U.S. Cable installed in Iraq

people are dieing of hunger, lack of medical treatment and anarchy is rampant


so teh U.S. installs cable TV. now, the people of Iraq can watch western advertisement while waitin for the new government. it all makes you wonder ifthe Iraq people are actually being thought of...

can you say "Western Globalization"?

this is like, 20 million more people for the corporations to extent their tentacles into.. and now Iran is interfering and the US has offially warned them

i saw this on Tech Live, a television show... on Tech TV




im probalby going to get flamed for this because a few of you think im anti-american. im not. im anti-western. this includes my country, canada. and im against globalization as well..

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i think its kind of ridculas anyways. people are being killed... theres no law


i think the focus should be elsewhere. if theres extra resources, then it should be used to benifit the people, not advertising

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The thing is that they are working on restoring the law. It's just that they are working on Cable TV too, and last time I looked, it is a LOT easier to install cable TV than to restore order in a country thats in the shape Iraq is in right now. Thus, the cable TV gets done first....

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Or American Idol....now <font color=red>THAT</font color=red> would be torture.



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Dammit, I had just gone and managed to repress all memory of American Idol, and her you go and start reminding me.

At least it was better than the Canadian version called Pop Stars. That show was truely hideous, and they had it on just before The Simpsons (or just after, I can't really remember).

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Give people TV and they needn't go outside for information.

Give people TV and their inner self feels more secure.

What's the first thing you do every day to get your information?

You either go online, or turn on the TV or radio. TV provides a more personal touch to the medium of information.

Might keep folk off the streets that may be at risk, or it might also prevent uprisings.

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Hmmm. I doubt it.

Cheese from goats only. No edam or gouda.
Windmills? Hmmm.
Bacon. Don't think they eat pig.
Tulips would shrivel.






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i suppose it is a good way to have contact wiht them

but, man... what is north american TV comprised of.. shopping channells.. music channells.. and like CNN. honesltly i dont trust CNN. i mean, if you watch any other countries news channell and CNN at the same time telling the same piece of news, they have totally different feel to them..

CNN seems to only promote the things that benifit the us gov't, not things that are bad for Iraq people

but hey, im just a young guy, what do i noe. honestly

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i reckon the only channel they should get is BBC.

its the only non bias news channel, they tell it how it is and don't add any of this america is the best crap!!!!!


its just US propaganda that they are installing NOT cable tv.

if france installed it then i would say its french propaganda, but if BBC installed it then i would be happy.

(p.s. i don't live in europe BTW, so i don't like BBC because of patriotism)





its not globalisation its AMERICANISATION. its much worse!!!!!

That's Dutch

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The BBC was renamed by the army the Baghdad Broadcasting Corporation for a very good reason...

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yeah he Crashman, .. somehow because you said it, it makes alot of sense...

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Prolly because you did it on the graphics card forum during a hardware argument...tsk-tsk! You see, if people want to argue politics, they come here to "Other" forums. When you start with it on hardware forums, you get people when they aren't expecting it.






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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Twitch on 04/27/03 01:38 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

hey WTF why is being LEFT WING A CRIME


all the right wing fu-ckers out there are allowed to post without getting flamed too.


p.s. BBC actually covers BOTH sides of the argument very well!!!!!!!!!!!! i see debates between equall numbers of US people and IRAQ people, some from each countyr are for /against it so they get all the views.


also it may be labeled as "Baghdad broadcasting" by United states citizens BECAUSE the US people wouldn't know whats fair/even broadcasting if it bit them in the BUM.

the matter of the fact is that 75% of US citizens are on BUSHS side on it, while its almost opposite in most other countrys with 75% of people dissagreeing with BUSH.

so even if BBC showed an opinion that was 70% against the war, then it would be a good reflection of international opinion, but as i say again i saw equal amounts on both sides of the wall, they even had a half hour section on how other countrys portrayed the war.

the US was major right wing.
france was major left wing.


seeing the difference between both of them you soon realise that BBC is very much in the middle.


p.s. yes i was protesting against john howard (wankers = howard & blair & bush, it says so in the lefty dictionary)



ha ha ha i am left wing i am left wing and i LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!




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For Svol:

Of course, the BBC still is nothing compared to the Dutch media.

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What's the wing thing you're all talking about? You talkin' about the communism-capitalism bar?
Forgive me ignorance, I jumped through all this to post my own thoughts, so I didn't read much.


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There's more than one left-right scale.

If you envision the center as being a true moderate, or a person who is generally neutral on political matters, then the further to the left you go from that center, the more the central government dominates day-to-day life. The further to the right you go, the less power the central government has. The furthest left is Communism, and the furthest right is Anarchy.

Some also identify not in terms of governmental control, but rather in terms of "how many people control the state." In that context, Communism would be far left, and fascism would be far-right.

It sort of depends on how you were educated. I look at the political scale in terms of how much government there is. As a practical matter, it can be viewed in terms of how much money per capita does the government need in order to operate. The less money, the further right, the more money, the further left.

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personally i think the

LEFT/ right wing scale is more than just that.


left wing people tend to care about long term SOCIAL GOALS, while right wing is short term ECONOMIC GOALS


such as enviromentalists being considered LEFT WING, because they want to create a future habitat for people to be able to comfortably live, while dirty polluting oil companys tend to be classified as RIGHT WING because they do not care about human costs of pollution and rather focus on MONEY which by nature is only a short term thing.

left wing people tend to be more humanitarianistic, and perfer not to have bloodshed, while the right wing tend to be more along the lines of "if i have somthing to gain then lets go for it"

left wing people tend to focus on SOCIALISM (comunisim is extreme socialisim), while right wing people focus on CAPITALISIM (anarchy is extreme capitalisim)

right wing politics is based on selfishness, and individuality the person who has the power!!

left wing tends to be for the comunity, and doing things to put power into the hands of the many (PUBLIC librarys, education, healthcare etc... all socialist ideals, while private hospitals schools etc... are all capitalist ideas)



right wing is SURVIVAL OF THE FITEST
left wing is COMMON SURIVAL.


each has merits and each has its bad points (well ok communisim is perfect in therory, except in practise it is corupted and basicly becomes dictatorship. but socialism if done correctly (impossible) would make the "perfect world" of peace and harmony. while capitalisim if done correctly would lead to slavery and all sorts of other crap)



ha ha ha just thought i would add in little bits of LEFTY opinion in there LOL!!!!!

you know why the US is so afraid of communisim?????
well i sure as hell don't!!!!!!!!




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there is a balance i belive!!!

Na, no communism for me... it sucks in reality. Give me some socialism.

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Umm, if people weren't selfish and greedy, or if everyone was perfect, wouldn't <i>anarchy</i> be the best system of government??? I mean, the only reason we even need governments in the first place is because people are SELFISH GREEDY ANIMALS.

Leftists just don't get it though. They think that somehow mankind is going to overcome tens of thousands of years of survival instincts and just "turn off" our greediness and selfishness. And the way for that to happen, in their opinion, is to have a nanny government there to babysit everyone.

Sorry, but I've heard many people say that "Communism" would be the ideal government if everyone was hard-working, good, and peaceful. That's just stupid. If everyone was that way, why would you need a government at all?

Give me freedom any time.


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I'm pretty much convinced that the reason lefties have complained so continuously about the television coverage of the war is a simple one: They're mad because they were hoping to invent wild tales of American and British atrocities in Iraq. Now they're mad because the embedded reporters and full-disclosure of good news and bad news by the U.S.'s and Britain's respective high-commands has
ruined one of their favorite tactics; whining about how cruel and ruthless our troops are.

Much to the opposite, the world saw military men and women who actually care about humanity, and who took every pain and every measure to avoid the death of innocents--even when it put them in greater danger to do so. I mean, it would have been easy for us to level every free-standing structure in Iraq, and we probably would have lost fewer soldiers doing so, but the death-toll and destruction on the Iraqi side would have been horrific.

Anyway, that's just a pet theory of mine. They didn't like the T.V. coverage because it wasn't nearly negative enough for their taste.


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hey RobD


you see the thing is you as a service person or EX serivce person, are/were not a civilian (unless you have since left service)

well to make my point i really couldn't give a sh-it if during duty you died in battle the matter of fact is you are a NUMBER a PAWN and a military target!!!!!

once you are home i think all military people desirve respect from people and have the right to not have protestors in their face, as you are only human and desirve the respect.

i feel all your arguments are based on you feeling that just because we are not on your side we don't respect you, and frankly i find that rather insulting to me.

just because you don't want to listen to a tv channel that says war is bad doesn't mean they think the people involved are bad it means they don't agree with a decision made by a person in power!!!

i personaly am sadend how soldiers are treated by people on return from a war (such as veit nam)

but i think your using respect as a reason for a news channel you don't like being WRONG, i think thats crazy.
do you think it shows more respect to
say war is great and go SHOOT EM, SHOOT EM, GET EM IN THE FACE!!!!!!
or say WAR SUCKS NOBODY SHOULD DIE!!!!!

its just because YOU feel disrespected by people not suporting YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how do you think every IRAQI feels when they watch their newly installed cable and see anti iraq coverage.




as for terrorisim don't even bring it up it has NOTHING TO DO WITH IRAQ, oh sure you could say they might terrorise you but have they NA THEY HAVN'T so by your logic do you think north korea has a good reason to attack the USA because the USA might attack them, well i certainly don't!!!!!!



so please show some respect to other people in the world as you demand respect from us.
imagine how it feels to have all you family die your aunts and uncles having NO ARMS AND LEGS and you havng a horribly disfigured face with only one eye.

well show them some respect by NOT FIGHTING.

i respect you but i don't respect you saying that BBC is bad just because they didn't suport you. that is sore loserish talk!!!! its like saing you don't want anyone from the other team to chant songs from the stadium.
C'MON

and the war for peace thing is BULLSHIT, we have yet to see peace anywhere in the world and we have beeen waring for eternity. so by your theroy you are wrong!!!!!! as lasting peace has never existed while war is happening. LOL its funny that this quote ever existed!!!



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very well put

both of you

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