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April 6, 2012 3:51:07 AM

I loved Diablo II and spent many moons looting, exploring, leveling up, and doing it all over again. At first I was very excited about Diablo III and all news associated with it. Now, it dawns on me that this game seems a little dated in the wake of Skyrim, The Witcher 2, and other really interactive RPGs. It definately looks like an improvement on Diablo II, but is it enough? I think we are beyond just mindless slaying and hunting for treasure. Thoughts?

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April 6, 2012 4:10:14 AM

Some people enjoy mindless slaying of monsters. Including me.

Don't compare apples and tomatoes... they have different purposes even if both are fruits.
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April 6, 2012 4:22:59 AM

I don't think it's that dungeon crawling hack and slash games are necessarily dated, but Torchlight 2 looks infinitely more promising in the genre. D3 seems like a market research vehicle for blizzard to explore alternative revenue means and eventually incorporate them into Titan if they're successful. The game itself is not very impressive =/.
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April 6, 2012 4:53:32 AM

The real question is how hard Inferno really is going to be, especially in solo.
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April 6, 2012 7:50:38 AM

casualcolors said:
I don't think it's that dungeon crawling hack and slash games are necessarily dated, but Torchlight 2 looks infinitely more promising in the genre. D3 seems like a market research vehicle for blizzard to explore alternative revenue means and eventually incorporate them into Titan if they're successful. The game itself is not very impressive =/.


So true ... =/
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April 6, 2012 8:25:23 AM

skyrim and witcher 2 are third person games
diablo has birds eye view

i think torchlight already revealed that mindless slaying of monsters was still fun

i have not played the beta but if there is no skill tree and online is required then these are the only things that will cause people to lose interest
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April 6, 2012 9:59:34 PM

I believe Fate then Torchlight were the best of the Diablo 2 clones and actually improved on it. I still play the original Fate once in awhile for some mindless hack and slash..
Dave
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April 7, 2012 4:35:21 AM

Sacred was like Diablo II, loved it, Sacred 2 also, Fate, Fate 2, Daggerfall and Morrowind... But Diablo III has been in development stages for years, way before even Oblivion and Elder Scrolls has been improving on First Person/Third person view for a LOOONNGG time. (I still have an original copy of Elder Scrolls Arena on 3 1/2" Floppy) this game along with original AD&D games that got me into Diablo in the first place. Will still buy it, it is something that I passed at least 1500 Hours playing so I will continue to play, even if Skyrim makes me drool when I play, HAHAHA
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April 7, 2012 6:15:40 AM

Even when Diablo I and II were released, there was Skyrim type games. They aren't really the same genre.

Frankly, I think we should go back to the roots of gaming a little more. Simple mindless games are a lot more fun than dev's realize. Look at Angry Birds as an example.
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April 7, 2012 1:56:44 PM

You have a good point. Sometimes games are so complicated and detailed that to complete the game seems overwhelming. I was just thinking about great leaps in series such as GTA II to GTA III or Fallout 2 to Fallout 3. I'm just hoping it's going to be more than a Titan Quest (exaclty like Diablo II but better graphics). Maybe I just need to be expected a simpler, fun game.
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April 7, 2012 2:22:26 PM

One of the most indicative facts of where Blizzard stands these days, is that Diablo 3 has been in production for almost a decade, and the only two real innovations that the game has seen has been online-only DRM a la standard for Blizzard these days, and an auction house that utilizes real money of which Blizzard skims a percentage for themselves.

Cannot stress how much better Torchlight 2 is looking.
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April 7, 2012 5:32:30 PM

Besides Torchlight 2 pre-orders for less than half the price of Diablo III. However, it's an underdog. Diablo is a brand that's burned into peoples mind and therefore will prevail. No matter how bad/good it will be.
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April 7, 2012 7:34:56 PM

rattman169 said:
this game along with original AD&D games that got me into Diablo in the first place. HAHAHA


I wonder how many people still even know what AD&D is/was? I used to play the real AD&D before they were video games. It was fun because if you had the modules you already knew where the good items were located since the video games just copy and pasted from the modules.

As to Diablo 3, I guess I might to try if my brothers do.
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April 7, 2012 7:43:54 PM

Trialsking said:
I wonder how many people still even know what AD&D is/was? I used to play the real AD&D before they were video games. It was fun because if you had the modules you already knew where the good items were located since the video games just copy and pasted from the modules.

As to Diablo 3, I guess I might to try if my brothers do.


About a year ago, I was at a customers home and noticed things like Chainmail and flails decorating the home. The husband and wife even had a AD&D board setup for table top AD&D. That was the first I had seen people who played pin and paper AD&D in about 20 years.
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April 8, 2012 3:15:09 AM

I still have the original D&D (Not advanced) box sets, plus the original print AD&D hard cover role playing books with dice (Also still have Dragonlance, Palladium, Rifts, Recon, TMNT, Heroes unlimited and many more role playing books). But yeah, sometimes we just need to play mindless, less complicated games with less story and just simple hack and slash. I like simple sometimes, other times I like to figure stuff out and really get into a story.
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April 8, 2012 3:17:34 AM

Trialsking said:
I wonder how many people still even know what AD&D is/was? I used to play the real AD&D before they were video games. It was fun because if you had the modules you already knew where the good items were located since the video games just copy and pasted from the modules.

As to Diablo 3, I guess I might to try if my brothers do.


I also played some of the AD&D board games. But wasn't it great when the pc game Pool of Radiance came out back in the late 80's? Then the Eye of the Beholder series.
Dave
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April 8, 2012 3:32:49 AM

I literally have in my hands All 12 Forgotten Realms Titles in a 4cd collector's edition.... as it says on the case, it has Pool Of Radiance, Curse Of The Azure Bonds, Secret Of The Silver Blades, Pool Of Darkness and Hillsfar on 1 disc, Eye Of The Beholder 1,2 and 3 plus Special Demo of Blood & Magic on 2nd disc, Dungeon Hack, Gateway To The Savage Frontier and Treasures Of The Savage Frontier on 3rd disc, last disc has Menzoberranzan and that one was my favorite.
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April 8, 2012 4:57:53 AM

stillerfan15 said:
I also played some of the AD&D board games. But wasn't it great when the pc game Pool of Radiance came out back in the late 80's? Then the Eye of the Beholder series.
Dave


Thats exactly the game I was referring to when I said you could use the modules as cheat guides!

Sorry I totally hijacked this threat!
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April 8, 2012 11:35:37 PM

I played the DB3 beta so far it seems like a nice game. But, to me it seemed very much like a one time and done game. I did barbarian,necro,demon hunter. very fun I do say. plus the talent system is nice although it's very uncustomizable. you get your spells and are locked to certain ones in certain places as far as what I've figure out so far. But, it is still an outdated game even though it's not released yet. the graphics and such nothing was at all special. The style very much like every game. kill *** get gear kill more ***. beat bosses etc etc. But, that's what we all love to do kill stuff =)
what makes game different is how things die and or are killed.
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July 18, 2012 9:19:13 PM

You guys should check a new awesome game that it's in development, called Path of Exile, right now being in Closed Beta ( will open in around 1 or 2 months )

It has the hack&slash&loot mechanics, with some twists, and awesome dark modern graphics. I think it actually looks much better than Diablo III itself.

http://www.pathofexile.com/

I think this one has the chance of becoming the best game of the genre (so far)
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July 19, 2012 5:11:36 PM

whatsthatnoise said:
Besides Torchlight 2 pre-orders for less than half the price of Diablo III. However, it's an underdog. Diablo is a brand that's burned into peoples mind and therefore will prevail. No matter how bad/good it will be.


What people need to realise is the same team that made the first 2 diablo's are the team that made torchlight 1 & 2, that is why those games are so good, and feel so much like diablo.

i am still playing torchlight over diablo 3 right now, im not ready to shell out $59.99 for a game that i can get just as much quality and fun out of a game that costs $14.99 (or free with Torchlight 2 pre-order).
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July 19, 2012 8:02:37 PM

Anxiously awaiting Grim Dawn, though it will be a while. Do a google search if you haven't heard of it.
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July 20, 2012 1:53:08 AM

are you kidding?
there miost definitly is an improvement and yes it is enough?
ok yes it might be too similiar in ways of the whole hack and slash side of things but isnt that what diablo is made for?
and im sure d2 doesnt have all those eye popping graphical new character classes?
and the hack and slash is even better now then ever before thanks to blizzard?
personally im thanking them for continuing on with the set?
but arent we all?
there is no way you can put any diablo game down like that.
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July 20, 2012 12:51:32 PM

tyler225 said:
are you kidding?
there miost definitly is an improvement and yes it is enough?
ok yes it might be too similiar in ways of the whole hack and slash side of things but isnt that what diablo is made for?
and im sure d2 doesnt have all those eye popping graphical new character classes?
and the hack and slash is even better now then ever before thanks to blizzard?
personally im thanking them for continuing on with the set?
but arent we all?
there is no way you can put any diablo game down like that.


why not put it down? yes it may be a good game, but its not new or fresh, its the same idea wrapped in 3D graphics and deep fried in in new skills/classes/story.
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July 20, 2012 12:54:42 PM

sscultima said:
why not put it down? yes it may be a good game, but its not new or fresh, its the same idea wrapped in 3D graphics and deep fried in in new skills/classes/story.


D2 wasn't fresh or new either. The original one was the only one that could claim that. Not everything has to be innovative. As long as you can make it fun, it doesn't matter. Blizzard has never been a company that innovates anyways. They prefer to polish old ideas.
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July 20, 2012 8:54:44 PM

bystander said:
D2 wasn't fresh or new either. The original one was the only one that could claim that. Not everything has to be innovative. As long as you can make it fun, it doesn't matter. Blizzard has never been a company that innovates anyways. They prefer to polish old ideas.


like i said, its a good game, and fun, but its not something i want to keep playing over and over, im sure if D4 does see the light of day in the distant future i will not stop to think and play it. we have the 2D and 3D of the style from that kind of story, be damned if they suck me in to play a 4th.

never said D2 was fresh, im talking in general in the diablo franchise. its the same old crap with a few tweaks and different characters and story. But what is new to the series will be controlled PvP that i believe they plan on adding like an arena which is cool and new. so if they keep making stuff new like that or maybe something completely different to the diablo series then i would consider a 4th or even to buy the 3rd. but i need more than just hack and slash
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July 22, 2012 8:54:08 PM

sscultima said:
why not put it down? yes it may be a good game, but its not new or fresh, its the same idea wrapped in 3D graphics and deep fried in in new skills/classes/story.

because it has a storyline that is carryed on through the sequel, they cant completely change the storyline just for you!
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July 25, 2012 11:09:13 AM

tyler225 said:
because it has a storyline that is carryed on through the sequel, they cant completely change the storyline just for you!


dont think you quite understood that post, i was explaining that its not new in mechanics or its the same thing slightly altered so that they don't call it the same. but at its core, it is the same, and something that is the same i believe should not cost as much as it does, hence why i look to torchlight, its $20, and very similar with the 3D environment. Also, i'd rather support the original Diablo team since they were the ones that started it all and made it happen.
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July 26, 2012 3:06:44 PM

gary1 said:
The real question is how hard Inferno really is going to be, especially in solo.


Inferno is going to kick your ass. It's really hard. I know i hit a wall when i got to act 2. You really have to up your resistances, otherwise you won't be progressing very well. I'm at belial and can't beat him. Most of my friends moved on to other games so now i
'm just starting new characters until they come back and help me defeat him.

Paul
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July 26, 2012 9:46:55 PM

pierogi210 said:
Inferno is going to kick your ass. It's really hard. I know i hit a wall when i got to act 2. You really have to up your resistances, otherwise you won't be progressing very well. I'm at belial and can't beat him. Most of my friends moved on to other games so now i
'm just starting new characters until they come back and help me defeat him.

Paul


I could help you if you wanted. I've beaten Diablo on inferno. Act 2 is tough, but the real wall is act 3, though some classes really aren't built well to solo, and just need a tank to help them.
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July 26, 2012 10:32:33 PM

bystander said:
I could help you if you wanted. I've beaten Diablo on inferno. Act 2 is tough, but the real wall is act 3, though some classes really aren't built well to solo, and just need a tank to help them.


Can you give me your D3 username and number?
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July 27, 2012 1:26:21 AM

pierogi210 said:
Can you give me your D3 username and number?

I sent the info in a private message.
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