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Need help finding a good Gaming Keyboard / Gaming mouse

Well its been awhile i have right now a Razer Lycosa that I've had for about 3 years now its finally given up on me, I also have a Razer Imperator and i hate this thing used it for a year now and I've had enough of it i need a better mouse i use the fingertip grip and so far all this thing does is hurt my hand and the buttons on the side don't work anymore.

For my gaming keyboard i have no idea what my preference is on that i didn't really like the Lycosa because the keys were small and a little stiff maybe a mechanical keyboard would be better i have no clue i do not care what company it is personally i prefer Steel-series mouse pads, Logitech mice, no preference on the keyboard.

Mice wise again i use the fingertip grip and my experience with this Imperator isn't so good.

I play all genre of games so equipment that would be all purpose would be nice but there are 2 games i play everyday and take quit seriously are:
Heroes of Newerth and Starcraft 2.

So far these are what I've picked out but i have no clue if they are any good

Logitech G9x
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104261
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Logitech G19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126053

RAZER BlackWidow Ultimate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823114012
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If someone could point me in the right direction that would be nice!
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  1. First: The keyboard!
    I'm using the blackwidow and am not happy with it! I was hesitant while buying it as it was a tad expensive. But then I thought maybe the price would be worth it....sadly, disappointed! See, I was using a cheapie mechanical keyboard before this....a TVS Gold mechanical. Frankly, I was in love with the keys of that one but couldn't use more than 3 keys at the same time (no anti-ghosting). That's why I decided to get a different one. The problem with the Blackwidow (which I'm facing) is that the keys have a tendancy of getting stuck in the down pressed position. Plus, the feel of the keys on pressing them isn't too great either. As such, I have to press the keys delicately - and cannot pound them, like I could on the TVS.

    So, for that price, I'd recommend a logitech or a steel series keyboard.

    Mouse:
    I'm using a CoolerMaster Sentinel Advanced, with which I'm very happy! It has dual lasers and the accuracy is pretty great.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826570011

    If you have a claw grip, it might take a little getting used to. For that single reason though, the GX9 may be better. I also have a claw grip and after a while, this mouse was pretty good...for me!
  2. namelessonez said:
    First: The keyboard!
    I'm using the blackwidow and am not happy with it! I was hesitant while buying it as it was a tad expensive. But then I thought maybe the price would be worth it....sadly, disappointed! See, I was using a cheapie mechanical keyboard before this....a TVS Gold mechanical. Frankly, I was in love with the keys of that one but couldn't use more than 3 keys at the same time (no anti-ghosting). That's why I decided to get a different one. The problem with the Blackwidow (which I'm facing) is that the keys have a tendancy of getting stuck in the down pressed position. Plus, the feel of the keys on pressing them isn't too great either. As such, I have to press the keys delicately - and cannot pound them, like I could on the TVS.

    So, for that price, I'd recommend a logitech or a steel series keyboard.

    Mouse:
    I'm using a CoolerMaster Sentinel Advanced, with which I'm very happy! It has dual lasers and the accuracy is pretty great.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826570011

    If you have a claw grip, it might take a little getting used to. For that single reason though, the GX9 may be better. I also have a claw grip and after a while, this mouse was pretty good...for me!
    Yea i really have my mind set on the G9x but the keyboard i cant make up my mind weather to go with a G19 or some mechanical keyboard, what are the advantages of a mechanical vs non mechanical keyboards? and should i go for a Mechanical keyboard

    What about the G510?
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126100
  3. Best answer
    Hmm...how do I explain the benefits of a mechanical keyboard! Lemme try, and members can correct/ add accordingly.
    Its basically mechanical v. membrane. Mechanical keyboards are where each key is placed atop a spring of sorts - which is more effective than membrane keyboards as key responses are more efficient. There's an audible 'click' with each key stroke on mechanical keys which lets you know that the key has been pressed, unlike membrane keys. Mechanical keys are of two sorts: cherry mx red and cherry mx blue. Usually, the reds are preferred over the blues as they are much more reliable and responsive.

    Membrane keyboards have their keys placed on a rubber/ other membrane where each key press in turn presses upon the membrane base. Not too good when it comes to gaming where you are usually pounding keys and hard pressing keys.

    I prefer mechanical keyboards over membrane keyboards as they're more efficient and sturdy.

    EDIT:
    I'd recommend the following mechanical keyboards:

    Corsair Vengeance K90 Black $129.99 - if you're into MMO's
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823816002

    Corsair Vengeance K60 Black $109.99 - my personal choice (cherry MX red keys)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823816001

    There's this one from coolermaster, but haven't heard too much about it. It has cherry mx blue keys and is for $79.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823129002

    Its also quite a bit to do with personal preferences.
  4. Keyboard: Mechanical is a good step. Especially if you want it to last longer then the measly 3 years the lycosa gave you. I owned a lycosa prior to moving onto a mechanical keyboard. My recommendation for mechanical keyboards is Leopold and Filco. I personally like the tenkeyless versions. I don't work on excel sheets often and have no need for the numpad.
    Type of switch: Cherry brown was in the middle of blues and blacks. So I get the best of both worlds for gaming and typing. It has a tactile feel on a stroke unlike black switches that are linear, and has no clicky sound like blue switches. (you will hear the key bottom out though)

    Leopold


    Mouse: I use to use a diamondback for years. Thought I was a finger gripper. I was forced to try out many mice on my venture to finding a mouse I liked. During this time I found out I was actually better with a hybrid grip. But, I can say for a finger grip the diamondback and cm spawn are good choices. I'm currently using an IME 3.0 with a hybrid grip.

    CM spawn


    CM spawn next to Razer DA - size comparison


    IME 3.0
  5. namelessonez said:
    Hmm...how do I explain the benefits of a mechanical keyboard! Lemme try, and members can correct/ add accordingly.
    Its basically mechanical v. membrane. Mechanical keyboards are where each key is placed atop a spring of sorts - which is more effective than membrane keyboards as key responses are more efficient. There's an audible 'click' with each key stroke on mechanical keys which lets you know that the key has been pressed, unlike membrane keys. Mechanical keys are of two sorts: cherry mx red and cherry mx blue. Usually, the reds are preferred over the blues as they are much more reliable and responsive.

    Membrane keyboards have their keys placed on a rubber/ other membrane where each key press in turn presses upon the membrane base. Not too good when it comes to gaming where you are usually pounding keys and hard pressing keys.

    I prefer mechanical keyboards over membrane keyboards as they're more efficient and sturdy.

    EDIT:
    I'd recommend the following mechanical keyboards:

    Corsair Vengeance K90 Black $129.99 - if you're into MMO's
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823816002

    Corsair Vengeance K60 Black $109.99 - my personal choice (cherry MX red keys)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823816001

    There's this one from coolermaster, but haven't heard too much about it. It has cherry mx blue keys and is for $79.99
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823129002

    Its also quite a bit to do with personal preferences.
    Alright then i should go with the K90 over the G510? Or does the G510 work just as good for gaming as the K90 does? As i will go with the K90 over the K60 but for the K90 vs the G510 there is also a 30$ difference and if you G510 feels the same whats the point of spending the extra 30$?
  6. if your black widows keys are sticking then its faulty, return it under warranty... the razer warranty is 2 years for that keyboard and they will accept sticking keys as a valid reason for return...
    i too am looking for a good mechanical keyboard...
    i have a good mouse in the rat contagion. it is superior to all its siblings...
    backlighting is essential to me. so i will be going for either the Tt esports meka 1, meka g-unit or Qpad MK-80


    http://www.overclockers.co.uk is doing some great prices atm.
  7. HEXiT said:
    if your black widows keys are sticking then its faulty, return it under warranty... the razer warranty is 2 years for that keyboard and they will accept sticking keys as a valid reason for return...
    i too am looking for a good mechanical keyboard...
    i have a good mouse in the rat contagion. it is superior to all its siblings...
    backlighting is essential to me. so i will be going for either the Tt esports meka 1, meka g-unit or Qpad MK-80


    http://www.overclockers.co.uk is doing some great prices atm.
    The Lycosa had come like this and i sent a rma [at the time 3 years ago] got a new one then it felt the same way they aren't sticky just a little stiff, I think i like the K90 tried it at my local TigerDirect, and the mouse the G9x i didn't get to try so im choosing between the:
    Logitech G9x
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104261

    Corsair M90:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826816007&Tpk=Corsair%20m90

    Cyborg Rat Contagion [Rat 7]:
    http://www.cyborggaming.com/contagion/
  8. the first contagion i got was faulty and it seems they do have a poor build quality... but if you get lucky which i did on the second mouse you will find it hard to pick a better mouse...
    i have been using mice since the early days of ball mice and i gotta say the contagion for me has been the best... dont get the rat 7 standard as it has issues and a different sensor. the contagion has the same sensor as the updated lachesis and mamba so you know its a quality part.

    the corasir although a quality mouse and is hard to fault isnt that comfy to use... its actually better to have your macros on your keyboard rather than on a thumb button. there just to fiddly and if you haven't used 1(ie brought up on that kind of mouse as a child) they are a bitch to retrain your thumb for...
    i cant fault it in any other way and it is a bit of a nitpick even when i do... all i can say is yes its a good mouse but i guarantee you wont use all the buttons just 1 or 2 max. im just managing now to train my thumb on my contagion to hit prone when i get hit on bf3... its been nearly 4 months and only now am i getting to a point where i do it without having to think. like i said a bitch to train your thumb... and i dont use the easy aim...at all...


    the g9x has 2 major flaws that i dont like. and thats its liftoff distance... most but not all have between 1.5 and 2 cm of liftoff which in gaming mouse terms is huge. the contagion on the other hand should have a lift off of about 3mm at most but as i say the inconsistent build quality can often make that much bigger. the second is acceleration... even when its turned off it has positive acceleration which if your not used to it, is a glearing problem... some would disagree but i found it near impossible to hit a fps target with any regularity... i often tended to overshoot bu some margin.

    from the 3 you have mentioned i think i would recommend the M90 just because it has good quality build, a very decent sensor and great tracking with minimal prediction (prediction is needed just should not be intrusive)
  9. HEXiT said:
    the first contagion i got was faulty and it seems they do have a poor build quality... but if you get lucky which i did on the second mouse you will find it hard to pick a better mouse...
    i have been using mice since the early days of ball mice and i gotta say the contagion for me has been the best... dont get the rat 7 standard as it has issues and a different sensor. the contagion has the same sensor as the updated lachesis and mamba so you know its a quality part.

    the corasir although a quality mouse and is hard to fault isnt that comfy to use... its actually better to have your macros on your keyboard rather than on a thumb button. there just to fiddly and if you haven't used 1(ie brought up on that kind of mouse as a child) they are a bitch to retrain your thumb for...
    i cant fault it in any other way and it is a bit of a nitpick even when i do... all i can say is yes its a good mouse but i guarantee you wont use all the buttons just 1 or 2 max. im just managing now to train my thumb on my contagion to hit prone when i get hit on bf3... its been nearly 4 months and only now am i getting to a point where i do it without having to think. like i said a bitch to train your thumb... and i dont use the easy aim...at all...


    the g9x has 2 major flaws that i dont like. and thats its liftoff distance... most but not all have between 1.5 and 2 cm of liftoff which in gaming mouse terms is huge. the contagion on the other hand should have a lift off of about 3mm at most but as i say the inconsistent build quality can often make that much bigger. the second is acceleration... even when its turned off it has positive acceleration which if your not used to it, is a glearing problem... some would disagree but i found it near impossible to hit a fps target with any regularity... i often tended to overshoot bu some margin.

    from the 3 you have mentioned i think i would recommend the M90 just because it has good quality build, a very decent sensor and great tracking with minimal prediction (prediction is needed just should not be intrusive)
    Hmm i think ill have to try moth the M90 and the G9x to see which i like more i personally hate the buttons on the side i hardly used mine on the imperator, feature wise i like the G9x alot more because of the weights and the 2 cases you get but again you say it has a liftoff distance issue and the acceleration issue i have a question about that by acceleration do you mean like the mouse speeds up while moving? if so thats a deal breaker for me ill go with the M90 then
  10. G9x middle mouse button is awkwardly hard to press in. Wouldn't buy just for that reason.
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