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Intel's Core i7-2630QM Sandy Bridge Spotted

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December 27, 2010 6:28:47 PM

Dang it Intel...Why does Asia have it beofre US? We engineered it, shouldn't we have it first hand?
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December 27, 2010 6:34:11 PM

dogman_1234Dang it Intel...Why does Asia have it beofre US? We engineered it, shouldn't we have it first hand?


cause of the US companies offshoring work to 3rd world countries to save money. Dont like that vote for people who will cut the capital gains and corporate taxes. That's ALWAYS stimulated growth in the economy because it makes doing business here CHEAPER.
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December 27, 2010 6:37:48 PM

I understand the outsourcing, and couldn't really vote for the idiot polititians at all. They are all crazy.

Anyways. The Intel team in Hillsboro Oregon, should be the ones to have it first hand. They should be able to sample their work.
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December 27, 2010 6:50:39 PM

2.0 ghz? Really? Lame. Hope they have better models in store for us.
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December 27, 2010 6:59:42 PM

edilee2.0 ghz? Really? Lame. Hope they have better models in store for us.


Yeah, because if the latest years showed us something it's that clock speed is the most important thing of all.
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December 27, 2010 7:03:33 PM

Yay, even newer chips that cost a small fortune and don't increase performance substantially over 3 year old chipsets. Maybe it's got some useless feature that sounds cool like HD stream decoding improvements.. Yawn.. :-/
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December 27, 2010 7:04:03 PM

Didn't clock speed have one of the biggest effects on plenty of games?
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December 27, 2010 7:07:14 PM

dogman_1234The Intel team in Hillsboro Oregon, should be the ones to have it first hand. They should be able to sample their work.

I'm sure that they do sample first, especially in beta testing. But as we all know, the employee who voluntarily/involuntarily leaks info about something they have doesn't last long at the company.

znegvalYeah, because if the latest years showed us something it's that clock speed is the most important thing of all.

Not to mention that many end users don't require the same enthusiast speeds and prices as edilee seems to. Let's all spend $500 on a processor to pull up google's search browser each day.
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December 27, 2010 7:11:45 PM

shin0bi272cause of the US companies offshoring work to 3rd world countries to save money. Dont like that vote for people who will cut the capital gains and corporate taxes. That's ALWAYS stimulated growth in the economy because it makes doing business here CHEAPER.


They use the tax cuts to buy new plants in the 3rd world... You need to tax imports. We will have a war with China in the next few decades, I would rather have an economical one...
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December 27, 2010 7:18:26 PM

TommySchThey use the tax cuts to buy new plants in the 3rd world... You need to tax imports. We will have a war with China in the next few decades, I would rather have an economical one...


In that case they'll completely relocate outside the US rather than just outsource. And if you tax cheap imports from China, get ready to pay double the amount for just about anything.
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December 27, 2010 7:19:58 PM

edilee2.0 ghz? Really? Lame. Hope they have better models in store for us.

If that processor beats a 4Ghz core i7 out now, I wouldn't mind a 2Ghz clock speed.

Processors need to lower their power consumption for laptops. Most people don't use the speed, and, personally, I would like a laptop to last about 24hrs without being plugged in.
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December 27, 2010 7:33:18 PM

HaserathIf that processor beats a 4Ghz core i7 out now, I wouldn't mind a 2Ghz clock speed.Processors need to lower their power consumption for laptops. Most people don't use the speed, and, personally, I would like a laptop to last about 24hrs without being plugged in.

It won't, though. Intel hasn't had enough time since the i7 launch to develop new architecture combined with a gpu to beat a single-job processor. This thing's doing 2 jobs in one, and while the power savings, and efficiency will improve drastically, it will be another few years until it surpasses the current system.
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December 27, 2010 7:35:58 PM

That processor won't be even close to i7 i920 running at 3.0Ghz let's say...just you know.
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December 27, 2010 7:36:32 PM

Turbo technology is joke, it overclocks only one core -> pretty useless.
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December 27, 2010 7:45:45 PM

Wow, 2ghz, that's amazing.
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December 27, 2010 7:54:09 PM

lradunovic77Turbo technology is joke, it overclocks only one core -> pretty useless.


I thought turbo technology had settings for overclocking multiple cores? It's just not clocked as high. For instance when three cores are active they are bumped down one multiplier below what the clocks read when two cores are active. Does that sound about right?
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December 27, 2010 8:02:22 PM

dogman_1234Dang it Intel...Why does Asia have it beofre US? We engineered it, shouldn't we have it first hand?

They make it available to everyone at the same time, the Chinese are just fist to get a product using it to market.
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December 27, 2010 8:03:04 PM

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If that processor beats a 4Ghz core i7 out now, I wouldn't mind a 2Ghz clock speed.


In the tests I've done to compare a core 2 quad with an i5-750 at equal clock speeds, the i5 showed a 15% improvement in power. If they gain another 15% from the i5's to the sandinyourtoes processor then they should have much higher clock speeds. Well if they can turbo boost from 2.0 to 2.8 then that's a good start. They need some chips that will turbo boost from 2.8 to about 3.8 for power users.

I've owned a lot of computers, including 3 laptops, and the only one that wasn't fast enough is the new overclocked quad core I have at home, so I'll take all the cpu power they can give me.
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December 27, 2010 8:25:39 PM

lradunovic77Turbo technology is joke, it overclocks only one core -> pretty useless.

touchdowntexas13I thought turbo technology had settings for overclocking multiple cores? It's just not clocked as high. For instance when three cores are active they are bumped down one multiplier below what the clocks read when two cores are active. Does that sound about right?

Yup.

For instance.

i5 750
1.2 Idle
2.66 stock
2.8 with ALL cores loaded as long as power and temperature are in check.
2.8 with 3 cores loaded
3.0 with 2 cores loaded
3.2 with one core loaded

Of course other apps can take an extra core and have a single core app get only 3.0, but its a FREE boost and you can disable it and just overclock the old fashioned way still or even use both to some extent(FSB + turbo multiplier).

So much for only one core being overclocked huh?
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December 27, 2010 8:37:28 PM

Anyone else notice that the GPU listed in the device manager screenshot is an "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570"? That's weird for two reasons:
1) I didn't know that card was available in any laptops yet.
2) I thought that the brand name was being changed from ATI to AMD starting with the 6xxx series.
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December 27, 2010 8:44:58 PM

segio526They make it available to everyone at the same time, the Chinese are just fist to get a product using it to market.

That is my point. If it is avalable to china , It should be avalable to everyone. Why dose China have Priority over everyone else?
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December 27, 2010 8:49:46 PM

nukemasterYup.For instance.i5 7501.2 Idle2.66 stock2.8 with ALL cores loaded as long as power and temperature are in check.2.8 with 3 cores loaded3.0 with 2 cores loaded3.2 with one core loadedOf course other apps can take an extra core and have a single core app get only 3.0, but its a FREE boost and you can disable it and just overclock the old fashioned way still or even use both to some extent(FSB + turbo multiplier).So much for only one core being overclocked huh?


Ya I thought that was how it worked. I have a 750 with both a modest overclock and turbo boost enabled. I think the frequency range on mine is approximately 3.0 - 3.6 GHz depending on the number of cores being used. I think it's a pretty cool feature. Of course a lot of people will argue that a static overclock is better, but I just don't need a machine running at a constant 3.6 GHz or higher.
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December 27, 2010 9:14:48 PM

dogman_1234That is my point. If it is avalable to china , It should be avalable to everyone. Why dose China have Priority over everyone else?

They dont have priority, they are just faster at getting it to market.
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December 27, 2010 9:24:00 PM

dogman_1234Dang it Intel...Why does Asia have it beofre US? We engineered it, shouldn't we have it first hand?

No you didn't...It is designed by the Intel lab in Israel.
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December 27, 2010 9:50:09 PM

BolbiAnyone else notice that the GPU listed in the device manager screenshot is an "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570"? That's weird for two reasons:1) I didn't know that card was available in any laptops yet.2) I thought that the brand name was being changed form ATI to AMD starting with the 6xxx series.


Yeah still useless cause in realtime Turbo Overclock will give way below results of what true overclocking does and that's all cores overclocked all the time. For Laptops Turbo Overclock makes sense, but for desktop utter crap. Infact i suggest keeping CPU on desktop at full speed all the time.
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December 27, 2010 9:52:13 PM

BolbiAnyone else notice that the GPU listed in the device manager screenshot is an "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570"? That's weird for two reasons:1) I didn't know that card was available in any laptops yet.2) I thought that the brand name was being changed form ATI to AMD starting with the 6xxx series.


nukemasterYup.For instance.i5 7501.2 Idle2.66 stock2.8 with ALL cores loaded as long as power and temperature are in check.2.8 with 3 cores loaded3.0 with 2 cores loaded3.2 with one core loadedOf course other apps can take an extra core and have a single core app get only 3.0, but its a FREE boost and you can disable it and just overclock the old fashioned way still or even use both to some extent(FSB + turbo multiplier).So much for only one core being overclocked huh?


Yeah still useless cause in realtime Turbo Overclock will give way below results of what true overclocking does and that's all cores overclocked all the time. For Laptops Turbo Overclock makes sense, but for desktop utter crap. Infact i suggest keeping CPU on desktop at full speed all the time.
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December 27, 2010 9:56:57 PM

With Sandy Bridge 'FSB' is locked so Intel can force Turbo Garbage. K series has unlocked multiplier but for what price? I have no idea why they have two sockets for the current i7 line and for the future Sandy Bridge. LGA1156 and LGA1366 sockets are about same price, and as far as CPU goes hell of better deal you can get with LGA1366 socket. Future Sandy Bridge is going to have LGA1155 and LGAXXXX versions. Intel just introduced LGA1156 and they are saying well you can throw that to garbage cause we have new motherboard with -1 pin. They have to be kidding me.
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December 27, 2010 10:07:50 PM

shin0bi272cause of the US companies offshoring work to 3rd world countries to save money. Dont like that vote for people who will cut the capital gains and corporate taxes. That's ALWAYS stimulated growth in the economy because it makes doing business here CHEAPER.

Labor and benefits costs way more than taxes ever do. Especially for large companies like intel who can lobby senators/reps to get their local, state and gov't taxes reduced to lower percentages than what small businesses and individuals pay. In their last quarter about 1/3 of their money went to material costs, another third to operating expenses (payroll, benefits, equipment etc). Only ~1/11th of revenues was lost to taxation (which was about 31% of EBIT). Intel saves far more by cutting employee and raw material costs than it ever does by shaving a few percentage points off of their tax rate. Intel manufactures in asia because they can get 1 month of work out of an employee there for the same amount it costs to pay for 1 day of work out of a US employee.
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December 27, 2010 10:14:53 PM

lradunovic77Yeah still useless cause in realtime Turbo Overclock will give way below results of what true overclocking does and that's all cores overclocked all the time. For Laptops Turbo Overclock makes sense, but for desktop utter crap. Infact i suggest keeping CPU on desktop at full speed all the time.


"Utter crap" lol. You must be playing the fool here. No one is arguing that if you want the most performance then you go for a static overclock. But for those that don't need a constant high clock rate, turbo boost is a GREAT feature.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i5-750-efficie...

When I built and overclocked my computer, I kept referring to this article so that my processor was running as efficiently as possible. I won't be setting a faster static overclock until there is a game that my 750 can't handle. Until then, I will keep the slight overclock and turbo boost combo.
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December 27, 2010 11:00:42 PM

shin0bi272cause of the US companies offshoring work to 3rd world countries to save money. Dont like that vote for people who will cut the capital gains and corporate taxes. That's ALWAYS stimulated growth in the economy because it makes doing business here CHEAPER.

Yeah or stop giving companies that manufacture offshore breaks by excluding them from import tariffs. That way you can have your cake and eat it too by not having to vote republican to get companies to stop screwing over Americans.
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December 27, 2010 11:09:10 PM

lradunovic77With Sandy Bridge 'FSB' is locked so Intel can force Turbo Garbage. K series has unlocked multiplier but for what price? I have no idea why they have two sockets for the current i7 line and for the future Sandy Bridge. LGA1156 and LGA1366 sockets are about same price, and as far as CPU goes hell of better deal you can get with LGA1366 socket. Future Sandy Bridge is going to have LGA1155 and LGAXXXX versions. Intel just introduced LGA1156 and they are saying well you can throw that to garbage cause we have new motherboard with -1 pin. They have to be kidding me.

The base clock is not locked, just tied to all the bus frequencies, so by raising that, you are overclocking your USB, SATA etc. That won't work, of course.

And you complain about Intel sockets. I don't think you know about AMD! They had four incompatible sockets for K8, and some will tell you that the current processors are also K8, making that number six, although three of them are semi-compatible. Anyway, the chipset in an older board won't support a newer processor, so why complain? Better to have to get a newer board to make the CPU fit than fry it in an incompatible older MB with the same socket!
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December 27, 2010 11:31:47 PM

Lots of folks comparing this mobile CPU to desktop models. If we put this back into perspective, the fastest mobile quad core of the previous generation is Core i7 940XM @ 2.13 GHz. So we have the low end mobile quad-core Sandy Bridge at almost the speed of the top enthusiast Nehalem mobile quad-core model. I think this is a good deal.
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December 27, 2010 11:48:16 PM

Everyone should remember that 2.0 Ghz was the clock rate of the OLD INTEL CORE i7 EXTREME. The fact that this is now in their medium-range CPU shows a lot of progress (since this is going to be a lot cheaper than the old Extreme processor). The fact that it'll go to 2.9 Ghz with all 4 cores on (with enough cooling) is great too! Keep in mind that the typical processor speed during heavy usage will probably be north of 2.5 Ghz (it just slows down to 2 Ghz if it's getting really hot or if the computer's not being used). Can't wait to see the Sandy Bridge extreme model
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December 28, 2010 12:17:40 AM

znegvalYeah, because if the latest years showed us something it's that clock speed is the most important thing of all.


Single threaded performance is what counts for system responsiveness unless you are doing a lot of things at once :) 

GHZ is good.
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December 28, 2010 1:32:46 AM

The new HP's with Sandy Bridge are showing up here in the US as well. Someone on the notebookreview forum just picked up an HP dv7-4290us with i7-2630QM at a Micro Center store. It's also listed on their website and in stock. http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml... I'm holding out for an HP Envy 17 3D refresh with Sandy Bridge.
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December 28, 2010 2:44:10 AM

PreferLinuxNo you didn't...It is designed by the Intel lab in Israel.


Sandy Bridge too? Was thinking only the "Core" technology were.
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December 28, 2010 3:17:49 AM

2ghz? It's a quad core in a laptop, what do you guys expect?
I look forward to see the battery life!
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December 28, 2010 3:55:19 AM

TNM2ghz? It's a quad core in a laptop, what do you guys expect?I look forward to see the battery life!


I just hope the high end chips can have all four cores clocked way up for laptops that can handle the heat.!
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December 28, 2010 7:20:23 AM

Well, for all the policy makers out there, here's a little more info on the importing taxation policy , and , this is standard stuff all over the world, every country has a domestic law allowing you to send and receive stuff within your company without taxes being paid.... :)  so if goods were being manufactured abroad, they'd be paying only the taxes to the local authority where the plants were located..... within the company there is no taxation so, when produced abroad, they can be shipped to any of the global office of the corporate as internal shipping..... :) 
That's the main reason why stuff being produced abroad is such a hell of a lot cheaper than it being produced within our own countries..... since labor abroad is cheap, so are resources and plus taxation is minimal.....
How do you think a family of survives with 2 meals a day in India in about 150 USD? and less than a 100USD in China.....
This policy has been going on for donkey's years now, it's just a loophole that nearly every company with foreign branches uses to make money.....
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December 28, 2010 8:08:46 AM

Hope to see a real review on this one.
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December 28, 2010 9:12:40 AM

znegvalYeah, because if the latest years showed us something it's that clock speed is the most important thing of all.

It is until software developers actually start writing their apps based on the number of cores each system has.
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December 28, 2010 9:27:29 AM

PreferLinuxNo you didn't...It is designed by the Intel lab in Israel.


Ah, but we made the fabrication process that enables this little gem here in Oregon.
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December 28, 2010 3:30:57 PM

FYI: Microcenter has this for sale RIGHT NOW in a HP DV7
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December 28, 2010 8:04:41 PM

Any news about the GPU
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December 29, 2010 12:49:30 AM

I know for a fact that Intel put a block to distributor where there is proper law in place (where they can abuse the law and excert their power as they wish).
For example, here in Australia, their new Sandy Bridge chip are available already at almost the same time as Malaysia or Singapore or China, only to have Intel threaten distributor with hefty legal penalty (approx AU$100.000 fine). They have no choice but withdraw all the product from the market, awaiting Intel launch announcement on 9 January.

They have little control of the law in the country where the legal system is quite weak in term of acknowleding such thing as NDA or similar thing, hence early sell of their product.

Also one of the reason I'm hoping for AMD to lift their game and produce supoerior alternative like they did in the past so Intel cannot maintain this bad practice. Monopoly is always bad for consumer...
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December 29, 2010 12:56:00 PM

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Dang it Intel...Why does Asia have it beofre US? We engineered it, shouldn't we have it first hand?


its a leaked product, besides, the US have third world countries to do all the test firing to see if things blow up. Its safer to see things blow up at a distance and take notes for errors :lol: 
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December 29, 2010 7:57:45 PM

I'm not too sure about the mobile processors, but the desktop versions will totally kick ass. I'm in for one i7-2600K when it comes out next week. That will overtake the i7-950 as best bang for your buck if the price is really $300 like everyone says it is. I'm really looking forward to what the integrated GPU can do.
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December 30, 2010 12:55:37 AM

AMD FOREVER!!!
sorry but i rather have the Bulldozer (chatchy name)
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December 30, 2010 1:32:59 PM

agnickolov said:
Lots of folks comparing this mobile CPU to desktop models.


Obviously the fence broke around the n00b compound and now they are galloping around loose posting silly comments :p ..

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If we put this back into perspective, the fastest mobile quad core of the previous generation is Core i7 940XM @ 2.13 GHz. So we have the low end mobile quad-core Sandy Bridge at almost the speed of the top enthusiast Nehalem mobile quad-core model. I think this is a good deal.


Me too. I'll wait for some reviews but this sounds good to me as I need a replacement lappy..
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