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November 29, 2010 9:53:25 PM

the PC was a generation ahead two years ago, this isn't news.

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November 29, 2010 9:56:04 PM

Maybe if the game was worth spending $60 on....
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November 29, 2010 9:58:03 PM

Prove it then Crytek!...seriously when are we going to see another game that will push the graphics envelope for the PC?The PC community is getting sick of ports.
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November 29, 2010 9:58:55 PM

although I'm glad he stated

"...hardware limitations of the current console crop isn't the only factor keeping multi-format games locked down to a certain level of quality on the PC. He pointed to the less-than-spectacular revenue PC games generate when compared to what consoles rake in..." due to pirating.

honest PC gamers who pay for their games get screwed by developers and the scum bags who pirate games.
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November 29, 2010 10:04:17 PM

First things first , copyrighted games are available from ALL platforms , not just the PC, IF the game in question is popular enough you can bet dollars to doughnuts that it has been copied, bottom line , you cannot build a lock that someone else cannot pick,, quote , I built a machine that only an idiot could screw up, and guess what ??? end quote ...:) And anyhow what is stopping them from writing for the PC and then porting to other platforms, seems that it would be a lot easier to down grade for consoles etc, than to go the other way for the PC >>>:) 
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November 29, 2010 10:04:26 PM

In terms of graphics, sure. PC Hardware is updated more often than consoles.
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November 29, 2010 10:05:44 PM

*sigh* If only you could buy a gaming PC for $199, the market wouldn't be so small since many of the gamers are below 18(thus very little money) or won't justify $600+ for gaming when the comp will become worthless in a few years. Instead we have Intel gouging prices along with Windows 7. At least we have AMD for cheaper processors, but there isn't a free OS that will provide a good gaming experience.
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November 29, 2010 10:16:35 PM

So wait, he's complaining that because graphics has hit a wall, developers might actually have to make games that aren't just pretty? ;) 
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November 29, 2010 10:19:33 PM

I also agree that cost is an issue...

when crysis came out only rich people could enjoy it and we are just getting to full playability with what.. the next generation of GFX cards to come out in 2011...

sure you can take 3 gfx cards and crossfire/sli but people like me can't afford to buy even one high end card.

you can't release a game that only 5% or less of the community can afford to play and expect it to do well, that's just insane...

I don't even think you could max it out back then with those older cards and nvidia was charging over 500 bucks if I remember per card... ouch...
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November 29, 2010 10:20:43 PM

while piracy didnt help, the big problem was that it was released ahead of its time, most pcs could not play the game at medium+ quality. Essentially making it a niche game, yet it sold several million copies anyway. At its release, there was no computer on the planet capable of playing it at max details, and it cost a fortune to try to come close. (I tried) Crysis was the big benchmark game chart to look for in any new videocard review for ages.
Today an average game pc can do crysis at high detail, but gaming graphics havent really progressed since then. My gaming PC idles playing most new games.
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November 29, 2010 10:21:14 PM

dokk2First things first , copyrighted games are available from ALL platforms , not just the PC, IF the game in question is popular enough you can bet dollars to doughnuts that it has been copied, bottom line , you cannot build a lock that someone else cannot pick,, quote , I built a machine that only an idiot could screw up, and guess what ??? end quote ...And anyhow what is stopping them from writing for the PC and then porting to other platforms, seems that it would be a lot easier to down grade for consoles etc, than to go the other way for the PC >>>


As far as I am concerned, PS3 can't play hacked/ripped games.
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November 29, 2010 10:21:30 PM

Crytek is just a dishonest company. They gained all the popularity a PC ONLY game gave them, which enabled them to go on and have the necessary resources to build an engine that can run on THREE PLATFORMS and now they start hinting that the PC version will be sub-par...

Crytek, if you don't push another milestone with the PC version, I will surely NOT BUY IT! You can have all the Nvidia logos on the game (don't you receive a good sum from them too ?), but I won't buy a top of the line Nvidia card to play a game designed for 5 year old, DX9 7900GT-like hardware, which is what is inside a PS3, the most powerful of the two consoles.

This is completely dishonest and the same kind of thinking behind EA (Crytek's publisher) that got Crysis patches for only the first six months and is still the buggiest game I have ever played.

And that silly argument "Ohh Crysis is one of the most pirated games.." YES, but it's still one of the best selling games! It's natural! Chinese also copy Mercedes and BMW designs, because those cars sell well!

Now that they got rich from Crysis and all the accolades they won in the industry, they just want a quick buck out of the consoles. This is how they thank PC gamers.

Think about it: how much money and resources do you have to have gained in previous years to be able to make an engine that runs on two entirely different platforms such as the Xbox360 and (the admittedly difficult to program on) PS3 and adding to that the PC version ? Think about it. If they had focused on the PC version the game wouldn't have been delayed, would it ? But they have so much money and are expecting so much money, they can actually afford that, what do you know?

And more: a modern PC is TWO (at least) generations ahead of a console. Only if you factor in the average, then you could say it's just a generation.

Crytek carefully avoids this because making comparisons to a platform (PC) that can play a game with better visuals at medium settings with a budget CPU and a budget HD4670 or 9600GT than a 5 year old console is not good publicity.
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November 29, 2010 10:21:52 PM

The real reason behind piracy... games for console cost 40-50 dollars and consoles are not that expensive. On the other hand a descent PC cost's atleast 1k. I would say that if a game is 50 dollars for console, it should be 25 dollars for PC!!! This should be better for games as well as developers.
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November 29, 2010 10:23:24 PM

"We seem to lead the charts in piracy by a large margin"
People don't actually want to play the game, they just want to benchmark their brand new shiny computers. Would you pay full game price for a benchmark?
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November 29, 2010 10:25:21 PM

Its really not that difficult to pirate a game for 360, ps3, wii etc. However there's still a vicious cycle of PC piracy: devs make crappy games, customers become motivated to pirate, less money for devs, rinse and repeat. This means i won't have an excuse to upgrade my rig to play the latest game for a very long time (3 yrs so far)
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November 29, 2010 10:30:31 PM

It's not all bad though. I CAN'T play on Xbox Live because of the skill-less children who are either really clueless and a detriment to team based play, or are so bad that competitive play becomes boring. The shit talking and immaturity on the Mic is also an epidemic that I would prefer to avoid.

The simple truth is that the PC lacks many of these players simply because of the price of admission. I don't have anything against children playing video games, but I have to admit that most M rated titles and competitive multiplayer titles tend to suffer because of their presence. Its one of the many reasons that I wish there was a ladder type setup in all competitive multiplayer games. That way, for example, the extremely good CoD players can play with others of their skill level, and the ones who just like to pick up the game every once and awhile can play with others like them.

As for the title quality on the PC. There are very few games that are worse on the PC than the consoles, but the degree should be much greater, but I don't blame this on piracy all that much. I blame this on the adolescent gaming audience. Right now, most of the hardcore PC gamers are the original gamers, who were far fewer when they where children than the children gamers of today. In time I believe the more hardcore and older audience will expand and PC gaming will surge forth a bit more since the larger the audience, the larger the profits. Maybe I'm just hoping here though.
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November 29, 2010 10:33:05 PM

adamboy64In terms of graphics, sure. PC Hardware is updated more often than consoles.

In terms of everything. Graphics, i/o choices, scalability, multitasking, and experience control. Comcast doesn't drop kick my PC off the net if I'm running FW on my DVD drive it doesn't like.

You can buy a Boxter and think it's great, but it'll never be a 911, let alone a GT.
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November 29, 2010 10:34:40 PM

haze4peace"We seem to lead the charts in piracy by a large margin"People don't actually want to play the game, they just want to benchmark their brand new shiny computers. Would you pay full game price for a benchmark?


If you can't afford to buy a $50-$60 dollar PC game, then you certainly shouldn't be able to afford a rig thats worth benchmarking. End of story.

Besides that, there is plenty of free benchmarking software available, no need to pirate a game for the lame reason of "benchmarking", let alone any reason.

Buy the FU**ING game if you want PC gaming to have a future.
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November 29, 2010 10:35:45 PM

Crytek, but more importantly EA and other publishers, should be aware that selling games for $60 is not viable in the long-term. The best way of sidestepping the piracy issue would be to use Steam which makes piracy a lot more difficult, as well as promoting lower (and fairer) prices.
I agree that it would be a real shame to see Crytek go from leading the PC graphics frontier, to simply port console games.
I also think it is unfair that PCs be treated as the ugly duckling of this console generation. Unfortunately, until it makes economic sense to do otherwise, why would you?
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November 29, 2010 10:40:03 PM

First, the PC is more than "a whole generation" ahead of the XBOX and PS3. Its more like 3 or 4 generations ahead.

Secondly, if the game is a quality game, people will rush out and buy, i.e.Starcraft II, Civ V, etc.

I see one of the biggest issues on the PC is World of Warcraft. It has cannibalized so many other games sales, that someone or something needs to kill this game.

Sure, there are always going to be those that pirate. But then there are always going to be people willing to pay for the hard work put in. If the game is good, it will sell. Period.
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November 29, 2010 10:40:26 PM

Nothing new here, ALSO xbox360 and the PS3 were made with technologies that were used by PCs in 2005-2006... one might think that current PCs are 4 generations ahead.
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November 29, 2010 10:40:31 PM

fonzyProve it then Crytek!...seriously when are we going to see another game that will push the graphics envelope for the PC?The PC community is getting sick of ports.


Again thank piracy for ported games... :-P When it is all said and done it is all about the money! And currently PC gaming is NOT where the money is. I am hoping that changes!
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November 29, 2010 10:40:50 PM

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"We seem to lead the charts in piracy by a large margin, a chart leading that is not desirable. I believe that's the core problem of PC Gaming, piracy. To the degree PC gamers that pirate games inherently destroy the platform. Similar games on consoles sell factors of 4-5 more. It was a big lesson for us and I believe we won't have PC exclusives as we did with Crysis in future. We are going to support PC, but not exclusive anymore.”


What charts? Proof, please?!
Simply comparing sales numbers doesn't capture the full picture. You should compare sales numbers relative to the marketshare of the platform. You're going to sell more games on the consoles because they're more popular; that doesn't mean that piracy is necessarily making you sell 4-5 times fewer copies on PCs.
BS stats, BS reasoning, all lines up to what will be just another console port.
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November 29, 2010 10:42:52 PM

To elaborate even further on my previous point...this applies to both consoles and PC's.

WHY EVEN BUY A GAMING SYSTEM, IF YOU CAN NOT AFFORD TO BUY THE GAMES???

That's like buying a 10 cylinder Dodge Ram truck, and then crying about how much gas you have to buy because you only get 8 miles per gallon.

If you don't have enough money to afford the occasional $50-60 game, then you should not be investing in a gaming system in the first place.
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November 29, 2010 10:45:12 PM

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You can buy a Boxter and think it's great, but it'll never be a 911, let alone a GT.


Actually most rags rate the Boxster as more enjoyable and a better driving experience than the 911. It's mid-engined and better balanced, as compared to the polish a turd rear-engine design of the 911.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q4/2011_10best_c...

But other than that yes, your post is spot on, everything about a modern PC is superior to console hardware. :) 
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November 29, 2010 10:45:53 PM

umm, seriously? PC is probably a good 2 generations ahead, and for a few simple reasons im sure there are more.

1. Graphics already looks a hell'ava lot better on PC.

2. I doubt any PS3 or Xbox360 game has ever even hit 720p, try to set your TV to a 1:1 ratio, and see what you get, you'll understand then that this is the only way they can get graphics as good as they have on a system that runs essentially a Radeon X1900 (Source: Wikipedia - The Xenos is a custom graphics processing unit (GPU) designed by ATI, used in the Xbox 360 video game console. Developed under the codename "C1,"[1] it is in many ways related to the R500 desktop PC graphics card series and therefore very similar to an ATI Radeon X1900 PC graphics card as far as features and performance are concerned.) most games are upscaled to 720p or 1080p, which in my opinion looks nothing like true 1080p.

so actually, how many generations is the PC ahead exactly? 4?
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November 29, 2010 10:48:30 PM

ultamecaI also agree that cost is an issue...when crysis came out only rich people could enjoy it and we are just getting to full playability with what.. the next generation of GFX cards to come out in 2011...sure you can take 3 gfx cards and crossfire/sli but people like me can't afford to buy even one high end card.you can't release a game that only 5% or less of the community can afford to play and expect it to do well, that's just insane...I don't even think you could max it out back then with those older cards and nvidia was charging over 500 bucks if I remember per card... ouch...

You could not be more wrong. The only thing that consoles have over even low end gaming PCs is great marketing from MS and Sony.
In order to get the graphics details you would in a game on a console you don't need a high end PC. Yes, a console is 200$ compared to a PC for 400$ that will give you the same FPS at medium settings(those are comparable to consoles) but when you consider the fact that you will constantly pay 20-30 $ more on each and every game you buy for a console and the fact that that thing is JUST a console then a PC might be better. THe only thing that was standing out in the past was the Blu-ray player in the PS3. But now BR players are cheap.

Also about piracy... everybody seems to forget that the 360 has been cracked such a long time ago, and if you look on torrent sites they are full of xbox360 games, with thousands of seeders. MS should have done a better job at protecting their console.
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November 29, 2010 10:49:22 PM

Most of what he said is common sense, hearing it from him doesn't make it any different.

Probably the reason Crysis is pirated so much is because of SecuROM. As with Assassin's Creed 2 with their DRM. All of these anti-piracy measures give people more of an incentive to get pirated copies.
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November 29, 2010 10:54:19 PM

TemjinGoldSo wait, he's complaining that because graphics has hit a wall, developers might actually have to make games that aren't just pretty?


Don't rate him down, he is right. Crysis is not famous because a complex plot or a innovative gameplay.
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November 29, 2010 10:56:10 PM

Haserath*sigh* If only you could buy a gaming PC for $199, the market wouldn't be so small since many of the gamers are below 18(thus very little money) or won't justify $600+ for gaming when the comp will become worthless in a few years. Instead we have Intel gouging prices along with Windows 7. At least we have AMD for cheaper processors, but there isn't a free OS that will provide a good gaming experience.

Sounds like this person wants everything given to him....someone please explain to this person how the economy works.
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November 29, 2010 10:58:49 PM

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Uhm I would say several generations as I upgrade every year but can afford to its a hobby to me. Its how it is with consoles, any Joe can go pick up a $199 console and a $60 game and play but not everyone can lay down $1000k plus or in my case $3000k for hardware capable of playing at high resolutions suck as 2560 x 1600 like me. I demand the best and buy it. Its, surprising to me the amount of people I play online with think that older guys plays these games too we just have better hardware is all. I'm 41 and will play these games until I'm gone, its fun to see a build come together and the end result of it. For me its awesome to be able to boot up in 12 seconds, first one loaded into the game with SSD drives yes I have 2 one for OS one for games and a terabyte backup. Quad core @4ghz there is nothing else that comes close to playing with maxed out specs gaming at its best imo!



umm, if you are spending 1-3 million on PC's alone share some with the rest of us please.
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November 29, 2010 11:15:29 PM

It is sad to see a once industry leading PC game developer say that they are going along with the sheep heard of other developers, dropping the PC gamers that made them on what they are to the curb and going after the money pile that sub-18yr old kids parents/family drop on their weak, low-Q GFX, and iffy controls, consoles and games.

I lost who said this above, but why the heck aren't games coded for PC's them dumbed down for the lame consoles? Instead PC gamers get the poop covered end of the stick.

How come everyone is so fast to forget how much these consoles cost when they came out? Sure they may be more affordable now but add a small collection of games, online play, a couple controllers, and any other accessory and your talking the price of a quite a nice PC, and those are at todays prices not release day. And those prices are so nice because in a few years time your pretty consoles are going to be obsolete and replaced with another $600 brick that if your lucky will play all those $60 games you had your parents buy you, but don't count on it, anyone trying to say consoles are a cheaper route really have lost sight of the marketing departments well thought out plans for you.
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November 29, 2010 11:30:31 PM

terror112Maybe if the game was worth spending $60 on....

When The original Crysis came out for PC, they were only asking $40 brand new from the start. IF a company releases a PC exclusive for two thirds the price of a console game, and it still leads the pirating charts, than i don't believe Pirates can pull the whole price inflation card anymore...
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November 29, 2010 11:30:33 PM

I'm guess we will have to wait a couple more years for the PS4/Xbox720 to see what todays PC's can do now.
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November 29, 2010 11:32:08 PM

thechief73
How come everyone is so fast to forget how much these consoles cost when they came out? Sure they may be more affordable now but add a small collection of games, online play, a couple controllers, and any other accessory and your talking the price of a quite a nice PC, and those are at todays prices not release day. And those prices are so nice because in a few years time your pretty consoles are going to be obsolete and replaced with another $600 brick that if your lucky will play all those $60 games you had your parents buy you, but don't count on it, anyone trying to say consoles are a cheaper route really have lost sight of the marketing departments well thought out plans for you.


Completely agree!, and I would even add something else: when the new console comes out, there is absolutely no guarantee you can play the previous generation games on it! You have to pray your old console lasts for as long as you want to play them. If it breaks you're left to spending more money on a repair, or a new or second-hand one.

With a PC, even if it's incompatible with a new OS, you can always 1. run the older OS alongside the new OS; 2. always have access to the game files and a whole community eager to fix them for compatibility or writing an emulator for it. You can't do that on a console.

In fact, this is so blatantly true, that whatever games you have for the gameboy, game gear or other ancient gaming machines, like I do, the only way to get to play those classic (I own the cartridges, but the hardware stopped working properly a long time ago) is to get the ROM's and play them through an emulator...on a PC!
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November 29, 2010 11:37:36 PM

id say most of the people who pirated Crysis, did so just to see if their PC could run it, not to actually play the game. Ill probably give it a look now that you can get crysis, crysis warhead, and the expansion in 1 pack for like $30AU. But when it first came out people were lucky if they could even run it, so who was going to buy it except the few people with SLI, OC'd top end PC's which STILL couldnt run it maxed out?
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November 29, 2010 11:40:59 PM

My PC already has grandkids, that's how far ahead it is.
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November 29, 2010 11:44:14 PM

There are so many points to make I don't have time to think. Yes people pirate games but also for every system because it's easy and it's cheaper. Also, for a game to make money, it has to be well made. No one is going to go out and buy a crappy game for $60, but for something like Starcraft II or Diablo III, people will all buy it because they are huge franchises that have enormous reputations for being some of the best games. For example, I ended up buying Oblivion and all expansions 3 times since I kept losing the discs. There is one reason to crack/pirate your games but I didn't because it was such a good game. For Elder Scrolls 5, I will not even think about pirating because it's a fantastic franchise. As for ports, yes they are annoying such as the Force Unleashed Series cuz they are not optimized for PC at all. If you want to make money, make a good game only then will we make you filthy rich :D 
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November 29, 2010 11:44:49 PM

simple11As far as I am concerned, PS3 can't play hacked/ripped games.


What?
ps3-hacks.com
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November 29, 2010 11:49:25 PM

first of all... NO SHIT!

secondly:

"Although the PC is a generation ahead of the consoles, multi-platform games will suffer limitations on the PC due to console hardware restraints."

only poorly coded multi-platform games... which is sadly, most of them.
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November 29, 2010 11:52:27 PM

iam2thecroweBut when it first came out people were lucky if they could even run it, so who was going to buy it except the few people with SLI, OC'd top end PC's which STILL couldnt run it maxed out?


That is not entirely correct. Most people could run the game, and it benefited a lot from 2GB of RAM. I had a Pentium 4 at 3Ghz, 1GB ram DDR 400 Mhz and a Geforce 7600GS, and it could run it at low settings. But afterwards, I upgraded to an AsRock motherboard that could run AGP and DDR or DDR2 + Conroe Chips and got a second hand and very cheap Pentium Dual Core E2140 1.6Ghz and 2GB DDR2 533 and the very same Geforce 7600GS, and it could now run on medium. And lets not foget this:

- Crysis was released on November 13, 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crysis)
A dual core processor was available since late 2005, and the 7600GS was a low midrange GPU from 2006!

- let's not also forget that the more affordable 8800GT was launched BEFORE Crysis - October 29, 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_8_Series) - it initially cost less than half of an 8800GTX, but because demand was so high, prices wnet up in the following months. But still, that's because it was VERY popular. Heck, it still is! I just sold mine less than a month ago to buy a new HD6850 (twice the performance)
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November 30, 2010 12:37:12 AM

Soldier37Uhm I would say several generations as I upgrade every year but can afford to its a hobby to me. Its how it is with consoles, any Joe can go pick up a $199 console and a $60 game and play but not everyone can lay down $1000k plus or in my case $3000k for hardware capable of playing at high resolutions suck as 2560 x 1600 like me. I demand the best and buy it. Its, surprising to me the amount of people I play online with think that older guys plays these games too we just have better hardware is all. I'm 41 and will play these games until I'm gone, its fun to see a build come together and the end result of it. For me its awesome to be able to boot up in 12 seconds, first one loaded into the game with SSD drives yes I have 2 one for OS one for games and a terabyte backup. Quad core @4ghz there is nothing else that comes close to playing with maxed out specs gaming at its best imo!


Since you were so quick to share your specs,all that hardware means nothing if games are not being made to exploit it to the fullest. I just like you and others this is the hobby we enjoy but you have to ask yourself, when enough is enough? People really need to get a grip on things and look at it for what it is. There is no games that will make your system struggle because 90% of them are console ports. There has been countless games that have been released over this last year and the only game that has even made my system break a sweat is Metro 2033. So most of us just find that were spending all kinds of money on graphic card upgrades and there is no game that will even use it. With Nvidia getting 90% scaling in sli and AMD getting that with thier new 6000 series, there is no need to waste money on this huge sli/crossfire setup to run a modern game at highest settings and get damn near 60fps doing it.

I will never do an upgrade just to play one game but that seems to be the case nowdays because there is about 1-2 games a year that will maybe make your system gallop rather than speedwalk.

When the next systems come out then we will see the gap tighten but this is the way its going to be from here on out.
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November 30, 2010 12:38:04 AM

just wait until blu-ray becomes the standard distribution method for PC games. ooo boy. either that or digital distribution (provided hard drive space becomes pretty inexpensive)
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November 30, 2010 12:39:54 AM

I'm losing faith in you Crytek. I've already lost faith in DICE and Blizzard, I'm not quite sure who I should trust anymore in the world of PC gaming.
ultamecaI also agree that cost is an issue...when crysis came out only rich people could enjoy it and we are just getting to full playability with what.. the next generation of GFX cards to come out in 2011...sure you can take 3 gfx cards and crossfire/sli but people like me can't afford to buy even one high end card.you can't release a game that only 5% or less of the community can afford to play and expect it to do well, that's just insane...I don't even think you could max it out back then with those older cards and nvidia was charging over 500 bucks if I remember per card... ouch...

Rich people? Hardly.
Many people simply invest heavily into their hobbies. You can spend 20% of your income on nice clothes and a new car, I will stick to my gaming. For some, it simply makes sense to put a lot of money down if they expect to spend a few hours every day. I don't have much money, but I don't regret a cent.
amk09To elaborate even further on my previous point...this applies to both consoles and PC's.WHY EVEN BUY A GAMING SYSTEM, IF YOU CAN NOT AFFORD TO BUY THE GAMES??? That's like buying a 10 cylinder Dodge Ram truck, and then crying about how much gas you have to buy because you only get 8 miles per gallon.If you don't have enough money to afford the occasional $50-60 game, then you should not be investing in a gaming system in the first place.

Or you should just buy cheaper games. Steam anyone? Just because a game is a year or two old doesn't mean it isn't fun.

I've spent over $2000 on my gaming PC, I expect a better experience.
Should I honestly expect the exact same graphics, just with 16xAA? Oh wait, we sometimes have to hack for anti aliasing, widescreen, custom resolutions, and multimonitor. It's a headache.
I shouldn't have had to go looking for a texture pack hours after I grabbed Fallout: New Vegas. Brand new game. Even with it, still a smooth 60 FPS.
The only thing I have straining my rig right now is PCSX2. It's a PS2 emulator. Yeah, Crysis and Fallout at max? No problem. PS2 games? Bring it on!
AMW1011It's not all bad though. I CAN'T play on Xbox Live because of the skill-less children who are either really clueless and a detriment to team based play, or are so bad that competitive play becomes boring. The *** talking and immaturity on the Mic is also an epidemic that I would prefer to avoid.The simple truth is that the PC lacks many of these players simply because of the price of admission. I don't have anything against children playing video games, but I have to admit that most M rated titles and competitive multiplayer titles tend to suffer because of their presence. Its one of the many reasons that I wish there was a ladder type setup in all competitive multiplayer games. That way, for example, the extremely good CoD players can play with others of their skill level, and the ones who just like to pick up the game every once and awhile can play with others like them.As for the title quality on the PC. There are very few games that are worse on the PC than the consoles, but the degree should be much greater, but I don't blame this on piracy all that much. I blame this on the adolescent gaming audience. Right now, most of the hardcore PC gamers are the original gamers, who were far fewer when they where children than the children gamers of today. In time I believe the more hardcore and older audience will expand and PC gaming will surge forth a bit more since the larger the audience, the larger the profits. Maybe I'm just hoping here though.

I'm hoping too. Nothing is more painful than hearing some kid whose voice is yet to crack screaming in the microphone. Clean, fair, and competitive please. We're here to have fun, not because you have angst. I grew up gaming with people thrice my age, and I much prefer playing with men over boys.
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November 30, 2010 12:39:58 AM

First off I always buy my PC games. Have much respect for the designers and developers.

Second off, why don't they enable tessellation for games? If your hardware is good enough to run at 20 million polygons per frame instead of 10, then let's have it. The only real fuel for the PC industry is to make a game scalable in graphics so much so that even Quad fire SLI hexatuplet GPU B.S. systems out there can't even play it. Then it becomes a true challenge and extremely fun as well. This will gas up the industry so much that consoles will be back where they were in the 80's - GARBAGE.
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November 30, 2010 12:57:46 AM

So many people say that they're willing to buy a game that's worth the money, but somehow a game like crysis is one of the most pirated games.

Live up to your word, pirates, you're slowly killing our industry.
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November 30, 2010 1:13:52 AM

Developers like console games more than PC games for 2 reasons:
1) Huge install base
2) Standardized hardware (no need to test on thousands of various pc hardware and software configurations)

I don't buy the piracy thing. That is just an easy excuse for them so that they don't have to admit the 2 reasons I named.
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November 30, 2010 1:19:03 AM

tykelCrytek, but more importantly EA and other publishers, should be aware that selling games for $60 is not viable in the long-term. The best way of sidestepping the piracy issue would be to use Steam which makes piracy a lot more difficult, as well as promoting lower (and fairer) prices.I agree that it would be a real shame to see Crytek go from leading the PC graphics frontier, to simply port console games.I also think it is unfair that PCs be treated as the ugly duckling of this console generation. Unfortunately, until it makes economic sense to do otherwise, why would you?

I think crysis 2 will be avalable on steam. recently EAs titles have been on steam (Bc2).
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November 30, 2010 1:22:02 AM

Yeah they're on steam, at the same high price.
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