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September 8, 2005 1:52:02 PM

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My disk is 28% fragmented.
When I run the defragger system tool, it gets to about 7% complete and then
stops and says that it's complete, but certain files cannot be defragmented.
These include

* outlook.pst (750M)
* archive.pst (1.1G)
* Google Desktop files
- fii.cf1 (260M)
- dbeam (280M)
- rpm.cf1 (720M)

I have 18% free on the drive.

Any notion on how to get this down to a healthy defrag level (say in the low
single digits at least)?

Many thanks,
Drew

More about : defrag big files

Anonymous
September 8, 2005 5:02:39 PM

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Are any Office programs, Outlook, running when you defrag?

Is Google Desktop running when you defrag?

Close them.


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:31E78927-B746-41C2-A7FF-2345B1F3568F@microsoft.com,
Dean <Dean@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> My disk is 28% fragmented.
> When I run the defragger system tool, it gets to about 7% complete and
> then stops and says that it's complete, but certain files cannot be
> defragmented. These include
>
> * outlook.pst (750M)
> * archive.pst (1.1G)
> * Google Desktop files
> - fii.cf1 (260M)
> - dbeam (280M)
> - rpm.cf1 (720M)
>
> I have 18% free on the drive.
>
> Any notion on how to get this down to a healthy defrag level (say in the
> low single digits at least)?
>
> Many thanks,
> Drew
September 8, 2005 5:03:03 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

Hi Wes,

Thanks so much for getting back. This problem has been driving me nuts.

I know this is a lot of info, but since you asked about what's running,
following is a) the report from the defrag tool, and b) a hijackthis log.

I had everything (incl outlook and google desktop) turned off to do the
defrag, although I notice below that there are some lines that cite google
desktop. I don't konw how to interpret, though.

Your further thoughts are much appreciated.

--------DEFRAG REPORT-----------------------

Volume (C:) 
Volume size = 18.63 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 15.14 GB
Free space = 3.49 GB
Percent free space = 18 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 28 %
File fragmentation = 52 %
Free space fragmentation = 5 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 58,727
Average file size = 355 KB
Total fragmented files = 252
Total excess fragments = 78,828
Average fragments per file = 2.34

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 700 MB
Total fragments = 14

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 6,247
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 91 MB
MFT record count = 65,598
Percent MFT in use = 70 %
Total MFT fragments = 10

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
481 5 MB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents\Steph transfer\My Music\iTunes\iTunes Music\Janet
Jackson\Velvet Rope\18 I Get Lonely.m4a
481 18 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
Settings\Application Data\Google\Picasa2\db\thumbs.db
339 20 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP649\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
330 20 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP646\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
329 20 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP647\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
328 20 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP671\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
328 20 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP672\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
328 20 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP673\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
328 20 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP674\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
328 20 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP675\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
328 20 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP676\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
330 21 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP684\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
330 21 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP687\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
330 21 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP688\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
330 21 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP679\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
330 21 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP689\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
330 21 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP680\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
330 21 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP681\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
330 21 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP682\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
330 21 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP683\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
330 21 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP685\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
330 21 MB \System Volume
Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP686\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
865 60 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\dbeao
544 80 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\dbdam
9,667 254 MB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents\Steph transfer\outlook.pst
1,348 260 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\fii.cf1
1,140 280 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\dbeam
8,253 720 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\rpm.cf1
12,417 742 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\outlook.pst
12,478 1.05 GB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\archive.pst

---END DEFRAG REPORT-----------

START HIJACK THIS LOG--------------

Logfile of HijackThis v1.98.2
Scan saved at 3:58:01 PM, on 9/8/2005
Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\csrss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus 2005\PavProt.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Digidesign\Drivers\MMERefresh.exe
C:\apachefriends\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld-nt.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus 2005\APVXDWIN.EXE
C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes2\iTunesHelper.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
2005\Firewall\PavFires.exe
C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus 2005\PavFnSvr.exe
C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus 2005\Pavkre.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Panda Software\PavShld\pavprsrv.exe
C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus 2005\pavsrv51.exe
C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus 2005\AVENGINE.EXE
C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus 2005\prevsrv.exe
C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus 2005\PsImSvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\wdfmgr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\wanmpsvc.exe
C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus 2005\WebProxy.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\wuauclt.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\taskmgr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\mmc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\DfrgNtfs.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\NOTEPAD.EXE
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\Drew\Local Settings\Temp\Temporary Directory 1 for
hijackthis.zip\HijackThis.exe

F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=C:\WINDOWS\regedit /s
C:\pav.reg,C:\WINDOWS\System32\pavdr.exe,C:\WINDOWS\System32\userinit.exe,
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} -
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.ocx
O2 - BHO: Google Desktop Search Capture -
{7c1ce531-09e9-4fc5-9803-1c2956615786} - C:\Program Files\Google\Google
Desktop Search\GoogleDesktopIE.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} -
c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} -
C:\WINDOWS\System32\msdxm.ocx
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program
files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
O3 - Toolbar: AIM Search - {40D41A8B-D79B-43d7-99A7-9EE0F344C385} -
C:\Program Files\AIM Toolbar\AIMBar.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Easy-WebPrint - {327C2873-E90D-4c37-AA9D-10AC9BABA46C} -
C:\Program Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Toolband.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE NvQTwk,NvCplDaemon initialize
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [APVXDWIN] "C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium
Antivirus 2005\APVXDWIN.EXE" /s
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe"
-atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DigidesignMMERefresh] C:\Program
Files\Digidesign\Drivers\MMERefresh.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Program Files\iTunes2\iTunesHelper.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Google Desktop Search] "C:\Program Files\Google\Google
Desktop Search\GoogleDesktop.exe" /startup
O4 - Startup: WinMySQLadmin.lnk =
C:\apachefriends\xampp\mysql\bin\winmysqladmin.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: &AIM Search - res://C:\Program Files\AIM
Toolbar\AIMBar.dll/aimsearch.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsearch.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmbacklinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmcache.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel -
res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\Office10\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint Add To Print List -
res://C:\Program Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_AddToList.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint High Speed Print -
res://C:\Program Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_HSPrint.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint Preview - res://C:\Program
Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_Preview.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint Print - res://C:\Program
Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_Print.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Onclave Share it! -
http://www.onclave.org/js/shareit-js.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Onclave: Magnet Share it -
http://magnet.onclave.com/js/shareit/shareit-invoker-js...
O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsimilar.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate into English - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmtrans.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: TypePad QuickPost -
https://www.typepad.com/t/app?__mode=reg_qp_js&qp_show=...
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} -
C:\PROGRA~1\OneNote\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: AIM - {AC9E2541-2814-11d5-BC6D-00B0D0A1DE45} - C:\Program
Files\AIM95\aim.exe
O9 - Extra button: Real.com - {CD67F990-D8E9-11d2-98FE-00C0F0318AFE} -
C:\WINDOWS\System32\Shdocvw.dll
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} -
C:\Program Files\Messenger\MSMSGS.EXE
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Messenger -
{FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\MSMSGS.EXE
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\google\google desktop
search\googledesktopnetwork1.dll
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\google\google desktop
search\googledesktopnetwork1.dll
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\google\google desktop
search\googledesktopnetwork1.dll
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\google\google desktop
search\googledesktopnetwork1.dll

---------END HIJACKTHIS LOG------------------

Sorry for all the data, but thanks very much for any further insight.



"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

> Are any Office programs, Outlook, running when you defrag?
>
> Is Google Desktop running when you defrag?
>
> Close them.
>
Related resources
Anonymous
September 9, 2005 2:31:01 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

You 1st need to run disk clean-up utility.After,go to run,type:cmd
In cmd type:D efrag C: Then press enter key,after type:EXIT To run a major
defrag,open system properties,advanced,performance,virtual mamory,change,
set C: to no page file,click set 2X,close out,direguard the warning,restart
computer.In xp,run defrag,after,reopen system properties,reset page file,re-
start computer.

"Dean" wrote:

> My disk is 28% fragmented.
> When I run the defragger system tool, it gets to about 7% complete and then
> stops and says that it's complete, but certain files cannot be defragmented.
> These include
>
> * outlook.pst (750M)
> * archive.pst (1.1G)
> * Google Desktop files
> - fii.cf1 (260M)
> - dbeam (280M)
> - rpm.cf1 (720M)
>
> I have 18% free on the drive.
>
> Any notion on how to get this down to a healthy defrag level (say in the low
> single digits at least)?
>
> Many thanks,
> Drew
Anonymous
September 9, 2005 11:16:32 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

Dean

Your problem is the sheer size of some of your fragmented files. I would
question whether you need to keep some of these on your hard drive.

You have some 20 system restore points. Restore points, which are more
than a day or so old, are not really worth keeping. Use the "More
Options" in Disk Clean Up to remove all but the last restore point.

You also have outlook pst files, presumably containing old messages. Why
not transfer these messages to CD to free up more disk space. Generally
having very large data files are not a good idea as most systems will
struggle to handle them. In your case Disk Defragmenter is not able to
find sufficient contiguous space to permit the larger fragments to be
combined.

A normal MFT (Master File Table) file consists of 3 fragments. Your file
is made up of 10 fragments.

Sometimes you need to run Disk Defragmenter more than once to get the
right result.

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
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"Dean" <Dean@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FE8C41A3-32D8-4D11-AA4E-A6DBDDD1A2E3@microsoft.com...
> Hi Wes,
>
> Thanks so much for getting back. This problem has been driving me
> nuts.
>
> I know this is a lot of info, but since you asked about what's
> running,
> following is a) the report from the defrag tool, and b) a hijackthis
> log.
>
> I had everything (incl outlook and google desktop) turned off to do
> the
> defrag, although I notice below that there are some lines that cite
> google
> desktop. I don't konw how to interpret, though.
>
> Your further thoughts are much appreciated.
>
> --------DEFRAG REPORT-----------------------
>
> Volume (C:) 
> Volume size = 18.63 GB
> Cluster size = 4 KB
> Used space = 15.14 GB
> Free space = 3.49 GB
> Percent free space = 18 %
>
> Volume fragmentation
> Total fragmentation = 28 %
> File fragmentation = 52 %
> Free space fragmentation = 5 %
>
> File fragmentation
> Total files = 58,727
> Average file size = 355 KB
> Total fragmented files = 252
> Total excess fragments = 78,828
> Average fragments per file = 2.34
>
> Pagefile fragmentation
> Pagefile size = 700 MB
> Total fragments = 14
>
> Folder fragmentation
> Total folders = 6,247
> Fragmented folders = 1
> Excess folder fragments = 0
>
> Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> Total MFT size = 91 MB
> MFT record count = 65,598
> Percent MFT in use = 70 %
> Total MFT fragments = 10
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> 481 5 MB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Documents\Steph transfer\My Music\iTunes\iTunes Music\Janet
> Jackson\Velvet Rope\18 I Get Lonely.m4a
> 481 18 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> Settings\Application Data\Google\Picasa2\db\thumbs.db
> 339 20 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP649\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 330 20 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP646\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 329 20 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP647\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 328 20 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP671\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 328 20 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP672\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 328 20 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP673\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 328 20 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP674\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 328 20 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP675\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 328 20 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP676\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 330 21 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP684\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 330 21 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP687\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 330 21 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP688\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 330 21 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP679\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 330 21 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP689\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 330 21 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP680\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 330 21 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP681\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 330 21 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP682\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 330 21 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP683\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 330 21 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP685\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 330 21 MB \System Volume
> Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP686\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> 865 60 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\dbeao
> 544 80 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\dbdam
> 9,667 254 MB \Documents and Settings\All
> Users\Documents\Steph transfer\outlook.pst
> 1,348 260 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\fii.cf1
> 1,140 280 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\dbeam
> 8,253 720 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\rpm.cf1
> 12,417 742 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\outlook.pst
> 12,478 1.05 GB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\archive.pst
>
> ---END DEFRAG REPORT-----------
>
> START HIJACK THIS LOG--------------
>
> Logfile of HijackThis v1.98.2
> Scan saved at 3:58:01 PM, on 9/8/2005
> Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
> MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)
>
> Running processes:
> C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\csrss.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\winlogon.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
> C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> 2005\PavProt.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
> C:\Program Files\Digidesign\Drivers\MMERefresh.exe
> C:\apachefriends\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld-nt.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\System32\RUNDLL32.EXE
> C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> 2005\APVXDWIN.EXE
> C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe
> C:\Program Files\iTunes2\iTunesHelper.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
> C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> 2005\Firewall\PavFires.exe
> C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> 2005\PavFnSvr.exe
> C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> 2005\Pavkre.exe
> C:\Program Files\Common Files\Panda Software\PavShld\pavprsrv.exe
> C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> 2005\pavsrv51.exe
> C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> 2005\AVENGINE.EXE
> C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> 2005\prevsrv.exe
> C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> 2005\PsImSvc.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\System32\wdfmgr.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\wanmpsvc.exe
> C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
> C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> 2005\WebProxy.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\System32\wuauclt.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\System32\taskmgr.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\mmc.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\DfrgNtfs.exe
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\NOTEPAD.EXE
> C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
> C:\Documents and Settings\Drew\Local Settings\Temp\Temporary Directory
> 1 for
> hijackthis.zip\HijackThis.exe
>
> F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=C:\WINDOWS\regedit /s
> C:\pav.reg,C:\WINDOWS\System32\pavdr.exe,C:\WINDOWS\System32\userinit.exe,
> O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class -
> {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} -
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.ocx
> O2 - BHO: Google Desktop Search Capture -
> {7c1ce531-09e9-4fc5-9803-1c2956615786} - C:\Program
> Files\Google\Google
> Desktop Search\GoogleDesktopIE.dll
> O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper -
> {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} -
> c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
> O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} -
> C:\WINDOWS\System32\msdxm.ocx
> O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} -
> c:\program
> files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
> O3 - Toolbar: AIM Search - {40D41A8B-D79B-43d7-99A7-9EE0F344C385} -
> C:\Program Files\AIM Toolbar\AIMBar.dll
> O3 - Toolbar: Easy-WebPrint - {327C2873-E90D-4c37-AA9D-10AC9BABA46C} -
> C:\Program Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Toolband.dll
> O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE NvQTwk,NvCplDaemon
> initialize
> O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [APVXDWIN] "C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda
> Titanium
> Antivirus 2005\APVXDWIN.EXE" /s
> O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program
> Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe"
> -atboottime
> O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DigidesignMMERefresh] C:\Program
> Files\Digidesign\Drivers\MMERefresh.exe
> O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Program
> Files\iTunes2\iTunesHelper.exe"
> O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Google Desktop Search] "C:\Program
> Files\Google\Google
> Desktop Search\GoogleDesktop.exe" /startup
> O4 - Startup: WinMySQLadmin.lnk =
> C:\apachefriends\xampp\mysql\bin\winmysqladmin.exe
> O8 - Extra context menu item: &AIM Search - res://C:\Program Files\AIM
> Toolbar\AIMBar.dll/aimsearch.htm
> O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://c:\program
> files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsearch.html
> O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://c:\program
> files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmbacklinks.html
> O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page -
> res://c:\program
> files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmcache.html
> O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel -
> res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\Office10\EXCEL.EXE/3000
> O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint Add To Print List -
> res://C:\Program
> Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_AddToList.html
> O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint High Speed Print -
> res://C:\Program
> Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_HSPrint.html
> O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint Preview - res://C:\Program
> Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_Preview.html
> O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint Print - res://C:\Program
> Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_Print.html
> O8 - Extra context menu item: Onclave Share it! -
> http://www.onclave.org/js/shareit-js.htm
> O8 - Extra context menu item: Onclave: Magnet Share it -
> http://magnet.onclave.com/js/shareit/shareit-invoker-js...
> O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://c:\program
> files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsimilar.html
> O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate into English -
> res://c:\program
> files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmtrans.html
> O8 - Extra context menu item: TypePad QuickPost -
> https://www.typepad.com/t/app?__mode=reg_qp_js&qp_show=...
> O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} -
> C:\PROGRA~1\OneNote\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
> O9 - Extra button: AIM - {AC9E2541-2814-11d5-BC6D-00B0D0A1DE45} -
> C:\Program
> Files\AIM95\aim.exe
> O9 - Extra button: Real.com - {CD67F990-D8E9-11d2-98FE-00C0F0318AFE} -
> C:\WINDOWS\System32\Shdocvw.dll
> O9 - Extra button: Messenger -
> {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} -
> C:\Program Files\Messenger\MSMSGS.EXE
> O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Messenger -
> {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program
> Files\Messenger\MSMSGS.EXE
> O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\google\google
> desktop
> search\googledesktopnetwork1.dll
> O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\google\google
> desktop
> search\googledesktopnetwork1.dll
> O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\google\google
> desktop
> search\googledesktopnetwork1.dll
> O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\google\google
> desktop
> search\googledesktopnetwork1.dll
>
> ---------END HIJACKTHIS LOG------------------
>
> Sorry for all the data, but thanks very much for any further insight.
>
>
>
> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
>
>> Are any Office programs, Outlook, running when you defrag?
>>
>> Is Google Desktop running when you defrag?
>>
>> Close them.
>>
>
September 9, 2005 11:16:33 PM

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Hi Gerry,

Many thanks. You bring up a real sore point for me, to whit:

* I realize that my .pst file is too big. however, I rely on the ability
to access old email, and I do it all the time. Google desktop has been a
real boon to me in that it helps me find stuff fast.

* The above said, I still would love to have a nice, tight outlook file so
things would run more smoothly. My first thought was to export all messages
to my gmail account and access and search them there, but I haven't found a
good (easy) way to do this.

Also, I have 500+ contacts.

Any thoughts on how to keep the .pst file size down but still provide access
to the past couple of years' email?

Many thanks for your thougts,
d



"Gerry Cornell" wrote:

> Dean
>
> Your problem is the sheer size of some of your fragmented files. I would
> question whether you need to keep some of these on your hard drive.
>
> You have some 20 system restore points. Restore points, which are more
> than a day or so old, are not really worth keeping. Use the "More
> Options" in Disk Clean Up to remove all but the last restore point.
>
> You also have outlook pst files, presumably containing old messages. Why
> not transfer these messages to CD to free up more disk space. Generally
> having very large data files are not a good idea as most systems will
> struggle to handle them. In your case Disk Defragmenter is not able to
> find sufficient contiguous space to permit the larger fragments to be
> combined.
>
> A normal MFT (Master File Table) file consists of 3 fragments. Your file
> is made up of 10 fragments.
>
> Sometimes you need to run Disk Defragmenter more than once to get the
> right result.
>
> --
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
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>
> "Dean" <Dean@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FE8C41A3-32D8-4D11-AA4E-A6DBDDD1A2E3@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Wes,
> >
> > Thanks so much for getting back. This problem has been driving me
> > nuts.
> >
> > I know this is a lot of info, but since you asked about what's
> > running,
> > following is a) the report from the defrag tool, and b) a hijackthis
> > log.
> >
> > I had everything (incl outlook and google desktop) turned off to do
> > the
> > defrag, although I notice below that there are some lines that cite
> > google
> > desktop. I don't konw how to interpret, though.
> >
> > Your further thoughts are much appreciated.
> >
> > --------DEFRAG REPORT-----------------------
> >
> > Volume (C:) 
> > Volume size = 18.63 GB
> > Cluster size = 4 KB
> > Used space = 15.14 GB
> > Free space = 3.49 GB
> > Percent free space = 18 %
> >
> > Volume fragmentation
> > Total fragmentation = 28 %
> > File fragmentation = 52 %
> > Free space fragmentation = 5 %
> >
> > File fragmentation
> > Total files = 58,727
> > Average file size = 355 KB
> > Total fragmented files = 252
> > Total excess fragments = 78,828
> > Average fragments per file = 2.34
> >
> > Pagefile fragmentation
> > Pagefile size = 700 MB
> > Total fragments = 14
> >
> > Folder fragmentation
> > Total folders = 6,247
> > Fragmented folders = 1
> > Excess folder fragments = 0
> >
> > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
> > Total MFT size = 91 MB
> > MFT record count = 65,598
> > Percent MFT in use = 70 %
> > Total MFT fragments = 10
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
> > 481 5 MB \Documents and Settings\All
> > Users\Documents\Steph transfer\My Music\iTunes\iTunes Music\Janet
> > Jackson\Velvet Rope\18 I Get Lonely.m4a
> > 481 18 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> > Settings\Application Data\Google\Picasa2\db\thumbs.db
> > 339 20 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP649\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 330 20 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP646\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 329 20 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP647\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 328 20 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP671\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 328 20 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP672\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 328 20 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP673\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 328 20 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP674\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 328 20 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP675\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 328 20 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP676\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP684\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP687\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP688\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP679\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP689\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP680\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP681\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP682\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP683\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP685\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP686\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
> > 865 60 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> > Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\dbeao
> > 544 80 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> > Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\dbdam
> > 9,667 254 MB \Documents and Settings\All
> > Users\Documents\Steph transfer\outlook.pst
> > 1,348 260 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> > Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\fii.cf1
> > 1,140 280 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> > Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\dbeam
> > 8,253 720 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> > Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\rpm.cf1
> > 12,417 742 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> > Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\outlook.pst
> > 12,478 1.05 GB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
> > Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\archive.pst
> >
> > ---END DEFRAG REPORT-----------
> >
> > START HIJACK THIS LOG--------------
> >
> > Logfile of HijackThis v1.98.2
> > Scan saved at 3:58:01 PM, on 9/8/2005
> > Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
> > MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)
> >
> > Running processes:
> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\csrss.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\winlogon.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> > 2005\PavProt.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
> > C:\Program Files\Digidesign\Drivers\MMERefresh.exe
> > C:\apachefriends\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld-nt.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\RUNDLL32.EXE
> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> > 2005\APVXDWIN.EXE
> > C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe
> > C:\Program Files\iTunes2\iTunesHelper.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> > 2005\Firewall\PavFires.exe
> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> > 2005\PavFnSvr.exe
> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> > 2005\Pavkre.exe
> > C:\Program Files\Common Files\Panda Software\PavShld\pavprsrv.exe
> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> > 2005\pavsrv51.exe
> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> > 2005\AVENGINE.EXE
> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> > 2005\prevsrv.exe
> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> > 2005\PsImSvc.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\wdfmgr.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\wanmpsvc.exe
> > C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
> > 2005\WebProxy.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\wuauclt.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\taskmgr.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\mmc.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\DfrgNtfs.exe
> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\NOTEPAD.EXE
> > C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
> > C:\Documents and Settings\Drew\Local Settings\Temp\Temporary Directory
> > 1 for
> > hijackthis.zip\HijackThis.exe
> >
> > F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=C:\WINDOWS\regedit /s
> > C:\pav.reg,C:\WINDOWS\System32\pavdr.exe,C:\WINDOWS\System32\userinit.exe,
> > O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class -
> > {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} -
> > C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.ocx
> > O2 - BHO: Google Desktop Search Capture -
> > {7c1ce531-09e9-4fc5-9803-1c2956615786} - C:\Program
> > Files\Google\Google
> > Desktop Search\GoogleDesktopIE.dll
> > O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper -
> > {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} -
> > c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
> > O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} -
> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\msdxm.ocx
> > O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} -
> > c:\program
> > files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
> > O3 - Toolbar: AIM Search - {40D41A8B-D79B-43d7-99A7-9EE0F344C385} -
> > C:\Program Files\AIM Toolbar\AIMBar.dll
> > O3 - Toolbar: Easy-WebPrint - {327C2873-E90D-4c37-AA9D-10AC9BABA46C} -
> > C:\Program Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Toolband.dll
> > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE NvQTwk,NvCplDaemon
> > initialize
> > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [APVXDWIN] "C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda
> > Titanium
> > Antivirus 2005\APVXDWIN.EXE" /s
> > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program
> > Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe"
> > -atboottime
> > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DigidesignMMERefresh] C:\Program
> > Files\Digidesign\Drivers\MMERefresh.exe
> > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Program
> > Files\iTunes2\iTunesHelper.exe"
> > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Google Desktop Search] "C:\Program
> > Files\Google\Google
> > Desktop Search\GoogleDesktop.exe" /startup
> > O4 - Startup: WinMySQLadmin.lnk =
> > C:\apachefriends\xampp\mysql\bin\winmysqladmin.exe
> > O8 - Extra context menu item: &AIM Search - res://C:\Program Files\AIM
> > Toolbar\AIMBar.dll/aimsearch.htm
> > O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://c:\program
> > files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsearch.html
> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://c:\program
> > files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmbacklinks.html
> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page -
> > res://c:\program
> > files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmcache.html
> > O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel -
> > res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\Office10\EXCEL.EXE/3000
> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint Add To Print List -
> > res://C:\Program
> > Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_AddToList.html
> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint High Speed Print -
> > res://C:\Program
> > Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_HSPrint.html
> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint Preview - res://C:\Program
> > Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_Preview.html
> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint Print - res://C:\Program
> > Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_Print.html
> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Onclave Share it! -
> > http://www.onclave.org/js/shareit-js.htm
> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Onclave: Magnet Share it -
> > http://magnet.onclave.com/js/shareit/shareit-invoker-js...
> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://c:\program
> > files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsimilar.html
> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate into English -
> > res://c:\program
> > files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmtrans.html
> > O8 - Extra context menu item: TypePad QuickPost -
> > https://www.typepad.com/t/app?__mode=reg_qp_js&qp_show=...
> > O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} -
> > C:\PROGRA~1\OneNote\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
> > O9 - Extra button: AIM - {AC9E2541-2814-11d5-BC6D-00B0D0A1DE45} -
Anonymous
September 10, 2005 2:15:48 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

Dean

I have but do not use Microsoft Outlook so I am not able to help with
that question.

One way forward would be to add a second hard drive. You need to
increase free space. A second drive say 40 gb would make organising
files much better.

Did you eliminate the surplus to requirements system restore folders.

In another message you seem to be saying that Disk Defragmenter does not
complete. If this is the case then you have a "corrupt" file or a disk
problem. In this situation I would first get rid of all temporary
internet files. If that did not clear the problem I would run chkdsk.

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
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"Dean" <Dean@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:04A8AA5A-1C0A-4938-A851-F93872210E8E@microsoft.com...
> Hi Gerry,
>
> Many thanks. You bring up a real sore point for me, to whit:
>
> * I realize that my .pst file is too big. however, I rely on the
> ability
> to access old email, and I do it all the time. Google desktop has
> been a
> real boon to me in that it helps me find stuff fast.
>
> * The above said, I still would love to have a nice, tight outlook
> file so
> things would run more smoothly. My first thought was to export all
> messages
> to my gmail account and access and search them there, but I haven't
> found a
> good (easy) way to do this.
>
> Also, I have 500+ contacts.
>
> Any thoughts on how to keep the .pst file size down but still provide
> access
> to the past couple of years' email?
>
> Many thanks for your thougts,
> d
>
>
>
> "Gerry Cornell" wrote:
>
>> Dean
>>
>> Your problem is the sheer size of some of your fragmented files. I
>> would
>> question whether you need to keep some of these on your hard drive.
>>
>> You have some 20 system restore points. Restore points, which are
>> more
>> than a day or so old, are not really worth keeping. Use the "More
>> Options" in Disk Clean Up to remove all but the last restore point.
>>
>> You also have outlook pst files, presumably containing old messages.
>> Why
>> not transfer these messages to CD to free up more disk space.
>> Generally
>> having very large data files are not a good idea as most systems will
>> struggle to handle them. In your case Disk Defragmenter is not able
>> to
>> find sufficient contiguous space to permit the larger fragments to be
>> combined.
>>
>> A normal MFT (Master File Table) file consists of 3 fragments. Your
>> file
>> is made up of 10 fragments.
>>
>> Sometimes you need to run Disk Defragmenter more than once to get the
>> right result.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>>
>> Using invalid email address
>>
>> Stourport, Worcs, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Please tell the newsgroup how any
>> suggested solution worked for you.
>>
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>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dean" <Dean@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:FE8C41A3-32D8-4D11-AA4E-A6DBDDD1A2E3@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Wes,
>> >
>> > Thanks so much for getting back. This problem has been driving me
>> > nuts.
>> >
>> > I know this is a lot of info, but since you asked about what's
>> > running,
>> > following is a) the report from the defrag tool, and b) a
>> > hijackthis
>> > log.
>> >
>> > I had everything (incl outlook and google desktop) turned off to do
>> > the
>> > defrag, although I notice below that there are some lines that
>> > cite
>> > google
>> > desktop. I don't konw how to interpret, though.
>> >
>> > Your further thoughts are much appreciated.
>> >
>> > --------DEFRAG REPORT-----------------------
>> >
>> > Volume (C:) 
>> > Volume size = 18.63 GB
>> > Cluster size = 4 KB
>> > Used space = 15.14 GB
>> > Free space = 3.49 GB
>> > Percent free space = 18 %
>> >
>> > Volume fragmentation
>> > Total fragmentation = 28 %
>> > File fragmentation = 52 %
>> > Free space fragmentation = 5 %
>> >
>> > File fragmentation
>> > Total files = 58,727
>> > Average file size = 355 KB
>> > Total fragmented files = 252
>> > Total excess fragments = 78,828
>> > Average fragments per file = 2.34
>> >
>> > Pagefile fragmentation
>> > Pagefile size = 700 MB
>> > Total fragments = 14
>> >
>> > Folder fragmentation
>> > Total folders = 6,247
>> > Fragmented folders = 1
>> > Excess folder fragments = 0
>> >
>> > Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
>> > Total MFT size = 91 MB
>> > MFT record count = 65,598
>> > Percent MFT in use = 70 %
>> > Total MFT fragments = 10
>> >
>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
>> > 481 5 MB \Documents and Settings\All
>> > Users\Documents\Steph transfer\My Music\iTunes\iTunes Music\Janet
>> > Jackson\Velvet Rope\18 I Get Lonely.m4a
>> > 481 18 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
>> > Settings\Application Data\Google\Picasa2\db\thumbs.db
>> > 339 20 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP649\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 330 20 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP646\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 329 20 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP647\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 328 20 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP671\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 328 20 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP672\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 328 20 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP673\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 328 20 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP674\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 328 20 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP675\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 328 20 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP676\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP684\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP687\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP688\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP679\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP689\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP680\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP681\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP682\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP683\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP685\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 330 21 MB \System Volume
>> > Information\_restore{C3BEA450-728D-434E-A34C-D4588905521C}\RP686\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
>> > 865 60 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
>> > Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\dbeao
>> > 544 80 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
>> > Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\dbdam
>> > 9,667 254 MB \Documents and Settings\All
>> > Users\Documents\Steph transfer\outlook.pst
>> > 1,348 260 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
>> > Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\fii.cf1
>> > 1,140 280 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
>> > Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\dbeam
>> > 8,253 720 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
>> > Settings\Application Data\Google\Google Desktop Search\rpm.cf1
>> > 12,417 742 MB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
>> > Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\outlook.pst
>> > 12,478 1.05 GB \Documents and Settings\Drew\Local
>> > Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\archive.pst
>> >
>> > ---END DEFRAG REPORT-----------
>> >
>> > START HIJACK THIS LOG--------------
>> >
>> > Logfile of HijackThis v1.98.2
>> > Scan saved at 3:58:01 PM, on 9/8/2005
>> > Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
>> > MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)
>> >
>> > Running processes:
>> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\csrss.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\winlogon.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
>> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
>> > 2005\PavProt.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
>> > C:\Program Files\Digidesign\Drivers\MMERefresh.exe
>> > C:\apachefriends\xampp\mysql\bin\mysqld-nt.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\RUNDLL32.EXE
>> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
>> > 2005\APVXDWIN.EXE
>> > C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe
>> > C:\Program Files\iTunes2\iTunesHelper.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
>> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
>> > 2005\Firewall\PavFires.exe
>> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
>> > 2005\PavFnSvr.exe
>> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
>> > 2005\Pavkre.exe
>> > C:\Program Files\Common Files\Panda Software\PavShld\pavprsrv.exe
>> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
>> > 2005\pavsrv51.exe
>> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
>> > 2005\AVENGINE.EXE
>> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
>> > 2005\prevsrv.exe
>> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
>> > 2005\PsImSvc.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\wdfmgr.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\wanmpsvc.exe
>> > C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
>> > C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda Titanium Antivirus
>> > 2005\WebProxy.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\wuauclt.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\taskmgr.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\mmc.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\DfrgNtfs.exe
>> > C:\WINDOWS\system32\NOTEPAD.EXE
>> > C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
>> > C:\Documents and Settings\Drew\Local Settings\Temp\Temporary
>> > Directory
>> > 1 for
>> > hijackthis.zip\HijackThis.exe
>> >
>> > F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=C:\WINDOWS\regedit /s
>> > C:\pav.reg,C:\WINDOWS\System32\pavdr.exe,C:\WINDOWS\System32\userinit.exe,
>> > O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class -
>> > {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} -
>> > C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.ocx
>> > O2 - BHO: Google Desktop Search Capture -
>> > {7c1ce531-09e9-4fc5-9803-1c2956615786} - C:\Program
>> > Files\Google\Google
>> > Desktop Search\GoogleDesktopIE.dll
>> > O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper -
>> > {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} -
>> > c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
>> > O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} -
>> > C:\WINDOWS\System32\msdxm.ocx
>> > O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} -
>> > c:\program
>> > files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
>> > O3 - Toolbar: AIM Search - {40D41A8B-D79B-43d7-99A7-9EE0F344C385} -
>> > C:\Program Files\AIM Toolbar\AIMBar.dll
>> > O3 - Toolbar: Easy-WebPrint -
>> > {327C2873-E90D-4c37-AA9D-10AC9BABA46C} -
>> > C:\Program Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Toolband.dll
>> > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE NvQTwk,NvCplDaemon
>> > initialize
>> > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [APVXDWIN] "C:\Program Files\Panda Software\Panda
>> > Titanium
>> > Antivirus 2005\APVXDWIN.EXE" /s
>> > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program
>> > Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe"
>> > -atboottime
>> > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DigidesignMMERefresh] C:\Program
>> > Files\Digidesign\Drivers\MMERefresh.exe
>> > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Program
>> > Files\iTunes2\iTunesHelper.exe"
>> > O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Google Desktop Search] "C:\Program
>> > Files\Google\Google
>> > Desktop Search\GoogleDesktop.exe" /startup
>> > O4 - Startup: WinMySQLadmin.lnk =
>> > C:\apachefriends\xampp\mysql\bin\winmysqladmin.exe
>> > O8 - Extra context menu item: &AIM Search - res://C:\Program
>> > Files\AIM
>> > Toolbar\AIMBar.dll/aimsearch.htm
>> > O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://c:\program
>> > files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsearch.html
>> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://c:\program
>> > files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmbacklinks.html
>> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page -
>> > res://c:\program
>> > files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmcache.html
>> > O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel -
>> > res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\Office10\EXCEL.EXE/3000
>> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint Add To Print List -
>> > res://C:\Program
>> > Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_AddToList.html
>> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint High Speed Print -
>> > res://C:\Program
>> > Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_HSPrint.html
>> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint Preview -
>> > res://C:\Program
>> > Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_Preview.html
>> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Easy-WebPrint Print -
>> > res://C:\Program
>> > Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Resource.dll/RC_Print.html
>> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Onclave Share it! -
>> > http://www.onclave.org/js/shareit-js.htm
>> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Onclave: Magnet Share it -
>> > http://magnet.onclave.com/js/shareit/shareit-invoker-js...
>> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://c:\program
>> > files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsimilar.html
>> > O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate into English -
>> > res://c:\program
>> > files\google\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmtrans.html
>> > O8 - Extra context menu item: TypePad QuickPost -
>> > https://www.typepad.com/t/app?__mode=reg_qp_js&qp_show=...
>> > O9 - Extra button: Research -
>> > {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} -
>> > C:\PROGRA~1\OneNote\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
>> > O9 - Extra button: AIM - {AC9E2541-2814-11d5-BC6D-00B0D0A1DE45} -
Anonymous
September 10, 2005 4:34:58 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain (More info?)

Dean Wrote:
> My disk is 28% fragmented.
> When I run the defragger system tool, it gets to about 7% complete and
> then
> stops and says that it's complete, but certain files cannot be
> defragmented.
> These include
>
> * outlook.pst (750M)
> * archive.pst (1.1G)
> * Google Desktop files
> - fii.cf1 (260M)
> - dbeam (280M)
> - rpm.cf1 (720M)
>
> I have 18% free on the drive.
>
> Any notion on how to get this down to a healthy defrag level (say in
> the low
> single digits at least)?
>
> Many thanks,
> Drew

Programs like google desktop search keeps indexing your files and that
information can grow up to around 1gb taking up space on your system
folder.
Why dont you run something like Ccleaner, and then run a third party
defragmenter? If your drive gets fragmented pretty fast, set the
automatic defragmenter to defrag every night or once a week or so and
keep fragmentation levels under check. Not only is it faster, will
defrag the paging file and MFT also.


--
kenchi
!