Thanks I think I will go with the 670. As far as the new Microsoft Flight I do not care for it. It seems more of an arcade type game than a real sim. I don't know how far you went with FSX but my uncle who servrd in the USAF has been training me and I learned how to use and fly with instruments, map out flight plans using real VOR ILS landings on runways on several aircraft and now learning the PMDG 737 and Flight just not have these options YET. Hopefully in the future. I do play other games such as COD, Battlefield, Crysis etc so the 670 won't hurt. Thanks again for your advice. Feel free to add anything else you have that may be helpful