U.S. Treasury Department runs out of money

We need to park our aircraft carriers. Cut uneeded defence spending. Close European and far Asian bases. Properly fund our employees. Raise taxes progressively an additional 50%, by 100K, your tax bill should be 150% what it is now. THEN the hole won't get deeper ...

You will have to adopt some kind of austerity package or annexe some country and sell off its assets and enslave the people.

Department of Educations mission.
1. Distribute funds. $69.9 billion in discretionary appropriations.
2. Collect Data. Promote Education.
3. Law Enforcement.
It helps the poor and disadvantaged. This is a good thing. It does not make "college cheaper" or "high quality workers".

@ jsc - US Constitution
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Your idea is half shot down with these four words. "promote the general Welfare"

What do you think the word "promote" means in that context?

Here's was dictionary.com says:

pro·mote   /prəˈmoʊt/ Show Spelled[pruh-moht]
verb (used with object), -mot·ed, -mot·ing.

1. to help or encourage to exist or flourish; further: to promote world peace.
2. to advance in rank, dignity, position, etc. ( opposed to demote).
3. Education . to put ahead to the next higher stage or grade of a course or series of classes.
4. to aid in organizing (business undertakings).
5. to encourage the sales, acceptance, etc., of (a product), especially through advertising or other publicity.

Do you have a different definition of that word? I don't see how that phrase in the preamble justifies a federal dept. of education, energy, etc. State level, of course, just not at the federal level.

You could put all of the unemployed people in one spot ... put a fence around it ... install feed troughs ... minimise spending in that way.

Maybe model it on Guantanamo Bay ... that seems to be working well for you.

I'm sorry, that phrase justifies taking half of what someone earns how?

From your link
Hauser's Law is a theory by one economist that postulates that in the United States, federal tax revenues will always be equal to approximately 19.5% of gross domestic product (GDP), regardless of what the top marginal tax rate is. From fiscal year 1946 to fiscal year 2007, federal tax receipts as a percentage of GDP averaged 17.9%, with a range of 14.4% to 20.9%.[34] During the years referred to by Hauser (FY 46 to FY 93), the actual average was 17.7%.

So, taxes paid have gone up since 93

But education is not mentioned as one of the Federal responsibilities in the Constitution. Besides, what has it accomplished? Literacy rates have dropped in the 30 years of its existence. Kill it because it has been ineffective.

You know, I am constantly amazed that the US military dependent schools can, on the average, provide a better education at a lower cost per student than the civilian public schools. Can't be student quality. After all, we military, and former military, people are (liberal stereotype) too stupid to get a real job. And intelligence, like skin color, tends to be a heritable characteristic.

So what could the reason be? Enforced standards of conduct? Yes. The DoDDS (DoD Dependent Schools) are run by DoD and not DoEd? YES!

The original meaning was not what we believe it is now:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Welfare_clause

Much like the "Commerce Clause", it has been warped to justify government intrusion (primarily taxes) into all kinds of areas.

I guess, since things have gone so much better lately, our current enlightened thieves in Washington not only feel our forefathers who wrote the constitution didnt understand it right, but continuously turn away from its true meaning
In 1824 Chief Justice John Marshall described in obiter dictum a further limit on the General Welfare Clause in Gibbons v. Ogden: "Congress is authorized to lay and collect taxes, &c. to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and general welfare of the United States. ... Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States."[8]

Since having local taxes for education was wrong, and our forefathers didnt do it right, things have gotten much better, and costs of schooling has dropped since our enlightened Washingtonians corrected this grievous error.
Now, keep multiplying this, as we wander away from our constitution, and watch as our enlightened Washingtonians gain consciousness of how it works for all, even them

2. Since the US doesn't produce much locally anymore, then other countries won't be able to increase tariffs on much. Additionally, the US is one of the biggest consumer bases in the world. Most of the sales would be local here in the US.

3. The US has given Pakistan billions in aid, and what has it done for us? All they do is take the money and hinder the anti terror efforts. Or what about Bangladesh? We've already given them almost $6 billion, and the US is going to give them another billion over the next 5 years. I don't see Bangladesh as being a big importer of anything from the US.
http://news.yahoo.com/u-offers-ban [...] 45322.html

Edit: Forgot the link

That theory is sound ... it is how Australia got started.


giggle all you like but we are doing pretty fine thank you.

Unemployment 5%

Koala bears - check.

Beer - check.

Sun - check.

Fine women - check.

Wiggles - check (beta yellow rolled back to 1.0)

Minimal guns - check.

Peace - check.

Few Religious extremists - check.

What more do you want?

Better not mean Foster's

Ive tried it once, never again

Had a GF that did that, and wine as well
Gee, I miss her

























beer

Soda water??? Isn't that just carbonated water? Like the stuff that comes out of the soda fountains when the soda syrup has run out? That stuff is nasty.

@ aford

what makes you say the United States doesn't produce anything anymore. The US industrial base is still larger than China's with all its might. Now, in 20 years will that be the reality? Up in the air, but i'm leaning towards probably not.

I'm not sure about oil being our greatest export, just not sure about that. It all may be true, but the USA's industrial base is still larger than China's. How long that will continue to be true is up for debate.

Only in grain production are we still a world leader, the only real industrial production left is mostly the auto industry and the military industrial complex. Many of our factories are either shut down permanently like Bethlehem steel or outsourced to countries like India.
Can't forget what happened to Detroit and towns surrounding that area. The unemployment numbers are cooked more than a over done than thanksgiving ham. Last but not least pretty much everyone is broke in one way or another and there is no end in sight.

This nation isn't going to turn around when "the people" elect the people of the like of eight years of Bush and four thus far of Obama but then again rumors are starting to go around that Obama in a staged election will be here for a second term.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsQOJ2TDhyI

Well, it's true.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/indu [...] 52298812/1

And it looks like the US is the 3rd largest exporter.
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?t=10&v=85

And the US is ranked 98th in industrial growth, right behind Mauritius.
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx [...] &v=78&l=en

I guess my views only apply to Australia.

We are a special nation.

I can see your in the US and hooked through Charter's IP band.

;P