LOW FPS- GTA IV - what should I do???

[sarah_diamond]

Well this is my system info:

MB: Gigabyte P35
CPU: Intel core 2 Duo, E4600 2.4 GHz ( DDR II )
RAM: 5 ( 3.5 Usable)
Graphic Card: AMD radeon 6570 HD 2 GB memory
OS: Win 7 Home Premium, 32 Bit

When I launch GTA IV my setting is automatically set to:
rendering: High
texture: High
distance: 54
details: 42
car density: 52
shadow density: 6
resolution: 1360*768 (my monitors native resolution is also 1360*768)
MY FPS is Only 15 !!

so I changed the setting,

I set texture and rendering quality to "Low"
resolution is 1360*768
shadow: 1
vehicle density: 1
view distance: 1
details: 1

and FPs jumped to 18

what can I do to increase my FPS ???

Note: I have played this game before with my PC ( with current hardware and devices, but my graphic card was a Geforce 8600 GT, 512 memory) and I had no problem. Yesterday I inserted Geforce graphic card instead of AMD, but it didnt change at all.

 

[Thornyjohny]

Try this:

Go to your GTA IV folder, and see if there is a .txt file called "commandline". If there is, and it says something that starts with "memrestrict", close it and make a backup copy. Then, clear the command line, then paste this: -noprecache -nomemrestrict -norestrictions

That's part of my commandline, I made my GTA IV work properly with that. If this doesn't work for you, then go back to your original commandline (this is why the backup copy is important). After that, try updating to v1.0.7. and using my commandline.
I would also recommend updating even if there is no commandline.txt file.

Best of luck!

 

[sarah_diamond]

There's no .txt file called commandline
What should I do? :-(

 

[HEXiT]

patch to 1.04 pray your dualcore is fast enough...
the game really needs a quad to run ultra smooth.
you have already done the only thing you can do, in that you reduced everything and got an fps boost..

as for the above. open the games icon via right click and properties. you will see a comnand line thats something like "c: prog files(x86)/rockstar/gta4.exe" thats the command line
paste in the following putting 1 space after the end quote of the original command line text.
" -noprecache -nomemrestrict -norestrictions

 

[venjhammet]

Or you can lower your Resolution to 1024 x 768 to increase fps. GTA 4 prefers a quadcore

 

[sarah_diamond]

patch to 1.04 pray your dualcore is fast enough...
the game really needs a quad to run ultra smooth.
you have already done the only thing you can do, in that you reduced everything and got an fps boost..

as for the above. open the games icon via right click and properties. you will see a comnand line thats something like "c: prog files(x86)/rockstar/gta4.exe" thats the command line
paste in the following putting 1 space after the end quote of the original command line text.
" -noprecache -nomemrestrict -norestrictions

I changed the game setting as low as I could ( 800*600 resolution) it really did NOT boost at all, fps jumped to 19

Anyway, I'm going to try your tip

 

[sarah_diamond]

guys, seems like my fps doesn't like to go over 19

 

[Thornyjohny]

How much graphics memory is it using? It should be shown in the graphics options.

 

[HEXiT]

looks like your at the limit of what your cpu can do... if you have decent cooling you may be able to bump your cpu to 3.0ghz and that should give a sizable fps boost, but like i say its probably the cpu's thats holding this badly ported mess back...

 

[sarah_diamond]

@Thornyjohny: I have 2 graphic cards, an AMD HD 6570 2 GB, 128bit DDR 3
another Geforce 8600 GT 512mb

both of them have the same performance, low fps
The game is using only 271 MB memory

@hexit: my CPU temprature is really high, mostly about 70 to 80 C.

I was playing this game on my PC a few months ago and i had no problem, I dont know whats wrong with it

 

[Guest]

Did you remove the Nvidia drivers before installing the AMD GPU?

 

[Thornyjohny]

The game is using only 271 MB memory

This shows that GTA IV is only using an eighth of your available memory (I'm assuming you're using the Radeon)
Try the command line solution I posted earlier. I had the same problem and this worked for me.

There's no .txt file called commandline
What should I do? :-(

Make a .txt file called commandline, of course!

 

[Gothams Finest]

I would recommend you buy the GTX 460 and if possible upgrade your CPU to a quad core.

Upgrading to Windows 7 64bit and having 4GB of useable memory will also help.

 

[divJ]

don't upgrade your computer just for this game... i dont know whats wrong with it but i ran this game on my old dual core on similar kinda settings with a 9400gt... theres no point in upgrading and spending your precious money on this game...
i currently have a 550ti and a fx4100 and surprisingly.. it lags on my pc even at the lowest settings with the patches installed...

But u surely need to upgrade that OS to win 7 ultimate 64bit...

 

[Gothams Finest]

don't upgrade your computer just for this game... i dont know whats wrong with it but i ran this game on my old dual core on similar kinda settings with a 9400gt... theres no point in upgrading and spending your precious money on this game...

There is a big difference between just managing to run a game and running a game well...and cleary running a game at 18fps on the lowest settings is not running it well.

i currently have a 550ti and a fx4100 and surprisingly.. it lags on my pc even at the lowest settings with the patches installed..

Not that surprising really.

 

[jimmysmitty]

I would recommend you buy the GTX 460 and if possible upgrade your CPU to a quad core.

Upgrading to Windows 7 64bit and having 4GB of useable memory will also help.

This.

While the GPU will help though, its the CPU thats limiting you. This same thing happened at launch, people had dual core E8500s oced to 4GHz+ and couldn't play the game on any settings but a quad core at 3GHz had almost no issues.

 

[divJ]

There is a big difference between just managing to run a game and running a game well...and cleary running a game at 18fps on the lowest settings is not running it well.



Not that surprising really.

maybe you didnt understand... but i ran this game on medium settings smoothly on a dual core and 9400gt... and it aint running on the lowest settings on fx4100 .... you are trying to say that gta 4 prefers an old dual core in place of a quad ?

 

[Gothams Finest]

maybe you didnt understand... but i ran this game on medium settings smoothly on a dual core and 9400gt... and it aint running on the lowest settings on fx4100 .... you are trying to say that gta 4 prefers an old dual core in place of a quad ?

No, I'm saying your computer isn't very good.

 

[divJ]

No, I'm saying your computer isn't very good.

guess you should shove that thought up your ass

 

[Supernova1138]

maybe you didnt understand... but i ran this game on medium settings smoothly on a dual core and 9400gt... and it aint running on the lowest settings on fx4100 .... you are trying to say that gta 4 prefers an old dual core in place of a quad ?

It's probably an issue with GTA IV and the FX4100. The 4100 isn't a true quad core, it's 2 sets of 2 cores that share floating point resources. The Windows 7 scheduler doesn't use these "cores" that effectively which doesn't help. The FX also suffers from some pretty bad cache latency, which really negatively effects GTA IV for some reason. If you want good performance in GTA IV with that CPU, get yourself a good cooler and OC that thing as high as it will go. There's a reason that the Phenom IIs are still the preferred gaming CPU on the AMD side.

 

[Gothams Finest]

guess you should shove that thought up your ass

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