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April 18, 2005 12:46:43 AM

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Like many gamers, I've been reluctant to replace my trusty CRT with an LCD.
While I used to play many games, nowadays I play mostly EQ2, so my concern
is how EQ2 will perform with any new hardware I use. Given the demands of
the EQ2 graphics, I'm sticking with my 21" Trinitron. However, I also do a
good bit of digital photography and editing, so last week I purchased a
Samsung 913v 19" LCD ($375) from Sam's for a machine I built for use with
Photoshop and Premiere. The specs of the monitor are good enough for what I
do, even with the analog input. Given its 25ms response time, it never
crossed my mind that I could use it for EQ2. However, while I had it hooked
up to my gaming rig for initial setup (while I finished the other computer),
I logged on and played some EQ2. I was blown away by the performance!! I
expected massive ghosting and blur, but during a couple of hours of some
pretty serious fighting, I experienced virtually NO ghosting or blur. And
the game looks great.

Your mileage may vary. I just wanted to report a positive experience with a
25ms RT LCD. The gaming rig is:

AMD Athlon Barton core 2500+ oc'ed to 2.4ghz
Abit NF7 motherboard
1gb Kingmax PC3500 RAM
Nvidia 6800 non-ultra 128mb

Also, the software that came with the Samsung is really good. I provides
for a tremendous amount of control over the color and gamma of the monitor.
For the price, I'm very, very satisfied. And it's nice to have the option
of gaming on it. I even ran 3DMark01 SE to see what 300fps looked like,
and, again, virtually not ghosting. It makes me wonder how monitor
manufacturers determine response time. I've seen more ghosting on monitors
rated at 16ms. It could be like other "standards." Perhaps they're not
"standard" at all, but rather up to the discretion of the maker.

jake

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Anonymous
April 18, 2005 1:46:03 AM

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:46:43 GMT, "Jake" <jake@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Your mileage may vary. I just wanted to report a positive experience with a
>25ms RT LCD.

I've been using LCD display for quite a while, have a KDS Rad-17
display for about 2 years now and haven't noticed any ghosting or any
issue. The only major issue is the contrast ratio but that's
generally an issue if multiple players shares the same monitor (ie
Monopoly board game) but for single player not a problem.

I also have another LCD display, HP Pavilion f50 that came with an HP
computer. It plays OK but the midrange color's really bad looking and
kind of washed out. ie where it should be medium cyan I see neon
blue-green and adjusting brightness/gamma has no effect. Darker color
and lighter color's fine just the mid range color that is too light.
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Anonymous
April 18, 2005 2:01:54 AM

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"Jake" <jake@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> Given its 25ms response time, it never crossed my mind that I could
> use it for EQ2. However, while I had it hooked up to my gaming rig
> for initial setup (while I finished the other computer), I logged on
> and played some EQ2. I was blown away by the performance!! I
> expected massive ghosting and blur, but during a couple of hours of
> some pretty serious fighting, I experienced virtually NO ghosting or
> blur. And the game looks great.
>
> Your mileage may vary. I just wanted to report a positive experience
> with a 25ms RT LCD. The gaming rig is:
>

Yup. The people you hear claiming they're no good for gaming either haven't
used one in that capacity for years, played on a really cheap model or are
just repeating what someone else has said.

It used to be true that the ghosting and such was prevalent, but I've
played EQ on my laptop for a couple of years now with no performance issues
at all. I would expect even better performance from a desktop LCD.

Not only is the performance acceptible, the image can quite likely be
better.

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Anonymous
April 18, 2005 4:35:38 PM

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Jake wrote:
> Like many gamers, I've been reluctant to replace my trusty CRT with an LCD.
> While I used to play many games, nowadays I play mostly EQ2, so my concern
> is how EQ2 will perform with any new hardware I use. Given the demands of
> the EQ2 graphics, I'm sticking with my 21" Trinitron. However, I also do a
> good bit of digital photography and editing, so last week I purchased a
> Samsung 913v 19" LCD ($375) from Sam's for a machine I built for use with
> Photoshop and Premiere. The specs of the monitor are good enough for what I
> do, even with the analog input. Given its 25ms response time, it never
> crossed my mind that I could use it for EQ2. However, while I had it hooked
> up to my gaming rig for initial setup (while I finished the other computer),
> I logged on and played some EQ2. I was blown away by the performance!! I
> expected massive ghosting and blur, but during a couple of hours of some
> pretty serious fighting, I experienced virtually NO ghosting or blur. And
> the game looks great.
>
> Your mileage may vary. I just wanted to report a positive experience with a
> 25ms RT LCD. The gaming rig is:
Mine ghosts.

But it ghosts on things that run upward of 100 fps.

EQ, SWG, FF, EQ2, WoW don't even faze it.
Anonymous
April 18, 2005 6:54:25 PM

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"Jake" <jake@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:TWz8e.5157$0V2.3511@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Like many gamers, I've been reluctant to replace my trusty CRT with an
> LCD.
> While I used to play many games, nowadays I play mostly EQ2, so my concern
> is how EQ2 will perform with any new hardware I use. Given the demands of
> the EQ2 graphics, I'm sticking with my 21" Trinitron. However, I also do
> a
> good bit of digital photography and editing, so last week I purchased a
> Samsung 913v 19" LCD ($375) from Sam's for a machine I built for use with
> Photoshop and Premiere. The specs of the monitor are good enough for what
> I
> do, even with the analog input. Given its 25ms response time, it never
> crossed my mind that I could use it for EQ2. However, while I had it
> hooked
> up to my gaming rig for initial setup (while I finished the other
> computer),
> I logged on and played some EQ2. I was blown away by the performance!! I
> expected massive ghosting and blur, but during a couple of hours of some
> pretty serious fighting, I experienced virtually NO ghosting or blur. And
> the game looks great.
>
> Your mileage may vary. I just wanted to report a positive experience with
> a
> 25ms RT LCD. The gaming rig is:
>
> AMD Athlon Barton core 2500+ oc'ed to 2.4ghz
> Abit NF7 motherboard
> 1gb Kingmax PC3500 RAM
> Nvidia 6800 non-ultra 128mb
>
> Also, the software that came with the Samsung is really good. I provides
> for a tremendous amount of control over the color and gamma of the
> monitor.
> For the price, I'm very, very satisfied. And it's nice to have the option
> of gaming on it. I even ran 3DMark01 SE to see what 300fps looked like,
> and, again, virtually not ghosting. It makes me wonder how monitor
> manufacturers determine response time. I've seen more ghosting on
> monitors
> rated at 16ms. It could be like other "standards." Perhaps they're not
> "standard" at all, but rather up to the discretion of the maker.
>
> jake

i dont remember the exact specs on it, but right after xmas i got a pretty
similar LCD on clearance.
i love it.
bigger screen, just a tad bit of roughness around the edges.
i play EQ2, madden 200x, lego star wars, and star wars battlefront on it,
and have zero complaints.

lee
Anonymous
April 18, 2005 7:04:11 PM

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"Jake" <jake@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:TWz8e.5157$0V2.3511@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:

> Like many gamers, I've been reluctant to replace my trusty CRT with an
> LCD. While I used to play many games, nowadays I play mostly EQ2, so
> my concern is how EQ2 will perform with any new hardware I use. Given
> the demands of the EQ2 graphics, I'm sticking with my 21" Trinitron.
> However, I also do a good bit of digital photography and editing, so
> last week I purchased a Samsung 913v 19" LCD ($375) from Sam's for a
> machine I built for use with Photoshop and Premiere. The specs of the
> monitor are good enough for what I do, even with the analog input.
> Given its 25ms response time, it never crossed my mind that I could
> use it for EQ2. However, while I had it hooked up to my gaming rig
> for initial setup (while I finished the other computer), I logged on
> and played some EQ2. I was blown away by the performance!! I
> expected massive ghosting and blur, but during a couple of hours of
> some pretty serious fighting, I experienced virtually NO ghosting or
> blur. And the game looks great.
>
> Your mileage may vary. I just wanted to report a positive experience
> with a 25ms RT LCD. The gaming rig is:
>
> AMD Athlon Barton core 2500+ oc'ed to 2.4ghz
> Abit NF7 motherboard
> 1gb Kingmax PC3500 RAM
> Nvidia 6800 non-ultra 128mb
>
> Also, the software that came with the Samsung is really good. I
> provides for a tremendous amount of control over the color and gamma
> of the monitor. For the price, I'm very, very satisfied. And it's
> nice to have the option of gaming on it. I even ran 3DMark01 SE to
> see what 300fps looked like, and, again, virtually not ghosting. It
> makes me wonder how monitor manufacturers determine response time.
> I've seen more ghosting on monitors rated at 16ms. It could be like
> other "standards." Perhaps they're not "standard" at all, but rather
> up to the discretion of the maker.
>

Been using a 17" LCD display for a couple years now for both EQ and EQ2,
it's always worked great.

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Anonymous
April 19, 2005 8:11:51 AM

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"Jake" <jake@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:TWz8e.5157$0V2.3511@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Like many gamers, I've been reluctant to replace my trusty CRT with an
> LCD.
> While I used to play many games, nowadays I play mostly EQ2, so my concern
> is how EQ2 will perform with any new hardware I use. Given the demands of
> the EQ2 graphics, I'm sticking with my 21" Trinitron. However, I also do
> a
> good bit of digital photography and editing, so last week I purchased a
> Samsung 913v 19" LCD ($375) from Sam's for a machine I built for use with
> Photoshop and Premiere. The specs of the monitor are good enough for what
> I
> do, even with the analog input. Given its 25ms response time, it never
> crossed my mind that I could use it for EQ2. However, while I had it
> hooked
> up to my gaming rig for initial setup (while I finished the other
> computer),
> I logged on and played some EQ2. I was blown away by the performance!! I
> expected massive ghosting and blur, but during a couple of hours of some
> pretty serious fighting, I experienced virtually NO ghosting or blur. And
> the game looks great.
>
> Your mileage may vary. I just wanted to report a positive experience with
> a
> 25ms RT LCD. The gaming rig is:
>
> AMD Athlon Barton core 2500+ oc'ed to 2.4ghz
> Abit NF7 motherboard
> 1gb Kingmax PC3500 RAM
> Nvidia 6800 non-ultra 128mb
>
> Also, the software that came with the Samsung is really good. I provides
> for a tremendous amount of control over the color and gamma of the
> monitor.
> For the price, I'm very, very satisfied. And it's nice to have the option
> of gaming on it. I even ran 3DMark01 SE to see what 300fps looked like,
> and, again, virtually not ghosting. It makes me wonder how monitor
> manufacturers determine response time. I've seen more ghosting on
> monitors
> rated at 16ms. It could be like other "standards." Perhaps they're not
> "standard" at all, but rather up to the discretion of the maker.
>
> jake
>
>
>

I use a BENQ fp737s with WOW (used to use it with eq1), and I also have no
problems with ghosting or anything else.
Also obviously there is no flicker.
I would never go back to a CRT monitor.
!