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Microsoft Points Out iPad's Enterprise Weaknesses

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January 26, 2011 4:59:29 AM

Let the pissing contest begin!
January 26, 2011 5:22:00 AM

The iPad's a multimedia and entertainment device, it wasn't really designed to be used in a business environment but people do anyway.

It's fine for a lot of things businesses need, but the iPad wasn't meant to cater to "Everyones" needs because put simply no computing device can fulfil everybody's expectations.
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January 26, 2011 5:31:07 AM

Well, they are comparing apple and oranges ;-)
From an IT manager's perpective (from a large corporation), Microsoft's arguments are relevant. Security seriously sucks on Apple devices and the only reason why there are not so much problems with them is that pirates are not that interested in it.
On the other hand, Windows based tablets always failed to impress me on the functionalities and user friendliness. They are also so slow and consume so much power that we can safely say that they barely function, while iPads run smooth.
I imagine that some software suites for locking features of the iPad (other than what Apple is locking ;-) ), establishing VPN connections,... will do the job for most enterprises.
We are not in a situation where every employee should have an iPad, but there already some specialized iPad applications available for some very specific tasks (inventory of assets in large building, interviews,...) and for those tasks, they work very well.
To me, Apple only misses three things to win more of those large accounts:
- Offering them better ways to install their applications (let the enterprises put apps on the devices without this ##"!! iStore.
- Offer more rugged versions of the iPad (because the current one will never work in some environments).
- A screen that can be read outdoors.
January 26, 2011 5:58:34 AM

Translation: "We don't have a product that's even potentially in that market, yet. Therefore, we're going to attack the market leader as a stall tactic while we figure out what we'll do to compete."
January 26, 2011 6:01:49 AM

They missed the important point ; Steve Jobs is



edited by Mod to remove probably untrue slur
Anonymous
January 26, 2011 6:31:29 AM

nice job microsoft...nothing like pointing out the deficiencies of others when you yourself have nothing viable to offer.
Anonymous
January 26, 2011 6:59:08 AM

I dont really think windows mobile can compete with ipad.. well as of this moment..

http://www.discrematech.com
January 26, 2011 7:54:03 AM

Regardless of whether or not microsoft can compete, their worries are still valid.

Furthermore, as we have seen in CES'11, lets see what happens when win tablets.. or even droid tablets hit the mainstream.

Apple may have gotten the jump, but thats about all they are going to get (or the people who blindly buy apple without knowing why).
January 26, 2011 8:00:54 AM

I just can't get excited about any of the tablets. I thin it's because use a very large monitor when I work. A tablet would not not be suitable for what I do.
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January 26, 2011 10:25:39 AM

Bottom line. Apple is not in the enterprise market. Nuff said. Microsoft is.....but they are loosing their grip to other innovators like Google and Apple. For example after presentations from Google and Microsoft at a Major university, it was recommended by the committee to move away from Microsoft. I know...this because I'm part of the committee.

PS. Don't you hate when someone says, "Nuff said", and continue blabbing! LOL.
January 26, 2011 12:41:23 PM

AnonymousWell, they are comparing apple and oranges ;-)From an IT manager's perpective (from a large corporation), Microsoft's arguments are relevant. Security seriously sucks on Apple devices and the only reason why there are not so much problems with them is that pirates are not that interested in it.On the other hand, Windows based tablets always failed to impress me on the functionalities and user friendliness. They are also so slow and consume so much power that we can safely say that they barely function, while iPads run smooth.I imagine that some software suites for locking features of the iPad (other than what Apple is locking ;-) ), establishing VPN connections,... will do the job for most enterprises.We are not in a situation where every employee should have an iPad, but there already some specialized iPad applications available for some very specific tasks (inventory of assets in large building, interviews,...) and for those tasks, they work very well. To me, Apple only misses three things to win more of those large accounts:- Offering them better ways to install their applications (let the enterprises put apps on the devices without this ##"!! iStore.- Offer more rugged versions of the iPad (because the current one will never work in some environments).- A screen that can be read outdoors.


And where is the central management and security features beyond a free app?

January 26, 2011 1:18:43 PM

its like the apple ads, only backwards.
January 26, 2011 1:23:10 PM

By the way, this is not about iPad, this is iOS, which installs in more than just iPad. At the same time, since it is operating system, and not hardware, it can be amended in future, if those fortune 500 companies require that...
January 26, 2011 2:03:55 PM

geoffsTranslation: "We don't have a product that's even potentially in that market, yet. Therefore, we're going to attack the market leader as a stall tactic while we figure out what we'll do to compete."


You hit the nail on the head. Instead of attacking Apple every time they fall beyond, MS would be well served to bring in some fresh creative talent and push for more innovation. They have the means, they obviously have the desire, but do they have the brains to do it? Seems like MS is always trying to play catch-up, they need to get out there and do some real creative thinking and innovate.
January 26, 2011 2:29:52 PM

At least this slide might affect IT managers who have gone googly-eyed about the iPad. It is an entertainment device, not meant for business or government.
January 26, 2011 2:44:11 PM

Technical personnel in your Enterprise = iPad is a joke and serves no purpose, based on technical knowledge and understanding of the infrastructure and device limitations.

Managers/secretaries/less-knowledgeable users = iPad is pretty, plays games and apps, and is OK to use due to these misunderstandings.
January 26, 2011 2:59:24 PM

Stupid question...can you put Apps/Tools that were built in-house onto iPad iOS?

Also, is there any way that you can view SharePoint sites in their full form on iOS? If you try SharePoint 2010 sites for example, they will only be viewed in "mobile" view unless you go through a deep process to disable mobile sites.

Not trying to defend MSFT at all here, I just know that most businesses love SharePoint sites for a number of reasons, and require custom tools/apps on their blackberries, laptops and desktops also for good reasons. If Apple claims 80% of S&P 500 are piloting iPads, they must all be drastically changing their infrastructure to support it.
January 26, 2011 3:47:47 PM

It's a toy, never will be anything more.
January 26, 2011 4:25:02 PM

Microsoft is already pursing this strategy to some extent, but I'd like to see them play more role in the business side of things, even more than now.
January 26, 2011 4:36:06 PM

zubikovStupid question...can you put Apps/Tools that were built in-house onto iPad iOS?Also, is there any way that you can view SharePoint sites in their full form on iOS? If you try SharePoint 2010 sites for example, they will only be viewed in "mobile" view unless you go through a deep process to disable mobile sites.Not trying to defend MSFT at all here, I just know that most businesses love SharePoint sites for a number of reasons, and require custom tools/apps on their blackberries, laptops and desktops also for good reasons. If Apple claims 80% of S&P 500 are piloting iPads, they must all be drastically changing their infrastructure to support it.

Excellent point - SharePoint is estimated at 130Million license base and counting. My company is in the starting phases of trialing Slate/Ipad devices and SharePoint support is a huge issue I need solved if we make any decision.
January 26, 2011 7:04:02 PM

Microsoft: "The iPad sucks for enterprise - our technologically superior devices are ideal for the business environment."

Apple: "Yeah, we could do that whole PS3-appeal-to-the-limited-market, but we'd rather follow the Wii and tap into the larger ID10T market."
January 26, 2011 7:34:29 PM

the problem is, you have stupid people using it for purposes its not meant to in businesses. Apple people dont understand when you say "its just a toy, not a real computer". Talk to anyone in IT who will tell you supporting these things and iphones in a business is a nightmare.
January 26, 2011 8:27:39 PM

samdonnice job microsoft...nothing like pointing out the deficiencies of others when you yourself have nothing viable to offer.

And apple and google do the exact same thing, it's called marketing.

iam2thecrowethe problem is, you have stupid people using it for purposes its not meant to in businesses. Apple people dont understand when you say "its just a toy, not a real computer". Talk to anyone in IT who will tell you supporting these things and iphones in a business is a nightmare.

Our IT dept explicitly went out of their way to block the iphone email app due to how often it pings the servers and security concerns (they can still use OWA through the browser though).

That said, MS has a point here, making ipads ISO17025 and TS16949 compliant would be a nightmare as would making it UL audit-able.
January 26, 2011 8:56:54 PM

I work for a Fortune 3 corporation. The CEO asked the CIO why we were not using iPads and iPhones. The computer department has a project to study the issue this year.
January 26, 2011 9:36:31 PM

czar1020It's a toy, never will be anything more.

I agree
Alot of the points Microsoft made are true, and this is all part of competetion. I can't see the iPad being used in large scale businesses with the current state of its OS.
January 27, 2011 6:51:32 PM

Anything Apple is crap it's sh!t it's what noobs buy thinking they are hardcore. look at the Iphone and Ipod they use advertisement to get sales nothing more the products alone do suck. Good example the reviews for MP3/MP4 Players the ipod was voted most bought MP3/MP4 but also most unreliable one on the entire market.and iphone It was also voted like that and even now there MP3/Mp4 players still suck till this day i don't like Apple i never will due fact they are a joke and pray on the weak they will always suck no matter how many sales they get it's just a shame people fall for apple products
January 29, 2011 6:11:51 AM

The iPad is also not good device to build a banks computer system around. Mainframes are better suited for that.
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