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Grub   04-17-2003 at 04:14:44 PM

I just bought one of those new-fangled mini ITX boards from Via. I'm planning on putting it in a prototype that I'm building for my company. I like that it had a TV out integrated on it. I'm going to use it for data logging and running some little movies that the Execs can oooh and ahhh over. They like color movies on their devices.

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bum_jcrules   04-17-2003 at 05:50:02 PM
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My friend Jon and I want to put one in a lunchbox. The ultimate LAN machine. The video isn't that great but just the sight of a system in a lunchbox is awesome.

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svol   04-17-2003 at 05:56:37 PM
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Please tell us how the preformance are... I wonder how good the modern C3 CPUs are.

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dims when I turn it on :eek:

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Spitfire_x86   04-17-2003 at 06:05:30 PM
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Take cover soon. This news might make Crashman angry

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Grub   04-17-2003 at 06:07:23 PM
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Yeah...Since Tom's was afraid to, I'm going to run 3Dmark on it...muahahahahahh!!!

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svol   04-17-2003 at 06:22:32 PM
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LOL... I wonder if it gets above the 1000 3DMarks.

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dims when I turn it on :eek:

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Auburn9698   04-17-2003 at 06:23:32 PM
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You should use a Hot Wheels lunchbox. That way, people will at least think it LOOKS fast....

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Yahiko81   04-17-2003 at 06:24:10 PM
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A smurfs lunchbox would be the bomb.

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ksoth   04-17-2003 at 06:24:44 PM
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There's that Biostar MiniATX nForce2 board with integrated audio, GeForce4 MX, firewire, USB 2.0, and just about everything. That thing has decent graphics and is only 9.5"x9.5", so it might fit in a slightly larger lunchbox... That's prolly my choice for a little project I'm gonna be doing...

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Grub   04-17-2003 at 06:37:26 PM
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I've got some vintage lunchboxes That might add to the "mysique". I've got an original "Black Hole" lunchbox from the disney movie. I used to have an Atari lunch box, but its gone now...that would have been sweet...Hmmm...Maybe crazypaint could redeem themselves.....(evil thoughts)...hmmm...

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Yahiko81   04-17-2003 at 06:40:50 PM
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I'll paint em for ya :>

will finger paints work?

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bum_jcrules   04-17-2003 at 07:55:14 PM
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What shape is that "The Black Hole" lunchbox in? If it is large enough, that would be awesome. I saw one that used a Batman lunchbox.




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RobD   04-17-2003 at 08:49:57 PM
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He still takes the "Black Hole" lunchbox to work with him. It's true, I have proof!

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bum_jcrules   04-17-2003 at 09:40:36 PM
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Okay... show us your proof.





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eden   04-18-2003 at 05:12:28 AM
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Enjoy yourself as you gaze at the powerhouse that the ITX Eden platforms are: <A HREF="http://www.tomshardware.com/mainboard/20030326/index.html" target="_new">http://www.tomshardware.com/mainboard/20030326/index.html</A>

Never has Quake III felt so smooth.

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dhlucke   04-18-2003 at 05:27:47 AM
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Not sure what video that thing has, but I used to think these micro computers were cool until I tried using it for games and movies. 8MB onboard crap. It couldn't even play a divx movie let alone a game. It had a AGP slot but you'd need a 1" high card to fit it in there.

Complete crap. And they sell them for $1200 bucks.

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Grub   04-18-2003 at 02:44:43 PM
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I bought mine for $130.00? The onboard video is called castlerock. I didn't know that Steven King was into GPUs. I heard that the next generation graphics from Via will be called the Fraggle Rock.

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Yahiko81   04-18-2003 at 03:06:20 PM
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Down in fraggle rock...

Je bend de mest onverschillige hasj dealende hoer die ik ooit heb ontmoet.

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bum_jcrules   04-18-2003 at 03:26:44 PM
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Doozers!



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Groveling_Wyrm   04-18-2003 at 04:09:18 PM
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OMG! And we just lost half the crowd because they have no clue what or who Fraggles are! LOL!

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Grub   04-18-2003 at 04:19:24 PM
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I forgot all about the doozers! That was the sickest symbiotic relationship ever....

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svol   04-18-2003 at 07:17:13 PM
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LOL... that are some pretty bad benchmarks for Q3.

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dims when I turn it on :eek:

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jihiggs   04-18-2003 at 07:26:50 PM
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personaly i would go with the a team lunch box.

my computer is so fast, it completes an endless loop in less than 4 seconds!

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bum_jcrules   04-18-2003 at 08:38:54 PM
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I think my parents still have my "The Fox and the Hound" lunchbox. I'll have to check out their hall closet to see if they still do.





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Yahiko81   04-18-2003 at 08:42:37 PM
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You can't mod that box. It's a classic.

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Grub   04-18-2003 at 10:29:17 PM
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Tom's need to come out with a lunch box....

Any man can withstand adversity...The true test of character is to give a man power <i>Abraham Lincoln</i>

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Auburn9698   04-19-2003 at 12:27:45 AM
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*retch*


War Eagle

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Grub   04-21-2003 at 08:04:32 PM
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It just arrived...wow...I know the performance isn't the same as a normal desktop, but I've got to admire the engineering behind the form factor. If you think about it, this board has more features than any other mobo out there....and its the smallest. It has USB 2.0, 6 channel Audio, video with hardware MPEG decoder, LAN, Processor, Svideo/composite out, and Fire wire.

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bum_jcrules   04-21-2003 at 09:29:43 PM
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Do some benches on that C3 so we can see how it does.

Doing gaming benches probably will not say much because that video card isn't that good. The synthetics will most likely be the only choice.






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Grub   04-21-2003 at 10:06:50 PM
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Muahahah....I'm going to run 3dMark2001se on it tonight...I'll post Benchies in about 16 hours....

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eden   04-22-2003 at 04:23:28 AM
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The problem is all of these high-tech feature suffer on the C3. They are simply NOT being fed right by the horsepower. It is worse than a Celeron stripped of cache and FPU, it can't even play movies right. (see video benchmarks)

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Grub   04-22-2003 at 02:33:35 PM
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Well Here are the benchmarks. I had to go through quite a bit to get them to run, but it worked after I got the updated drivers and directX on it. One thing I can say is that the ITX never crashed, froze or otherwise. One thing I didn't like is that it will not allow you to overclock in the bios. It will, however, let you adjust the memory voltage. Also, the CPU gets HOT!!! At idle it was a constant 55 degrees C.
Setup:
CPU: VIA C3 600mhz
Memory: 256 MB Kingston Hyperx PC 3000 DDR. Set at most aggressive timings.
OS: Windows ME (only extra OS I have...sorry)
I also disabled every onboard peripheral I could during the tests
PC Mark scores
CPU: 568
Memory: 619
I have the individual test scores if anyone is interested
3DMark2001se
Well, the first thing I noticed is that the splash screen was not fadding in smoothly...This made me laugh as it did not bode well for the rest of the test. Here are the scores...I can still here the motherboard's screams in my ears.....MUAHAHAHAHA
Game1 Car Low detail: 5.1 fps LOL!!!
Game1 Car High detail: .7 fps
Game2 Dragothic Low: 6.2 fps Now were blazing!!!
Game2 Dragothic High: 2.1 fps
Game3 Lobby Low: 11.8 fps
Game3 Lobby High: 5.8 fps
Game4 Nature: not Supported (read:uncle!!!)
Fill rate single texture 78.9 MTexels/sec
Fill rate multi texture 104.9 MTexels/sec
This is where it gets good!!!
High Polygon cnt 1 light .9 MTriangles/sec
High polygon cnt 8 light (the text read N/A, but I sawe it run. The screen only changed 3 times throught the entire test...I though the southbridge was going to explode!!!)
Enviroment Bump map not supported
DOT3 Bump Map 8.1 fps
Vertex shader 4.5 fps
Pixel Shader not supported
Advanced pixel shader take a wild guess
point sprites .3 Msprites

THe final score probably set a record for the lowest score ever recorded....Here it is... 403 marks. I hoped you get a good laugh over this, because I was cracking up watching it run. The car chase scenes were so slow they looked like the image quality tests on my other computer. Oh well...10 minutes of screen shots was all I got for my trouble. Anybody for a game of Pong? I've got my new Via ITX...

Any man can withstand adversity...The true test of character is to give a man power <i>Abraham Lincoln</i>

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bum_jcrules   04-22-2003 at 04:09:27 PM
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I have a CD full of ROMs that you can probably play.

Pac-Man.... and Guantlet.... and Gyruss.... Oh my!
Pac-Man... and Guantlet... and Gyruss... Oh my!
Pac-Man.. and Guantlet.. and Gyruss.. Oh my!
Pac-Man. and Guantlet. and Gyruss. Oh my!



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