72 Hour Suspension? Fair or Unfair? How do you like your c..

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"Dennis" <spliffeh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: ****
>> >To: WoWAccountAdmin@blizzard.com
>> >Sent: 1/27/2005 6:24:15 PM
>> >Subject: Suspension Appeal
>> >
>> >Pussy \Pussy\, n. [Dim. of puss.]
>> > 1. A pet name for a cat; also, an endearing name for a girl.
>> >
>> > 2. A catkin of the pussy willow.
>> >
>> > 3. The game of tipcat; -- also called pussy cat.
>> >
>> >You guys gave me a 72 hour suspension without warning for using the
>> >word pussy? And in leet speak no less? Is this a method of conserving
>> >bandwidth???? Handing out ridiculous 3 day suspensions without warning,
>> >for use of a word thats in the dictionary??? This does not improve
>> >anyone's gaming experience, your just being anal (thats in the
>> >dictionary too, am I allowed to use that word?).
>> >
>> >I ask someone to reconsider this extremely harsh 72 hour suspension
>> >please.
>> >It should be 3 hours *tops* and even that is ridiculously unnecessary.
>> >I will not use the word pussy again, not even pussycat. Please
>> >reinstate the account I am paying you for.
>> >
>> >Thank you.
>> >
>> >
>> >account name: *******
>> >reply: ***********
>
> -----------------------------------------------
>
>> >From: WoWAccountAdmin@blizzard.com
>> >To: ****
>> >Subject: World of Warcraft - Account Issue
>> >Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:30:46 -0800
>> >
>> >Greetings,
>> >
>> >Thank you for taking the time to contact us regarding the World of
>> >Warcraft account you are using. We appreciate and understand your point
>> >of view, yet have to reiterate that all players participating in the
>> >World of Warcraft environment are required to adhere to the Terms of
>> >Use
>> >(<http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/termsofuse.shtml> ) at all times.
>> >
>> >Account Name: ****
>> >Server(s): ****
>> >Offense: Harassment Policy Violation - Inappropriate
>> >Details: (GMT) 1/27/2005 21:15 **** Say (]_337) ]>.[_].$.$.'/.
>> >
>> >With regards to the above account action, please review the World of
>> >Warcraft Harassment Policy at
>> >http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/policy/harassment.shtml. As you can see
>> >from the above information, using such language falls into the
>> >Inappropriate category. You will also notice that the suggested penalty
>> >for such actions is to be temporarily suspended from the game. While
>> >these repercussions may seem harsh, we feel very strongly that this
>> >language has no place within the world of Azeroth due to its extremely
>> >offensive nature. Therefore, we regret to inform you that we are unable
>> >to reduce or reverse the account action previously issued.
>> >
>> >We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused and hope this
>> >has resolved any concerns you may have had. Please let us know if we
>> >can be of further assistance to you.
>> >
>> >Thank you for your time and patience in this matter.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >****
>> >Account Administration
>> >Blizzard Entertainment
>> >
>> >Customer satisfaction is a top priority here at Blizzard Entertainment,
>> >and we would like your feedback on the level of service you have
>> >received.
>> >Please feel free to provide such feedback at the following web address:
>> >****
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ****
>>To: WoWAccountAdmin@blizzard.com
>>Sent: 1/28/2005 11:18:53 AM
>>Subject: RE: World of Warcraft - Account Issue
>>
>>I state again that you are out of line to do this, even in terms of
> what is posted on your website and the link you replied to me with. I
> quote:
>>
>>"* Obscene/Vulgar
>>This category includes both clear and masked language which:
>>- Is an inappropriate reference to human anatomy or bodily functions
>>- Is pornographic in nature
>>
>>*If a player is found to have used such language, he/she may:
>>Be given a warning"
>>
>>.....You know very well that when I said "pussy" I meant "wimp" or
> "gutless"
>>and not a reference to a woman's anatomy. Words have many different
> definitions. Please tell me, will I be suspended again if I use the
> word "Bush" when refering to a plant? You guys have your minds in the
> gutter and are obviously just looking for excuses to suspend people.
>>
>>Besides all that.... it says that a player will "Be given a warning"
> on the link you provided me. What warning did I receive???? The GM
> wouldnt even talk to me or tell me what I had done wrong, in fact I
> was positive it was a mistake.
>>
>>Besides all that... and granted this is a minor thing, but what I
> wrote wasnt in english!! You are making an assumption that it even
> says what you think it says.....
>>
>>I say again... Please reinstate me or credit me for 3 days. This
> suspension is harsh and represents you *violating what is written on
> your own website*.
>>I am a thirty year old mature adult, I am the least of your problems.
> Please show me that your not running a completely mindless system and
> are capable of some thought.
>>
>>Thank you.
>
> -------------------------------------
>
>>From: <wowaccountadmin@blizzard.com>
>>To: ****
>>Subject: World of Warcraft - Account Issue
>>Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:39:58 -0800
>>
>>Greetings,
>>
>>Thank you for the follow-up email. The Obscene Vulgar and
> Inappropriate policy(s) has been violated and as a result the action
> taken on the account will not be reduced or reversed. Thank you.
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>****
>>Account Administration
>>Blizzard Entertainment
>
> -------------------------------------
>
> I plead for someone who is more senior to review this matter.
>
> I say again.... it is YOU who have violated YOUR "Obscene Vulgar and
> Inppropirate policy(s)." Please correct me if I am incorrect. I will
> quote them again:
>
> """"""
> * Obscene/Vulgar
> This category includes both clear and masked language which:
> - Is an inappropriate reference to human anatomy or bodily functions
> - Is pornographic in nature
>
> *If a player is found to have used such language, he/she may:
> Be given a warning
> """"""
>
> ....There was NO warning and NO reference to human anatomy.
>
> ....I ask again, if I say the word "bush" in game while referring to a
> 'plant' or 'being lame' will I be punished?
>
> ....And I ask that you forward my emails to a manager or someone in a
> position to think not someone that sends form letters mindlessly.
>
> As an end note, you have completely turned me off WoW and reconfirmed
> my doubts about Blizzard. I purchased Everquest2 this afternoon
> because of the annoyance and lack of response you have given me, not
> to mention the queues. If you are trying to drive customers away -
> well done.
>
> I intend to follow this through until you "make good on your words"
> (see quote above).
>
> PLEASE FORWARD THIS ENTIRE THREAD TO SOMEONE AUTHORIZED TO MAKE
> DECISIONS. I will be calling on Monday to follow up (despite the fact
> that my suspension ends Sunday). I would appreciate a real answer not
> a minimum-wage-form-letter-go-away answer.


lol quite being a pussy and deal with it.
you clearly violated the terms of user agreement.
you "may be" given a warning, and you may not be.
anyone older than the age of 8 can tell the difference in, for lack of a
word, severity between "pussy" and "bush".
and let me assure you, the old "i'm gonna take my business elsewhere"
routine wont help you at all. barking orders at a GM via email will not get
your "concerns" addressed any faster, if anything they'll put you on a back
burner.
if youre leaving, why the hell would they bother to follow-up on your case
anyways. do you really thing theyre gonna miss your $15 a month?
seriously, if you posted here looking for sympathy, i doubt you'll find it.

lee

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DENIAL!

You were in the wrong.

Deal with it.

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 01:15:04 -0600, Lokari wrote:

> Also, the fact that they'll actually act against tossers like you is
> one of the best arguments I've seen in favor of playing WoW.

I realise that your article is just flamebait, but the issue here is not
their vulgarity policy, but the random ways in which they enforce it. You
can and will see far worse than a differently spelled "pussy", even actual
character names, and nothing is done about those. While not native to the
English language and thus perhaps unqualified to make that statement, I do
not consider the word "pussy" (as in: "coward" ) an actionable insult/vulgar
expression according to Blizzard's own terms. So, in short, the issue here
is inconsistency and a lack of transparency.

M.

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"Johnny Bravo" <baawa_knight@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >PLEASE FORWARD THIS ENTIRE THREAD TO SOMEONE AUTHORIZED TO MAKE
> >DECISIONS.
>
> Why, you think you have some special rights that no one else has?

As if anyone would want to help him

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"Dennis" <spliffeh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: ****
>> >To: WoWAccountAdmin@blizzard.com
>> >Sent: 1/27/2005 6:24:15 PM
>> >Subject: Suspension Appeal
>> >
>> >Pussy \Pussy\, n. [Dim. of puss.]
>> > 1. A pet name for a cat; also, an endearing name for a girl.
>> >
>> > 2. A catkin of the pussy willow.
>> >
>> > 3. The game of tipcat; -- also called pussy cat.
>> >
>> >You guys gave me a 72 hour suspension without warning for using the
>> >word pussy? And in leet speak no less? Is this a method of conserving
>> >bandwidth???? Handing out ridiculous 3 day suspensions without warning,
>> >for use of a word thats in the dictionary??? This does not improve
>> >anyone's gaming experience, your just being anal (thats in the
>> >dictionary too, am I allowed to use that word?).
>> >
>> >I ask someone to reconsider this extremely harsh 72 hour suspension
>> >please.
>> >It should be 3 hours *tops* and even that is ridiculously unnecessary.
>> >I will not use the word pussy again, not even pussycat. Please
>> >reinstate the account I am paying you for.
>> >
>> >Thank you.
>> >
>> >
>> >account name: *******
>> >reply: ***********
>
> -----------------------------------------------
>
>> >From: WoWAccountAdmin@blizzard.com
>> >To: ****
>> >Subject: World of Warcraft - Account Issue
>> >Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:30:46 -0800
>> >
>> >Greetings,
>> >
>> >Thank you for taking the time to contact us regarding the World of
>> >Warcraft account you are using. We appreciate and understand your point
>> >of view, yet have to reiterate that all players participating in the
>> >World of Warcraft environment are required to adhere to the Terms of
>> >Use
>> >(<http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/termsofuse.shtml> ) at all times.
>> >
>> >Account Name: ****
>> >Server(s): ****
>> >Offense: Harassment Policy Violation - Inappropriate
>> >Details: (GMT) 1/27/2005 21:15 **** Say (]_337) ]>.[_].$.$.'/.
>> >
>> >With regards to the above account action, please review the World of
>> >Warcraft Harassment Policy at
>> >http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/policy/harassment.shtml. As you can see
>> >from the above information, using such language falls into the
>> >Inappropriate category. You will also notice that the suggested penalty
>> >for such actions is to be temporarily suspended from the game. While
>> >these repercussions may seem harsh, we feel very strongly that this
>> >language has no place within the world of Azeroth due to its extremely
>> >offensive nature. Therefore, we regret to inform you that we are unable
>> >to reduce or reverse the account action previously issued.
>> >
>> >We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused and hope this
>> >has resolved any concerns you may have had. Please let us know if we
>> >can be of further assistance to you.
>> >
>> >Thank you for your time and patience in this matter.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >****
>> >Account Administration
>> >Blizzard Entertainment
>> >
>> >Customer satisfaction is a top priority here at Blizzard Entertainment,
>> >and we would like your feedback on the level of service you have
>> >received.
>> >Please feel free to provide such feedback at the following web address:
>> >****
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ****
>>To: WoWAccountAdmin@blizzard.com
>>Sent: 1/28/2005 11:18:53 AM
>>Subject: RE: World of Warcraft - Account Issue
>>
>>I state again that you are out of line to do this, even in terms of
> what is posted on your website and the link you replied to me with. I
> quote:
>>
>>"* Obscene/Vulgar
>>This category includes both clear and masked language which:
>>- Is an inappropriate reference to human anatomy or bodily functions
>>- Is pornographic in nature
>>
>>*If a player is found to have used such language, he/she may:
>>Be given a warning"
>>
>>.....You know very well that when I said "pussy" I meant "wimp" or
> "gutless"
>>and not a reference to a woman's anatomy. Words have many different
> definitions. Please tell me, will I be suspended again if I use the
> word "Bush" when refering to a plant? You guys have your minds in the
> gutter and are obviously just looking for excuses to suspend people.
>>
>>Besides all that.... it says that a player will "Be given a warning"
> on the link you provided me. What warning did I receive???? The GM
> wouldnt even talk to me or tell me what I had done wrong, in fact I
> was positive it was a mistake.
>>
>>Besides all that... and granted this is a minor thing, but what I
> wrote wasnt in english!! You are making an assumption that it even
> says what you think it says.....
>>
>>I say again... Please reinstate me or credit me for 3 days. This
> suspension is harsh and represents you *violating what is written on
> your own website*.
>>I am a thirty year old mature adult, I am the least of your problems.
> Please show me that your not running a completely mindless system and
> are capable of some thought.
>>
>>Thank you.
>
> -------------------------------------
>
>>From: <wowaccountadmin@blizzard.com>
>>To: ****
>>Subject: World of Warcraft - Account Issue
>>Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:39:58 -0800
>>
>>Greetings,
>>
>>Thank you for the follow-up email. The Obscene Vulgar and
> Inappropriate policy(s) has been violated and as a result the action
> taken on the account will not be reduced or reversed. Thank you.
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>****
>>Account Administration
>>Blizzard Entertainment
>
> -------------------------------------
>
> I plead for someone who is more senior to review this matter.
>
> I say again.... it is YOU who have violated YOUR "Obscene Vulgar and
> Inppropirate policy(s)." Please correct me if I am incorrect. I will
> quote them again:
>
> """"""
> * Obscene/Vulgar
> This category includes both clear and masked language which:
> - Is an inappropriate reference to human anatomy or bodily functions
> - Is pornographic in nature
>
> *If a player is found to have used such language, he/she may:
> Be given a warning
> """"""
>
> ....There was NO warning and NO reference to human anatomy.
>
> ....I ask again, if I say the word "bush" in game while referring to a
> 'plant' or 'being lame' will I be punished?
>
> ....And I ask that you forward my emails to a manager or someone in a
> position to think not someone that sends form letters mindlessly.
>
> As an end note, you have completely turned me off WoW and reconfirmed
> my doubts about Blizzard. I purchased Everquest2 this afternoon
> because of the annoyance and lack of response you have given me, not
> to mention the queues. If you are trying to drive customers away -
> well done.
>
> I intend to follow this through until you "make good on your words"
> (see quote above).
>
> PLEASE FORWARD THIS ENTIRE THREAD TO SOMEONE AUTHORIZED TO MAKE
> DECISIONS. I will be calling on Monday to follow up (despite the fact
> that my suspension ends Sunday). I would appreciate a real answer not
> a minimum-wage-form-letter-go-away answer.

I see a lot of people taking Blizzards side on this, but Id be willing to
bet hard cash that if they were being banned they would sing a different
tune.
Since when is "pussy" inappropriate language?

I see it over and over in the Blizzard forums, when someone gets unfairly
treated, everyone else likes to jump on the cheer blizzard bandwagon,
regardless of the rights or wrongs of the particular case.
If you think Blizzard did the right thing here, then you are a jerk. Just my
2c.

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"Vladesch" <vladeschxxxx@bigxxxxxpond.net.auxxx> wrote in message
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> I see it over and over in the Blizzard forums, when someone gets unfairly
> treated, everyone else likes to jump on the cheer blizzard bandwagon,
> regardless of the rights or wrongs of the particular case.

No one has fanboys quite like Blizzard does. For crying out loud, the
company used spyware on its customers and still they defended them lol. I'm
sure that some of these guys would continue to defend the company even if
they made TV cameras and rectal probes a standard part of installation.

Having said that, I agree that the company has a right to enforce its
standards any way it wants to. I wouldn't have suspended anyone for using
the term "pussy", but I wouldn't bitch about it if I got nabbed doing it
either.

--
Bob Perez

"Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they
quit playing."
- Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes

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Tim Smith <reply_in_group@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
] After about 5 minutes of Googling, I was unable to find anything on the
] origin of using "pussy" to mean wimpy. I can see it going either way.
] That is, both the feline meaning and the vulgar reference to women meaing
] would work as ways to call a man weak or wimpy. Pussy seems to be a
] versatile word here. :-)

Hmm. I know several people online who call their cats 'pussy', no
double entendres meant. It has meant coward, it can also mean
something derogatory. Googling doesn't always get all of the
meanings of a word.

JimP.
--
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D.J. <jolly73@boingcableone.net> wrote:
] Matt Frisch <matuse73@yahoo.spam.me.not.com> wrote:
] ] There are women who consider that to be an "endearing name"?
]
] "Whats up Pussycat ?" a move made some years ago. It wasn't
] considered dirty.

sorry, not move, but a movie.

Jimp.
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Michael Vondung <mvondung@gmail.com> wrote in
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> On 29 Jan 2005 22:14:50 -0800, Dennis wrote:
>
>> PLEASE FORWARD THIS ENTIRE THREAD TO SOMEONE AUTHORIZED TO MAKE
>> DECISIONS. I will be calling on Monday to follow up (despite
the fact
>> that my suspension ends Sunday).
>
> You need to call. Your letter won't be forwarded, and you will
not get
> any satisfactory response via email. Your only option is to
call, if
> you feel strongly about it, and try to get a supervisor. It's
crucial
> that you stay calm, though. If you are emotional, you lose.
Also, your
> focus should not be the reactivation of the account (this makes
you
> look like a hopeless addict in their eyes, and the person you
will
> speak to won't be able to relate), but getting credit for the
three
> days of paid-for but lost service.
>
> M.
>

This is untrue - ask Twofeathers on Graffe's. He felt his
name was unfairly changed (he's a Tauren shaman) and emailed.

They reviewed it and changed it back for him.

Most inconsistency in enforcement comes from the vagaries of
reporting -- since they depend on players policing this stuff
and reporting it.

--
Arch Convoker Mairelon Snapbang
Feral Lord Bosra Snowclaw
Lanys T'vyl (Retired)

Mairelon, 15th Paladin
Silverhand

My WoW Mods: http://therealorang.com
Yes, FlexBar 1.24 is out

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>anyone older than the age of 8 can tell the difference in, for lack of a
>word, severity between "pussy" and "bush".

I disagree. The use of the word "pussy" to describe a wimp is
not vulgar or obscene.

C//

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"Palindrome" <damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message


<Snip>


It's a shame that the word "palindrome" isn't one. ? ;o)

Elrikk

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 07:30:18 -0800, Courageous <dontwant@spam.com>
wrote:

>
>>anyone older than the age of 8 can tell the difference in, for lack of a
>>word, severity between "pussy" and "bush".
>
>I disagree. The use of the word "pussy" to describe a wimp is
>not vulgar or obscene.

So, you'd use that in mixed company?


Palindrome

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"Dennis" <spliffeh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: ****
> > >To: WoWAccountAdmin@blizzard.com
> > >Sent: 1/27/2005 6:24:15 PM
> > >Subject: Suspension Appeal
> > >

<snip whiney drivel>

First, let me off you some cheese to go with your whine.

second, GOOD FOR BLIZZARD.

1. you clearly went around the filter to get your "statement" across

2. you WERE warned (read the rules/terms)

3. don't try to spoon-feed us these bullshit definitions and story changes
trying to justify your delusion. you used a derogatory term that you knew
was blocked (see point 1).

4. no, i don't play WoW, but I played EQ, UO and a few others and frankly
players like you RUIN THE GAME.

5. YOU WERE WRONG.

so g0 b@ck +0 p|_@yInG uR d00d GaMeZ and cry to someone who cares. pu55y

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|
|
|>but getting credit for the three days of paid-for but lost
|>service.
|
|
| Won't happen. He violated the terms of the service contract he agreed
| to.
|

I don't think think I would say it "won't" happen (whiners,
unfortunately tend to get their way), but I do agree that it "shouldn't"
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"Vladesch" <vladeschxxxx@bigxxxxxpond.net.auxxx> wrote in message
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> Since when is "pussy" inappropriate language?
>
i've been using the internet for over 12 years...and this may be the dumbest
statement ive ever seen.

lee

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spliffeh@hotmail.com (Dennis) wrote in news:3e397d54.0501292214.3a00a017
@posting.google.com:

>> >You guys gave me a 72 hour suspension without warning for using the
>> >word pussy? And in leet speak no less? Is this a method of conserving
>> >bandwidth???? Handing out ridiculous 3 day suspensions without warning,
>> >for use of a word thats in the dictionary??? This does not improve
>> >anyone's gaming experience, your just being anal (thats in the
>> >dictionary too, am I allowed to use that word?).

On my server it would have been longer than 3 days. What difference does it
make that its in a dictionary since you obviusly didnt use it in other than
a cursing way.

Especially for use of leet speak. After all, what is that other than
recognition that the word might be banned or blocked so its an effort to
get around the rules.

Language controls are a great thing. They have been proven to raise the
average age of the player base

Gandalf Parker

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:06:59 +0100 in
<dbw3yyhscu6g$.vzog0jimqwgi.dlg@40tude.net>, Michael Vondung
<mvondung@gmail.com> graced the world with this thought:


>
>I'm under the impression that he intended to call someone a coward, and
>"pussy" is an OK word for that, in my opinion. If he had called the person
>a "cunt" or some such, that'd be different.

You may want to attempt to lend a little consistency to your thinking.

No offense, of course.

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Lee Watkins wrote:
> "Vladesch" <vladeschxxxx@bigxxxxxpond.net.auxxx> wrote in message
> newsg1Ld.141195$K7.138990@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>> Since when is "pussy" inappropriate language?
>>
> i've been using the internet for over 12 years...and this may be the
> dumbest statement ive ever seen.
>
> lee

You must have been using the internet *very* sparingly over that 12 years
then.

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chainbreaker

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 08:53:41 GMT in
<pg1Ld.141195$K7.138990@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, "Vladesch"
<vladeschxxxx@bigxxxxxpond.net.auxxx> graced the world with this
thought:

>Since when is "pussy" inappropriate language?

As soon as someone complained about it, if not sooner.

Do you have kids? Do you mind if they scream that other kids are
pussies? I'd smack the piss out of my kid if he/she talked like that.

Besides, the TOS is the TOS. If it says "people with red hair can't
play, and they find out you have red hair and take your account away,
it's your fault, not theirs.
Haven't we done all the stupid excuses for boorish behavior already,
or the last five years, or didn't any of that sink in?

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 07:48:01 -0600 in
<8appv05f64e19msukpe1i5gskolblg18v4@4ax.com>, D.J.
<jolly73@boingcableone.net> graced the world with this thought:

>
>Matt Frisch <matuse73@yahoo.spam.me.not.com> wrote:
>] There are women who consider that to be an "endearing name"?
>
>"Whats up Pussycat ?" a move made some years ago. It wasn't
>considered dirty.
>


What's that got to do with anything? I think if the title were "What's
Up Pussy?" it would have been different subject matter, perhaps a porn
movie.

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Michael Vondung <mvondung@gmail.com> wrote:

>the issue here is not their vulgarity policy, but the random ways
>in which they enforce it.

>So, in short, the issue here is inconsistency and a lack of
>transparency.

Easily explained by the simple economic fact of finite resources.


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"Scotter" <spam@spam.com> wrote:

>When someone says, "You pussy," at least in the English-speaking subcultures
>I've lived in, they 99% of the time mean, "You wimp" or "You coward". This
>word has been used for so long to mean this when in certain contexts, that I
>believe for many people it has lost any sexual connotation, whether you are
>trying to say it has something to do with the speaker being called a female
>or a reference to the vagina.

A typically uninformed male perspective.

>And I really hope the whole "leetspeak" fad really is a dying fad

On that we agree.


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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:11:18 GMT, "El Durango" <El_Durango@yah00.c0m>
wrote:

>I am not defending this guys actions but honestly suppose this happened to
>you, what would you think of it and would you shrug it off or be bitter. I
>personally would be puzzled about something so inane causing me to be banned
>for 3 days.

The majority of us wouldn't be puzzled

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences, rightly or
wrongly.

Palindrome

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:21:30 -0800, Courageous <dontwant@spam.com>
wrote:

>A recognized use of the word, defined thus:
>
>"A man regarded as weak, timid, or unmanly."
>
>http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pussy

Unmanly, as in womanly, as in possessing a vagina.

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"Dennis" <spliffeh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> >-----Original Message-----


> I plead for someone who is more senior to review this matter.
>
> I say again.... it is YOU who have violated YOUR "Obscene Vulgar and
> Inppropirate policy(s)." Please correct me if I am incorrect. I will
> quote them again:
>
> """"""
> * Obscene/Vulgar
> This category includes both clear and masked language which:
> - Is an inappropriate reference to human anatomy or bodily functions
> - Is pornographic in nature
>
> *If a player is found to have used such language, he/she may:
> Be given a warning
> """"""
>
> ....There was NO warning and NO reference to human anatomy.

"Pussy" is used more as an anatomical reference than every other usage
combined. You knew how it would be taken when you chose it, regardless of
alternate meaning. You tried to be slick and get away with a double
entendre, and you got stomped for it. Stop whining and trying to sea-lawyer
your way out of it.

> ....I ask again, if I say the word "bush" in game while referring to a
> 'plant' or 'being lame' will I be punished?

While there is a sexual connotation to bush, the common meaning is a
reference to vegitation. What's the common meaning to pussy? If you say
anything but a vagina, then you're not being honest.

> ....And I ask that you forward my emails to a manager or someone in a
> position to think not someone that sends form letters mindlessly.

I will lose all respect for Blizzard if they overturn your ass-kicking.

> As an end note, you have completely turned me off WoW and reconfirmed
> my doubts about Blizzard. I purchased Everquest2 this afternoon
> because of the annoyance and lack of response you have given me, not
> to mention the queues. If you are trying to drive customers away -
> well done.

I beta-tested and played EQ2. While it may be a better game, if you're
going to EQ2 just because you're upset that you were asked to pay the price
for your stupidity... well, then WoW is the better for it.

> I intend to follow this through until you "make good on your words"
> (see quote above).
>
> PLEASE FORWARD THIS ENTIRE THREAD TO SOMEONE AUTHORIZED TO MAKE
> DECISIONS. I will be calling on Monday to follow up (despite the fact
> that my suspension ends Sunday). I would appreciate a real answer not
> a minimum-wage-form-letter-go-away answer.

You don't deserve anything better.