EQ1 Anyone actually like the new bazaar?

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For myself, I detest it. The maze is terrible.

Add in the fact I can hardly move in many zones today and I
guess I can't even kill time in EQ1 waiting for Vanguard or
another new game I might like. It's not as if my system
can't handle it, it's a P4 3.2GHz, 2GB memory and an FX5950
vid card with 256MB memory.

 

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"KDragon" <nospam.for.me.please@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> For myself, I detest it. The maze is terrible.
>
> Add in the fact I can hardly move in many zones today and I guess I can't
> even kill time in EQ1 waiting for Vanguard or another new game I might
> like. It's not as if my system can't handle it, it's a P4 3.2GHz, 2GB
> memory and an FX5950 vid card with 256MB memory.

What was the purpose of Sony changing the Bazaar? Lag? Since WoW and EQII,
lag hasn't really presented itself as a problem.

Change for the sake of change friggin bites the big one!

There's so many other things Sony could have worked on besides a "new and
improved" bazaar!

 

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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:02:23 -0500, KDragon
<nospam.for.me.please@nospam.net> wrote:

>For myself, I detest it. The maze is terrible.
>
>Add in the fact I can hardly move in many zones today and I
>guess I can't even kill time in EQ1 waiting for Vanguard or
>another new game I might like. It's not as if my system
>can't handle it, it's a P4 3.2GHz, 2GB memory and an FX5950
>vid card with 256MB memory.

I like it. I was confused at first when I logged into the bazaar.
But, I just pulled up /baz, searched for a common item and hit "Find
Trader." The trail led me to the teleport thingy and then, studying
the map, it will became much clearer.

Not sure what to say about your performance issues. I have a much
lesser machine and didn't notice any problems.
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:49:40 +0000 (UTC), Hughie MacAngus <hughie-200502@grfb.com> wrote:

> I ran down to lavastorm. Nobody in the good camp would talk to me,
> but I could open the screen from the rewards vendor. None seemed
> to give a faction quest to let me talk to the others. And the evil camp
> just tried to kill me straight away. So I went to bed. Maybe I'll see some
> dragons tomorrow (or at least get a camp to talk to me).

Just walk out in the middle of the zone and wait for a few minutes. You'll see a really
cool dragon soon enough. :->

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Darkensolo wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:02:23 -0500, KDragon
> <nospam.for.me.please@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>
>>For myself, I detest it. The maze is terrible.
>>
>>Add in the fact I can hardly move in many zones today and I
>>guess I can't even kill time in EQ1 waiting for Vanguard or
>>another new game I might like. It's not as if my system
>>can't handle it, it's a P4 3.2GHz, 2GB memory and an FX5950
>>vid card with 256MB memory.
>
>
> I like it. I was confused at first when I logged into the bazaar.
> But, I just pulled up /baz, searched for a common item and hit "Find
> Trader." The trail led me to the teleport thingy and then, studying
> the map, it will became much clearer.
>
> Not sure what to say about your performance issues. I have a much
> lesser machine and didn't notice any problems.

Several guildmates seem to have the same problem as I do.
Stuttering graphics, big lag, etc. As several here have
said, some with much lesser machines have no problems at all
and this appears to be the general case within the guild as
well. The only common denominator I can see so far, is that
it's the high end machines with this symptom. I thought
maybe it was nVIDIA drivers, but a few ATI people have it as
well. I remember some lag issues after OoW went live which
disappeared within a few patches. Hope the same happens with
this expansion. As for the cause, who knows, it is only an
issue in EQ1, no other games or programs show any problems
at all. I reloaded both the drivers (66.93) and DirectX
9.0c, but no joy.

Time to take the kids skating

 

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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:02:23 -0500 in
<KQxQd.6421$dZ.345490@news20.bellglobal.com>, KDragon
<nospam.for.me.please@nospam.net> graced the world with this thought:

>For myself, I detest it. The maze is terrible.
>
>Add in the fact I can hardly move in many zones today and I
>guess I can't even kill time in EQ1 waiting for Vanguard or
>another new game I might like. It's not as if my system
>can't handle it, it's a P4 3.2GHz, 2GB memory and an FX5950
>vid card with 256MB memory.

No it isn't your system as far as you've quoted, however, since
there's plenty of people playing with no real hassle that own lesser
systems... it's your system

 

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"bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:02:23 -0500 in
> <KQxQd.6421$dZ.345490@news20.bellglobal.com>, KDragon
> <nospam.for.me.please@nospam.net> graced the world with this thought:
>
>>For myself, I detest it. The maze is terrible.
>>
>>Add in the fact I can hardly move in many zones today and I
>>guess I can't even kill time in EQ1 waiting for Vanguard or
>>another new game I might like. It's not as if my system
>>can't handle it, it's a P4 3.2GHz, 2GB memory and an FX5950
>>vid card with 256MB memory.
>
> No it isn't your system as far as you've quoted, however, since
> there's plenty of people playing with no real hassle that own lesser
> systems... it's your system

When I logged in last night, my guy was in the bazaar, where he pretty much
lives while I'm WoWing these days...anyway, I saw mostly grey planes instead
of the bazaar itself. Someone told me to log out, restart EQ, and at the
patcher screen, click on advanced, then check the boxes next to all the
expansions you own, click on save, and then let the game redownload the
files it needs (full file check isn't necessary). This worked for me, I was
able to see and move once again, although I don't think I much care for the
new bazaar myself.

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"Skyllar" <Erik5150@Comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "KDragon" <nospam.for.me.please@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:KQxQd.6421$dZ.345490@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> For myself, I detest it. The maze is terrible.
>>
>> Add in the fact I can hardly move in many zones today and I guess I can't
>> even kill time in EQ1 waiting for Vanguard or another new game I might
>> like. It's not as if my system can't handle it, it's a P4 3.2GHz, 2GB
>> memory and an FX5950 vid card with 256MB memory.
>
> What was the purpose of Sony changing the Bazaar? Lag? Since WoW and EQII,
> lag hasn't really presented itself as a problem.
>
> Change for the sake of change friggin bites the big one!
>
> There's so many other things Sony could have worked on besides a "new and
> improved" bazaar!

Some people in The New Bazaar were saying how happy they were that the
lag was gone. For every one of them, though, there were three or four who
hated it for various reasons: takes forever to visit traders, the Find
function is a lot screwier, people were logging into the old Bazaar area
(new Bazaar was built on top of the old one), the Bazaar and Barter areas
were kept separate, there's no longer a big PVP arena in The Bazaar, etc. I
don't like it because it's separate from the Barter area, and because it
takes much longer to purchase items. I knew enough to hit "Hide Traders" and
look down when looking at the front of The Bazaar where all the non-traders
hung out, so the lag didn't bother me.

Oh, and none of the vendors can be found with the Find NPC function
except for the Discord merchant. Wheeeee.

James

 

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<jamesgrahame@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> "Skyllar" <Erik5150@Comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:joydnWCuevxSU4_fRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> > "KDragon" <nospam.for.me.please@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > news:KQxQd.6421$dZ.345490@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> For myself, I detest it. The maze is terrible.
> >>
> >> Add in the fact I can hardly move in many zones today and I guess I can't
> >> even kill time in EQ1 waiting for Vanguard or another new game I might
> >> like. It's not as if my system can't handle it, it's a P4 3.2GHz, 2GB
> >> memory and an FX5950 vid card with 256MB memory.
> >
> > What was the purpose of Sony changing the Bazaar? Lag? Since WoW and EQII,
> > lag hasn't really presented itself as a problem.
> >
> > Change for the sake of change friggin bites the big one!
> >
> > There's so many other things Sony could have worked on besides a "new and
> > improved" bazaar!
>
> Some people in The New Bazaar were saying how happy they were that the
> lag was gone. For every one of them, though, there were three or four who
> hated it for various reasons: takes forever to visit traders, the Find
> function is a lot screwier, people were logging into the old Bazaar area
> (new Bazaar was built on top of the old one), the Bazaar and Barter areas
> were kept separate, there's no longer a big PVP arena in The Bazaar, etc. I
> don't like it because it's separate from the Barter area, and because it
> takes much longer to purchase items. I knew enough to hit "Hide Traders" and
> look down when looking at the front of The Bazaar where all the non-traders
> hung out, so the lag didn't bother me.
>
> Oh, and none of the vendors can be found with the Find NPC function
> except for the Discord merchant. Wheeeee.

My biggest complaint is that the bazaar and barter zones are separate. That
dooms the barter zone to be underutilized I think, but we'll see.

My secondary complaint is that the new bazaar zone is needlessly complex. I
literally had to zoom the map in and pay very close attention to it to find
my way back out. I'm sure after I've been there a few times that won't be
much of an issue, but I didn't need any map at all to find my way around the
old bazaar on day one.

 

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:41:13 -0600 in <42136924$1@nntp.usm.edu>,
"Firian" <G.Booth@usm.edu> graced the world with this thought:

>"bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:02:23 -0500 in
>> <KQxQd.6421$dZ.345490@news20.bellglobal.com>, KDragon
>> <nospam.for.me.please@nospam.net> graced the world with this thought:
>>
>>>For myself, I detest it. The maze is terrible.
>>>
>>>Add in the fact I can hardly move in many zones today and I
>>>guess I can't even kill time in EQ1 waiting for Vanguard or
>>>another new game I might like. It's not as if my system
>>>can't handle it, it's a P4 3.2GHz, 2GB memory and an FX5950
>>>vid card with 256MB memory.
>>
>> No it isn't your system as far as you've quoted, however, since
>> there's plenty of people playing with no real hassle that own lesser
>> systems... it's your system
>
>When I logged in last night, my guy was in the bazaar, where he pretty much
>lives while I'm WoWing these days...anyway, I saw mostly grey planes instead
>of the bazaar itself. Someone told me to log out, restart EQ, and at the
>patcher screen, click on advanced, then check the boxes next to all the
>expansions you own, click on save, and then let the game redownload the
>files it needs (full file check isn't necessary). This worked for me, I was
>able to see and move once again, although I don't think I much care for the
>new bazaar myself.

worked for me too... three times.

 

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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:02:23 -0500, KDragon
<nospam.for.me.please@nospam.net> wrote:

>For myself, I detest it. The maze is terrible.
>
>Add in the fact I can hardly move in many zones today and I
>guess I can't even kill time in EQ1 waiting for Vanguard or
>another new game I might like. It's not as if my system
>can't handle it, it's a P4 3.2GHz, 2GB memory and an FX5950
>vid card with 256MB memory.

I don;t like it. When I think of a bazaar what comes to mind is a
bunch of tents and stalls outdoors. Of course the old bazaar wasn't
outdoors but it had more of an outdoor feel than the new one by a long
shot.

And having to go from the vendor in the diamond room of the blue
griffin room to the vendor in the sapphire room of the red dragon
room.....well that just blows sheep.

~F

 

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Hughie MacAngus <hughie-200502@grfb.com> writes:
> * Guild Bank - Nice concept, horrible interface. To put things into the
> bank, I have to pick up the item, click the "deposit item" button. It
> appears in the "deposits" area, then I click it there, and hit the "add
> to bank" button. Then it appears in the main bank, and I can select who
> has permission to withdraw it, for each item at a time. I added over 100
> items from my guild mule, it was fun.
> Actually, I couldn't hit the "add to bank" button. As the guild leader,
> I wasn't flagged as "Banker" by default. So I had to add that flag from
> the guild tool first.

I ran into a similar problem, except I'm not guild leader, so I had
no way to flag myself as a banker. Thus, once I clicked "deposit",
I wasn't allowed to click "put in bank", but I also couldn't click
"withdraw". The item I'd depositedwas completely inaccessible to me.
Given that I was trying it out with one of my rings, I was upset.

I *did* try to RTFM before doing this. I clicked on the ? in the
guild bank window, and read it all, and it didn't explain what a
"banker" was, so I thought maybe it was the person who put any given
item in the bank. I.e., if I put my ring in, I'd be the banker for
that ring, and the default permission would be that only I could take
it out again. Seemed a bit odd, since it would be giving extra bank
space to all guild members, but I was willing to try it. Oops!

When I asked about it in-game, some people told me there were files
in my EverQuest folder with more documentation. But I did also look
in my /help folder, and didn't see anything about the guild bank and
how people need to be designated as bankers. The /help/tips folder
has the files used for the Tip windows, and /help itself seems to have
the mostly out of date stuff from the general Help window. Is there
something more?

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"bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:41:13 -0600 in <42136924$1@nntp.usm.edu>,
> "Firian" <G.Booth@usm.edu> graced the world with this thought:
>>
>>When I logged in last night, my guy was in the bazaar, where he pretty
>>much
>>lives while I'm WoWing these days...anyway, I saw mostly grey planes
>>instead
>>of the bazaar itself. Someone told me to log out, restart EQ, and at the
>>patcher screen, click on advanced, then check the boxes next to all the
>>expansions you own, click on save, and then let the game redownload the
>>files it needs (full file check isn't necessary). This worked for me, I
>>was
>>able to see and move once again, although I don't think I much care for
>>the
>>new bazaar myself.
>
> worked for me too... three times.

Three times? I only had to do it once...but then I've not left the bazaar
and re-entered since then, is that why you had to do it three times?

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 08:42:29 -0600 in <4214acdf$1@nntp.usm.edu>,
"Firian" <G.Booth@usm.edu> graced the world with this thought:

>"bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:41:13 -0600 in <42136924$1@nntp.usm.edu>,
>> "Firian" <G.Booth@usm.edu> graced the world with this thought:
>>>
>>>When I logged in last night, my guy was in the bazaar, where he pretty
>>>much
>>>lives while I'm WoWing these days...anyway, I saw mostly grey planes
>>>instead
>>>of the bazaar itself. Someone told me to log out, restart EQ, and at the
>>>patcher screen, click on advanced, then check the boxes next to all the
>>>expansions you own, click on save, and then let the game redownload the
>>>files it needs (full file check isn't necessary). This worked for me, I
>>>was
>>>able to see and move once again, although I don't think I much care for
>>>the
>>>new bazaar myself.
>>
>> worked for me too... three times.
>
>Three times? I only had to do it once...but then I've not left the bazaar
>and re-entered since then, is that why you had to do it three times?

I reentered from shadowhaven and got stuck again. I was in the "stuck
character" chat room for about two hours, and there were a number of
people who were stuck, told they'd been moved, only to log back on and
find their character still stuck in the same spot, or began getting a
"you already have a character logged on" message. Oh yeah, and with
they're usual efficiency, they had one GM unsticking about 1000
people, in no particular order. One guy waited two hours and was never
helped before I left, others would show up and be helped in about two
minutes.

I'd guess they have it all worked out by now, but what a circle jerk
that was.

 

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KDragon <nospam.for.me.please@nospam.net> wrote in news:KQxQd.6421
$dZ.345490@news20.bellglobal.com:

> For myself, I detest it. The maze is terrible.
>
> Add in the fact I can hardly move in many zones today and I
> guess I can't even kill time in EQ1 waiting for Vanguard or
> another new game I might like. It's not as if my system
> can't handle it, it's a P4 3.2GHz, 2GB memory and an FX5950
> vid card with 256MB memory.
>

Can't imagine what your problem is, I have an inferior system everything
turned on except shadows, and have zero problems moving anywehere.

As for the new bazaar, I expect I'll get used to it, but hate it at the
moment.

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