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What is a good FPS for a GTX 580 on BF3?

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March 1, 2012 2:17:08 AM

hi guys,

Just wondering what FPS people are getting with the GTX 580 on BF3?

I currently get around 70-80 in fast paced action up to 120 when theres not much happening just running around the country side. However it sometimes drop to 25fps when loading a game (is this normal?).

My specs are:

i7 2600k (overclocked to 4.5ghz)
hyper+ 212 cpu cooler
Asrock extreme 4
samsung spinpoint f3
OCZ vertex 3 60gig ssd
8 gig ram 1600mhz
850w cosair psu gold
ASUS GTX580 DirectCU II
NZXT phantom
Benq xl2410t 12ohz monitor

Also are there any tips besides running on lower settings to increase FPS? I currently run at full ultra settings and use IE as my browser. I'm not trying to brag in anyway as there's heaps better PCs out there just thought I'd get better responses if I supplied my specs.

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March 1, 2012 7:04:44 AM

It all looks normal to me, if the loading fps drop bothers you just lower some of the settings. However I would highly recommend you stop using IE as that will ause you problems. I would recommend you use goolge chrome.
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March 1, 2012 7:08:17 AM

It all looks normal to me, if the loading fps drop bothers you just lower some of the settings. However I would highly recommend you stop using IE as that will ause you problems. I would recommend you use goolge chrome.
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March 1, 2012 7:10:38 AM

Oops sorry about the double post, I was trying to edit the first one.

Apart from lowering settings, make sure you don't have lots of programs running in the background, try disabling your anti virus and you can also try downloading game booster.
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March 1, 2012 9:18:49 AM

13thmonkey said:
what does the browser have to do with frame rates? = Nothing


It may have nothing to do with frame rates but ie is a terrible browser and he should really stop using it.
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March 1, 2012 6:05:14 PM

if your dropping down to 25 fps you have an issue some where. your minimum fps should be a fair bit higher than 25, somewhere nearer 45+ try turning off powersaving mode in both bios and windows and see if that helps stabilize your fps .
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March 1, 2012 6:20:25 PM

but its 25fps during loading? do you really care about loading fps?
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March 1, 2012 7:01:22 PM

HEXiT said:
if your dropping down to 25 fps you have an issue some where. your minimum fps should be a fair bit higher than 25, somewhere nearer 45+ try turning off powersaving mode in both bios and windows and see if that helps stabilize your fps .


He gets 25 fps on the loading screen. This is normal for all cards in BF3.

OP your numbers are fine and look on par with what I would expect given your hardware. The only way you're going to get up to 120 fps to match your monitor's refresh rate in 64 player caspian boarder in the middle of a big fight, is if you SLI your card.
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March 3, 2012 12:13:33 AM

I might roll back my videocard driver, after updating PB it certainly loads a lot quicker and in game is still very playable but I dropped out after almost every round last night. If the driver rollback doesn't work I may just put it down to BF3 servers being a bit crap hopefully the patch will help.

Also I'm talking to my service provider for internet since I seem to get very good download but last time I tested my upload was lucky to be a 1mb and I assume that this may be an issue as I gather that the game has to upload stuff when starting a game and might be causing the drop out.
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March 3, 2012 12:19:34 AM

Did the game disconnect or did it crash? If it crashed, increase your GPU voltage or decrease the overclock slightly.
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March 3, 2012 1:23:21 AM

Mine drops to the high 30s during gulf of Oman with everything turned up to Max and I use evga classy. I turned MXAA to 2 and AF to 8 and now it rarely dips below 60. Dropping below 25 during load? Very normal; happened on my gtx 295 and happens now with my gtx580.
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March 3, 2012 3:42:11 AM

maybe its just normal the, I tried running as admin and while it does drop, so far no disconnects. Game loads fine and rins fine but when finished and new level is loading it would drop to around 25-30 fps then it would disconnect and I'd have to reconnect again then game would be fine until the end of the round again.

Anyway hoping running as admin has fixed it also followed a guide showing how to disable SSDP and UPnP. also turned off network discovery.
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March 3, 2012 9:27:04 AM

Everyone gets 25 fps during new map loading screen. That is normal.

Also jfizzle you can turn AF back to 16x. Your fps drop was from 4x multisampling. Anisotropic Filtering has very little impact on frames at all, even between 8 to 16x.
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March 3, 2012 1:18:35 PM

Wow thats some good FPS. I have an i7 2600k, a Gainward GTX 580 3GB and 8GB 1600Mhz DDR3 and I get 50-60 FPS on Ultra. Are you playing on Ultra too OP?
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March 3, 2012 1:19:21 PM

Sorry didn't notice that you mentioned you was running on ultra, my bad.
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March 3, 2012 2:14:19 PM

casualcolors said:
Everyone gets 25 fps during new map loading screen. That is normal.

Also jfizzle you can turn AF back to 16x. Your fps drop was from 4x multisampling. Anisotropic Filtering has very little impact on frames at all, even between 8 to 16x.


Ya? You think Casual? You're probably right, I adjusted a few setting including hbao and ssao and when going back to hbao I didn't notice any tax on visuals. And yes you're definitely correct int the fps of loading screens.
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March 3, 2012 2:16:48 PM

jfizzle4321 said:
Ya? You think Casual? You're probably right, I adjusted a few setting including hbao and ssao and when going back to hbao I didn't notice any tax on visuals. And yes you're definitely correct int the fps of loading screens.


Yeah, anisotropic filtering is just not hard for modern graphics cards to process. HBAO downgraded to SSAO would give literally 5-10x the benefit fps-wise as turning aniso from 16x to 8x, but the HBAO is pretty well written in BF3 apparently as even that doesn't cause much impact on most gpu's. Multisampling is the real crusher of the game with every other setting pretty far behind it.

On a side note, people who play BF3 competitively often turn deferred multisampling to 0x regardless of their graphics card setup because multisampling+post processing adds a haze over distant views that can obstruct enemies that aren't marked. Since multisampling is multitudes more taxing than the post processing, almost everyone just opts for the post processing and ditches the multisampling entirely.
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March 3, 2012 2:29:20 PM

So you're saying to just thrash msaa? I'll buy it. Though one setting that may be of interest is changing the power management mode and the threaded optimization mode in nvidia's control panel. I went in power management and set prefer max performance and set threaded optimization to "on." With all settings maxed (including msaa) I didn't dip below 60 on firestorm, though I'd imagine the lack of trees on that map compared to the abundance on Caspian made a huge difference.

On a separate note, I've been looking for a clan, are you in one?
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March 3, 2012 3:09:09 PM

jfizzle4321 said:
So you're saying to just thrash msaa? I'll buy it. Though one setting that may be of interest is changing the power management mode and the threaded optimization mode in nvidia's control panel. I went in power management and set prefer max performance and set threaded optimization to "on." With all settings maxed (including msaa) I didn't dip below 60 on firestorm, though I'd imagine the lack of trees on that map compared to the abundance on Caspian made a huge difference.

On a separate note, I've been looking for a clan, are you in one?


I just play with some friends who used to play competitive halo and some friends from bf2, nothing too serious anymore.

And yeah definitely set your NVCP settings to power management: max performance. I never change threaded optimization from auto but you are on the right track, and also correct about why certain maps do better with MSAA than others. A good measure for MSAA impact is Seine Crossing conquest, looking from the uncap, across the canal. That seems to be one spot where MSAA can drop your fps by as much as 15 even just at 2x MSAA.
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March 3, 2012 3:18:57 PM

casualcolors said:
I just play with some friends who used to play competitive halo and some friends from bf2, nothing too serious anymore.

And yeah definitely set your NVCP settings to power management: max performance. I never change threaded optimization from auto but you are on the right track, and also correct about why certain maps do better with MSAA than others. A good measure for MSAA impact is Seine Crossing conquest, looking from the uncap, across the canal. That seems to be one spot where MSAA can drop your fps by as much as 15 even just at 2x MSAA.


Ya I just played Caspian with it off and the lowest it hit was 59 and that was for less than a second, It was pretty much riding at 78 the whole time.
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March 3, 2012 10:25:07 PM

alright then so far all the changes I'd made no difference to drop outs. eg: disabling SSDP,UPnP and runnign as admin. Also ensured I had updated VC driver and PB. I didn't have MSAA on so that wasn't it.

I have everything on Ultra, AA deferred off AA post high, anisotropic filtering on 16x and HBAO.

I've now changed the power management to performance rather adaptive and otimisation threaded to on instead of auto. I'll do a couple of runs later and get back with the results.

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March 3, 2012 10:33:01 PM

shadow1942 said:
alright then so far all the changes I'd made no difference to drop outs. eg: disabling SSDP,UPnP and runnign as admin. Also ensured I had updated VC driver and PB. I didn't have MSAA on so that wasn't it.

I have everything on Ultra, AA deferred off AA post high, anisotropic filtering on 16x and HBAO.

I've now changed the power management to performance rather adaptive and otimisation threaded to on instead of auto. I'll do a couple of runs later and get back with the results.


If the game is just crashing, then use MSI afterburner or EVGA precision, whichever you overclock with, to max your voltage to the bios limit. If you still crash, lower clocks slightly. BF3 is very touchy about voltages and overclocks, and certain cards even with factory overclocks that should be highly stable, will cause the game to crash due to voltage being too low for its liking.
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March 4, 2012 10:16:58 AM

okay so changing the power management and optimisation threaded worked it seems. I played 3 rounds at absolute low settings, no drop outs, FPS 100-120, still drops to 30 FPS after stats disappear and new level loads.

Put back to ultra everything, no drop outs, FPS 80-90 and stable, still drops to FPS 30 when loading level.

I'm beginning to think that as some have stated its normal but I might just download MSI afterburner as you suggested casual and have a look at my voltages, I haven't bothered overclocking past the factory overclock.
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March 4, 2012 10:31:53 AM

shadow1942 said:
okay so changing the power management and optimisation threaded worked it seems. I played 3 rounds at absolute low settings, no drop outs, FPS 100-120, still drops to 30 FPS after stats disappear and new level loads.

Put back to ultra everything, no drop outs, FPS 80-90 and stable, still drops to FPS 30 when loading level.

I'm beginning to think that as some have stated its normal but I might just download MSI afterburner as you suggested casual and have a look at my voltages, I haven't bothered overclocking past the factory overclock.


[Just wondering what FPS people are getting with the GTX 580 on BF3?

I currently get around 70-80 in fast paced action up to 120 when theres not much happening just running around the country side. However it sometimes drop to 25fps when loading a game (is this normal?). ]

Shadow. Buddy.

I can promise you that it's definitely normal and you should be thrilled to get 80-90 while playing. It doesn't matter what you're getting what you are getting during load. Even if you're getting 3 frames per second you aren't playing the game at that moment. Try playing a few games where there are transitions and I can guarantee you get the low fps.

Cheers mate.
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March 4, 2012 10:38:50 AM

when loading the game my fps is 30 stable and then it goes on 48-60+ on hd 6870
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March 4, 2012 10:57:24 AM

whats wrong with 25/30fps when loading a game? you're not doing anything are you? its not going to load faster if it did it at 100fps?
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March 4, 2012 12:23:19 PM

13thmonkey said:
whats wrong with 25/30fps when loading a game? you're not doing anything are you? its not going to load faster if it did it at 100fps?


There is nothing wrong with it. He didn't realize that it was normal for every video card during the BF3 load screen to do this. He knows that it's not a problem now.
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March 4, 2012 12:36:32 PM

casualcolors said:
There is nothing wrong with it. He didn't realize that it was normal for every video card during the BF3 load screen to do this. He knows that it's not a problem now.


sorry, was reading shadows last post, 'and still drops to 25-30 during loading' made me think he was still believing it was an issue, when if there was no issue he probably wouldn't have mentioned it.
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March 4, 2012 12:39:41 PM

13thmonkey said:
sorry, was reading shadows last post, 'and still drops to 25-30 during loading' made me think he was still believing it was an issue, when if there was no issue he probably wouldn't have mentioned it.


Lol actually you made me rethink my wording. I *hope* he realizes that it's completely normal for every video card.
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March 4, 2012 1:01:24 PM

casualcolors said:
Lol actually you made me rethink my wording. I *hope* he realizes that it's completely normal for every video card.


Must admit my wording is normally a question to someone to get then to question what they want, i.e. whats wrong with... as opposed to there is nothing wrong with... i'm hoping tease out what his actual problem with that particular issue is, to make the OP think about what they are trying to achieve.
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March 4, 2012 5:56:04 PM

I got a evga gtx 580SC and a i5 2500k (no oc) and maintain 60fps. I have my tv locked to 60fps, so i got no clue what my highs are. But the lowest i see is 50-55 with ALOT of action going on, or if im shooting out the side of a helicopter. Thats with everything on max settings and 64 player maps. I couldnt be happier with the performance. Was orginally going to get another for SLI but honestly with fps like this theres no need to for a while. Im curious on what people are getting for temps though with there 580's during bf3. Im seeing around 67c high.
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March 4, 2012 10:17:41 PM

to t13th and casual, no I didn't know if it was normal at the time but now after all the adivce I realise that its fine. my last post was stating that it went down to 25-30 FPS was just for everyones info as I wanted to give the full picture.

But my main issue wasn't the low FPS, it was the disconnects (goes back to battlelog) I thought since the it had such low FPS it might be a causing the drop outs as the only time it droped out was when loading the next level and FPS was low.

Anyway thanks for all the info, I'm going back through the changes I made and will undo each one until I can confirm which one fixed my drop outs. I'll come back with results as I'm sure others may have simialr issues, thanks again for all the info guys love this place, nice easy to read straight forward advice, not the stupid use this or that cause its works for me.
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March 5, 2012 7:10:19 PM

shadow1942 said:
to t13th and casual, no I didn't know if it was normal at the time but now after all the adivce I realise that its fine. my last post was stating that it went down to 25-30 FPS was just for everyones info as I wanted to give the full picture.

But my main issue wasn't the low FPS, it was the disconnects (goes back to battlelog) I thought since the it had such low FPS it might be a causing the drop outs as the only time it droped out was when loading the next level and FPS was low.

Anyway thanks for all the info, I'm going back through the changes I made and will undo each one until I can confirm which one fixed my drop outs. I'll come back with results as I'm sure others may have simialr issues, thanks again for all the info guys love this place, nice easy to read straight forward advice, not the stupid use this or that cause its works for me.


Shadow buddy,

If you're having disconnects follow the following step by step in full detail and then let us know how you're doing:

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/news/view/28326547...

Cheers mate,

Fizz
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March 6, 2012 4:41:38 AM

thanks for that fizz, I'll have a few more runs this week and see if I still get disconnects as I haven't had any of late. I have turned SSDP & UPnP back on, as my xbox couldn't find windows media centre anymore, so I'll see if this affects my game and if disconnects reappear. If not then I'll see which of the two VC settings I chnaged made the difference.

If the disconnects reappear I'll send you guys the details as per fizz's guide
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March 12, 2012 8:43:24 AM

Hey fizz,

still had issues so I downloaded wireshark and I've recorded a session but have to be honest I don't have much idea what it all means :) , any chance you could have a look? I run battlefield settings editor and tried their cpu/gpu monitoing optoin. Everything runs fine in game then I get a CPU spike when loading the new level, gpu goes higher than it does in game too but not stupidly high like the cpu did.
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March 13, 2012 1:49:06 AM

jfizzle4321 said:
Shadow buddy,

If you're having disconnects follow the following step by step in full detail and then let us know how you're doing:

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/news/view/28326547...

Cheers mate,

Fizz


still had issues so I downloaded wireshark and I've recorded a session but have to be honest I don't have much idea what it all means , any chance you could have a look?
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March 13, 2012 3:27:26 AM

Look me up on battlelog too: jfizzle4321
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March 13, 2012 5:17:53 AM

sweet thanks mate, I'll look you up tonight. Thanks again for the help as I'm about over the game and almost to point of selling it :( 

It probably wouldn't bother me so much if the game didn't run well, as I'd just wait for the patch and hope it fixed it. But since it runs fine, I just have to reconnect almost every game, its starting to drive me nuts lol especially considering a mate has a low end laptop and has no issues.

I think I've probaly adjusted every possible setting listed on the net, including updating punkbuster and VC drivers to latest ones, turned UNUP off in the system and router, turned on threaded optimisation and changed performance management to performance. The last thing was turn off hyperthreading in bios and then I was going to do was uninstall everything reset everything back to default and start all over.

anyway I'll look you up and maybe you can make some sense of the log, I looked at it a bit and understaood some of it but I'm unsure what it really shows. The game I recorded didn't actually drop out but it certainly spiked when loading the map and it actually dropped to 0 frames when loading the new map but loaded it anyway lol its making me crazy
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March 14, 2012 7:25:43 AM

hey fizz, My
sorry couldn't get on last night. My battlefield tag is: ualldierealgood

will look you up tonight. :) 
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March 19, 2012 12:16:15 AM

Best answer selected by shadow1942.
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