what mobs *not* to attack?
>> After all a chanter is for mezzing mobs not attacked by the MT...
>
> I suppose you could argue that if you know which one the MT is
> attacking you can not mez that one and move on to another...
>
One problem, targetting the tank will not tell you which one he is
attacking, it will merely cause any offensive spells you cast to hit the
mob he is targetting. Now if you then /assist, you will be targetting the
one being attacked.
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:18:57 +0100, Hagen Sienhold <durragon@web.de>
wrote:
>BombayMix <bombaymix@altavista.co.uk> wrote:
>> If you target a PC you hit the creature his attacking. So, just target
>> the tank and you will hit whatever he is hitting.
>
>And how does it help him to determine what mobs *not* to attack? After
>all a chanter is for mezzing mobs not attacked by the MT...
>
>Would've been clearer if you hadn't ommitted all of the post you were
>referring to.
As an enchanter I normally start off with the tank as my target. When
we've got incoming I hit my /assist key to pick up the puller's
target, and then use the next NPC key to pick up a mez target.
When the group is coordinated, I can do this fast enough that I
sometimes get the mez off before the add is at our camp.
Unfortunately it really requires some group coordination and
particularly at the low levels you get get people who are freaked out
by multiple mobs and start swinging at everything in sight, or you get
the tank changing targets and breaking mez.
I never appreciated how critical it was for tank to STAY ON ONE TARGET
until I played an enchanter to tanks who switched. About the only
time it's appropriate to switch is when the chanter calls out that a
target can't be mezzed.
> hbh3@sbcglobal-dot-net.no-spam.invalid (Lanfiir) wrote in
> news:AoACd.10808$wi2.6606@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:
>
> >>
> >> And how does it help him to determine what mobs *not* to attack?
> >> After all a chanter is for mezzing mobs not attacked by the MT...
> >
> > I suppose you could argue that if you know which one the MT is
> > attacking you can not mez that one and move on to another...
> >
>
> One problem, targetting the tank will not tell you which one he is
> attacking, it will merely cause any offensive spells you cast to hit the
> mob he is targetting. Now if you then /assist, you will be targetting the
> one being attacked.
Targetting the tank (or any player) will highlight whatever his target
is, unless you've turned that off (or failed to turn it on, not sure
what the defaults are) in the targetting options.
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Lanfiir <hbh3@sbcglobal-dot-net.no-spam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> And how does it help him to determine what mobs *not* to attack?
> After
>> all a chanter is for mezzing mobs not attacked by the MT...
>>
> I suppose you could argue that if you know which one the MT is
> attacking you can not mez that one and move on to another...
True. But that feature won't help him much since the engine decides
which mob to hit. This way you don't even get a visual feedback what mob
actually gets punished.
So we're back to where we started.
Hagen
P.S.: Btw, your posts still aren't sorted right in my newsreader. It
can't figure out your references. Am I the only one with this problem?
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"Graeme Faelban" <RichardRapier@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> hbh3@sbcglobal-dot-net.no-spam.invalid (Lanfiir) wrote in
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>
> >>
> >> And how does it help him to determine what mobs *not* to attack?
> >> After all a chanter is for mezzing mobs not attacked by the MT...
> >
> > I suppose you could argue that if you know which one the MT is
> > attacking you can not mez that one and move on to another...
> >
>
> One problem, targetting the tank will not tell you which one he is
> attacking, it will merely cause any offensive spells you cast to hit the
> mob he is targetting. Now if you then /assist, you will be targetting the
> one being attacked.
>
Actually it does. The target of your target glows faintly blue (iirc) with a
blue arrow over their head. But only when grouped with the person.
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"Davian" <davian@nospammindspring.com> wrote in
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>
>
>
> "Graeme Faelban" <RichardRapier@netscape.net> wrote in message
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>> hbh3@sbcglobal-dot-net.no-spam.invalid (Lanfiir) wrote in
>> news:AoACd.10808$wi2.6606@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:
>> >>
>> >> And how does it help him to determine what mobs *not* to attack?
>> >> After all a chanter is for mezzing mobs not attacked by the MT...
>> >
>> > I suppose you could argue that if you know which one the MT is
>> > attacking you can not mez that one and move on to another...
>>
>> One problem, targetting the tank will not tell you which one he is
>> attacking, it will merely cause any offensive spells you cast to hit
>> the mob he is targetting. Now if you then /assist, you will be
>> targetting the one being attacked.
>
> Actually it does. The target of your target glows faintly blue (iirc)
> with a blue arrow over their head. But only when grouped with the
> person.
>
Being a dwarf, I have a hard time seeing those arrows way up there above
the enemies...
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