Oh my god ,what a bunch of whiney lamers(link inside)

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Meldur <Meldur@t-online.de> wrote in
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Unbelievable. The golden child class in EQ threatening to retire because
they don't get invis.

I have a question. I'm sure it does happen, but is it really that often
that the cleric dies and no one else in the group with invis dies as well?

If your group wipes and no one cares to escort you back for rezzes, I'd say
maybe you're in the wrong group.

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In article <Xns965B728335BBERumbledorhotmailcom@63.240.76.16>,
Rumbledor <Rumbledor@hotspamsuxmail.com> wrote:
>> http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq/board/message?board...
>> ge.id=4119
>
>Unbelievable. The golden child class in EQ threatening to retire because
>they don't get invis.

Yeah, ha ha, he had to spend 7 AAs on origin instead of buying
one of those little idols in the bazaar...

IMHO the biggest problem with being a cleric is the lack of high
level undead mobs to break the monotony of sit stand heal. Although
I've had some success with the ravagers in UP.

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wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) wrote in news 6ifdj$ld$1
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> In article <Xns965B728335BBERumbledorhotmailcom@63.240.76.16>,
> Rumbledor <Rumbledor@hotspamsuxmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq/board/message?
board.id=Cleric&messa
>>> ge.id=4119
>>
>>Unbelievable. The golden child class in EQ threatening to retire
because
>>they don't get invis.
>
> Yeah, ha ha, he had to spend 7 AAs on origin instead of buying
> one of those little idols in the bazaar...
>
> IMHO the biggest problem with being a cleric is the lack of high
> level undead mobs to break the monotony of sit stand heal. Although
> I've had some success with the ravagers in UP.
>

Been to crypt of decay lately?

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the wharf rat wrote:
> In article <Xns965B728335BBERumbledorhotmailcom@63.240.76.16>,
> Rumbledor <Rumbledor@hotspamsuxmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq/board/message?board...
>>>ge.id=4119
>>
>>Unbelievable. The golden child class in EQ threatening to retire because
>>they don't get invis.
>
>
> Yeah, ha ha, he had to spend 7 AAs on origin instead of buying
> one of those little idols in the bazaar...
>
> IMHO the biggest problem with being a cleric is the lack of high
> level undead mobs to break the monotony of sit stand heal. Although
> I've had some success with the ravagers in UP.
>
>
I think the monotony is their hostility. It would be more fun if occasionally there were undead that ran away if they
saw adventurers. There was a Lich in an ancient D&D module (Judges Guild?) that had forgotten he was undead, and just
thought he was getting decrepit in his old age.

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In article <Xns965B6CF2B7E57richardrapiernetscap@130.133.1.4>,
Graeme Faelban <RichardRapier@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>Been to crypt of decay lately?
>

Well no actually I only ever go there for raids...

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wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) wrote in news 6jkmb$cet$1
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> In article <Xns965B6CF2B7E57richardrapiernetscap@130.133.1.4>,
> Graeme Faelban <RichardRapier@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>>Been to crypt of decay lately?
>
> Well no actually I only ever go there for raids...
>

Good soloing, lots of undead, lt blue to blue to level 70.

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In article <Xns965C64026AED2richardrapiernetscap@130.133.1.4>,
Graeme Faelban <RichardRapier@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>Been to crypt of decay lately?

I gave this a try, and those puslings still pretty much kicked
my butt, sigh...


What's the deal with those undead skeleton guys in the house
in PoV? Are they for a quest or something? I've tried em a few times
but can't ever seem to get a single pull...

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<wrat@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <Xns965C64026AED2richardrapiernetscap@130.133.1.4>,
> Graeme Faelban <RichardRapier@netscape.net> wrote:
> >>>Been to crypt of decay lately?
>
> I gave this a try, and those puslings still pretty much kicked
> my butt, sigh...
>
>
> What's the deal with those undead skeleton guys in the house
> in PoV? Are they for a quest or something? I've tried em a few times
> but can't ever seem to get a single pull...

They weren't all that easy to get single as a monk. Might try pacify, if
you can actually manage to cast it without getting proximity aggro.

You also might think about earning some DoN points and getting the cleric
damage shield spell. I hear it does wonders (relatively speaking) for
cleric DPS.

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Meldur wrote:
>> Problem with Cleric soloing is there are no undead mobs in the level
> range I need close to a PoK book,run to Chardok B is annoying,it
> would be nice if there was a spot,which I could reach in a reasonable
> time to get some xp while looking for group.
When I made my first character, with help from my son, before we knew
anything, I made a dwarf cleric. Put 25 pts into strength and 5 into
wis (int?). And proceeded to primarily solo to lvl 29. Root, nuke,
melee, heal myself. Repeat. Things got alot easier when i upgraded my
1hb to blackjack. I can still take a blue con. (so much for class
balance)

So whats the big deal about clerics soloing? lol

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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:35:59 -0500, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote:

><wrat@panix.com> wrote:
>> In article <Xns965C64026AED2richardrapiernetscap@130.133.1.4>,
>> Graeme Faelban <RichardRapier@netscape.net> wrote:
>> >>>Been to crypt of decay lately?
>>
>> I gave this a try, and those puslings still pretty much kicked
>> my butt, sigh...
>>
>>
>> What's the deal with those undead skeleton guys in the house
>> in PoV? Are they for a quest or something? I've tried em a few times
>> but can't ever seem to get a single pull...
>
>They weren't all that easy to get single as a monk. Might try pacify, if
>you can actually manage to cast it without getting proximity aggro.
>
>You also might think about earning some DoN points and getting the cleric
>damage shield spell. I hear it does wonders (relatively speaking) for
>cleric DPS.

It is *NOT* a damage shield.I got the level 61 version,it "procs"(dont
know how to say it better) randomly for 405 damage,uses SCF AAs,
is self only(unlike the Shaman version),and the Cleric needs to tank.
So what does this all mean in everyday solo xping(most groups wont
accept the Cleric maintanking I think   )?
I tested it on undead mobs at entrance of Chardok B,which are around
level 55 to 58.In an average fight it goes off 6 to 8 times,me
tanking,meleeing and chain nuking.So I get around 4k damage from
it for 500 mana;for me it means I could make some solo xp where I
could not before,I average 1 AA in 2h to 2 1/2h.
Depending on how often I get spell crits,I finish the fights with 20%
to 50% health,lowest was 3%(ouch),and loose about 25% mana.
My Cleric is level 65,89 AAs(SCF4 among them),has 5k hps buffed,
41% haste from Tribute,full Focus gear,FT 15 from items,I usually have
no Kei or other non-self buffs.

Problem with Cleric soloing is there are no undead mobs in the level
range I need close to a PoK book,run to Chardok B is annoying,it
would be nice if there was a spot,which I could reach in a reasonable
time to get some xp while looking for group.

Mheldur 65 Cleric
Uland 67 Hunter

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<Meldur@t-online.de> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:35:59 -0500, Faned <faned@wyld.qx.net> wrote:
>
> ><wrat@panix.com> wrote:
> >> In article <Xns965C64026AED2richardrapiernetscap@130.133.1.4>,
> >> Graeme Faelban <RichardRapier@netscape.net> wrote:
> >> >>>Been to crypt of decay lately?
> >>
> >> I gave this a try, and those puslings still pretty much kicked
> >> my butt, sigh...
> >>
> >>
> >> What's the deal with those undead skeleton guys in the house
> >> in PoV? Are they for a quest or something? I've tried em a few times
> >> but can't ever seem to get a single pull...
> >
> >They weren't all that easy to get single as a monk. Might try pacify, if
> >you can actually manage to cast it without getting proximity aggro.
> >
> >You also might think about earning some DoN points and getting the cleric
> >damage shield spell. I hear it does wonders (relatively speaking) for
> >cleric DPS.
>
> It is *NOT* a damage shield.I got the level 61 version,it "procs"(dont
> know how to say it better) randomly for 405 damage,uses SCF AAs,
> is self only(unlike the Shaman version),and the Cleric needs to tank.
> So what does this all mean in everyday solo xping(most groups wont
> accept the Cleric maintanking I think   )?

You get hit, it does damage. It's a damage shield. =)

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"Faned" wrote:
>
>> It is *NOT* a damage shield.I got the level 61 version,
>> it "procs"(dont know how to say it better) randomly for
>> 405 damage,uses SCF AAs, is self only(unlike the Shaman
>> version),and the Cleric needs to tank. So what does this
>> all mean in everyday solo xping(most groups wont accept
>> the Cleric maintanking I think   )?
>
> You get hit, it does damage. It's a damage shield. =)

A damage shield, in EQ terms, is something that damages the mob *every time*
the mob hits you. The cleric spell does not.

The best description I've heard of the cleric Ward is "castable Parry".
That's very apt; clerics don't get the Parry skill, so casting this Ward on
us gives us a very effective Parry for the spell's duration.

Either way, by the standard nomenclature, it is not a damage shield. It if
is a damage shield, then the Parry skill is a damage shield, too, and no one
thinks that.


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Being quite melee-ignorant, I have just now realized that every time I wrote
"Parry", I meant "Riposte". =/


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"Richard Lawson" <nouma@msn.com> wrote in message
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> "Faned" wrote:
>>
>>> It is *NOT* a damage shield.I got the level 61 version,
>>> it "procs"(dont know how to say it better) randomly for
>>> 405 damage,uses SCF AAs, is self only(unlike the Shaman
>>> version),and the Cleric needs to tank. So what does this
>>> all mean in everyday solo xping(most groups wont accept
>>> the Cleric maintanking I think   )?
>>
>> You get hit, it does damage. It's a damage shield. =)
>
> A damage shield, in EQ terms, is something that damages the mob *every
> time* the mob hits you. The cleric spell does not.
>
> The best description I've heard of the cleric Ward is "castable Parry".
> That's very apt; clerics don't get the Parry skill, so casting this Ward
> on us gives us a very effective Parry for the spell's duration.
>
> Either way, by the standard nomenclature, it is not a damage shield. It
> if is a damage shield, then the Parry skill is a damage shield, too, and
> no one thinks that.
>
>
> --
> -Richard
>
> Monual Lifegiver
> Prelate of Rodcet Nife
> Povar server
>

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<nouma@msn.com> wrote:
> "Faned" wrote:
> >
> >> It is *NOT* a damage shield.I got the level 61 version,
> >> it "procs"(dont know how to say it better) randomly for
> >> 405 damage,uses SCF AAs, is self only(unlike the Shaman
> >> version),and the Cleric needs to tank. So what does this
> >> all mean in everyday solo xping(most groups wont accept
> >> the Cleric maintanking I think   )?
> >
> > You get hit, it does damage. It's a damage shield. =)
>
> A damage shield, in EQ terms, is something that damages the mob *every time*
> the mob hits you. The cleric spell does not.

If you're going to restrict it in that arbitrary way, how about restricting
the semantic definition in yet another obvious way, and state that, in EQ
terms, a damage shield is a spell cast on a player or mob that damages
anyone attacking it.

Of course, that makes all the rest of the cleric damage shields also not
damage shields. =)

It also makes some druid and magician skills problematic to categorize,
particularly the single-hit damage shields.

> Either way, by the standard nomenclature, it is not a damage shield. It if
> is a damage shield, then the Parry skill is a damage shield, too, and no one
> thinks that.

There is a fundamental difference with the riposte skill (though I wouldn't
be opposed to considering it a damage shield). It also prevents damage to
the person getting hit.


I guess the best way to find out if anything qualifies as a damage shield
"in EQ terms" is to see whether the damage shield mods on equipment work
with it. It might be tricky finding a cleric with a damage shield mod on
equipment. =) It is, however, unlikely that the other cleric damage
shields will be affected by the damage shield mods. I've never tested it to
find out.

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wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) wrote in news 8kvvd$9fp$1
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> In article <Xns965C64026AED2richardrapiernetscap@130.133.1.4>,
> Graeme Faelban <RichardRapier@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>>Been to crypt of decay lately?
>
> I gave this a try, and those puslings still pretty much kicked
> my butt, sigh...
>
>
> What's the deal with those undead skeleton guys in the house
> in PoV? Are they for a quest or something? I've tried em a few times
> but can't ever seem to get a single pull...
>

Well, I was not talking about soloing them, just relieving the monotony of
stand heal sit.

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In article <1118758861.188809.100480@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
<zigipha@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>So whats the big deal about clerics soloing? lol
>

It's fun to do for a change or while you're LFG. It's much
harder later on when the mobs hurt you faster than you can heal yourself
or have so many hitpoints that your hammer wears out before they hit 50%.

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In article <Xns9675519B21D0richardrapiernetscap@130.133.1.4>,
Graeme Faelban <RichardRapier@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>Well, I was not talking about soloing them, just relieving the monotony of
>stand heal sit.
>

Oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood. These days unless we're in someplace
like riftseekers I can always stand up and (try to) hit the mobs, or
have nukes resisted, or have stuns not take effect :-) if I'm bored. What
I'm looking for is a way to feel like I'm _doing_ something.

What I've hit on is duoing with a chanter in Veksar. The mobs
here aren't trivial but they're not that tough. I tank (because it's a
little more DPS and more fun than just healing the pet), he charms and
slows and nukes. We've also done this in Acrylia. It's nice because
niether of us can conveniently solo here (his pet dies too fast and I take
a full mana bar to kill anything) but together we can have a little fun
and even get some loot.

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zigipha@hotmail.com wrote in news:1118758861.188809.100480
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>
>
> Meldur wrote:
>>> Problem with Cleric soloing is there are no undead mobs in the level
>> range I need close to a PoK book,run to Chardok B is annoying,it
>> would be nice if there was a spot,which I could reach in a reasonable
>> time to get some xp while looking for group.
> When I made my first character, with help from my son, before we knew
> anything, I made a dwarf cleric. Put 25 pts into strength and 5 into
> wis (int?). And proceeded to primarily solo to lvl 29. Root, nuke,
> melee, heal myself. Repeat. Things got alot easier when i upgraded my
> 1hb to blackjack. I can still take a blue con. (so much for class
> balance)
>
> So whats the big deal about clerics soloing? lol
>

Well, we are discussing the upper levels, not high 20s, low 30s, things
get much tougher for a cleric in terms of soloing as he levels up. Not
to say it is impossible, just very hard to find suitable targets.

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there's a great website with 40 secret methods for powerleveling 1-60
in about 7 days and making up to 10,000 plat per hour.

http://www.eqtotalsecrets.com

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In article <1118880056.715521.118240@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
<eqtotalsecrets@yahoo.com> wrote:
>there's a great website with 40 secret methods for powerleveling 1-60

Pffffttttt.