Presario 5BW130 HDD Install Problem

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After tossing the old hard drive, I can't get this new Maxtor to take WINXP.
I just want to load XP and start from scratch. Everything loads fine for
copying, but on the first reboot before installing Windows, this Compaq
can't seem to boot through. Is it missing bios info on a non-dos partition
or something? I've only tried to boot to CD and am using WINXP
partitioning/formatting. I can't find any Compaq bootable disk files which
will setup this HDD for an OS. Am I missing something glaringly obvious.
Thank you in advance for any help.

5BW130 5000 Series
Compaq PC
Celeron
667/66 MHz
256 MB
sys rom date: 11.17.00
sysrom family: 686c3
chassis serial #:xxxxxxxxxxxx
 

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No, that model does not store BIOS info on a HD partition. It is in ROM. If
the original IDE cable is being used is the HD properly jumpered for Cable
Select?
HH

"Matthew S Gillette" <mgillette@echoes.net> wrote in message
news:cppk0l02oia@enews1.newsguy.com...
> After tossing the old hard drive, I can't get this new Maxtor to take
> WINXP. I just want to load XP and start from scratch. Everything loads
> fine for copying, but on the first reboot before installing Windows, this
> Compaq can't seem to boot through. Is it missing bios info on a non-dos
> partition or something? I've only tried to boot to CD and am using WINXP
> partitioning/formatting. I can't find any Compaq bootable disk files which
> will setup this HDD for an OS. Am I missing something glaringly obvious.
> Thank you in advance for any help.
>
> 5BW130 5000 Series
> Compaq PC
> Celeron
> 667/66 MHz
> 256 MB
> sys rom date: 11.17.00
> sysrom family: 686c3
> chassis serial #:xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
 
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Yes, the HDD is jumpered for CS. Actually tried it both ways (Master as
well).
WINXP cd boots, copies files, reboots, and comes right back to step #1 of
the install... copying files. Though it does see that I already have a
Windows directory and makes me delete it before it copies files for
installation *again* and reboots again, and so on and so forth in an endless
loop. Is it possible the MOBO was actually the original problem and not the
HDD? I have reduced the memory from the original 2 sticks of 256Mb ea. to 1
stick and have tried using either so memory should be eliminated as any
problem. Thoughts?
"HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bvfwd.100$iy.28@fe25.usenetserver.com...
> No, that model does not store BIOS info on a HD partition. It is in ROM.
> If the original IDE cable is being used is the HD properly jumpered for
> Cable Select?
> HH
>
> "Matthew S Gillette" <mgillette@echoes.net> wrote in message
> news:cppk0l02oia@enews1.newsguy.com...
>> After tossing the old hard drive, I can't get this new Maxtor to take
>> WINXP. I just want to load XP and start from scratch. Everything loads
>> fine for copying, but on the first reboot before installing Windows, this
>> Compaq can't seem to boot through. Is it missing bios info on a non-dos
>> partition or something? I've only tried to boot to CD and am using WINXP
>> partitioning/formatting. I can't find any Compaq bootable disk files
>> which will setup this HDD for an OS. Am I missing something glaringly
>> obvious.
>> Thank you in advance for any help.
>>
>> 5BW130 5000 Series
>> Compaq PC
>> Celeron
>> 667/66 MHz
>> 256 MB
>> sys rom date: 11.17.00
>> sysrom family: 686c3
>> chassis serial #:xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>
>
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First, I'd suggest going to:

http://www.bootdisk.com

Download a bootdisk for, say, Win 98SE. Make the boot floppy and use it to
FDISK the drive, then format with the /s switch to make the drive bootable.
Then try the XP install again.
HH

"Matthew S Gillette" <mgillette@echoes.net> wrote in message
news:cps5ug0joj@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Yes, the HDD is jumpered for CS. Actually tried it both ways (Master as
> well).
> WINXP cd boots, copies files, reboots, and comes right back to step #1 of
> the install... copying files. Though it does see that I already have a
> Windows directory and makes me delete it before it copies files for
> installation *again* and reboots again, and so on and so forth in an
> endless loop. Is it possible the MOBO was actually the original problem
> and not the HDD? I have reduced the memory from the original 2 sticks of
> 256Mb ea. to 1 stick and have tried using either so memory should be
> eliminated as any problem. Thoughts?
> "HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bvfwd.100$iy.28@fe25.usenetserver.com...
>> No, that model does not store BIOS info on a HD partition. It is in ROM.
>> If the original IDE cable is being used is the HD properly jumpered for
>> Cable Select?
>> HH
>>
>> "Matthew S Gillette" <mgillette@echoes.net> wrote in message
>> news:cppk0l02oia@enews1.newsguy.com...
>>> After tossing the old hard drive, I can't get this new Maxtor to take
>>> WINXP. I just want to load XP and start from scratch. Everything loads
>>> fine for copying, but on the first reboot before installing Windows,
>>> this Compaq can't seem to boot through. Is it missing bios info on a
>>> non-dos partition or something? I've only tried to boot to CD and am
>>> using WINXP partitioning/formatting. I can't find any Compaq bootable
>>> disk files which will setup this HDD for an OS. Am I missing something
>>> glaringly obvious.
>>> Thank you in advance for any help.
>>>
>>> 5BW130 5000 Series
>>> Compaq PC
>>> Celeron
>>> 667/66 MHz
>>> 256 MB
>>> sys rom date: 11.17.00
>>> sysrom family: 686c3
>>> chassis serial #:xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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delete the c parttion with the boot disk, then install xp....that machine is
a lil slow for xp anyway...

"Matthew S Gillette" <mgillette@echoes.net> wrote in message
news:cps5ug0joj@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Yes, the HDD is jumpered for CS. Actually tried it both ways (Master as
> well).
> WINXP cd boots, copies files, reboots, and comes right back to step #1 of
> the install... copying files. Though it does see that I already have a
> Windows directory and makes me delete it before it copies files for
> installation *again* and reboots again, and so on and so forth in an
endless
> loop. Is it possible the MOBO was actually the original problem and not
the
> HDD? I have reduced the memory from the original 2 sticks of 256Mb ea. to
1
> stick and have tried using either so memory should be eliminated as any
> problem. Thoughts?
> "HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bvfwd.100$iy.28@fe25.usenetserver.com...
> > No, that model does not store BIOS info on a HD partition. It is in ROM.
> > If the original IDE cable is being used is the HD properly jumpered for
> > Cable Select?
> > HH
> >
> > "Matthew S Gillette" <mgillette@echoes.net> wrote in message
> > news:cppk0l02oia@enews1.newsguy.com...
> >> After tossing the old hard drive, I can't get this new Maxtor to take
> >> WINXP. I just want to load XP and start from scratch. Everything loads
> >> fine for copying, but on the first reboot before installing Windows,
this
> >> Compaq can't seem to boot through. Is it missing bios info on a non-dos
> >> partition or something? I've only tried to boot to CD and am using
WINXP
> >> partitioning/formatting. I can't find any Compaq bootable disk files
> >> which will setup this HDD for an OS. Am I missing something glaringly
> >> obvious.
> >> Thank you in advance for any help.
> >>
> >> 5BW130 5000 Series
> >> Compaq PC
> >> Celeron
> >> 667/66 MHz
> >> 256 MB
> >> sys rom date: 11.17.00
> >> sysrom family: 686c3
> >> chassis serial #:xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
 
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Ahh, if it were only that simple. Of course, we started with a virgin
drive, this would only bring us back where we've been several times. We've
actually tried several methods for partitioning and formatting. We even used
a boot floppy even though we wanted to avoid a FAT32 file system. Formatting
has never been the problem. As I said, it takes the initial boot to CD and
copies files, but on the first reboot it refuses to continue the load. We
had followed normal SOP for installing a new drive and not being Compaq
people, we were looking for the Compaq "magic bullet" when SOP failed.
Apparently there isn't one. If what I gather from the responses to this post
are correct, there must be a hardware problem somewhere, though I haven't
given up entirely on Compaq's proprietory ways for being at least partially
to blame.
As for being a lil slow for XP, I would disagree. Though the minimum
requirements of 233MHz and 64 MB RAM would prove to be just that, minimum,
and minimum recommended of 300MHz and 128 MB RAM little more, 667 MHz w/ 256
MB RAM is more then sufficient for the OS Windows XP. Now, what kind of
software they can run on this system once XP is loaded may be governed by
the Celeron's performance limits, but for the most part there shouldn't be a
problem. Either way, XP's stability makes it well worth any performance hit
it may impose. Thanks for the input though, all things to consider.

"doS" <kobo65@hotterthanmail.com> wrote in message
news:0rswd.13621$a5.3438@fe06.lga...
> delete the c parttion with the boot disk, then install xp....that machine
> is
> a lil slow for xp anyway...
>
> "Matthew S Gillette" <mgillette@echoes.net> wrote in message
> news:cps5ug0joj@enews4.newsguy.com...
>> Yes, the HDD is jumpered for CS. Actually tried it both ways (Master as
>> well).
>> WINXP cd boots, copies files, reboots, and comes right back to step #1 of
>> the install... copying files. Though it does see that I already have a
>> Windows directory and makes me delete it before it copies files for
>> installation *again* and reboots again, and so on and so forth in an
> endless
>> loop. Is it possible the MOBO was actually the original problem and not
> the
>> HDD? I have reduced the memory from the original 2 sticks of 256Mb ea. to
> 1
>> stick and have tried using either so memory should be eliminated as any
>> problem. Thoughts?
>> "HH" <hahunt42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:bvfwd.100$iy.28@fe25.usenetserver.com...
>> > No, that model does not store BIOS info on a HD partition. It is in
>> > ROM.
>> > If the original IDE cable is being used is the HD properly jumpered for
>> > Cable Select?
>> > HH
>> >
>> > "Matthew S Gillette" <mgillette@echoes.net> wrote in message
>> > news:cppk0l02oia@enews1.newsguy.com...
>> >> After tossing the old hard drive, I can't get this new Maxtor to take
>> >> WINXP. I just want to load XP and start from scratch. Everything loads
>> >> fine for copying, but on the first reboot before installing Windows,
> this
>> >> Compaq can't seem to boot through. Is it missing bios info on a
>> >> non-dos
>> >> partition or something? I've only tried to boot to CD and am using
> WINXP
>> >> partitioning/formatting. I can't find any Compaq bootable disk files
>> >> which will setup this HDD for an OS. Am I missing something glaringly
>> >> obvious.
>> >> Thank you in advance for any help.
>> >>
>> >> 5BW130 5000 Series
>> >> Compaq PC
>> >> Celeron
>> >> 667/66 MHz
>> >> 256 MB
>> >> sys rom date: 11.17.00
>> >> sysrom family: 686c3
>> >> chassis serial #:xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
 
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Man, I am having the exact same problem. I started with the original
HDD, Fireball 15gb, with a different OS (2003 server), and it's doing
the stupid "no boot sector" thing. The error: NTLDR: Cannot read from
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition. I thought I might have a corrupt HDD,
so I replaced the original HDD with a Maxtor 80gb, and am having the
same problem again, so I know it's not a corrupt disk. If I'm not
mistaken, this file is the boot sector for the drive that the cmos
accesses on system powerup. I know that the files are on the drive,
but is the system looking in the wrong place? Did you ever solve the
problem? I'd love to get this computer working, it'd be a lot better
for work than my 233mHz k6.... The only thing better about the K6 is
that -IT- actually works.

Please reply either by e-mail or through this board to let me know if
you ever found a solution.

=-_+_-=

Matthew S Gillette Wrote:
> Ahh, if it were only that simple. Of course, we started with a virgin
> drive, this would only bring us back where we've been several times.
> We've
> actually tried several methods for partitioning and formatting. We even
> used
> a boot floppy even though we wanted to avoid a FAT32 file system.
> Formatting
> has never been the problem. As I said, it takes the initial boot to CD
> and
> copies files, but on the first reboot it refuses to continue the load.
> We
> had followed normal SOP for installing a new drive and not being
> Compaq
> people, we were looking for the Compaq "magic bullet" when SOP failed.
> Apparently there isn't one. If what I gather from the responses to this
> post
> are correct, there must be a hardware problem somewhere, though I
> haven't
> given up entirely on Compaq's proprietory ways for being at least
> partially
> to blame.
> As for being a lil slow for XP, I would disagree. Though the minimum
> requirements of 233MHz and 64 MB RAM would prove to be just that,
> minimum,
> and minimum recommended of 300MHz and 128 MB RAM little more, 667 MHz
> w/ 256
> MB RAM is more then sufficient for the OS Windows XP. Now, what kind
> of
> software they can run on this system once XP is loaded may be governed
> by
> the Celeron's performance limits, but for the most part there shouldn't
> be a
> problem. Either way, XP's stability makes it well worth any performance
> hit
> it may impose. Thanks for the input though, all things to consider.
>
> "doS" kobo65@hotterthanmail.com wrote in message
> news:0rswd.13621$a5.3438@fe06.lga...-
> delete the c parttion with the boot disk, then install xp....that
> machine
> is
> a lil slow for xp anyway...
>
> "Matthew S Gillette" mgillette@echoes.net wrote in message
> news:cps5ug0joj@enews4.newsguy.com...-
> Yes, the HDD is jumpered for CS. Actually tried it both ways (Master
> as
> well).
> WINXP cd boots, copies files, reboots, and comes right back to step #1
> of
> the install... copying files. Though it does see that I already have
> a
> Windows directory and makes me delete it before it copies files for
> installation *again* and reboots again, and so on and so forth in an-
> endless-
> loop. Is it possible the MOBO was actually the original problem and
> not-
> the-
> HDD? I have reduced the memory from the original 2 sticks of 256Mb ea.
> to-
> 1-
> stick and have tried using either so memory should be eliminated as
> any
> problem. Thoughts?
> "HH" hahunt42@hotmail.com wrote in message
> news:bvfwd.100$iy.28@fe25.usenetserver.com...-
> No, that model does not store BIOS info on a HD partition. It is in
> ROM.
> If the original IDE cable is being used is the HD properly jumpered
> for
> Cable Select?
> HH
>
> "Matthew S Gillette" mgillette@echoes.net wrote in message
> news:cppk0l02oia@enews1.newsguy.com...
> After tossing the old hard drive, I can't get this new Maxtor to
> take
> WINXP. I just want to load XP and start from scratch. Everything
> loads
> fine for copying, but on the first reboot before installing
> Windows,--
> this--
> Compaq can't seem to boot through. Is it missing bios info on a
> non-dos
> partition or something? I've only tried to boot to CD and am using--
> WINXP--
> partitioning/formatting. I can't find any Compaq bootable disk files
> which will setup this HDD for an OS. Am I missing something
> glaringly
> obvious.
> Thank you in advance for any help.
>
> 5BW130 5000 Series
> Compaq PC
> Celeron
> 667/66 MHz
> 256 MB
> sys rom date: 11.17.00
> sysrom family: 686c3
> chassis serial #:xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> -
>
> -
>
> -


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Did you check the last item in the Coimpaq FAQ?

HH


"crazycoyote" <crazycoyote.1ms1vo@news.computerbanter.com> wrote in message
news:crazycoyote.1ms1vo@news.computerbanter.com...
>
> Man, I am having the exact same problem. I started with the original
> HDD, Fireball 15gb, with a different OS (2003 server), and it's doing
> the stupid "no boot sector" thing. The error: NTLDR: Cannot read from
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition. I thought I might have a corrupt HDD,
> so I replaced the original HDD with a Maxtor 80gb, and am having the
> same problem again, so I know it's not a corrupt disk. If I'm not
> mistaken, this file is the boot sector for the drive that the cmos
> accesses on system powerup. I know that the files are on the drive,
> but is the system looking in the wrong place? Did you ever solve the
> problem? I'd love to get this computer working, it'd be a lot better
> for work than my 233mHz k6.... The only thing better about the K6 is
> that -IT- actually works.
>
> Please reply either by e-mail or through this board to let me know if
> you ever found a solution.
>
> =-_+_-=
>
> Matthew S Gillette Wrote:
>> Ahh, if it were only that simple. Of course, we started with a virgin
>> drive, this would only bring us back where we've been several times.
>> We've
>> actually tried several methods for partitioning and formatting. We even
>> used
>> a boot floppy even though we wanted to avoid a FAT32 file system.
>> Formatting
>> has never been the problem. As I said, it takes the initial boot to CD
>> and
>> copies files, but on the first reboot it refuses to continue the load.
>> We
>> had followed normal SOP for installing a new drive and not being
>> Compaq
>> people, we were looking for the Compaq "magic bullet" when SOP failed.
>> Apparently there isn't one. If what I gather from the responses to this
>> post
>> are correct, there must be a hardware problem somewhere, though I
>> haven't
>> given up entirely on Compaq's proprietory ways for being at least
>> partially
>> to blame.
>> As for being a lil slow for XP, I would disagree. Though the minimum
>> requirements of 233MHz and 64 MB RAM would prove to be just that,
>> minimum,
>> and minimum recommended of 300MHz and 128 MB RAM little more, 667 MHz
>> w/ 256
>> MB RAM is more then sufficient for the OS Windows XP. Now, what kind
>> of
>> software they can run on this system once XP is loaded may be governed
>> by
>> the Celeron's performance limits, but for the most part there shouldn't
>> be a
>> problem. Either way, XP's stability makes it well worth any performance
>> hit
>> it may impose. Thanks for the input though, all things to consider.
>>
>> "doS" kobo65@hotterthanmail.com wrote in message
>> news:0rswd.13621$a5.3438@fe06.lga...-
>> delete the c parttion with the boot disk, then install xp....that
>> machine
>> is
>> a lil slow for xp anyway...
>>
>> "Matthew S Gillette" mgillette@echoes.net wrote in message
>> news:cps5ug0joj@enews4.newsguy.com...-
>> Yes, the HDD is jumpered for CS. Actually tried it both ways (Master
>> as
>> well).
>> WINXP cd boots, copies files, reboots, and comes right back to step #1
>> of
>> the install... copying files. Though it does see that I already have
>> a
>> Windows directory and makes me delete it before it copies files for
>> installation *again* and reboots again, and so on and so forth in an-
>> endless-
>> loop. Is it possible the MOBO was actually the original problem and
>> not-
>> the-
>> HDD? I have reduced the memory from the original 2 sticks of 256Mb ea.
>> to-
>> 1-
>> stick and have tried using either so memory should be eliminated as
>> any
>> problem. Thoughts?
>> "HH" hahunt42@hotmail.com wrote in message
>> news:bvfwd.100$iy.28@fe25.usenetserver.com...-
>> No, that model does not store BIOS info on a HD partition. It is in
>> ROM.
>> If the original IDE cable is being used is the HD properly jumpered
>> for
>> Cable Select?
>> HH
>>
>> "Matthew S Gillette" mgillette@echoes.net wrote in message
>> news:cppk0l02oia@enews1.newsguy.com...
>> After tossing the old hard drive, I can't get this new Maxtor to
>> take
>> WINXP. I just want to load XP and start from scratch. Everything
>> loads
>> fine for copying, but on the first reboot before installing
>> Windows,--
>> this--
>> Compaq can't seem to boot through. Is it missing bios info on a
>> non-dos
>> partition or something? I've only tried to boot to CD and am using--
>> WINXP--
>> partitioning/formatting. I can't find any Compaq bootable disk files
>> which will setup this HDD for an OS. Am I missing something
>> glaringly
>> obvious.
>> Thank you in advance for any help.
>>
>> 5BW130 5000 Series
>> Compaq PC
>> Celeron
>> 667/66 MHz
>> 256 MB
>> sys rom date: 11.17.00
>> sysrom family: 686c3
>> chassis serial #:xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>> -
>>
>> -
>
>
> --
> crazycoyote
 

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man i have i hate this machine , but im having this exact problem , i have tried different processors , ram , and 6 different hard drives

has anyone fix this issue ?

i cant seem to get anything to load, but windows 2k

i pulled a a hard drive out of another machine compaq ,and it will boot the win xp on it but i cant do anyhting other than that ...

did anyone fix this problem ?? cause i need this out of my dam out of my office
what does it take to get xp to run on this machine ?
 

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Don't use cable select jumper settings, outdated. Harddisk as a master jumpered device ALWAYS on the end of the IDE cable, and a second drive on the same cable/controller mastered as slave. Same for the second ide-port.

You could try to do a windows install again over the XP-drive you took from the other compaq, during the install you will get the option to repair the windows installation, that is, if the former installation is found by the setup routine.