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Is it possible to schedule a backup of a XP Pro machine to run while no user
is logged on using the backup wizard?

I have been trying to run backups in the wee hours of the morning while the
computer is not being used. When I created the backup and scheduled it, it
asked for a username and password twice so I assumed that it should work.
However, if I look at the reports it shows that no files were copied. Also,
if I take a look into the backup file, I can see that it copied all of
folders but not the files. So it runs, copies file but not the folders and
saves the backup file to the drive. Seems odd to me. Another wierd thing
is
that it will actually pick up other backup files during the scheduled backup
and add them to the file, howver, they will be the only files in the backup.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Derek
 
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You must supply a valid username and password.
A password must be assigned to the User, i.e. you cannot
use a User that is not password protected. This is because
the job is scheduled independent of the logged on User,
and indeed no User need be logged on at the time
(Backup will run in the background).

To schedule a backup
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntbackup_schedule_backup.mspx

Scheduled Tasks Cannot Run with a Blank Password
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310715

Visit http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_s.htm and scroll down to:
"Scheduled Tasks - Applying/Running tasks without a password­"

[Courtesy of Kelly Theriot, MS-MVP]

HOW TO: Troubleshoot Scheduled Tasks in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308558

HOW TO: Schedule Tasks in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308569

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx

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"Derek Lamparty" wrote:

| Is it possible to schedule a backup of a XP Pro machine to run while no user
| is logged on using the backup wizard?
|
| I have been trying to run backups in the wee hours of the morning while the
| computer is not being used. When I created the backup and scheduled it, it
| asked for a username and password twice so I assumed that it should work.
| However, if I look at the reports it shows that no files were copied. Also,
| if I take a look into the backup file, I can see that it copied all of
| folders but not the files. So it runs, copies file but not the folders and
| saves the backup file to the drive. Seems odd to me. Another wierd thing
| is
| that it will actually pick up other backup files during the scheduled backup
| and add them to the file, howver, they will be the only files in the backup.
|
| Any thoughts?
|
| Thanks,
|
| Derek
 
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Thanks for the reply. So it should be possible. I have been trying this.
I have been using valid usernames and passwords. The scheduled backup runs
as scheduled, however, when I look at the file all the folders are empty (No
entries found). The report also verifies that no files were backed up. It
works fine if I schedule it to run while I am logged into the machine, if I
schedule it to run on start up or at log on, however, not while I am not
logged in.

Could it be how I am entering the username? When I schedule the back up it
supplies the username for me and I leave it alone. The format is
"computername\username". Should I simply be using the username? I am a bit
perplexed.

Thanks for any input.

Derek


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:uQOHqwKjFHA.3336@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> You must supply a valid username and password.
> A password must be assigned to the User, i.e. you cannot
> use a User that is not password protected. This is because
> the job is scheduled independent of the logged on User,
> and indeed no User need be logged on at the time
> (Backup will run in the background).
>
> To schedule a backup
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntbackup_schedule_backup.mspx
>
> Scheduled Tasks Cannot Run with a Blank Password
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310715
>
> Visit http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_s.htm and scroll down to:
> "Scheduled Tasks - Applying/Running tasks without a password­"
>
> [Courtesy of Kelly Theriot, MS-MVP]
>
> HOW TO: Troubleshoot Scheduled Tasks in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308558
>
> HOW TO: Schedule Tasks in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308569
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
> Microsoft Newsgroups
>
> Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Derek Lamparty" wrote:
>
> | Is it possible to schedule a backup of a XP Pro machine to run while no
> user
> | is logged on using the backup wizard?
> |
> | I have been trying to run backups in the wee hours of the morning while
> the
> | computer is not being used. When I created the backup and scheduled it,
> it
> | asked for a username and password twice so I assumed that it should
> work.
> | However, if I look at the reports it shows that no files were copied.
> Also,
> | if I take a look into the backup file, I can see that it copied all of
> | folders but not the files. So it runs, copies file but not the folders
> and
> | saves the backup file to the drive. Seems odd to me. Another wierd
> thing
> | is
> | that it will actually pick up other backup files during the scheduled
> backup
> | and add them to the file, howver, they will be the only files in the
> backup.
> |
> | Any thoughts?
> |
> | Thanks,
> |
> | Derek
>
 
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Do you have files selected in the backup?
"Derek Lamparty" <dlamparty@mntla.com> wrote in message
news:uSGX$7LjFHA.3784@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the reply. So it should be possible. I have been trying this.
> I have been using valid usernames and passwords. The scheduled backup runs
> as scheduled, however, when I look at the file all the folders are empty
(No
> entries found). The report also verifies that no files were backed up.
It
> works fine if I schedule it to run while I am logged into the machine, if
I
> schedule it to run on start up or at log on, however, not while I am not
> logged in.
>
> Could it be how I am entering the username? When I schedule the back up
it
> supplies the username for me and I leave it alone. The format is
> "computername\username". Should I simply be using the username? I am a
bit
> perplexed.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Derek
>
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uQOHqwKjFHA.3336@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > You must supply a valid username and password.
> > A password must be assigned to the User, i.e. you cannot
> > use a User that is not password protected. This is because
> > the job is scheduled independent of the logged on User,
> > and indeed no User need be logged on at the time
> > (Backup will run in the background).
> >
> > To schedule a backup
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntbackup_schedule_backup.mspx
> >
> > Scheduled Tasks Cannot Run with a Blank Password
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310715
> >
> > Visit http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_s.htm and scroll down to:
> > "Scheduled Tasks - Applying/Running tasks without a password­"
> >
> > [Courtesy of Kelly Theriot, MS-MVP]
> >
> > HOW TO: Troubleshoot Scheduled Tasks in Windows XP
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308558
> >
> > HOW TO: Schedule Tasks in Windows XP
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308569
> >
> > --
> > Carey Frisch
> > Microsoft MVP
> > Windows XP - Shell/User
> > Microsoft Newsgroups
> >
> > Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------
> >
> > "Derek Lamparty" wrote:
> >
> > | Is it possible to schedule a backup of a XP Pro machine to run while
no
> > user
> > | is logged on using the backup wizard?
> > |
> > | I have been trying to run backups in the wee hours of the morning
while
> > the
> > | computer is not being used. When I created the backup and scheduled
it,
> > it
> > | asked for a username and password twice so I assumed that it should
> > work.
> > | However, if I look at the reports it shows that no files were copied.
> > Also,
> > | if I take a look into the backup file, I can see that it copied all of
> > | folders but not the files. So it runs, copies file but not the
folders
> > and
> > | saves the backup file to the drive. Seems odd to me. Another wierd
> > thing
> > | is
> > | that it will actually pick up other backup files during the scheduled
> > backup
> > | and add them to the file, howver, they will be the only files in the
> > backup.
> > |
> > | Any thoughts?
> > |
> > | Thanks,
> > |
> > | Derek
> >
>
>
 
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Sorry.... I realized the error of my ways. I had selected incremental
backup and to replace the old backup which was being saved to a network
drive. So.... no new files were added and it overwrote the other file that
contained the data.

Thanks for the help.

Derek

"mgm" <mgmombo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eQPKR5MjFHA.3064@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Do you have files selected in the backup?
> "Derek Lamparty" <dlamparty@mntla.com> wrote in message
> news:uSGX$7LjFHA.3784@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for the reply. So it should be possible. I have been trying
>> this.
>> I have been using valid usernames and passwords. The scheduled backup
>> runs
>> as scheduled, however, when I look at the file all the folders are empty
> (No
>> entries found). The report also verifies that no files were backed up.
> It
>> works fine if I schedule it to run while I am logged into the machine, if
> I
>> schedule it to run on start up or at log on, however, not while I am not
>> logged in.
>>
>> Could it be how I am entering the username? When I schedule the back up
> it
>> supplies the username for me and I leave it alone. The format is
>> "computername\username". Should I simply be using the username? I am a
> bit
>> perplexed.
>>
>> Thanks for any input.
>>
>> Derek
>>
>>
>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uQOHqwKjFHA.3336@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > You must supply a valid username and password.
>> > A password must be assigned to the User, i.e. you cannot
>> > use a User that is not password protected. This is because
>> > the job is scheduled independent of the logged on User,
>> > and indeed no User need be logged on at the time
>> > (Backup will run in the background).
>> >
>> > To schedule a backup
>> >
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntbackup_schedule_backup.mspx
>> >
>> > Scheduled Tasks Cannot Run with a Blank Password
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310715
>> >
>> > Visit http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_s.htm and scroll down to:
>> > "Scheduled Tasks - Applying/Running tasks without a password­"
>> >
>> > [Courtesy of Kelly Theriot, MS-MVP]
>> >
>> > HOW TO: Troubleshoot Scheduled Tasks in Windows XP
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308558
>> >
>> > HOW TO: Schedule Tasks in Windows XP
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308569
>> >
>> > --
>> > Carey Frisch
>> > Microsoft MVP
>> > Windows XP - Shell/User
>> > Microsoft Newsgroups
>> >
>> > Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx
>> >
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------
>> >
>> > "Derek Lamparty" wrote:
>> >
>> > | Is it possible to schedule a backup of a XP Pro machine to run while
> no
>> > user
>> > | is logged on using the backup wizard?
>> > |
>> > | I have been trying to run backups in the wee hours of the morning
> while
>> > the
>> > | computer is not being used. When I created the backup and scheduled
> it,
>> > it
>> > | asked for a username and password twice so I assumed that it should
>> > work.
>> > | However, if I look at the reports it shows that no files were copied.
>> > Also,
>> > | if I take a look into the backup file, I can see that it copied all
>> > of
>> > | folders but not the files. So it runs, copies file but not the
> folders
>> > and
>> > | saves the backup file to the drive. Seems odd to me. Another wierd
>> > thing
>> > | is
>> > | that it will actually pick up other backup files during the scheduled
>> > backup
>> > | and add them to the file, howver, they will be the only files in the
>> > backup.
>> > |
>> > | Any thoughts?
>> > |
>> > | Thanks,
>> > |
>> > | Derek
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
 
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Derek..I suspected the problem because I made the same oops myself :)
"Derek Lamparty" <dlamparty@mntla.com> wrote in message
news:uVKQKnVjFHA.2852@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Sorry.... I realized the error of my ways. I had selected incremental
> backup and to replace the old backup which was being saved to a network
> drive. So.... no new files were added and it overwrote the other file
that
> contained the data.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Derek
>
> "mgm" <mgmombo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eQPKR5MjFHA.3064@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Do you have files selected in the backup?
> > "Derek Lamparty" <dlamparty@mntla.com> wrote in message
> > news:uSGX$7LjFHA.3784@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> Thanks for the reply. So it should be possible. I have been trying
> >> this.
> >> I have been using valid usernames and passwords. The scheduled backup
> >> runs
> >> as scheduled, however, when I look at the file all the folders are
empty
> > (No
> >> entries found). The report also verifies that no files were backed up.
> > It
> >> works fine if I schedule it to run while I am logged into the machine,
if
> > I
> >> schedule it to run on start up or at log on, however, not while I am
not
> >> logged in.
> >>
> >> Could it be how I am entering the username? When I schedule the back
up
> > it
> >> supplies the username for me and I leave it alone. The format is
> >> "computername\username". Should I simply be using the username? I am
a
> > bit
> >> perplexed.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any input.
> >>
> >> Derek
> >>
> >>
> >> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:uQOHqwKjFHA.3336@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> > You must supply a valid username and password.
> >> > A password must be assigned to the User, i.e. you cannot
> >> > use a User that is not password protected. This is because
> >> > the job is scheduled independent of the logged on User,
> >> > and indeed no User need be logged on at the time
> >> > (Backup will run in the background).
> >> >
> >> > To schedule a backup
> >> >
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntbackup_schedule_backup.mspx
> >> >
> >> > Scheduled Tasks Cannot Run with a Blank Password
> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310715
> >> >
> >> > Visit http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_s.htm and scroll down to:
> >> > "Scheduled Tasks - Applying/Running tasks without a password­"
> >> >
> >> > [Courtesy of Kelly Theriot, MS-MVP]
> >> >
> >> > HOW TO: Troubleshoot Scheduled Tasks in Windows XP
> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308558
> >> >
> >> > HOW TO: Schedule Tasks in Windows XP
> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308569
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Carey Frisch
> >> > Microsoft MVP
> >> > Windows XP - Shell/User
> >> > Microsoft Newsgroups
> >> >
> >> > Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
> >> >
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx
> >> >
> >>
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> > -----------------
> >> >
> >> > "Derek Lamparty" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > | Is it possible to schedule a backup of a XP Pro machine to run
while
> > no
> >> > user
> >> > | is logged on using the backup wizard?
> >> > |
> >> > | I have been trying to run backups in the wee hours of the morning
> > while
> >> > the
> >> > | computer is not being used. When I created the backup and
scheduled
> > it,
> >> > it
> >> > | asked for a username and password twice so I assumed that it should
> >> > work.
> >> > | However, if I look at the reports it shows that no files were
copied.
> >> > Also,
> >> > | if I take a look into the backup file, I can see that it copied all
> >> > of
> >> > | folders but not the files. So it runs, copies file but not the
> > folders
> >> > and
> >> > | saves the backup file to the drive. Seems odd to me. Another
wierd
> >> > thing
> >> > | is
> >> > | that it will actually pick up other backup files during the
scheduled
> >> > backup
> >> > | and add them to the file, howver, they will be the only files in
the
> >> > backup.
> >> > |
> >> > | Any thoughts?
> >> > |
> >> > | Thanks,
> >> > |
> >> > | Derek
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 
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