AC No Roam Plans

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I wonder how they will handle this with PRLs. Will they have a whole
new set for the new AC plans, otherwise even if we have an older
contract our phone would indicate areas just like the new plan.

Rich

Bill Radio wrote:
> The rumors seem to be true. I got to peek at the new map and basically, on
> 2/21/05, AC = NSR. Plan are the same, but you need a new contract if your
> AC plan is older than 1/16/05.
>
> Everything that is now "Roam" will become "Extended." Nights & Weekends, IN
> and LD are Unlimited. Can't find any 'gotchas' on this. No areas (SID's)
> seem to be removed or negative.
>
>
> Bill Radio
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> http://www.mountainwireless.com
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>

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:16:48 -0700, "Bill Radio"
<Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote:

>The rumors seem to be true. I got to peek at the new map and basically, on
>2/21/05, AC = NSR. Plan are the same, but you need a new contract if your
>AC plan is older than 1/16/05.
>
>Everything that is now "Roam" will become "Extended." Nights & Weekends, IN
>and LD are Unlimited. Can't find any 'gotchas' on this. No areas (SID's)
>seem to be removed or negative.
>
>
>Bill Radio
>Click for Western U.S. Wireless Reviews at:
>http://www.mountainwireless.com
>

This sounds too good to be true! I have a VERY old NSR plan that I've
been holding onto for dear life because more than anything else I do
not want to incurr roaming charges.

Does this mean that I can finally upgrade to the AC plan and never
have to worry about roaming charges?

Cathy

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In article <ZMCdnbv7uMRxfYnfRVn-jw@adelphia.com>,
Al Jackson <ajackson51@yahoo.com> wrote:
>The only 'gotcha' I see with the new plans is their restriction on using
>data without a data plan. Basically no more MOU.

Are we also going to see new North America's Choice plans?

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:22:35 -0500, "Al Jackson" <ajackson51@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>The only 'gotcha' I see with the new plans is their restriction on using
>data without a data plan. Basically no more MOU.
>

Is this no data or no high speed (QNC) data (National Access)? My contract
started 2/2/05, will I lose low speed data? They changed the buzz words
so many times I'll stick with high speed vs low speed.

gerry


>"Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote in message
>news:1118h6vrh0psu25@corp.supernews.com...
>> The rumors seem to be true. I got to peek at the new map and basically,
>> on
>> 2/21/05, AC = NSR. Plan are the same, but you need a new contract if your
>> AC plan is older than 1/16/05.
>>
>> Everything that is now "Roam" will become "Extended." Nights & Weekends,
>> IN
>> and LD are Unlimited. Can't find any 'gotchas' on this. No areas (SID's)
>> seem to be removed or negative.
>>
>>
>> Bill Radio
>> Click for Western U.S. Wireless Reviews at:
>> http://www.mountainwireless.com
>>
>>
>


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rg wrote:

> The way that Cingular/AT&T does it is without any type of PRL. They handle
> it with what they call "roaming partners" that they make deals with. If you
> are in an area where they are partnered up with another carrier there is no
> roaming without a PRL. You won't have to look at your phone to see what the
> indicator is, if you have service it is within your plan and if there is no
> roaming partner where you are you just have no service there.

Cingular is mostly GSM now, and GSM phones don't use PRLs. I believe the
IRDB is similar, though, is it not?

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Thanks to Bill Radio we can see the new map early:
http://prlsites.tripod.com/ac_no_roam3.jpg
and
http://prlsites.tripod.com/ac_no_roam2.jpg

For many, the no-roam plans will be an improvement. It also appears that
large amounts of rural roaming in Oregon (and in some other places) will
simply be unavailable. We won't know this for sure until some time passes,
PRL is released, and folks gain experience.

i.e. Large amounts of Eastern Oregon have coverage not in the PRL provided
by Cellular One NW. This is a fee-based roam area for AC users, but it's
unclear if someone on the no-roam plan could use that network even if they
wanted to pay roaming fees.

I mean if you complain about roaming fees, there's two ways Verizon can
provide no roaming: One way is to absorb the cost and give it to you, and
the other is to take away your ability to roam.

-Dan

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A related question is that if the new AC is a true no roaming plan,
with no coverage removed, then it would have to replace the NSR
plan. Does anyone know if it does?

"Nathanls" <nathan> wrote in news:edednbWiV-rOYIvfRVn-
jA@comcast.com:

> I am not sure if anyone has seen the prl yet but i think that
they
> made some of the roaming areas "no service" does anyone know the
real
> answer?
>
>
> "Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote in
message
> news:1118h6vrh0psu25@corp.supernews.com...
>> The rumors seem to be true. I got to peek at the new map and
>> basically, on
>> 2/21/05, AC = NSR. Plan are the same, but you need a new
contract if
>> your AC plan is older than 1/16/05.
>>
>> Everything that is now "Roam" will become "Extended." Nights &
>> Weekends, IN
>> and LD are Unlimited. Can't find any 'gotchas' on this. No
areas
>> (SID's) seem to be removed or negative.
>>
>>
>> Bill Radio
>> Click for Western U.S. Wireless Reviews at:
>> http://www.mountainwireless.com
>>
>>
>
>
>

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What good is it?! This looks like the same coverage map we already have,
except there's "no service" in areas that were previously charged roaming.
And in some areas, (like northern lower michigan) it *appears* to indicate
analog coverage on this plan where there is digital coverage on the old plan
map.

Silly.

-Jeff


"Dan Albrich" <dalbrich@uoregon.edui> wrote in message
news:UoCdnaXcQtCJQYvfRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> Thanks to Bill Radio we can see the new map early:
> http://prlsites.tripod.com/ac_no_roam3.jpg
> and
> http://prlsites.tripod.com/ac_no_roam2.jpg
>
> For many, the no-roam plans will be an improvement. It also appears that
> large amounts of rural roaming in Oregon (and in some other places) will
> simply be unavailable. We won't know this for sure until some time passes,
> PRL is released, and folks gain experience.
>
> i.e. Large amounts of Eastern Oregon have coverage not in the PRL provided
> by Cellular One NW. This is a fee-based roam area for AC users, but it's
> unclear if someone on the no-roam plan could use that network even if they
> wanted to pay roaming fees.
>
> I mean if you complain about roaming fees, there's two ways Verizon can
> provide no roaming: One way is to absorb the cost and give it to you, and
> the other is to take away your ability to roam.
>
> -Dan
>
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> http://cell.uoregon.edu
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In news:ybKdnbR0S6zdJ4ffRVn-qg@comcast.com,
Dan Albrich <dalbrich@uoregon.edui> typed:
>> What good is it?!
>
> You got my point exactly. At the moment, the new "no-roam" plans look
> like a downgrade compared to what I have. Thankfully, I am not
> required to "upgrade."
>
> -Dan
>

I agree! VZW's new no service - I mean no roam - AC plan with no MOU data
definitely looks like a downgrade.
I guess that VZW decided people liked the NO ROAM plans like Cingular &
T-Mobile offer (no service rather than roam). I had the AC plan because I
want a phone to work in as many places as possible. Did not get the NSR
because I don't roam that often and when I do use the phone while roaming I
still come out ahead.

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On 22 Feb 2005 01:21:01 -0500, mch@shell1.iglou.com (MARK HENDERSON) wrote:

>In article <ybKdnbR0S6zdJ4ffRVn-qg@comcast.com>,
>Dan Albrich <dalbrich@uoregon.edui> wrote:
>>> What good is it?!
>>
>>You got my point exactly. At the moment, the new "no-roam" plans look like a
>>downgrade compared to what I have. Thankfully, I am not required to
>>"upgrade."
>
>Looking at Rich's interpretation, it looks like AC2 doesn't add anything
>in WA/OR - but it takes away some roaming coverage (a few PRL entries, plus
>all of the Auto-A roaming)


This new AC2 No Roaming plan seems weird to me. I can't roam in the U.S.
where I was able to roam before but I can now roam in China?

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