Posting trouble, need help

[TheAntipop]

I just received my GlobalWin FOP 32-1 and installed it with much pain on my part (several cuts, bloody hands, etc.) Before I did this however, I penciled in the L1 bridges with a BIC mechanical 0.7mm 2 pencil, being careful not to cross over to the L2 bridges. I intended to overclock my Thunderbird 800, but decided it would be a good idea to first set up the jumpers on my A7V for an 800 (it was previously on JumperFree Mode). So after double checking every jumper adn consulting the latest jumper info on Asus' website, I turned it on. My computer no longer posts, it has lost that characteristic "beep" to let me know that its on. I tried upping the voltage (from 1.75 to 1.8) just to make sure it was getting enough juice, but same thing. I double checked my RAM and rechecked my jumpers but they are all correct. Is there something I am overlooking here? I havent even tried to overclock, just keeping it AT rated clock speed. Please help, Id rather have a working 800 than a non-useable o/c. I dont see it being a problem with being off JumperFree Mode (and yes, i did switch the JEN jumper to off). Thanks in advance.

TBird 800 - Asus A7V 1005a
256 PC133 - Maxtor 45GB ATA100
Radeon 32DDR - SB Live MP3+

 

[JOJO]

Is the LED on the board lighting up?

If not,

Could be a loose power cable somewhere, or you might have accidentally switched the voltage or whatever switch that is at the back of the power supply.

Or the ATX power plug coulda come loose...but u may have already checked all that...

Hmm...

 

[TheAntipop]

OK, i checked and yes the LED light is on, also when i turn the power on, my cd rom drives are checked (the read lights flash) and my network card light shows a link, i checked the ata connection to my hard drive but it still wont post, as a last resort i tried it with the JEN jumper completely off but still nothin, this is really confusing me

TBird 800 - Asus A7V 1005a
256 PC133 - Maxtor 45GB ATA100
Radeon 32DDR - SB Live MP3+

 

[JOJO]

well, at least the board is getting power,

when i've been messing around sometime, i've knocked the ram abit and sometimes the slightest bump will mess it up, so try taking out and re-inserting your ram.

 

[TheSandman]

Have you tried anything above 1.8v. If not try 1.85 and or 1.9.

SANDMAN

 

[Bubba]

Since you had so much trouble getting the HSF on, did you crack the core? Maybe you should take it off to make sure it isn't busted.

Also you may want to bend the silver clip so that it is easier to get on and doesn't put so much pressure on the core. I have posted this suggestion in several other threads.

I ain't seen a beating like that since somebody stuck a banana in my pants and turned a monkey loose

 

[TheAntipop]

i tried that, ill try again though
is it possible i somehow burnt my chip or screwed it up somehow? i think im gonna return everything to jumperfree to see if it at least works, i sure hope i didnt mess the chip up, i just got in an accident today and cant afford to buy another chip-- oh man what a bad day

TBird 800 - Asus A7V 1005a
256 PC133 - Maxtor 45GB ATA100
Radeon 32DDR - SB Live MP3+

 

[JOJO]

He's running at the default chip speed which means 1.75 volts should be fine, 1.9 volts isn't supported by the a7v.

 

[JOJO]

You could check the chip by running it in another board if avaliable or another chip in your board....

good luck

 

[TheAntipop]

neither of those are possible. well i turned everything to jumperfree and it still doesnt post, i check the core and it isnt cracked, i reapplied the pencil and made sure the thermal tape was in contact with the core, but no post. everything sounds just like normal when it first starts but im not getting a video signal and not getting a bios post, so should i let it try to post up for a little while longer? i dont think its very possible that i fried the chip considering i just installed a much bigger hsf than i had before.

TBird 800 - Asus A7V 1005a
256 PC133 - Maxtor 45GB ATA100
Radeon 32DDR - SB Live MP3+

 

[JOJO]

i'm guessing that you already tried re-seating the vid card and the cpu,.....how bout clearing the cmos?

umm....i'm at a loss....

 

[TheAntipop]

i havent tried reseating the cpu, could that be a problem? i mean those things have 462 pins, i didnt think they could go anywhere

i guesss ill clear the cmos if nothing else works, its lookin like im about to be another overclocking sucker...

TBird 800 - Asus A7V 1005a
256 PC133 - Maxtor 45GB ATA100
Radeon 32DDR - SB Live MP3+

 

[TheAntipop]

oh, does anyone know if the multiplier dip switches have to be turned any certain way for jumper free to work? it says nothing about them in the manual as far as jumper free is concerned, but i DID have to change them to get the multiplier to 800, just a thought

TBird 800 - Asus A7V 1005a
256 PC133 - Maxtor 45GB ATA100
Radeon 32DDR - SB Live MP3+

 

[JOJO]

did it run at all when you fired it up with the new heat sink? i don't think you would have fried it just by oc'ing it, but maybe by an improper heat sink installation.

But if it didn't even go for a few sec, that would make me suspect that there is a different problem....

 

[TheSandman]

Have you contacted asus tech support? I know tech support is not very usefull most of the time but I had a soyo board that would do the same things and it turned out the board had gone bad on me. Yes I know asus boards are better quality than soyo.



SANDMAN

 

[TheAntipop]

well i tried to install the hs and turn off JEN all on one power off. but it has not run once since i returned everything to JEN, remember, I never actually tried to over clock, i just went from jumper free at 800mhz to jumper mode at 800mhz and back--> should i try underclocking?
what kind of problem would someone get if they had a working computer and did nothing but take the ram out, cause i think it may be a ram problem
im gonna try to clear the cmos next, last hope

TBird 800 - Asus A7V 1005a
256 PC133 - Maxtor 45GB ATA100
Radeon 32DDR - SB Live MP3+

 

[TheAntipop]

my trouble sounds pretty close to this guys <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=625943#625943" target="_new">http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=625943#625943</A> -- do you think i should short the cmos to clear it? i think it worked for him, and his problem sounds almost exactly like mine, i hope it works

TBird 800 - Asus A7V 1005a
256 PC133 - Maxtor 45GB ATA100
Radeon 32DDR - SB Live MP3+

 

[TheSandman]

Give it a try shorting the cmos does not hurt anything just sets the default values. I hope it works for you.

SANDMAN

 

[TheAntipop]

well i tried and either i didnt get the screwdriver head to touch both at the same time, or my computer is just plain broke. im gonna give up for tonight but hopefully someone can give some holy grail advice that will work.

TBird 800 - Asus A7V 1005a
256 PC133 - Maxtor 45GB ATA100
Radeon 32DDR - SB Live MP3+

 

[phsstpok]

I am concerned about something you said, "I penciled in the L1 bridges with a BIC mechanical 0.7mm 2 pencil, being careful not to cross over to the L2 bridges."

The L2 bridges are to the right of the L1 bridges. There should be no way that you would accidently hit them with your pencil.

You didn't, by any chance, connect all the L1 bridges together with each other? That would cause the processor to malfunction. The bridges should only be connected, top to bottom, with your pencil. If you did make a mistake you can gently "erase" the extraneous graphite and try again.

Forgive me if I am wrong. Just trying to help.

 

[Bubba]

First, car accident? Is everyone alright?
Second, take your pencil and erase all pencil marks. Put the chip back in and connect everything up properly. Make sure the video card, ram, and all cables and wires are connectec properly. Then double check all of that. Then put the jumper that controls the jumper mode to off so that you don't use jumpers. Then put all the dipswitches to the off position.

See if you can get it to post. If not, then we can start looking at something else.

I ain't seen a beating like that since somebody stuck a banana in my pants and turned a monkey loose

 

[TheAntipop]

You didn't, by any chance, connect all the L1 bridges together with each other?

well, uh, yes. so that is my problem (i hope), thanks. so i can just use the eraser on the pencil? i have heard people talking about rubbing alcohol, should i use that to finish after erasing?
also, i have also determined that when I first went from jumperfree mode to jumper mode that i accidentally had one VCORE jumper in a position which would make an invalid setting:
Right way DSW1 [o o]o o ----Way I had it [o o]o o
----------DSW2 [o o]o o -----------------[o o]o o
----------DSW3 o[o o] o ----------------- o o[o o]
----------DSW4 [o o]o o -----------------[o o]o o
would this have just caused no voltage to reach the processor? or is it possible that it overflowed the core with voltage and fried it?

TBird 800 - Asus A7V 1005a
256 PC133 - Maxtor 45GB ATA100
Radeon 32DDR - SB Live MP3+

 

[TheAntipop]

oh and phsstpok, you were rigft, i meant the L3 bridges, not the L2
also, does anyone know where i can find a picture of how the L1 bridges are SUPPOSED to look? i think i need to find a .5mm lead because those bridges are so much smaller than Toms pictures would lead you to believe

TBird 800 - Asus A7V 1005a
256 PC133 - Maxtor 45GB ATA100
Radeon 32DDR - SB Live MP3+<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by TheAntipop on 01/13/01 01:11 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[JOJO]

i don't think u could've fried the processor with the voltage jumpers as the board will only go to a max of 1.85. which I used for a long time.

may have just given no voltage and hence no post....maybe...

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by jojo on 01/13/01 01:04 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[TheAntipop]

iT WORKED, the problem WAS that i was covering all of the L1 bridges together, thanks. i now have a working computer
well now that my computer works and is running at arond 32 degress C, vs 45 with my old cooler, I think im gonna look for a .5mm lead pencil and, you guessed it, try again

TBird 800 - Asus A7V 1005a
256 PC133 - Maxtor 45GB ATA100
Radeon 32DDR - SB Live MP3+