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January 27, 2012 7:08:18 AM

Now, I realize that it is just a drop in the bucket, but
http://news.investors.com/Article/599002/201201260818/o...

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January 28, 2012 7:55:27 PM

Democrats don't have to pay taxes, didn't you that J?
January 30, 2012 3:01:01 PM

The irony is absolutely palpable...fair share...what a joke...only children and the naive believe in fairness...WTF is "fair" anyway?

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The IRS report also said that thousands of federal employees owe a total of more than $3.4 billion in back taxes. Many of those who are delinquent on their tax obligations include employees of the U.S. Senate who worked on tax-offender laws enacted by Congress.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/26/report-36-obama-staff...


Fair share is to wealth redistribution as tax cheat is to federal employee.
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February 6, 2012 7:43:53 PM

I think it's hilarious the article is specifically trying to attribute all that money to the Obama administration. Garbage.
February 7, 2012 11:25:44 AM

The Koch brothers just announced they will be spending 100 Million bucks to keep Obama from getting re-elected. FYI.

Man poor people just need to get better lobbyists......

Those politicians do need to pay up but to say its only dems that dont pay taxes is a little naive.
February 7, 2012 11:50:14 AM

This just in, China will spend $100 billion to make sure Obama is re-elected. Man us poor people need better lobbyists........
February 7, 2012 11:59:41 PM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
This just in, China will spend $100 billion to make sure Obama is re-elected. Man us poor people need better lobbyists........



Care to source that or are you just attempting to be funny?

Not to mention, the Finance industry, especially a big part of what we recognize and are led to think are American companies (Read: AIG) are in fact huge conglomerates that already have unlimited spending available for this and any election going forward.

So while OMG is trying to be witty or something with his last comment, it's actually the truth of the matter that the money is going to flow in to the candidate who is most lenient on Chinese policy. At this point, both sides are to blame and both are taking large sums of money, so I'd really like to know the angle of that statement...

February 8, 2012 12:56:15 AM

l0ckd0wn said:
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c244/l0ckd0wn420/smileys/blah.gif

Care to source that or are you just attempting to be funny?

Not to mention, the Finance industry, especially a big part of what we recognize and are led to think are American companies (Read: AIG) are in fact huge conglomerates that already have unlimited spending available for this and any election going forward.

So while OMG is trying to be witty or something with his last comment, it's actually the truth of the matter that the money is going to flow in to the candidate who is most lenient on Chinese policy. At this point, both sides are to blame and both are taking large sums of money, so I'd really like to know the angle of that statement...

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c244/l0ckd0wn420/smileys/hippie.gif



Ever heard of "bundlers"?
February 8, 2012 1:55:05 AM

Ever heard of giving an actual explanation to some of your oddball opinions without being cynical and misleading?
February 8, 2012 2:21:18 PM

You know, bundlers. I forget the guys name. He was the Chinese dude that went to prison for bundling for Hillary in the 08' elections.
February 9, 2012 12:13:08 AM

Oh, that's what you are talking about... With Super-PACs it doesn't matter now. It's the same corruption, just entirely legal. You think large donors don't earmark their contributions for individual candidates?

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-17-2012/c...

If you are talking about something else, not just the John Liu thing, please be specific. Either way, can you explain what you are trying to get at considering I don't know what you are trying to say and you just keep repeating yourself?

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/John-Liu-Campaign-...

February 9, 2012 12:01:33 PM

You were asking how China could contribute $100 billion to Obama's campaign and I answered, "with bundlers". Obviously that I am exagerating that figure but I think you get the idea. Bundlers work for the GOP too, so it's not exclusive to the Dems.
February 10, 2012 9:19:00 AM

l0ckd0wn said:
I think it's hilarious the article is specifically trying to attribute all that money to the Obama administration. Garbage.



I beg your pardon, but are you trying to refute the information stated in the article, or are you just trying to dismiss it as anti-Obama?

Of course the writer is anti-Obama, but does that make his facts less accurate? I'd like to know the names of the 36 aids. We now have employers who run credit checks, background checks and even scour facebook pages, digging up the most arbitrary dirt they can find to use as a reason not to hire someone to flip burgers at McDonalds. . As the President of the United States and a boss, there is absolutely no excuse for not properly vetting his employees, these people help him make policy that affects the lives of over 300 million people!

February 10, 2012 1:37:48 PM

This president was not even vetted. Why would you expect his appointees to be vetted? Hell, look how long it took them to forge his birth certificate!

I opened the PDF of his BC they released in Illustrator. It was a layered file. The only reason for it to be a multi layered file is if it has been manipulated.
February 10, 2012 3:29:59 PM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
This president was not even vetted. Why would you expect his appointees to be vetted? Hell, look how long it took them to forge his birth certificate!

I opened the PDF of his BC they released in Illustrator. It was a layered file. The only reason for it to be a multi layered file is if it has been manipulated.



Drop the birther thing it will get you no where. Explanation of why OCR will create multiple layer PDF's

Even Fox agrees its legit
February 10, 2012 4:05:04 PM

So test it out, scan an image (Preferably one with text and images) then optimize it.

Compare the results.
February 10, 2012 4:08:21 PM

I don't need to test it out. I've been doing it for over 15 years. You scan an official document like a birth cert. or passport or ID as a .tiff. You do not OCR it. That is actually a felony if you want to get technical.
February 10, 2012 4:14:27 PM

Well it looks like whoever scanned it in Hawaii didn't turn off the OCR component of the scanner. I'm not so sure its illegal to have OCR applied to legal documents.

Why would someone go through all of the trouble to forge a Birth Certificate and export all of the layers?

Im assuming Trump would have found all of this out.....After all you wont believe what he found.
February 10, 2012 4:15:32 PM

Do you know what OCR stands for? Optical Character Recognition.

You DO NOT do that on legal or official documents. It is a felony. You use a flatbed, scan as an image (.tiff, .jpg. etc.) and save. If you want to PDF then you save to PDF from Photoshop or use Acrobat.

The only reason to recognize the characters is so the the document can be edited.
February 10, 2012 4:25:10 PM

You can totally use OCR for legal docs BTW.
February 10, 2012 4:35:57 PM

Not for those kind of legal docs. Trust me, I went to training for weeks on what you can and can not scan, how it should be scanned. Can you scan in color or BW only, Do you have to reduce by 75% or enlarge by 150%, etc.. Identification papers, like a birth cert. CAN NOT be OCRd.

How do you scan a PDF? It's already electronic.

The purpose of scanning is to turn a piece of printed paper into an electronic file. For a birth cert. all you should really do is essentially take a digital picture of it and save as an image file.

Look, i'm not really a birther but that PDF they officially released sure as hell raised more questions then it answered after I opened it and checked it out.
February 10, 2012 5:23:02 PM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
This president was not even vetted. Why would you expect his appointees to be vetted? Hell, look how long it took them to forge his birth certificate!

I opened the PDF of his BC they released in Illustrator. It was a layered file. The only reason for it to be a multi layered file is if it has been manipulated.



I agree about that, not so much the birther thing but, Obama being properly vetted in general, since we're *going there*.

My biggest problem with Obama is his affiliation with William Ayers. I remember watching the debate with Hilary Clinton and she brought it up, Obama gave a wishywashy answer about his children going to school together, (as if they met in some innocuous PTA meeting- whether he was serious or expected people to buy it, well i guess they did). NOBODY in the press called him on it! William Ayers is a non-apologetic, admitted terrorist. Obama's daughters were 6 and 8 at the time as I recall, William Ayers has adult children. I want to know how those 2 REALLY met and why......
February 10, 2012 5:38:00 PM

Obama's political career in Chicago began in Bill Ayers's living room.
February 10, 2012 6:28:41 PM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
Obama's political career in Chicago began in Bill Ayers's living room.



Thats what I suspect as well. Honestly, I'm not sure what disturbs me more, the fact that it may be the truth, or the fact that the media didn't thoroughly investigate and report on it.
February 10, 2012 9:46:04 PM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
pssst! Why would OCR a document if you didn't want to change it.

I'm a graphics specialist for a living mingo.



I thought you worked in water purification...

Also, nekulturny, I didn't know it was the President's job to make sure his staff paid taxes. It's not my empoyers job to make sure I pay mine, so I don't understand what point is trying to be proven or brought to light here. Again, this is garbage and partisan ammunition with no real academic value. Its the same garbage that OMG, JSC, & JDJ all post, it's just stuff to make them feel better about hating on the president for every single thing imaginable. It's why OMG quotes a single newspaper article and then declares all the other research on a topic bunk. If there were any credibility in what was being posted by these guys it would be a totally different story, but they don't want the truth of what is actually happening, they want to feel better about being "F@$% YA AMERICA!"
February 10, 2012 11:11:37 PM

l0ckd0wn said:
I thought you worked in water purification...

Also, nekulturny, I didn't know it was the President's job to make sure his staff paid taxes. It's not my empoyers job to make sure I pay mine, so I don't understand what point is trying to be proven or brought to light here. Again, this is garbage and partisan ammunition with no real academic value. Its the same garbage that OMG, JSC, & JDJ all post, it's just stuff to make them feel better about hating on the president for every single thing imaginable. It's why OMG quotes a single newspaper article and then declares all the other research on a topic bunk. If there were any credibility in what was being posted by these guys it would be a totally different story, but they don't want the truth of what is actually happening, they want to feel better about being "F@$% YA AMERICA!"



Graphics is my background and yes I currently develop marketing materials, sell sheets, technical schematics, P&IDs, etc. for a water treatment company.

And you're no more full of *** than jsc, jaydee, or myself. We simply disagree. cheers!
February 10, 2012 11:41:35 PM

l0ckd0wn said:
I thought you worked in water purification...

Also, nekulturny, I didn't know it was the President's job to make sure his staff paid taxes. It's not my empoyers job to make sure I pay mine, so I don't understand what point is trying to be proven or brought to light here. Again, this is garbage and partisan ammunition with no real academic value. Its the same garbage that OMG, JSC, & JDJ all post, it's just stuff to make them feel better about hating on the president for every single thing imaginable. It's why OMG quotes a single newspaper article and then declares all the other research on a topic bunk. If there were any credibility in what was being posted by these guys it would be a totally different story, but they don't want the truth of what is actually happening, they want to feel better about being "F@$% YA AMERICA!"


Thats my point, if we do not hold the people who run our country to a higher standard then we are in big trouble. Bigger responsibility = bigger accountability. No acadmeic value? What are you going on about? Are you saying this "isn't a big deal" or that its "not important because it was written by someone who obviously doesn't like Obama", or are you claiming its untrue altogether? How about, "its something that merits further investigation"? I don't know who these people are, even if they exist, but these are serious allegations, and to dismiss them is folly.

Pick one, I'm still waiting for a straight answer. If you're willing to dismiss any such allegations as "having no value" I pray somebody like you never runs for political office and wins. Unfortunately, so it seems this has already happened.


It absolutely is your employer's job to make sure you are an ethically sound individual. But to go with your logic on the issue. If I were Obama and I saw this accusation made against my employees, I would make it my mission to find out who (if anyone) was violating the law in such a manner and fire them IMMEDIATELY. Failure to do so constitutes willful dereliction. If your employer suddenly became aware that one of your co-workers had been fired from several jobs before for stealing, would you feel sorry for him if the day's cash register till came up missing while that person was closing? I wouldn't.

As a voter and a tax payer, Obama is MY employee (and yours), I demand accountability, how about you?
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