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6870 - 6750oc - GTX460oc (Heavy Multiplayer battlefield 3)

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February 12, 2012 9:32:14 AM

I'm trying to decide between the Radeon HD 6870, 6850 and Nvidia GTX 460oc.
The obvious answer is "get the 6870" but for the same price I can get an overclocked
6850 or 460, both would come with two fans great Video card fans. - GIGABYTE Ultra Durable VGA Series GV-R685OC-1GD Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity - GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI V3 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

*** So I ask myself, When are you playing 30-40 player multiplayer maps, its probably your CPU that lags first. so as long as my CPU isnt the problem, I wonder if one of these lesser cards would hold up well enough to not drop me below 40 fps.
(As long as I dont Max every single graphical option, without AA - SSAO)

Does anyone think these two lesser cards would hold up to 40-50 fps under heavy multiplayer as long as the CPU is up to par? I know they can run these framerates during easy multiplayer.

I don't overclock my stuff, because I don't want to run it hot. (Sometimes my house is hot enough), I don't want to risk blowing my hardware. Its not excessively hot, although sometimes the summers are a @#$.

I want the highest constant framerate I can get out of 30-40-50 player multiplayer Battlefield 3. I do not mind lowering the graphical options just below Ultra. I want them to stay very high, but I dont mind losing SSAO - AA - Ultra type options.

Should I forget about the two fans? because the 6870 without overclock is plenty safe. Or should I go with one of the lower cards with the two great fans?

If I knew I wouldnt drop below 40 FPS under heavy fire (without max max ultra settings), I would just settle for the 460.

I'm not sure which is more powerful, the 460 or the 6850. Ive read tons of reviews and Overclock and benchmark reviews. with tons of mixed results.

Anyone here run battlefield 3 on heavy multiplayer maps alot ? with any of these cards? Have an opinion about its performance on these cards? (If your CPU is lower than x4 975 - ie2120, that would probably be your problem).


Anyone have any opinions?
February 12, 2012 9:32:56 AM

Then I ask myself.. Should I drop 20 dollars from the Video card and get a stronger CPU,
or should I drop 20 dollars from the CPU and get the next upgrade Video card.

What do you guys think would provide the highest constant frames per second

***** Under heavy multiplayer maps with 30 players ******

Should I just stick with the AMD x4 975 - 6870? I guess that would be the safest bet.
But I sure would love to have one of those cards with the two fans (I dont know why X_X, sure seems odd).

Both the x4 975 CPU and 6870 cost 150.
I could drop 20 from the Video card and get a GTX 460oc and add it to the CPU upgrade.
Or the other way around and get a 560 GTX. X_x.

What should I do ?
if I specifically want "highest stable framerate while under Heavy multiplayer specifically" ?
Im sure any of these hardware would do fine under standard gameplay.
Its the larger multiplayer I would like to enjoy also
a b U Graphics card
February 12, 2012 9:54:16 AM

specs please.

multiplayer does hit both cpu and gpu hard. my gtx470 and a Q9550 will happily run 45fps at 2048x1152 on 64player maps that are fully occupied, on an 'empty' server i'll get maybe 55fps? On full server my cpu is locked at 100% vs 95% for an empty one.

not sure if that helps .
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a b U Graphics card
February 12, 2012 9:56:04 AM

the dual fan cards tend to pump the heat back into the case, whilst the reference cards pump it out of the case, the latter is preferable even if it makes the card hotter.
February 12, 2012 10:42:17 PM

I would think the 256 bit would be an advantage for complex video, which would incline me toward the 6850/6870. Tom's just did an article calling the 460 192 bit 1 gb card a poor deal for the price.

Basically the best performance/dollar depends on what is on sale at any given time.
I would probably spend more for the card and overclock your CPU, the 960T at $110 is a better choice I think, 95 watt TDI and a good overclocker. It might unlock to 5 or 6 cores, too, which could help.
The 975 is a factory overclocked 955 in all respects, admittedly the 955 is getting much more difficult to find.
February 12, 2012 10:51:47 PM

For BF3 specifically do not drop 20 dollars from your gpu budget to finance a better CPU. BF3 is heavily gpu-bound.
February 13, 2012 4:49:19 AM

thanks. I had noticed the 192bit downgrade and wondered about that also Waltern, and casualcolors thanks, good to hear. I just want to want to make sure its not my CPU bottlenecking this time around, because i dont mind lower shadows or AA and SSAO type options, I just hate it when I get lags due to playercount.
a b U Graphics card
February 13, 2012 6:09:16 AM

doesnt matter which card you get from that list they will all manage 30 fps @1080p on high settings... if you go to ultra your gonna quickly find your down to 25fps on maps like karkland...
read em and ... well you know the drill...
February 13, 2012 1:15:42 PM

6870 > 460 = 6850
February 13, 2012 2:29:28 PM

Look at Tom's February Video Card recommendations, then price shop for you trusted brands.
newegg, and Amazon for reference, then search engines.
February 13, 2012 6:10:42 PM

HEXiT said:
doesnt matter which card you get from that list they will all manage 30 fps @1080p on high settings... if you go to ultra your gonna quickly find your down to 25fps on maps like karkland...
read em and ... well you know the drill...

Yeap, I have 2 5870's and if I run Ultra @ 1080, I get down in the 30-40's on Karkand Maps with 64 players and smoke. So 1 of the those cards is gonna really hurt on Ultra, you will definitely have to lower your settings probably med/high. Good thing that the game still look really good on those settings.
a b U Graphics card
February 13, 2012 6:22:19 PM

+1 ^ it still looks good.