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February 14, 2011 6:25:12 PM

You stop supporting exclusive PC titles, and nobody will buy the latest Intel CPUs and nVidia/AMD GPUs. Not sure where you get your info, but you can pretty much torrent any XBOX 360 titles and other console games.
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February 14, 2011 6:34:56 PM

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Guerrilla Games' upcoming Killzone 3 for the PlayStation 3 has also entered the BitTorrent current just one week before its release.


Hmmm...guess consoles don't have piracy. Its all good.
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February 14, 2011 6:41:00 PM

I won't be pirating Crysis 2 no matter how excited I am, I think I can wait a month.

Crytek are a great bunch, they put a lot of hard work into detailing the Crysis games so they deserve my money.
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February 14, 2011 6:47:54 PM

I'm playing it now and I'm still going to buy it next month. They just like to wine for advertising PR. I just consider it a playable demo that they left us out on.
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February 14, 2011 6:54:00 PM

It seems like the harder they DRM, the more things get pirated. I forgot the company, but some game studio put out their game without any sort of DRM, you didn't even need the disc in to play. After a month, the piracy on it via Bittorrent was HUGE, but they still hit the sales goals they had set if they included DRM.
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February 14, 2011 6:59:16 PM

I heard somewhere that the Crysis 2 torrent release is not the final release of the game, as some pieces are missing and whatnot. Not really interested in the game anyway so I doubt I'll be buying it.
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February 14, 2011 7:02:55 PM

Pay for the game... and maybe we'll get another one. I can understand the "me want now!" attitude that some of the downloaders may have, but not the "me want free" one. To NOT pay for what is sure to be a great title from a quality house (and not just another crappy Console port) is no way to support PC Gaming.
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February 14, 2011 7:08:23 PM

I hear a lot of pirateers complain and say its Just as easy to mod and steal a console game. I find it really strange that most if not all pirate most their pc games and their console is unmoded. It's a legitimate problem with archaic solutions that dont work. It seems that risking getting your 200$ console getting bricked is their only deterrent. But thats Just my personal expirience. I refuse to pirate things that would die if no one paid for them.
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February 14, 2011 7:08:48 PM

dimarYou stop supporting exclusive PC titles, and nobody will buy the latest Intel CPUs and nVidia/AMD GPUs. Not sure where you get your info, but you can pretty much torrent any XBOX 360 titles and other console games.

GPUs... maybe... CPUs? Video encoders say hi.

And as far as console piracy goes - it's a lot more involved. PC piracy you need to DL and double click. 360, if I understand correctly, requires you to open the xbox and flash some firmware using a sata cable and DOS. So yeah, you can do it if you're a techie like us, but little Billy's a lot less likely to try it.
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February 14, 2011 7:10:15 PM

So, the same article says Killzone 3 got up on the torrent sites as well. Still the developers have the guts to say that consoles don't have piracy problem? PC games are what drive the gaming hardware industry towards evolution.
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February 14, 2011 7:11:42 PM

Ya it just a beta copy. The lightings all weird, the sounds aren't done, it wont auto saved load games and it locks up somtimes. I dont know why there complaining i dont know any who would play it and say they dont need the finished game. Its playable but i got it just to see the game and how it would play on my hardware(AMD 965 x4 3.4 phenom with ati 4770X2 crossfire runs the game at 1600x900 at max setting at 30-40 fps granted the game not finished yet). I think there only worried about is the DRM Solidshield master key and the engine editor that could be used later on the fished product. A lot of companies do open beta testing and is does not hurt there sales. But i would say the game is a buyer.
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February 14, 2011 7:12:43 PM

One benefit of these wonderful pirates:

My CF 5870's will be running games at MAX for the next 10 years because of this. No developer is going to make a PC exclusive to push graphix now.
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February 14, 2011 7:15:40 PM

This is truly sad. Crysis was a great game! Probably the best game i have played since half-life 2.All those complaining about PC gamers getting console ports should thank all the people who torrent the game and play it for free. I feel like the days of having awesome games for the PC are over! Please buy the damn game and stop stealing it! The devs deserve it it brings more to us PC gamers.
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February 14, 2011 7:18:10 PM

I remember hacking Commodore 64 games when I was 14 LOL
Nowadays as a responsible 40 year old I pay for games.
As long as they have a decent playable demo for free to try out.
Also helps my best friend is a Gamestop Manager :) 
Nothing sucks more than buying a $59.99 USD game and it is lame.
Then you of course youi cant return it for money back opened.
And if you can find some store to buy used PC games your lucky to get
$10 for a opened game that was used once!
Also as already stated the companies should stop spending money on anti piracy technology.
It would directly save on the bottom line.
People who are going to buy it will still buy it and
Pirates always hack the DRM anyway.
It is sad I cant make a backup copy of my run disks in case they get scratched.
And all customer service can tell you is buy another $50 copy....
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February 14, 2011 7:28:12 PM

I don't understand why more game developers don't register game serial numbers to online accounts. This seems like a tried and true way to combat piracy.

And the previous comment was asking about Sins of a Solar Empire. That game had massive sales because it was Awesome!

Make a good game, and people will buy it.

Crysis and Crysis Warhead were pretty, but I thought the multiplayer aspect sucked, and these days unless I plan to heavily invest in the multiplayer portion, I'm not going to buy it. I've learned my lesson on buying games that barely have any online community. I've played 400+ games of Starcraft 2 in comparison, that's a game well worth what I paid for.
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February 14, 2011 7:33:08 PM

Really they need to give up on DRM if they make it, it will be hacked. Its to simple to do (for some)... They want to sell games stop charging 60+ for a game I'd buy a lot more if they were 20 to 25 dollars a game. Make it easier for us Broke Asses to have the game. Just think you buy 5 new games a year how much that is $300 vs. $125 if they would make them cheaper you know DVD's don't cost that much. And what good is it to buy them for 60+ and soon as you beat them it goes on the shelf. Never to be played again.
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February 14, 2011 7:41:18 PM

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Friday brought reports that a (near-final) developer build of Crysis 2 found its way into the BitTorrent pipeline.


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"Crytek has been alerted that an early incomplete, unfinished build of Crysis 2 has appeared on Torrent sites,"


Uhhh...

I think I'm going to trust EA on this since I've seen screenshots of it and it's a mess. It's a build that is apparently over a year old.
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February 14, 2011 7:52:33 PM

D_KuhnPay for the game... and maybe we'll get another one. I can understand the "me want now!" attitude that some of the downloaders may have, but not the "me want free" one. To NOT pay for what is sure to be a great title from a quality house (and not just another crappy Console port) is no way to support PC Gaming.

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... and on top of that, some users think they're "smart" by getting stuff free and not considering that free only goes for a short time until it's broke. Sure, I want stuff too and preferably free, but I also want to get paid for my work and wouldn't call people "stupid" who actually are willing to pay for it.
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February 14, 2011 8:11:30 PM

Its funny how they complain of PC pirating, but while i was living in asia it was so much easier to get pirated consol games, especialy since the same people usualy would mod your consol (for a small fee) in a couple of hours. they can complain about PC pirating all they want, but in my opinion these companies are loosing alot more cash from pirated consol games. they just dont see it because most people would buy from these stores since bandwith is so expensive over there ,and so most consol pirates cant even be tracked. I would say take the pirate statistics for consols and multiply it by 5 and you would have about the right number... at least for the philippines and the countries in that region.

The fact is most can afford consols alot more readily then computers, and when it only cost 20 bucks to make it so you can play pirates that means you can play pirated consols for about 300 to 350 bucks, and pay about 5 bucks for any title. However compared to pirating PC games you have to first worry about viruses, which is relatively common, you have to worry about performance needed for the game, bugs in the game releas, applying buggy game cracks, lacking the ability to apply patches in most cases.

PC games are always being updated for hardware compatability this makes it so more hacks are needed to continue playing, consol hardware does not change much making it extremely easy for the end user to use pirated consol titles.

If by small chance PC titles are being pirated more its because PC users want to make sure that its not crap since most of the PC releases lately whre pritty weak. Consol pirating is only going to skyrocket its faster and easier for people to set up shops dedicated to hacks and pirating for consols in the third world, and its a no brainer that there hacks will go on the web.

Companies really need to start understanding that there consoles are not forts and that there standardized hardware is a god send to hackers world wide. I havent seen anything change in regard to this since SNES, when you where able to get a floppy drive and pirate games with 3.5 floppies.
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February 14, 2011 8:14:25 PM

alphadarkBlah blah DRM blah blah Consoles have piracy also blah blah blah games are to expensive.Stop making excuses, you're all a bunch of thieves. You didn't pay for it so stop acting like your fucking entitled to something. Were even lucky to get a port nowadays. If I was running a business I wouldn't even bother with a bunch of fucking criminals. It's like opening a dine and dash restaurant, fucking stupid.


I pay for all of my games. But it is game companies who are making excuses of piracy just so they can sell more. Even assuming piracy did not exist pc gamers would eventually get water down console ports. It just annoys me how they are using piracy as their scapegoat.
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February 14, 2011 8:15:33 PM

It's more of a hassle to download those cracked games and get them running right, than to just purchase it on Steam. Besides, Crysis 2 should be friggin sweet, and will deserve my money.
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February 14, 2011 8:19:12 PM

This rising piracy thing is laughable. There has always been piracy on the PC, and that hasn't stopped Crytek from coming to life in the meantime, producing Far Cry, and with the money of those sales making Crysis and with the money of those sales making Warhead (the latter two I bought), which in turn gave them fame and recognition, and that's why they could now get the funding to build on 3 different platforms.

Back in the eighties and early nineties you just had to copy the games from one floppy to another, sometimes spanning multiple floppies, using ARJ, for example and eventually copying the access codes. Consoles were always more difficult to hack, but even then I remember you could buy special cartridges that contained 3 or more games that normally cost way more than the asking price of said cartridge. So, yes, piracy has always been there, on all platforms.

And there always will be. I even remember the original Prince of Persia game getting hacked. And guess what, the game sold so well they made a sequel, and twenty years after, we now have sequels in high definition glorious 3D, and even a movie.


Remember a guy called John Carmack ? ID Software ? Wolfenstein 3D ? Doom ? Quake ? Hell, even Duke Nukem, by Apogee/ID, was shareware, and it worked. I don't recall Carmack being a poor man living under the bridge because of piracy. Now we have Steam. And it works. I love Steam. Why can't EA just stop whining and be smart ?

Yes, piracy. It's like bacteria, it does good things and bad things.

It's very easy to make piracy a scapegoat, especially when you normally get to charge more for a game on a console, for less investment. After all, they are all fine-tuning 2005/2006 graphics libraries on the consoles. But we all know the formula1 is the PC. DX11 will get into consoles, and they will do it first on the PC, even with all the piracy. They sell, aways have. And I will buy their game if it's worth it. I support good publishers that produce good games. Not necessarily publishers that ask me to buy their games.



P.S.: Talking about Steam and good games, Portal 2 is now up for Pre-Purchase with a free copy of Portal bundled for those who haven't or to give to a friend! I'll be pre-purchasing!
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February 14, 2011 8:24:48 PM

I miss shareware.
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February 14, 2011 8:31:22 PM

The game gets hacked before it's getting released...I wouldn't blame that it is because it was a PC game, since no one owns it now to rip it off and upload it. It sounds like an inside job to me, or someone left their computer unsecured.
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February 14, 2011 8:43:27 PM

50$ for one game. This is why I do not buy games directly. Especially that *rap that EA does with PC version of FIFA.
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February 14, 2011 8:47:50 PM

Yes, that is quite a fitting juxtaposition: following up Crytek's typical "PC games get pirated, so we'll make piracy-free console ones instead" directly with a note that what would be one of the biggest "serious gamer" console titles... Is ALSO being pirated before it even gets officially released.

Playing a pirated game on a console isn't as complicated as many might think: it's not necessary to open up the 'box and solder in a chip or something... Most of it's done with soft mods which, when done properly, don't have any real downsides. Plus, they take no real techie knowledge to do. (and besides, most enthusiasts here seem to drastically overestimate the gap between their abilities and the typical gamer's) The fact that console games never come with any significant built-in DRM (since they assume that no one pirates on consoles...) only makes it easier.

nicklasd87I don't understand why more game developers don't register game serial numbers to online accounts. This seems like a tried and true way to combat piracy.

Uh, serial numbers didn't stop StarCraft II from being pirated 2.3 million times in 90 days. All the serial numbers really do is raise piracy concerns for the legit buyers. That's more or less the same problem with any DRM, in that it doesn't stop piracy, and only burdens the legitimate buyers. Pirated copies just have a hack to disable that check, just like games of old had hacks to disable the game checking for the CD.
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February 14, 2011 8:51:18 PM

Im not touching that torrent. Ill be buying Crysis 2 for my PC to support the developers because they put alot of hard work into this game.
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February 14, 2011 9:04:07 PM

Good PC games deserve to be purchased in order to ensure good game exist in the future!!! Piracy in the long run will indeed ruin PC gaming! :-P Cheap asses!
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February 14, 2011 9:07:18 PM

dimamu1550$ for one game. This is why I do not buy games directly. Especially that *rap that EA does with PC version of FIFA.


True, gaming titles are getting more expensive. Top new release titles can sell for $59! WTF?!? But if you wanna play you gotta pay but gaming publishers need to know their limits too! But I am willing to spend on quality games in order to fund for future gaming.
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February 14, 2011 9:17:45 PM

robochumpTrue, gaming titles are getting more expensive. Top new release titles can sell for $59! WTF?!? But if you wanna play you gotta pay but gaming publishers need to know their limits too! But I am willing to spend on quality games in order to fund for future gaming.

Yeah! Games developers got to learn from Blizzard I think. They provide quality games with great content, as well as amazing multiplayer and adding content too. On other hand CoD is now following path of EA sports which falling so badly. I don't know what's up with sales but I am not buying any of it since 2006.
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February 14, 2011 9:21:07 PM

Well Crysis was a mediocre game on an amazing engine, whereas the original Deus Ex was an amazing game on a less than pretty engine. Deus Ex came with my Audigy and once I was done playing it, I was astounded at the beautiful game that was included for free with my soundcard. I purchased Crysis and I was equally astounded at what a disappointing game that I actually spent money on (that I couldn't even run at max at the time - 4870x2). So I'm quite confused as to what Cevat Yerli is is always complaining about. If the gameplay is good, it doesn't matter what the game looks like. There is a reason people are pirating it. Make it playable at max settings and make the gameplay addicting and you'll get your sale.
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February 14, 2011 9:25:20 PM

It's not the case of Crysis, but many titles didn't come to my country, so the only way to play is Piracy, I didn't support it, I bought Crysis, Crysis Warhead, CoD 4, Portal and many others.
The DRM is more a problem than a solution, is boring can't make a Back-up copy and is not this that will stop the piracy.
Another question how this copy came in to internet, someone inside the companies let this hapened. Not a long time, in Brazil, a movie unfinished was put in internet as a marketing strategy.
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February 14, 2011 9:43:36 PM

Has DRM ever stopped piracy?
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February 14, 2011 9:43:45 PM

I guess this proves me wrong. I though Ubisoft's Assassins Creed was going too far requiring the user to login to their servers every time they want to play. I see now this is the only way they can reduce piracy. By having the user register every time and using checksum applications to scan for changes to their binaries, they can have a silver bullet to this problem.
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February 14, 2011 9:59:33 PM

I wouldn't call this a case of pirating unless the pirate worked on the inside and stealthily stole his way into their facility ninja commando style and uploaded the software to all torrent sites around the world in retaliation of their being no playable demo for the PC version of the game.

At least I'd like to think that's the way it all went down.
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February 14, 2011 10:18:17 PM

It was like an Anderson Silva frontkick to the face to PC gamers when they announced that there would be a demo for the upcoming and highly anticipated Crysis 2. The Demo would only available on the Hotbox 360. HOW DARE THEY!!!!!!
How dare they snub us for those can't keep up consoles after we paid all the bills the last few years. I'm in no way condoning this type of behavior and you know as soon as it's on the shelves I have to have it, all I'm saying is .....FEEL THE WRAITH BABY
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February 14, 2011 11:16:16 PM

shortbus25Really they need to give up on DRM if they make it, it will be hacked... They want to sell games stop charging 60+ for a game I'd buy a lot more if they were 20 to 25 dollars a game.

You are 100% right about both points! There's no reason to charge $60 for games these days! If they are worried about profit margins, it generally results in much better returns to sell more quantity at less price, than to sell less at more. And I will tell you all, I pay and will pay for real PC games, but ports, well those I download (steal, pirate, torrent, etc.) because experience has shown that ports are typically garbage and I was getting tired of being bent over and getting it up the dark cave by lazy rip-off publishers who don't even tune their console games to PC standards. You F with me, and I will F with you. Simple as that.
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February 15, 2011 12:02:22 AM

why are people so impatient!
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February 15, 2011 12:26:48 AM

Make all PC games require online authentication in order to work - even the single-player only games.


Problem solved.
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February 15, 2011 12:28:00 AM

Force people to use distribution clients like Steam to run games.


Problem solved.
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February 15, 2011 1:30:54 AM

Nothing wrong with paying a fair price for a quality product. March 22nd - I'll be there.

Thanks Crytek for making a great PC game!
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February 15, 2011 5:05:48 AM

notthekingUh, serial numbers didn't stop StarCraft II from being pirated 2.3 million times in 90 days. All the serial numbers really do is raise piracy concerns for the legit buyers. That's more or less the same problem with any DRM, in that it doesn't stop piracy, and only burdens the legitimate buyers. Pirated copies just have a hack to disable that check, just like games of old had hacks to disable the game checking for the CD.


True, however, if done right then it could eliminate. By done right take a look at Guild Wars. Yes it is an MMO, but the base concept can work for solo games.

Install game, log into account, add key to account, play. No login, no play.

Oh wait, steam works more or less like that...

There are no excuses for piracy, I have pirated games in the past (I now have the legal copies of all of them), but after having major issues and then after patching to try and find a crack for latest version (then finding there isn't one yet), just became more effort than it was worth. Now I buy my games (mostly on Steam now) and I don't have issues with patches and cracks. It is a choice each one has to make for him/her self.
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February 15, 2011 5:06:23 AM

someone FROM THE INSIDE is LEAKING it out!!!

IT IS THEIR FAULT!!!
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February 15, 2011 5:30:16 AM

Publicity Stunt?
At least it ensures the excitement for Crysis 2 wont wane due to a very late release
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February 15, 2011 6:13:47 AM

Crappy games get no money. Why would anyone ever expect you to pay for something blindly. Make a demo (a real demo, not that one level for 15 minutes crap) and most pirating will end.

Crysis had customization like an RPG, graphics from God himself, and the linear plot line of the earlier Mario titles. Get with it Crytek, game play is everything. If you want money try a steam approach, tried TF2 with all its quirks free for a weekend and guess what's registered to my Steam account now?
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February 15, 2011 7:01:59 AM

Why do you all seem to think that downloading Crysis 2 via bittorrent, and purchasing it in a month, are mutually exclusive?

Get a clue.

If I enjoy playing the pirated version, I'll buy the retail version. I think most people are of the same mind as me.

How is this possibly a bad thing for CryTek? They should be more confident in their product.
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February 15, 2011 7:25:06 AM

... and the hype PR is almost not possible...
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February 15, 2011 7:27:33 AM

C2 was apparently leaked by an internal employee, so they cant blame the PC community.

The people who download this torrent would have pirated the game anyway, so this will not hurt sales imo.

I pre-ordered the game ages ago, and will not be canceling the order just because I can get an unfinished product for free.
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February 15, 2011 9:14:10 AM

This is why every game developer needs to switch to digital distribution (AKA Steam). Cut out the middle man (retailers) and the prices will come down to reasonable levels. Ever since Steam started doing widespread distributions I've had no reasons to ever pirate games. Multiplayer games have to be purchased if you want to play multiplayer, and singleplayer games become dirt cheap after 4-6 months.
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