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Anonymous
July 20, 2004 12:20:36 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

I'm using The fax Console built into win XP and have a problem with the sent
items folder.

Although it lists 14 items in the status bar at the bottom, all are
invisible! If I hover the mouse in the right pane where they should be
listed a flag appears showing date and time sent. If I double click, the
item opens for viewing. But its just not listed. It's almost like white text
on a white background..... :-s

Inbox and Out box are fine, it's only the sent folder.

I've tried removing Fax via add/remove programmes twice now to no avail.
First time I removed, rebooted and then added back. Second time I left it
over night between. No joy.

I feel sure the problem is down to an errant registry key, if only I knew
where to look!



Steve
Anonymous
July 20, 2004 8:31:37 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

I've seen a handful of similar reports but no one has been able to reproduce
this problem. Did the items in your Sent Items Folder ever display
correctly? If so, what changed before they stopped displaying? How many
items would you expect there to be in that Folder? Does 14 sound accurate to
you?

For starters, I'd suggest checking whether the setting for archiving your
sent Faxes refers to the correct folder, then opening that folder in Windows
Explorer to see what appears there.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Steve Mitchell" <spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:o B4Lc.72$pm6.0@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
> I'm using The fax Console built into win XP and have a problem with the
sent
> items folder.
>
> Although it lists 14 items in the status bar at the bottom, all are
> invisible! If I hover the mouse in the right pane where they should be
> listed a flag appears showing date and time sent. If I double click, the
> item opens for viewing. But its just not listed. It's almost like white
text
> on a white background..... :-s
>
> Inbox and Out box are fine, it's only the sent folder.
>
> I've tried removing Fax via add/remove programmes twice now to no avail.
> First time I removed, rebooted and then added back. Second time I left it
> over night between. No joy.
>
> I feel sure the problem is down to an errant registry key, if only I knew
> where to look!
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
Anonymous
July 21, 2004 1:32:17 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

The sent folder is the default.

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
NT\MSFax\SentItems

Just wondering if the fact that it is the ''All Users'' folder is relevant?

Mine used to display properly until about 5-6 weeks ago. Not sure of exactly
when it stopped working as I only use the program about once a week. the
number of items and dates suggest that all are there, so we aren't losing
data, just unable to see.

The fact that hovering the mouse brings up the description flag and that you
can double click and open the item is most bizzarre. I've placed a
screenshot at
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steve-mitchell/tutorial/fa... if
you want to see excactly what I mean.

I download the windows updates as soon as they are available so perhaps
there's a link there? Can't think of anything else I've added to my machine
recently.

I'm stumped as to why removing and re-installing doesn't solve the problem.

Steve

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:ejWlyDqbEHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I've seen a handful of similar reports but no one has been able to
reproduce
> this problem. Did the items in your Sent Items Folder ever display
> correctly? If so, what changed before they stopped displaying? How many
> items would you expect there to be in that Folder? Does 14 sound accurate
to
> you?
>
> For starters, I'd suggest checking whether the setting for archiving your
> sent Faxes refers to the correct folder, then opening that folder in
Windows
> Explorer to see what appears there.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Steve Mitchell" <spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:o B4Lc.72$pm6.0@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
> > I'm using The fax Console built into win XP and have a problem with the
> sent
> > items folder.
> >
> > Although it lists 14 items in the status bar at the bottom, all are
> > invisible! If I hover the mouse in the right pane where they should be
> > listed a flag appears showing date and time sent. If I double click, the
> > item opens for viewing. But its just not listed. It's almost like white
> text
> > on a white background..... :-s
> >
> > Inbox and Out box are fine, it's only the sent folder.
> >
> > I've tried removing Fax via add/remove programmes twice now to no avail.
> > First time I removed, rebooted and then added back. Second time I left
it
> > over night between. No joy.
> >
> > I feel sure the problem is down to an errant registry key, if only I
knew
> > where to look!
> >
> >
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
>
>
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Anonymous
July 21, 2004 1:32:18 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

Removing and reinstalling rarely solves anything.
How many items are in your SentItems folder when you look in Windows
Explorer? Do they all appear as TIF files and can you open and view them
there? If so, what application launches?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Steve Mitchell" <spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:BKqLc.69$5R5.34@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
> The sent folder is the default.
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
> NT\MSFax\SentItems
>
> Just wondering if the fact that it is the ''All Users'' folder is
relevant?
>
> Mine used to display properly until about 5-6 weeks ago. Not sure of
exactly
> when it stopped working as I only use the program about once a week. the
> number of items and dates suggest that all are there, so we aren't losing
> data, just unable to see.
>
> The fact that hovering the mouse brings up the description flag and that
you
> can double click and open the item is most bizzarre. I've placed a
> screenshot at
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steve-mitchell/tutorial/fa... if
> you want to see excactly what I mean.
>
> I download the windows updates as soon as they are available so perhaps
> there's a link there? Can't think of anything else I've added to my
machine
> recently.
>
> I'm stumped as to why removing and re-installing doesn't solve the
problem.
>
> Steve
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:ejWlyDqbEHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I've seen a handful of similar reports but no one has been able to
> reproduce
> > this problem. Did the items in your Sent Items Folder ever display
> > correctly? If so, what changed before they stopped displaying? How many
> > items would you expect there to be in that Folder? Does 14 sound
accurate
> to
> > you?
> >
> > For starters, I'd suggest checking whether the setting for archiving
your
> > sent Faxes refers to the correct folder, then opening that folder in
> Windows
> > Explorer to see what appears there.
> > --
> > Russ Valentine
> > [MVP-Outlook]
> > "Steve Mitchell" <spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > news:o B4Lc.72$pm6.0@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
> > > I'm using The fax Console built into win XP and have a problem with
the
> > sent
> > > items folder.
> > >
> > > Although it lists 14 items in the status bar at the bottom, all are
> > > invisible! If I hover the mouse in the right pane where they should
be
> > > listed a flag appears showing date and time sent. If I double click,
the
> > > item opens for viewing. But its just not listed. It's almost like
white
> > text
> > > on a white background..... :-s
> > >
> > > Inbox and Out box are fine, it's only the sent folder.
> > >
> > > I've tried removing Fax via add/remove programmes twice now to no
avail.
> > > First time I removed, rebooted and then added back. Second time I left
> it
> > > over night between. No joy.
> > >
> > > I feel sure the problem is down to an errant registry key, if only I
> knew
> > > where to look!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
July 21, 2004 7:09:07 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

In windows explorer there are 15 items (one is the thumbs db file)

By default, double clicking there launches the windows picture and fax
viewer. Right clicking also allows me to use any of the other programs I
have.

Steve

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:o Axtf1wbEHA.1356@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Removing and reinstalling rarely solves anything.
> How many items are in your SentItems folder when you look in Windows
> Explorer? Do they all appear as TIF files and can you open and view them
> there? If so, what application launches?
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Steve Mitchell" <spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:BKqLc.69$5R5.34@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
> > The sent folder is the default.
> >
> > C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
> > NT\MSFax\SentItems
> >
> > Just wondering if the fact that it is the ''All Users'' folder is
> relevant?
> >
> > Mine used to display properly until about 5-6 weeks ago. Not sure of
> exactly
> > when it stopped working as I only use the program about once a week. the
> > number of items and dates suggest that all are there, so we aren't
losing
> > data, just unable to see.
> >
> > The fact that hovering the mouse brings up the description flag and that
> you
> > can double click and open the item is most bizzarre. I've placed a
> > screenshot at
> > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steve-mitchell/tutorial/fa...
if
> > you want to see excactly what I mean.
> >
> > I download the windows updates as soon as they are available so perhaps
> > there's a link there? Can't think of anything else I've added to my
> machine
> > recently.
> >
> > I'm stumped as to why removing and re-installing doesn't solve the
> problem.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:ejWlyDqbEHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > I've seen a handful of similar reports but no one has been able to
> > reproduce
> > > this problem. Did the items in your Sent Items Folder ever display
> > > correctly? If so, what changed before they stopped displaying? How
many
> > > items would you expect there to be in that Folder? Does 14 sound
> accurate
> > to
> > > you?
> > >
> > > For starters, I'd suggest checking whether the setting for archiving
> your
> > > sent Faxes refers to the correct folder, then opening that folder in
> > Windows
> > > Explorer to see what appears there.
> > > --
> > > Russ Valentine
> > > [MVP-Outlook]
> > > "Steve Mitchell" <spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > > news:o B4Lc.72$pm6.0@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
> > > > I'm using The fax Console built into win XP and have a problem with
> the
> > > sent
> > > > items folder.
> > > >
> > > > Although it lists 14 items in the status bar at the bottom, all are
> > > > invisible! If I hover the mouse in the right pane where they should
> be
> > > > listed a flag appears showing date and time sent. If I double click,
> the
> > > > item opens for viewing. But its just not listed. It's almost like
> white
> > > text
> > > > on a white background..... :-s
> > > >
> > > > Inbox and Out box are fine, it's only the sent folder.
> > > >
> > > > I've tried removing Fax via add/remove programmes twice now to no
> avail.
> > > > First time I removed, rebooted and then added back. Second time I
left
> > it
> > > > over night between. No joy.
> > > >
> > > > I feel sure the problem is down to an errant registry key, if only I
> > knew
> > > > where to look!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
July 21, 2004 8:44:25 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

This afternoon I needed to send a fax.

Before doing so I changed the archive folder to point to a different
location. Hey Presto! After sending the fax it was now visible in the sent
folder.

I copied the files over from the old folder and they immediately became
invisible again.

By trial and error I eventually established that just one file was causing
the problem. Presumably it had become corrupt in such a way that it was
still a valid Tiff file, but Fax Console no longer liked it.

Anyway problem solved.

Perhaps if the above makes any sense to you Russ you can offer an
explanation, otherwise might be useful for anyone else suffering the same
symptoms.

Steve

"Steve Mitchell" <spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:nGvLc.515$mO6.81@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> In windows explorer there are 15 items (one is the thumbs db file)
>
> By default, double clicking there launches the windows picture and fax
> viewer. Right clicking also allows me to use any of the other programs I
> have.
>
> Steve
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:o Axtf1wbEHA.1356@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Removing and reinstalling rarely solves anything.
> > How many items are in your SentItems folder when you look in Windows
> > Explorer? Do they all appear as TIF files and can you open and view them
> > there? If so, what application launches?
> > --
> > Russ Valentine
> > [MVP-Outlook]
Anonymous
July 21, 2004 10:44:52 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

How did you establish that "just one file was causing the problem?"
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Steve Mitchell" <spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:J3xLc.678$mO6.468@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> This afternoon I needed to send a fax.
>
> Before doing so I changed the archive folder to point to a different
> location. Hey Presto! After sending the fax it was now visible in the sent
> folder.
>
> I copied the files over from the old folder and they immediately became
> invisible again.
>
> By trial and error I eventually established that just one file was causing
> the problem. Presumably it had become corrupt in such a way that it was
> still a valid Tiff file, but Fax Console no longer liked it.
>
> Anyway problem solved.
>
> Perhaps if the above makes any sense to you Russ you can offer an
> explanation, otherwise might be useful for anyone else suffering the same
> symptoms.
>
> Steve
>
> "Steve Mitchell" <spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:nGvLc.515$mO6.81@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> > In windows explorer there are 15 items (one is the thumbs db file)
> >
> > By default, double clicking there launches the windows picture and fax
> > viewer. Right clicking also allows me to use any of the other programs I
> > have.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:o Axtf1wbEHA.1356@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > Removing and reinstalling rarely solves anything.
> > > How many items are in your SentItems folder when you look in Windows
> > > Explorer? Do they all appear as TIF files and can you open and view
them
> > > there? If so, what application launches?
> > > --
> > > Russ Valentine
> > > [MVP-Outlook]
>
>
Anonymous
July 23, 2004 1:15:21 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

By changing the file before sending the new fax I ended up with just one
file in the sent folder which appeared perfectly.

As soon as I copied over the other saved files from the other folder the
problem re-appeared. So I then tried them one at a time, starting with the
newest thinking it was a particular date point causing the problem. When the
problem re-occurred I removed the file and the problem corrected itself
after I'd closed and re-started fax console. Adding files after the 'corrupt
one' worked ok to. Hence isolating it down to just one file.

Closing and re-starting Fax Console after each change is necessary to.
Presumably that list is built at start up, so no changes are visible until
after you close and re-open it.

Steve

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23$pK7y3bEHA.2388@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> How did you establish that "just one file was causing the problem?"
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
Anonymous
July 23, 2004 1:15:22 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

So there was nothing that indicated the file as corrupt, like an invalid
extension? Could you open this corrupt file from the SentItems folder?
This will be a rather laborious solution, but it's nice to know what caused
it.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Steve Mitchell" <spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:JG4Mc.366$ub4.98@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
> By changing the file before sending the new fax I ended up with just one
> file in the sent folder which appeared perfectly.
>
> As soon as I copied over the other saved files from the other folder the
> problem re-appeared. So I then tried them one at a time, starting with the
> newest thinking it was a particular date point causing the problem. When
the
> problem re-occurred I removed the file and the problem corrected itself
> after I'd closed and re-started fax console. Adding files after the
'corrupt
> one' worked ok to. Hence isolating it down to just one file.
>
> Closing and re-starting Fax Console after each change is necessary to.
> Presumably that list is built at start up, so no changes are visible until
> after you close and re-open it.
>
> Steve
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23$pK7y3bEHA.2388@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > How did you establish that "just one file was causing the problem?"
> > --
> > Russ Valentine
> > [MVP-Outlook]
>
>
Anonymous
July 24, 2004 2:33:53 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

As far as I can see the file looks entirely normal.

It previews in the 'windows picture and fax viewer' in exactly the same way
as the other files.

However, I'm totally certain this file is the cause as the symptoms reappear
ever time it's added back to the folder and disappear as soon as it's
removed.

If it would help I can send you the file and a few of the others as they
don't contain anything confidential.

Steve


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uyKjn2JcEHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> So there was nothing that indicated the file as corrupt, like an invalid
> extension? Could you open this corrupt file from the SentItems folder?
> This will be a rather laborious solution, but it's nice to know what
caused
> it.
> --
> Russ Valentine
> [MVP-Outlook]
> "Steve Mitchell" <spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:JG4Mc.366$ub4.98@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
> > By changing the file before sending the new fax I ended up with just one
> > file in the sent folder which appeared perfectly.
> >
> > As soon as I copied over the other saved files from the other folder the
> > problem re-appeared. So I then tried them one at a time, starting with
the
> > newest thinking it was a particular date point causing the problem. When
> the
> > problem re-occurred I removed the file and the problem corrected itself
> > after I'd closed and re-started fax console. Adding files after the
> 'corrupt
> > one' worked ok to. Hence isolating it down to just one file.
> >
> > Closing and re-starting Fax Console after each change is necessary to.
> > Presumably that list is built at start up, so no changes are visible
until
> > after you close and re-open it.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:%23$pK7y3bEHA.2388@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > How did you establish that "just one file was causing the problem?"
> > > --
> > > Russ Valentine
> > > [MVP-Outlook]
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
July 24, 2004 2:33:54 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

Please do. This is the closest we've come to nailing this down. And thanks
for the good troubleshooting.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Steve Mitchell" <spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:lngMc.996$ft2.211@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
> As far as I can see the file looks entirely normal.
>
> It previews in the 'windows picture and fax viewer' in exactly the same
way
> as the other files.
>
> However, I'm totally certain this file is the cause as the symptoms
reappear
> ever time it's added back to the folder and disappear as soon as it's
> removed.
>
> If it would help I can send you the file and a few of the others as they
> don't contain anything confidential.
>
> Steve
>
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uyKjn2JcEHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > So there was nothing that indicated the file as corrupt, like an invalid
> > extension? Could you open this corrupt file from the SentItems folder?
> > This will be a rather laborious solution, but it's nice to know what
> caused
> > it.
> > --
> > Russ Valentine
> > [MVP-Outlook]
> > "Steve Mitchell" <spam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > news:JG4Mc.366$ub4.98@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
> > > By changing the file before sending the new fax I ended up with just
one
> > > file in the sent folder which appeared perfectly.
> > >
> > > As soon as I copied over the other saved files from the other folder
the
> > > problem re-appeared. So I then tried them one at a time, starting with
> the
> > > newest thinking it was a particular date point causing the problem.
When
> > the
> > > problem re-occurred I removed the file and the problem corrected
itself
> > > after I'd closed and re-started fax console. Adding files after the
> > 'corrupt
> > > one' worked ok to. Hence isolating it down to just one file.
> > >
> > > Closing and re-starting Fax Console after each change is necessary to.
> > > Presumably that list is built at start up, so no changes are visible
> until
> > > after you close and re-open it.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" <russval@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > > news:%23$pK7y3bEHA.2388@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > How did you establish that "just one file was causing the problem?"
> > > > --
> > > > Russ Valentine
> > > > [MVP-Outlook]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
!