Hello people of Tom's Hardware, my friend ran into a problem with his computer. He recently upgraded his prebuilt Fry's Electronic's computer, and he's getting frame rate issues which I *think* he shouldn't be getting. His specs are :
Q8300 @ 2.5GHz
GTX 460 SC
1TB 7200RPM HDD
He says he's averaging about 22 FPS on medium settings and dropping to a low of 19 FPS. I'm pretty sure he should be getting more than that. Here's a screenshot of his suggested and medium settings.
You probley should look at how much stuff you have running in the back ground and switch the stuff you don't need off. Also you could try to OC'ing your CPU at least to 3.2.
Also take a look at your PSU, and make sure that it is giving you the right amount of power to run the 460. That 460 should be doing about 40 to 50 on med settings and on high should be 30 to 40.
What games are you getting these low FPS on? Your 460 is OC'd right? Well if it is the CPU should be also. I would at least try these things. If Hexit comes on. He will have a better answer for this problem also AntiZig as well.
You have to open up the case look at the PSU and look for the lable on there that tells you that what is on the 12v rail. It will have a bunch of numbers on there that look like 3.3v ,16 + 5v. 15 + 12v, 24.
If you can right down all the numbers and post on here I will be able to tell if there are any issues with the PSU.
ok, first off, have your friend disable HBAO, antialiasing post. If he gets better fps, then the GPU cannot handle the current settings well. If fps doesn't improve much, we'll have to look elsewhere.
Also, have your friend check the temps (how hot the GPU is running) use hwinfo, hwmonitor or speedfan to get the sensor readout.
I cannot find any decent review for that PSU, but it doesn't look like it's good quality, and I sure as hell don't expect it to be 700w. I'll try to check how much current a 460 should draw, I doubt it'll exceed 16a, but who knows.
The 460 draws 155w on load and on one 12v rail is 192w so it is not the PSU. But those type of PSU's can't be trusted. Try wha AntiZig stated. And if you don't see any improvement then come and let us know.
is it the same on populated maps as well as unpopulated, or single player campaign vs multi?
I know I get a big bump going from full multi to empty multi (not much fun though)
I'm on Q9550 (2.83) and a gtx 470, so nearly a comparable system. I'd be getting 40+ most of the time, 50+ on empty. And i'm running at 2048x1152, so many more pixels to push around. I do feel like I am being throttled by my CPU, ivy bridge will tell me whether that is true or not.
+1 to drivers
What does RAM usage look like, I'm using 4.5-5.0GB with BF3 and Teamspeak + assorted stuff.
Temps look good (odd for an upgraded ship built system)
Power looks good (again odd)
Is fraps always running?
Can you post a shot from MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision running in the background to show us fps, Vram etc.
does "everything is fine" mean you no longer have fps issues?
get hwinfo 64 bit version, check the voltages on cpu in the sensor tab and also see if you can find out any more info about the motherboard (if you expand motherboard entry, there should be slots which is also expandable, each one should be able to tell you what speed it's set to)
go into your bios, see if there's any settings for pcie (maybe your slots are set to run at lower than needed), check your ram settings (voltage and timings).
That motherboard is an HP business mobo, I've seen threads on here before and I had one in an old pavilion build so I don't know how overclocking would go with that board or if it's even possible. Alot of cookie cutter companies lock their bios.
With the current hardware: Antialiasing should be turned off completely, Ambient Occlusion: off, Anisotropic filter: off. Keep all other settings at medium. Also, to test FPS, don't use background software, use the game itself:
Hit the tilda key ' ~ ' and then type render.drawfps 1
hit enter, hit the tilda key again to remove the console from view and now the FPS should be displayed in the top right corner.
If you buy a good motherboard, I bought a gigabyte for cheap in 2009, you should OC your processor to 3.0. I oc'd my q8200 to 3.0 Ghz before I bought the qx9650 and the 2.33 - 3.0 Ghz in Dragon Age: Origins made a huge difference. There's a great possibility that your CPU is bottlenecking the 460 SC.
I wouldn't overclock that board you have. You can spend half of a dollar and get one of the above brand new... I'd imagine amazon or ebay would have one for a quarter. I remember looking up this thread a long time ago when I had a gtx 295 in my hp pavillion: