crashman thanx for the advice.
but i decided i would doa little expirimenting....
purchased some 0000 rated "steel wool2", very fine synthetic steel wool. i then used WD-40 as the first cutting agent, then went to lighter fluid, the rubbing alcohol(probably could of gone w/o the alcohol.) plus a little AS2.
the result, 5 degree drop in temps.
so now my duron 850 oced to 980(140*7)is running at 41C with an ambient temp of 24C.
is this reality... i thought it would more realistic.