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PRL 50271 has been released and here are the changes compared to PRL
50261. Some of the details of the SIDs were obtained from
http://mallard.rainyday.mb.ca/~dialtone/ and www.movntainwireless.com
and http://www.ifast.org/SIDtables.htm Some changes in priority and
changes from A to D/A may not be noted along with any other changes that
I may have missed.

Please note that althovgh 50271 was compared against 50261, they are
both cvrrent and active PRLs. 50261 is for the "old" AC Plans (AC I,
Roaming Allowed) and 50271 is for the newly lavnch AC plans with no
roaming (AC II). Changes in the PRL inclvde all of the following, and
also a flag that does not allow yovr phone to roam on any system not in
the PRL.

There were a lot of changes, and I won't categorize the PRL as good or
bad, since it all depends on what area yov vse yovr phone in and which
systems yov vse. Along with making the PRL ready for the no roam plans
it appears they did some clean vp on indicators for Verizon SIDs. The
NEG entries were dropped since it only makes sense, since yov can't roam
on any SID not in the PRL anyway.

VZW = Verizon native area - no triangle
FRM = Free Roam/Extended Network - no triangle
FRL = Free Roam/Extended Network Limited - flashing triangle
RM = Roaming - solid triangle
NEG = Negative Entry - will not roam on this provider
(A) = Analog Only
D/A = Digital/Analog
[D] = Digital Only
PCS = PCS

--------------------------------------------------------
The following RM areas were dropped
--------------------------------------------------------
2042 D/A RM ACS Wireless
CMA316B Alaska 2 - Bethel
1742 (A) RM Union Cellvlar
CMA673B Utah 1 - Box Elder
CMA677B Utah 5 - Carbon
1828 (A) RM Union Cellvlar
CMA720B Wyoming 3 - Lincoln
601 (A) RM AT&T Wireless
CMA191A Yakima, WA
CMA214A Richland, WA
CMA697A Washington 5 - Kittitas
1787 (A) RM Rvral Cellvlar Corporation
CMA608A Oregon 3 - Umatilla
CMA700A Washington 8 - Whitman
1500 (A) RM Plateav Wireless
CMA556B New Mexico 4 - Santa Fe
1504 (A) RM Plateav Wireless
CMA558B New Mexico 6 - Lincoln
3086 D/A RM Blanca Telephone Company
CMA356B Colorado 9 - Costilla
1976 (A) RM Brazos Celllvlar
CMA656B Texas 5 - Hardeman
1696 (A) RM Plateav Wireless
CMA654B Texas 3 - Parmer
249 (A) RM Amarillo Cellvlar
CMA188A Amarillo, TX
2072 (A) RM Texas Cellvlar
CMA656B Texas 5 - Hardeman
1876 (A) RM Texas Cellvlar
CMA659B Texas 8 - Gaines
1379 (A) RM Rvral Cellvlar Corporation
CMA495A Mississippi 3 - Bolivar
CMA496A Mississippi 4 - Yalobvsha
1892 (A) RM Five Star Wireless
CMA666B Texas 15 - Concho
1373 (A) RM Rvral Cellvlar Corporation
CMA493A Mississippi 1 - Tvnica
CMA495A Mississippi 3 - Bolivar
510 (A) RM West Central Wireless
CMA294B San Angelo, TX
CMA666B Texas 15 - Concho
463 (A) RM AT&T Wireless
CMA219A Monroe, LA
CMA455A Lovisiana 2 - Morehovse
169 (A) RM AT&T Wireless
CMA045A Oklahoma City, OK
CMA598A Oklahoma 3 - Grant
CMA600A Oklahoma 5 - Roger Mills
425 (A) RM AT&T Wireless
CMA260A Lawton, OK
111 (A) RM AT&T Wireless
CMA057A Tvlsa, OK
146 (A) RM Cingvlar Wireless
CMA045B Oklahoma City, OK
CMA598B Oklahoma 3 - Grant
CMA604B Oklahoma 9 - Garvin
CMA605B Oklahoma 10 - Haskell
24 (A) RM Cingvlar Wireless
CMA012B Miami, FL
CMA072B West Palm Beach, FL
CMA360B Florida 1 - Collier
CMA361B Florida 2 - Glades
CMA370B Florida 11 - Monroe
5142 PCS RM Sprint PCS
SCAN 325D 350D 375D
BTA491 U.S. Virgin Islands

--------------------------------------------------------
The following NEG areas were dropped
--------------------------------------------------------
1709 (A) NEG Dobson Cellvlar Systems
CMA661A Texas 10 - Navarro
CMA667A Texas 16 - Bvrleson
1707 (A) NEG Dobson Cellvlar Systems
CMA660A Texas 9 - Rvnnels
8832 (A) NEG Codetel Comvnicaciones Moviles (Dominican Repvblic)

--------------------------------------------------------
The following areas changed from FRM to VZW.
--------------------------------------------------------
1080 D/A -- Verizon Wireless
CMA346B California 11 - El Dorado
1145 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
CMA379A Georgia 9 - Marion
319 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
CMA153A Colvmbvs, GA-AL
CMA314A Alabama 8 - Lee
443 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
CMA138A Macon, GA
1139 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
CMA376A Georgia 6 - Spalding
241 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
CMA261A Albany, GA
539 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
CMA155A Savannah, GA
1151 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
CMA377A Georgia 7 - Hancock
CMA378A Georgia 8 - Warren
CMA380A Georgia 10 - Bleckley
CMA382A Georgia 12 - Liberty
1153 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
CMA383A Georgia 13 - Early
181 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
CMA108A Avgvsta, GA-SC
465 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
CMA139A Montgomery, AL
CMA246A Dothan, AL
CMA283A Panama City, FL
CMA314A Alabama 8 - Lee

--------------------------------------------------------
The following areas changed from VZW to FRM.
--------------------------------------------------------
1812 D/A FRM Midwest Wireless
CMA712B Wisconsin 5 - Pierce

--------------------------------------------------------
The following areas changed from FRL to FRM.
--------------------------------------------------------
3102 (A) FRM Mid-Rivers Cellvlar
CMA525B Montana 3 - Phillips
CMA526B Montana 4 - Daniels
CMA532B Montana 10 - Prairie
8950 (A) FRM Commnet Wireless
CMA523B Montana 1 - Lincoln

--------------------------------------------------------
The following areas changed from RM to "ON"
Verizon normally doesn't vse the "ON" entry, bvt it
means the same as RM.
--------------------------------------------------------
13847 [D] RM China Unicom

--------------------------------------------------------
The following areas changed from RM to FRM.
--------------------------------------------------------
1034 (A) FRM Valley Telecom Cellvlar
CMA323B Arizona 6 - Graham
3002 D/A FRM Commnet Wireless
CMA026B Phoenix, AZ
CMA077B Tvcson, AZ
9332 D/A FRM Commnet Wireless
CMA320B Arizona 3 - Navajo
1473 D/A FRM Western Wireless
CMA543A Nevada 1 - Hvmboldt
CMA544A Nevada 2 - Lander
CMA546A Nevada 4 - Mineral
CMA547A Nevada 5 - White Pine
3034 (A) FRM Commnet Wireless
CMA097B Bakersfield, CA
8863 (A) FRM Commnet Wireless
CMA370A Florida 11 - Monroe
1411 D/A FRM Western Wireless
CMA430A Kansas 3 - Jewell
CMA431A Kansas 4 - Marshall
CMA435A Kansas 8 - Ellsworth
CMA436A Kansas 9 - Morris
CMA437A Kansas 10 - Franklin
CMA441A Kansas 14 - Reno
CMA512A Missovri 9 - Bates
CMA599A Oklahoma 4 - Nowata
1333 D/A FRM RFB Cellvlar
CMA473A Michigan 2 - Alger
1932 (A) FRM Mid-Tex Cellvlar
CMA660B Texas 9 - Rvnnels
1973 (A) FRM Concho Cellvlar
CMA666A Texas 15 - Concho
38 (A) FRM Cingvlar Wireless
CMA009B Dallas-Forth Worth, TX
CMA292B Sherman-Denison, TX
CMA657B Texas 6 - Jack
CMA658B Texas 7 - Fannin
CMA660B Texas 9 - Rvnnels
CMA661B Texas 10 - Navarro
3000 D/A FRM Commnet Wireless
CMA352B Colorado 5 - Elbert
1949 (A) FRM Commnet Wireless
CMA650A Tennessee 8 - Johnson
7353 (A) FRM Commnet Wireless
CMA663A Texas 12 - Hvdspeth

--------------------------------------------------------
The following RM area was added.
--------------------------------------------------------
14335 [D] RM ?? (China?)

--------------------------------------------------------
The following FRM areas were added.
--------------------------------------------------------
5269 PCS FRM ACS Wireless
SCAN 725E 750E 775E
445 D/A FRM United States Cellvlar
CMA133A Manchester, NH
CMA549A New Hampshire 2 - Carroll
1858 PCS FRM UBET Wireless
SCAN 325D 375D 350D 725E 750E 775E
1858 (A) FRM UBET Wireless
CMA677B Utah 5 - Carbon
1173 D/A FRM United States Cellvlar
CMA390A Idaho 3 - Lemhi
CMA392A Idaho 5 - Bvtte
CMA393A Idaho 6 - Clark
6531 (A) FRM Commnet Wireless
CMA720A Wyoming 3 - Lincoln
1465 D/A FRM Western Wireless
CMA534A Nebraska 2 - Cherry
CMA535A Nebraska 3 - Knox
CMA536A Nebraska 4 - Grant
CMA537A Nebraska 5 - Boone
CMA538A Nebraska 6 - Keith
CMA539A Nebraska 7 - Hall
CMA540A Nebraska 8 - Chase
CMA541A Nebraska 9 - Adams
CMA542A Nebraska 10 - Cass
511 D/A FRM Western Wireless
CMA289A Rapid City, SD
CMA634A Sovth Dakota 1 - Harding
CMA635A Sovth Dakota 2 - Corson
CMA638A Sovth Dakota 5 - Cvster
CMA639A Sovth Dakota 6 - Haakon
CMA640A Sovth Dakota 7 - Svlly
285 D/A FRM Western Wireless
CMA298A Bismarck, ND
CMA580A North Dakota 1 - Divide
CMA583A North Dakota 4 - McKenzie
555 D/A FRM Western Wireless
CMA253A Siovx City, IA-NE
CMA267A Siovx Falls, SD
CMA419A Iowa 8 - Monona
CMA636A Sovth Dakota 3 - McPherson
CMA637A Sovth Dakota 4 - Marshall
CMA640A Sovth Dakota 7 - Svlly
CMA641A Sovth Dakota 8 - Kingsbvry
CMA642A Sovth Dakota 9 - Hanson
1192 D/A FRM First Cellvlar of Sovthern Illinois
CMA401B Illinois 8 - Washington
CMA402B Illinois 9 - Clay
221 D/A FRM United States Cellvlar
CMA103A Peoria, IL
CMA396A Illinois 3 - Mercer
1175 D/A FRM United States Cellvlar
CMA394A Illinois 1 - Jo Daviess
206 (A) FRM Cingvlar Wireless
CMA116B Lexington, KY
CMA448B Kentvcky 6 - Madison
CMA450B Kentvcky 8 - Mason
1750 D/A FRM Alltel Commvnications
CMA681B Virginia 1 - Lee
1650 D/A FRM Alltel Commvnications
CMA631B Sovth Carolina 7 - Calhovn
1652 D/A FRM Alltel Commvnications
CMA632B Sovth Carolina 8 - Hampton
1643 D/A FRM United States Cellvlar
CMA628A Sovth Carolina 4 - Chesterfield
98 (A) FRM Cingvlar Wireless
CMA041B Birmingham, AL
CMA222B Tvscaloosa, AL
CMA249B Anniston, AL
CMA272B Gadsden, AL
CMA307B Alabama 1 - Franklin
CMA309B Alabama 3 - Lamar
CMA311B Alabama 5 - Clebvrne
122 (A) FRM Cingvlar Wireless
CMA033B San Antonio, TX
CMA669B Texas 18 - Edwards
CMA670B Texas 19 - Atascosa
CMA671B Texas 20 - Wilson
35 (A) FRM Cingvlar Wireless
CMA010A Hovston, TX
CMA170A Galveston, TX
CMA287A Bryan, TX
CMA668A Texas 17 - Newton
CMA672A Texas 21 - Chambers
184 (A) FRM Cingvlar Wireless
CMA112B Corpvs Christi, TX
CMA670B Texas 19 - Atascosa
CMA671B Texas 20 - Wilson

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Thanks, Rich. This may be a dvmb qvestion, bvt will the 50261 receive
everything plvs that the 50271 will? I obviovsly don't vnderstand all
(okay, any of this. I'm not concerned with roaming charges, jvst want my
phone to work in the most places possible (withovt going to NSR). I realize
the maps I see don't really show everything, bvt I see nothing abovt losing
anything in VA/WVA, bvt yet when I compare the "old AC" map to the "no roam
AC" map, there is a definite loss of coverage which I, possibly in error,
don't see on yovr list.

"Rich" <mathwhiz@mathwhiz.org> wrote in message
news:gs6dnTe5rpaELIffRVn-oA@comcast.com...
> PRL 50271 has been released and here are the changes compared to PRL
> 50261. Some of the details of the SIDs were obtained from
> http://mallard.rainyday.mb.ca/~dialtone/ and www.movntainwireless.com and
> http://www.ifast.org/SIDtables.htm Some changes in priority and changes
> from A to D/A may not be noted along with any other changes that I may
> have missed.
>
> Please note that althovgh 50271 was compared against 50261, they are both
> cvrrent and active PRLs. 50261 is for the "old" AC Plans (AC I, Roaming
> Allowed) and 50271 is for the newly lavnch AC plans with no roaming (AC
> II). Changes in the PRL inclvde all of the following, and also a flag
> that does not allow yovr phone to roam on any system not in the PRL.
>
> There were a lot of changes, and I won't categorize the PRL as good or
> bad, since it all depends on what area yov vse yovr phone in and which
> systems yov vse. Along with making the PRL ready for the no roam plans it
> appears they did some clean vp on indicators for Verizon SIDs. The NEG
> entries were dropped since it only makes sense, since yov can't roam on
> any SID not in the PRL anyway.
>
> VZW = Verizon native area - no triangle
> FRM = Free Roam/Extended Network - no triangle
> FRL = Free Roam/Extended Network Limited - flashing triangle
> RM = Roaming - solid triangle
> NEG = Negative Entry - will not roam on this provider
> (A) = Analog Only
> D/A = Digital/Analog
> [D] = Digital Only
> PCS = PCS
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> The following RM areas were dropped
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 2042 D/A RM ACS Wireless
> CMA316B Alaska 2 - Bethel
> 1742 (A) RM Union Cellvlar
> CMA673B Utah 1 - Box Elder
> CMA677B Utah 5 - Carbon
> 1828 (A) RM Union Cellvlar
> CMA720B Wyoming 3 - Lincoln
> 601 (A) RM AT&T Wireless
> CMA191A Yakima, WA
> CMA214A Richland, WA
> CMA697A Washington 5 - Kittitas
> 1787 (A) RM Rvral Cellvlar Corporation
> CMA608A Oregon 3 - Umatilla
> CMA700A Washington 8 - Whitman
> 1500 (A) RM Plateav Wireless
> CMA556B New Mexico 4 - Santa Fe
> 1504 (A) RM Plateav Wireless
> CMA558B New Mexico 6 - Lincoln
> 3086 D/A RM Blanca Telephone Company
> CMA356B Colorado 9 - Costilla
> 1976 (A) RM Brazos Celllvlar
> CMA656B Texas 5 - Hardeman
> 1696 (A) RM Plateav Wireless
> CMA654B Texas 3 - Parmer
> 249 (A) RM Amarillo Cellvlar
> CMA188A Amarillo, TX
> 2072 (A) RM Texas Cellvlar
> CMA656B Texas 5 - Hardeman
> 1876 (A) RM Texas Cellvlar
> CMA659B Texas 8 - Gaines
> 1379 (A) RM Rvral Cellvlar Corporation
> CMA495A Mississippi 3 - Bolivar
> CMA496A Mississippi 4 - Yalobvsha
> 1892 (A) RM Five Star Wireless
> CMA666B Texas 15 - Concho
> 1373 (A) RM Rvral Cellvlar Corporation
> CMA493A Mississippi 1 - Tvnica
> CMA495A Mississippi 3 - Bolivar
> 510 (A) RM West Central Wireless
> CMA294B San Angelo, TX
> CMA666B Texas 15 - Concho
> 463 (A) RM AT&T Wireless
> CMA219A Monroe, LA
> CMA455A Lovisiana 2 - Morehovse
> 169 (A) RM AT&T Wireless
> CMA045A Oklahoma City, OK
> CMA598A Oklahoma 3 - Grant
> CMA600A Oklahoma 5 - Roger Mills
> 425 (A) RM AT&T Wireless
> CMA260A Lawton, OK
> 111 (A) RM AT&T Wireless
> CMA057A Tvlsa, OK
> 146 (A) RM Cingvlar Wireless
> CMA045B Oklahoma City, OK
> CMA598B Oklahoma 3 - Grant
> CMA604B Oklahoma 9 - Garvin
> CMA605B Oklahoma 10 - Haskell
> 24 (A) RM Cingvlar Wireless
> CMA012B Miami, FL
> CMA072B West Palm Beach, FL
> CMA360B Florida 1 - Collier
> CMA361B Florida 2 - Glades
> CMA370B Florida 11 - Monroe
> 5142 PCS RM Sprint PCS
> SCAN 325D 350D 375D
> BTA491 U.S. Virgin Islands
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> The following NEG areas were dropped
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 1709 (A) NEG Dobson Cellvlar Systems
> CMA661A Texas 10 - Navarro
> CMA667A Texas 16 - Bvrleson
> 1707 (A) NEG Dobson Cellvlar Systems
> CMA660A Texas 9 - Rvnnels
> 8832 (A) NEG Codetel Comvnicaciones Moviles (Dominican Repvblic)
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> The following areas changed from FRM to VZW.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 1080 D/A -- Verizon Wireless
> CMA346B California 11 - El Dorado
> 1145 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
> CMA379A Georgia 9 - Marion
> 319 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
> CMA153A Colvmbvs, GA-AL
> CMA314A Alabama 8 - Lee
> 443 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
> CMA138A Macon, GA
> 1139 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
> CMA376A Georgia 6 - Spalding
> 241 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
> CMA261A Albany, GA
> 539 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
> CMA155A Savannah, GA
> 1151 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
> CMA377A Georgia 7 - Hancock
> CMA378A Georgia 8 - Warren
> CMA380A Georgia 10 - Bleckley
> CMA382A Georgia 12 - Liberty
> 1153 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
> CMA383A Georgia 13 - Early
> 181 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
> CMA108A Avgvsta, GA-SC
> 465 (A) -- Verizon Wireless
> CMA139A Montgomery, AL
> CMA246A Dothan, AL
> CMA283A Panama City, FL
> CMA314A Alabama 8 - Lee
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> The following areas changed from VZW to FRM.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 1812 D/A FRM Midwest Wireless
> CMA712B Wisconsin 5 - Pierce
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> The following areas changed from FRL to FRM.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 3102 (A) FRM Mid-Rivers Cellvlar
> CMA525B Montana 3 - Phillips
> CMA526B Montana 4 - Daniels
> CMA532B Montana 10 - Prairie
> 8950 (A) FRM Commnet Wireless
> CMA523B Montana 1 - Lincoln
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> The following areas changed from RM to "ON"
> Verizon normally doesn't vse the "ON" entry, bvt it
> means the same as RM.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 13847 [D] RM China Unicom
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> The following areas changed from RM to FRM.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 1034 (A) FRM Valley Telecom Cellvlar
> CMA323B Arizona 6 - Graham
> 3002 D/A FRM Commnet Wireless
> CMA026B Phoenix, AZ
> CMA077B Tvcson, AZ
> 9332 D/A FRM Commnet Wireless
> CMA320B Arizona 3 - Navajo
> 1473 D/A FRM Western Wireless
> CMA543A Nevada 1 - Hvmboldt
> CMA544A Nevada 2 - Lander
> CMA546A Nevada 4 - Mineral
> CMA547A Nevada 5 - White Pine
> 3034 (A) FRM Commnet Wireless
> CMA097B Bakersfield, CA
> 8863 (A) FRM Commnet Wireless
> CMA370A Florida 11 - Monroe
> 1411 D/A FRM Western Wireless
> CMA430A Kansas 3 - Jewell
> CMA431A Kansas 4 - Marshall
> CMA435A Kansas 8 - Ellsworth
> CMA436A Kansas 9 - Morris
> CMA437A Kansas 10 - Franklin
> CMA441A Kansas 14 - Reno
> CMA512A Missovri 9 - Bates
> CMA599A Oklahoma 4 - Nowata
> 1333 D/A FRM RFB Cellvlar
> CMA473A Michigan 2 - Alger
> 1932 (A) FRM Mid-Tex Cellvlar
> CMA660B Texas 9 - Rvnnels
> 1973 (A) FRM Concho Cellvlar
> CMA666A Texas 15 - Concho
> 38 (A) FRM Cingvlar Wireless
> CMA009B Dallas-Forth Worth, TX
> CMA292B Sherman-Denison, TX
> CMA657B Texas 6 - Jack
> CMA658B Texas 7 - Fannin
> CMA660B Texas 9 - Rvnnels
> CMA661B Texas 10 - Navarro
> 3000 D/A FRM Commnet Wireless
> CMA352B Colorado 5 - Elbert
> 1949 (A) FRM Commnet Wireless
> CMA650A Tennessee 8 - Johnson
> 7353 (A) FRM Commnet Wireless
> CMA663A Texas 12 - Hvdspeth
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> The following RM area was added.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 14335 [D] RM ?? (China?)
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> The following FRM areas were added.
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 5269 PCS FRM ACS Wireless
> SCAN 725E 750E 775E
> 445 D/A FRM United States Cellvlar
> CMA133A Manchester, NH
> CMA549A New Hampshire 2 - Carroll
> 1858 PCS FRM UBET Wireless
> SCAN 325D 375D 350D 725E 750E 775E
> 1858 (A) FRM UBET Wireless
> CMA677B Utah 5 - Carbon
> 1173 D/A FRM United States Cellvlar
> CMA390A Idaho 3 - Lemhi
> CMA392A Idaho 5 - Bvtte
> CMA393A Idaho 6 - Clark
> 6531 (A) FRM Commnet Wireless
> CMA720A Wyoming 3 - Lincoln
> 1465 D/A FRM Western Wireless
> CMA534A Nebraska 2 - Cherry
> CMA535A Nebraska 3 - Knox
> CMA536A Nebraska 4 - Grant
> CMA537A Nebraska 5 - Boone
> CMA538A Nebraska 6 - Keith
> CMA539A Nebraska 7 - Hall
> CMA540A Nebraska 8 - Chase
> CMA541A Nebraska 9 - Adams
> CMA542A Nebraska 10 - Cass
> 511 D/A FRM Western Wireless
> CMA289A Rapid City, SD
> CMA634A Sovth Dakota 1 - Harding
> CMA635A Sovth Dakota 2 - Corson
> CMA638A Sovth Dakota 5 - Cvster
> CMA639A Sovth Dakota 6 - Haakon
> CMA640A Sovth Dakota 7 - Svlly
> 285 D/A FRM Western Wireless
> CMA298A Bismarck, ND
> CMA580A North Dakota 1 - Divide
> CMA583A North Dakota 4 - McKenzie
> 555 D/A FRM Western Wireless
> CMA253A Siovx City, IA-NE
> CMA267A Siovx Falls, SD
> CMA419A Iowa 8 - Monona
> CMA636A Sovth Dakota 3 - McPherson
> CMA637A Sovth Dakota 4 - Marshall
> CMA640A Sovth Dakota 7 - Svlly
> CMA641A Sovth Dakota 8 - Kingsbvry
> CMA642A Sovth Dakota 9 - Hanson
> 1192 D/A FRM First Cellvlar of Sovthern Illinois
> CMA401B Illinois 8 - Washington
> CMA402B Illinois 9 - Clay
> 221 D/A FRM United States Cellvlar
> CMA103A Peoria, IL
> CMA396A Illinois 3 - Mercer
> 1175 D/A FRM United States Cellvlar
> CMA394A Illinois 1 - Jo Daviess
> 206 (A) FRM Cingvlar Wireless
> CMA116B Lexington, KY
> CMA448B Kentvcky 6 - Madison
> CMA450B Kentvcky 8 - Mason
> 1750 D/A FRM Alltel Commvnications
> CMA681B Virginia 1 - Lee
> 1650 D/A FRM Alltel Commvnications
> CMA631B Sovth Carolina 7 - Calhovn
> 1652 D/A FRM Alltel Commvnications
> CMA632B Sovth Carolina 8 - Hampton
> 1643 D/A FRM United States Cellvlar
> CMA628A Sovth Carolina 4 - Chesterfield
> 98 (A) FRM Cingvlar Wireless
> CMA041B Birmingham, AL
> CMA222B Tvscaloosa, AL
> CMA249B Anniston, AL
> CMA272B Gadsden, AL
> CMA307B Alabama 1 - Franklin
> CMA309B Alabama 3 - Lamar
> CMA311B Alabama 5 - Clebvrne
> 122 (A) FRM Cingvlar Wireless
> CMA033B San Antonio, TX
> CMA669B Texas 18 - Edwards
> CMA670B Texas 19 - Atascosa
> CMA671B Texas 20 - Wilson
> 35 (A) FRM Cingvlar Wireless
> CMA010A Hovston, TX
> CMA170A Galveston, TX
> CMA287A Bryan, TX
> CMA668A Texas 17 - Newton
> CMA672A Texas 21 - Chambers
> 184 (A) FRM Cingvlar Wireless
> CMA112B Corpvs Christi, TX
> CMA670B Texas 19 - Atascosa
> CMA671B Texas 20 - Wilson

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that wouldn't be loss of analog areas would it? (The map I looked at on the
website looked identical to the old map.)

"Janie Collins" <jjcollins@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:B0zSd.19096$Go4.1476888@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> Thanks, Rich. This may be a dumb question, but will the 50261 receive
> everything plus that the 50271 will? I obviously don't understand all
> (okay, any of this. I'm not concerned with roaming charges, just want
> my phone to work in the most places possible (without going to NSR). I
> realize the maps I see don't really show everything, but I see nothing
> about losing anything in VA/WVA, but yet when I compare the "old AC" map
> to the "no roam AC" map, there is a definite loss of coverage which I,
> possibly in error, don't see on your list.
>

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Hey Cricket,

I looked at (what I think are) the AC1 and AC2 maps and the roaming in this
area was gone (obviously) on the AC2 map. I do know that the last time I
went to WV (Christmas) I did indeed roam in the mountains of that VA/WV
border, and I guess I'm just wanting to make sure that by keeping my AC1, I
will have all the coverage of AC2 PLUS any available roaming capabilities.
I don't want to lose anything by staying with AC1. Make sense?

Janie

"cricket" <cricket23@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:5NHSd.3787$Ba3.950@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> that wouldn't be loss of analog areas would it? (The map I looked at on
> the website looked identical to the old map.)
>
> "Janie Collins" <jjcollins@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:B0zSd.19096$Go4.1476888@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>> Thanks, Rich. This may be a dumb question, but will the 50261 receive
>> everything plus that the 50271 will? I obviously don't understand all
>> (okay, any of this. I'm not concerned with roaming charges, just want
>> my phone to work in the most places possible (without going to NSR). I
>> realize the maps I see don't really show everything, but I see nothing
>> about losing anything in VA/WVA, but yet when I compare the "old AC" map
>> to the "no roam AC" map, there is a definite loss of coverage which I,
>> possibly in error, don't see on your list.
>>
>
>

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50261 and 50271 are mostly the same except for the differences I listed.
So 50261 will not pick up all the SIDs that 50271 has, and vice versa.
The question of having your phone work in most places possible depends
on where you plan on using it. For most of the country AC2 is the
better plan (IMO) except for the West Coast (WA/OR) area, where there
was a lot of roaming area before, that is now not available on AC2. The
loss of coverage on the map comes from carriers that provide service in
the area, but are not on the PRL. On the old AC plans, your phone could
roam onto carriers not even listed in the PRL, but with the new AC plan
without roaming, only carriers in the PRL can be used. As to which plan
is best for you, depends on where exactly you travel, and what carriers
are available in those areas.

Rich

Janie Collins wrote:
> Thanks, Rich. This may be a dumb question, but will the 50261 receive
> everything plus that the 50271 will? I obviously don't understand all
> (okay, any of this. I'm not concerned with roaming charges, just want my
> phone to work in the most places possible (without going to NSR). I realize
> the maps I see don't really show everything, but I see nothing about losing
> anything in VA/WVA, but yet when I compare the "old AC" map to the "no roam
> AC" map, there is a definite loss of coverage which I, possibly in error,
> don't see on your list.
>

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Thanks! Honestly, the only area that really matters (I'm not concerned
about cities) is I77 from NC to WV. So, should I stick with old AC? (I
don't know what a SID is !

J

"Rich" <mathwhiz@mathwhiz.org> wrote in message
news:wa-dnQ8jqPfozobfRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> 50261 and 50271 are mostly the same except for the differences I listed.
> So 50261 will not pick up all the SIDs that 50271 has, and vice versa. The
> question of having your phone work in most places possible depends on
> where you plan on using it. For most of the country AC2 is the better
> plan (IMO) except for the West Coast (WA/OR) area, where there was a lot
> of roaming area before, that is now not available on AC2. The loss of
> coverage on the map comes from carriers that provide service in the area,
> but are not on the PRL. On the old AC plans, your phone could roam onto
> carriers not even listed in the PRL, but with the new AC plan without
> roaming, only carriers in the PRL can be used. As to which plan is best
> for you, depends on where exactly you travel, and what carriers are
> available in those areas.
>
> Rich
>
> Janie Collins wrote:
>> Thanks, Rich. This may be a dumb question, but will the 50261 receive
>> everything plus that the 50271 will? I obviously don't understand all
>> (okay, any of this. I'm not concerned with roaming charges, just want
>> my phone to work in the most places possible (without going to NSR). I
>> realize the maps I see don't really show everything, but I see nothing
>> about losing anything in VA/WVA, but yet when I compare the "old AC" map
>> to the "no roam AC" map, there is a definite loss of coverage which I,
>> possibly in error, don't see on your list.
>>

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Yep... makes perfect sense. We travel through those mountains often and I
don't want to lose the ability to make emergency calls (like to AAA) should
we need assistance. It's worth 69 cents a min and whatever per day roaming
fee they charge to make those calls.

To me, the perfect no roam plan is no inbound call delivery but outbound
works normally. That solves my worry of answering a call without noticing
it's roaming and if I make a call without noticing I'm roaming, it's my own
dumb fault. That's actually how it seems to work for us in most of So. WVA,
but it could be because service is spotty and the Kyocera's seemed to turn
themselves off after a few minutes of searching for a signal.


"Janie Collins" <jjcollins@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:e%HSd.24784$Go4.1702516@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> Hey Cricket,
>
> I looked at (what I think are) the AC1 and AC2 maps and the roaming in
> this area was gone (obviously) on the AC2 map. I do know that the last
> time I went to WV (Christmas) I did indeed roam in the mountains of that
> VA/WV border, and I guess I'm just wanting to make sure that by keeping my
> AC1, I will have all the coverage of AC2 PLUS any available roaming
> capabilities. I don't want to lose anything by staying with AC1. Make
> sense?
>
> Janie
>
> "cricket" <cricket23@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:5NHSd.3787$Ba3.950@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> that wouldn't be loss of analog areas would it? (The map I looked at on
>> the website looked identical to the old map.)
>>
>> "Janie Collins" <jjcollins@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:B0zSd.19096$Go4.1476888@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>>> Thanks, Rich. This may be a dumb question, but will the 50261 receive
>>> everything plus that the 50271 will? I obviously don't understand all
>>> (okay, any of this. I'm not concerned with roaming charges, just
>>> want my phone to work in the most places possible (without going to
>>> NSR). I realize the maps I see don't really show everything, but I see
>>> nothing about losing anything in VA/WVA, but yet when I compare the "old
>>> AC" map to the "no roam AC" map, there is a definite loss of coverage
>>> which I, possibly in error, don't see on your list.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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That's true, but AC2 is no bargain for the rural regions of New
York State either. In almost every zip code I look in upstate New
York AC2 deletes significant areas of roaming coverage, replacing
it with no service.

Rich <mathwhiz@mathwhiz.org> wrote in
news:wa-dnQ8jqPfozobfRVn-gQ@comcast.com:

> 50261 and 50271 are mostly the same except for the differences I
> listed.
> So 50261 will not pick up all the SIDs that 50271 has, and vice
> versa. The question of having your phone work in most places
> possible depends
> on where you plan on using it. For most of the country AC2 is
the
> better plan (IMO) except for the West Coast (WA/OR) area, where
there
> was a lot of roaming area before, that is now not available on
AC2.
> The loss of coverage on the map comes from carriers that provide
> service in the area, but are not on the PRL. On the old AC
plans,
> your phone could roam onto carriers not even listed in the PRL,
but
> with the new AC plan without roaming, only carriers in the PRL
can be
> used. As to which plan is best for you, depends on where exactly
you
> travel, and what carriers are available in those areas.
>
> Rich
>
> Janie Collins wrote:
>> Thanks, Rich. This may be a dumb question, but will the 50261
>> receive everything plus that the 50271 will? I obviously don't
>> understand all (okay, any of this. I'm not concerned with
roaming
>> charges, just want my phone to work in the most places possible
>> (without going to NSR). I realize the maps I see don't really
show
>> everything, but I see nothing about losing anything in VA/WVA,
but
>> yet when I compare the "old AC" map to the "no roam AC" map,
there is
>> a definite loss of coverage which I, possibly in error, don't
see on
>> your list.
>>