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Anonymous
March 6, 2005 3:18:25 PM

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When I try to send a fax I get a message that the phone is busy. Does this
mean that I need to disconnect from SBC DSL in order to send a fax? I can't
figure out how to do so without turning off my computer. Any help will be
greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Anonymous
March 6, 2005 5:02:33 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

If your broadband service is DSL over your telephone line, sending a fax can
be done two
ways:

1. You obtain a DSL line filter suitable for connecting a standard voice
telephone to the DSL line, then connect an analog fax modem to the line
through the line filter. Your DSL provider has these filters, so does your
local Radio Shack store:

http://www.radioshack.com/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=C...(keyword)

2. You hire an Internet E-faxing service:

http://www.slipstick.com/addins/services/fax.htm#intern...
Personal Fax Services - Internet Fax
http://www.savetz.com/fax/
FAQ: How can I send a fax from the Internet?

Hal
--
Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com
Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-S/U -- WA7BGX
http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com

"Lolobeansmama" <Lolobeansmama@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FFFC7B32-01EB-498D-9C48-36509D3F24A7@microsoft.com...
> When I try to send a fax I get a message that the phone is busy. Does
> this
> mean that I need to disconnect from SBC DSL in order to send a fax? I
> can't
> figure out how to do so without turning off my computer. Any help will be
> greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Anonymous
March 6, 2005 5:02:34 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

Thanks for your help.

"Hal Hostetler [MVP-S/U]" wrote:

> If your broadband service is DSL over your telephone line, sending a fax can
> be done two
> ways:
>
> 1. You obtain a DSL line filter suitable for connecting a standard voice
> telephone to the DSL line, then connect an analog fax modem to the line
> through the line filter. Your DSL provider has these filters, so does your
> local Radio Shack store:
>
> http://www.radioshack.com/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=C...(keyword)
>
> 2. You hire an Internet E-faxing service:
>
> http://www.slipstick.com/addins/services/fax.htm#intern...
> Personal Fax Services - Internet Fax
> http://www.savetz.com/fax/
> FAQ: How can I send a fax from the Internet?
>
> Hal
> --
> Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com
> Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-S/U -- WA7BGX
> http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
> KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
> Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
>
> "Lolobeansmama" <Lolobeansmama@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FFFC7B32-01EB-498D-9C48-36509D3F24A7@microsoft.com...
> > When I try to send a fax I get a message that the phone is busy. Does
> > this
> > mean that I need to disconnect from SBC DSL in order to send a fax? I
> > can't
> > figure out how to do so without turning off my computer. Any help will be
> > greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
>
>
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Anonymous
March 7, 2005 12:23:09 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

Bellsouth provide 4 phone line filters each with a DSL and phone line so I
fax out of my PC and also a stand alone fax everyday so you can also after a
little reading and configuring.
--
Bellsoutth offered a free Westell DSL Modem and CompUSA had a Netgear
Wireless Router for $10 after Rebate then you connect the 3 Ethernet LAN
Cable and away you go - connectiing.

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/6323
Instructions for setting up a BellSouth configured Westell 2100/2200/6100
(Models A90-210030-04, B90-220030-04, B90-610030-06 and C90-610030-06,
respectively)

Regards, Gary 'Doc' Adams in Louisiana

CTLouisiana @ msn comREMOVE
http://computerteachers.digital-mall-online.com/
~ Read to Learn - Write to Think ~

"Lolobeansmama" <Lolobeansmama@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FFFC7B32-01EB-498D-9C48-36509D3F24A7@microsoft.com...
> When I try to send a fax I get a message that the phone is busy. Does
this
> mean that I need to disconnect from SBC DSL in order to send a fax? I
can't
> figure out how to do so without turning off my computer. Any help will be
> greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Anonymous
June 2, 2005 4:55:33 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

I have read numerous posts regarding my problem which is I cannot send a fax
because of being on DSL. I have the following:

Phone connected to dsl filter which connects to splitter which connects to
wall phone jack. Computer connects to DSL modem which connects to splitter
which connects to wall phone jack.

It has been suggested to me (I am not very knowledgeable regarding
computers) to "plug phone into the other jack in the back of the computer
that has a picture of a phone next to it then the line from the wall could go
into the line jack on the back of the computer."

They failed to mention what would happen, if anything, with the filter, DSL
modem, etc connections.

I notice your suggestion in this post about the filter - would that be the
same filter I already have with the DSL? And, do you agree with the above
suggested re-routing of the cables, etc?

Thanks for your patience and help with this computer illiterate female (who
is otherwise intelligent and beautiful).

"Hal Hostetler [MVP-S/U]" wrote:

> If your broadband service is DSL over your telephone line, sending a fax can
> be done two
> ways:
>
> 1. You obtain a DSL line filter suitable for connecting a standard voice
> telephone to the DSL line, then connect an analog fax modem to the line
> through the line filter. Your DSL provider has these filters, so does your
> local Radio Shack store:
>
> http://www.radioshack.com/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=C...(keyword)
>
> 2. You hire an Internet E-faxing service:
>
> http://www.slipstick.com/addins/services/fax.htm#intern...
> Personal Fax Services - Internet Fax
> http://www.savetz.com/fax/
> FAQ: How can I send a fax from the Internet?
>
> Hal
> --
> Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com
> Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-S/U -- WA7BGX
> http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
> KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
> Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
>
> "Lolobeansmama" <Lolobeansmama@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FFFC7B32-01EB-498D-9C48-36509D3F24A7@microsoft.com...
> > When I try to send a fax I get a message that the phone is busy. Does
> > this
> > mean that I need to disconnect from SBC DSL in order to send a fax? I
> > can't
> > figure out how to do so without turning off my computer. Any help will be
> > greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
>
>
Anonymous
June 2, 2005 7:07:10 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

Unlike most dial-up modems, a DSL modem is not capable
of connecting to fax machines, so you cannot send or receive faxes
directly.
In order to send and receives faxes, you'll need a conventional fax modem
with a live telephone line attached. You cannot use broadband unless you
use a web-base fax service, such as eFax:
http://www2.efax.com/en/efax/twa/page/homePage?rqcp=1

Or consider purchasing a regular fax machine and connect it to your phone
line.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/window...

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"BARB" wrote:

| I have read numerous posts regarding my problem which is I cannot send a fax
| because of being on DSL. I have the following:
|
| Phone connected to dsl filter which connects to splitter which connects to
| wall phone jack. Computer connects to DSL modem which connects to splitter
| which connects to wall phone jack.
|
| It has been suggested to me (I am not very knowledgeable regarding
| computers) to "plug phone into the other jack in the back of the computer
| that has a picture of a phone next to it then the line from the wall could go
| into the line jack on the back of the computer."
|
| They failed to mention what would happen, if anything, with the filter, DSL
| modem, etc connections.
|
| I notice your suggestion in this post about the filter - would that be the
| same filter I already have with the DSL? And, do you agree with the above
| suggested re-routing of the cables, etc?
|
| Thanks for your patience and help with this computer illiterate female (who
| is otherwise intelligent and beautiful).
|
| "Hal Hostetler [MVP-S/U]" wrote:
|
| > If your broadband service is DSL over your telephone line, sending a fax can
| > be done two
| > ways:
| >
| > 1. You obtain a DSL line filter suitable for connecting a standard voice
| > telephone to the DSL line, then connect an analog fax modem to the line
| > through the line filter. Your DSL provider has these filters, so does your
| > local Radio Shack store:
| >
| >
http://www.radioshack.com/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=C...(keyword)
| >
| > 2. You hire an Internet E-faxing service:
| >
| > http://www.slipstick.com/addins/services/fax.htm#intern...
| > Personal Fax Services - Internet Fax
| > http://www.savetz.com/fax/
| > FAQ: How can I send a fax from the Internet?
| >
| > Hal
| > --
| > Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com
| > Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-S/U -- WA7BGX
| > http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
| > KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
| > Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
| >
| > "Lolobeansmama" <Lolobeansmama@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:FFFC7B32-01EB-498D-9C48-36509D3F24A7@microsoft.com...
| > > When I try to send a fax I get a message that the phone is busy. Does
| > > this
| > > mean that I need to disconnect from SBC DSL in order to send a fax? I
| > > can't
| > > figure out how to do so without turning off my computer. Any help will be
| > > greatly appreciated. Thanks.
| >
| >
| >
Anonymous
June 2, 2005 7:07:11 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

Thank you for your response, however as I have stated I am not a very good
computer person and will need direct and specific answers to my questions
which I will repeat here:

1) Is the filter MVP Hal Hostetler mentioned in his reply below the same as
the filter I already have with my DSL service that is already plugged in with
my phone line?
2) Is the re-routing of the cable and phone line hook-ups, suggested to me
as outlined below, a solution to the problem? If so, what about the filter,
DSL modem box, etc?
3) New question: You say I will need a conventional fax modem with a live
telephone line attached. Isn't there such a fax modem already installed in
my system since the fax program is there? And the live telephone line I have
since I have phone service. Perhaps the re-routing of the cables/phone lines
as mentioned is a possibility. If so, I need step by step instructions to do
that.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> Unlike most dial-up modems, a DSL modem is not capable
> of connecting to fax machines, so you cannot send or receive faxes
> directly.
> In order to send and receives faxes, you'll need a conventional fax modem
> with a live telephone line attached. You cannot use broadband unless you
> use a web-base fax service, such as eFax:
> http://www2.efax.com/en/efax/twa/page/homePage?rqcp=1
>
> Or consider purchasing a regular fax machine and connect it to your phone
> line.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
> Microsoft Newsgroups
>
> Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/window...
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "BARB" wrote:
>
> | I have read numerous posts regarding my problem which is I cannot send a fax
> | because of being on DSL. I have the following:
> |
> | Phone connected to dsl filter which connects to splitter which connects to
> | wall phone jack. Computer connects to DSL modem which connects to splitter
> | which connects to wall phone jack.
> |
> | It has been suggested to me (I am not very knowledgeable regarding
> | computers) to "plug phone into the other jack in the back of the computer
> | that has a picture of a phone next to it then the line from the wall could go
> | into the line jack on the back of the computer."
> |
> | They failed to mention what would happen, if anything, with the filter, DSL
> | modem, etc connections.
> |
> | I notice your suggestion in this post about the filter - would that be the
> | same filter I already have with the DSL? And, do you agree with the above
> | suggested re-routing of the cables, etc?
> |
> | Thanks for your patience and help with this computer illiterate female (who
> | is otherwise intelligent and beautiful).
> |
> | "Hal Hostetler [MVP-S/U]" wrote:
> |
> | > If your broadband service is DSL over your telephone line, sending a fax can
> | > be done two
> | > ways:
> | >
> | > 1. You obtain a DSL line filter suitable for connecting a standard voice
> | > telephone to the DSL line, then connect an analog fax modem to the line
> | > through the line filter. Your DSL provider has these filters, so does your
> | > local Radio Shack store:
> | >
> | >
> http://www.radioshack.com/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=C...(keyword)
> | >
> | > 2. You hire an Internet E-faxing service:
> | >
> | > http://www.slipstick.com/addins/services/fax.htm#intern...
> | > Personal Fax Services - Internet Fax
> | > http://www.savetz.com/fax/
> | > FAQ: How can I send a fax from the Internet?
> | >
> | > Hal
> | > --
> | > Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com
> | > Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-S/U -- WA7BGX
> | > http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
> | > KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
> | > Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
> | >
> | > "Lolobeansmama" <Lolobeansmama@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:FFFC7B32-01EB-498D-9C48-36509D3F24A7@microsoft.com...
> | > > When I try to send a fax I get a message that the phone is busy. Does
> | > > this
> | > > mean that I need to disconnect from SBC DSL in order to send a fax? I
> | > > can't
> | > > figure out how to do so without turning off my computer. Any help will be
> | > > greatly appreciated. Thanks.
> | >
> | >
> | >
>
>
Anonymous
June 3, 2005 1:40:01 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

Thank you Lem for your reply. I didn't know that there was a problem with
too long of a post response. Even if it was too long, it was very helpful to
me.

BUT, now my computer is working very, very, very slow on the internet and I
get kicked off, too. Your assistance with this resulting problem will be
appreciated.

"Lem" wrote:

> Yes, the filter MVP Hal Hostetler mentioned in his reply below is the same as the filter you already have with my DSL service. And yes, the
> re-routing you describe should solve your problem -- if you have a fax modem.
>
> Here's the situation. You have one telephone line (the wall jack). You can use this line for several purposes: (1) making plain old
> telephone calls; (2) sending and receiving faxes; (3) connecting your computer to the Internet via "dial-up service;" and (4) connecting your
> computer to the Internet via DSL. Although there are ways to do more than one of these things at the same time, let's take them one at a time
> to start.
>
> The first question really is your question (3) -- do you have a fax modem? The simplest way to determine this is to look at the documentation
> that came with your computer. If you don't have the paper work, there are ways to determine if you have a fax modem, but let's assume that you
> do. Based on your first post, "When I try to send a fax I get a message that the phone is busy," it sounds like you do.
>
> Take a look at the back of your computer. Are there any phone jacks there (they will look like your wall jack)? You may have one or two jacks
> (or none). See http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/7310Series/1008379rvr13... for an example of what you're looking for. Note that you may
> have an "Ethernet" or network jack (right now, that may be connected to your DSL modem). An Ethernet jack looks like a phone jack but it's
> slightly wider. Use the plug that now plugs into the wall jack to compare -- the plug from the wall jack will fit snugly into a phone jack,
> but it's smaller than an Ethernet jack.
>
> If you don't have any phone jacks, you don't have a modem, and you'll either have to buy a fax modem or a stand alone fax machine before you
> can send faxes. If you have one or two jacks, you have a modem, and we're assuming that it's a fax modem (not all modems are fax modems). If
> you have one jack, things are simple. If you have two, you need to figure out which is which. The jacks are usually labelled, either with
> pictures or (as in the example above) words. You want the jack that says "line" or "telco" or has a picture that looks like a phone jack. You
> do NOT want (yet) the jack that says "phone" or has a picture of a telephone.
>
> Now, disconnect the wire that goes from the splitter to the wall jack (this will disconnect your DSL Internet connection, but ignore that for
> now). Connect the end of the wire that used to go into the splitter to the "line" or "telco" phone jack on the back of your computer. (If
> there's only one phone jack, that's the one you use). Your computer modem is now connected to the phone company. If you want to double check,
> and assuming that your computer has two phone jacks, disconnect the line that goes from your phone to the DSL filter, and connect it to the
> second jack on the back of your computer (the one that says "phone" or has a picture of a phone). Pick up the receiver and you should hear a
> dial tone. If not, you have a problem with the wall jack, the wires, or the modem, and this post is long enough already to attempt to deal
> with that.
>
> Hang up the phone, and send a test fax. If it works, great. If not, the problem is with your fax setup (or perhaps you don't have a fax modem
> after all).
>
> Assuming that you were able to send the test fax, let's put things back together.
>
> Connect the splitter to the wall jack. Leaving the phone connected to the "phone" jack on your computer, get another wire, with a plug on each
> end. Plug one end into the "line" or "telco" jack on your computer and the other end into the DSL filter (where the phone used to be
> connected).
>
> Your connections should look like this:
>
> Computer "line" jack--------------DSL Filter------------------Splitter-----------Wall
> |
> Computer "phone" jack------Telephone |
> |
> Computer Ethernet or USB jack ------DSL modem---------------|
>
> Let us know how it goes.
>
> BARB wrote:
>
> > Thank you for your response, however as I have stated I am not a very good
> > computer person and will need direct and specific answers to my questions
> > which I will repeat here:
> >
> > 1) Is the filter MVP Hal Hostetler mentioned in his reply below the same as
> > the filter I already have with my DSL service that is already plugged in with
> > my phone line?
> > 2) Is the re-routing of the cable and phone line hook-ups, suggested to me
> > as outlined below, a solution to the problem? If so, what about the filter,
> > DSL modem box, etc?
> > 3) New question: You say I will need a conventional fax modem with a live
> > telephone line attached. Isn't there such a fax modem already installed in
> > my system since the fax program is there? And the live telephone line I have
> > since I have phone service. Perhaps the re-routing of the cables/phone lines
> > as mentioned is a possibility. If so, I need step by step instructions to do
> > that.
> >
> > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> > > Unlike most dial-up modems, a DSL modem is not capable
> > > of connecting to fax machines, so you cannot send or receive faxes
> > > directly.
> > > In order to send and receives faxes, you'll need a conventional fax modem
> > > with a live telephone line attached. You cannot use broadband unless you
> > > use a web-base fax service, such as eFax:
> > > http://www2.efax.com/en/efax/twa/page/homePage?rqcp=1
> > >
> > > Or consider purchasing a regular fax machine and connect it to your phone
> > > line.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carey Frisch
> > > Microsoft MVP
> > > Windows XP - Shell/User
> > > Microsoft Newsgroups
> > >
> > > Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/window...
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > "BARB" wrote:
> > >
> > > | I have read numerous posts regarding my problem which is I cannot send a fax
> > > | because of being on DSL. I have the following:
> > > |
> > > | Phone connected to dsl filter which connects to splitter which connects to
> > > | wall phone jack. Computer connects to DSL modem which connects to splitter
> > > | which connects to wall phone jack.
> > > |
> > > | It has been suggested to me (I am not very knowledgeable regarding
> > > | computers) to "plug phone into the other jack in the back of the computer
> > > | that has a picture of a phone next to it then the line from the wall could go
> > > | into the line jack on the back of the computer."
> > > |
> > > | They failed to mention what would happen, if anything, with the filter, DSL
> > > | modem, etc connections.
> > > |
> > > | I notice your suggestion in this post about the filter - would that be the
> > > | same filter I already have with the DSL? And, do you agree with the above
> > > | suggested re-routing of the cables, etc?
> > > |
> > > | Thanks for your patience and help with this computer illiterate female (who
> > > | is otherwise intelligent and beautiful).
> > > |
> > > | "Hal Hostetler [MVP-S/U]" wrote:
> > > |
> > > | > If your broadband service is DSL over your telephone line, sending a fax can
> > > | > be done two
> > > | > ways:
> > > | >
> > > | > 1. You obtain a DSL line filter suitable for connecting a standard voice
> > > | > telephone to the DSL line, then connect an analog fax modem to the line
> > > | > through the line filter. Your DSL provider has these filters, so does your
> > > | > local Radio Shack store:
> > > | >
> > > | >
> > > http://www.radioshack.com/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=C...(keyword)
> > > | >
> > > | > 2. You hire an Internet E-faxing service:
> > > | >
> > > | > http://www.slipstick.com/addins/services/fax.htm#intern...
> > > | > Personal Fax Services - Internet Fax
> > > | > http://www.savetz.com/fax/
> > > | > FAQ: How can I send a fax from the Internet?
> > > | >
> > > | > Hal
> > > | > --
> > > | > Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com
> > > | > Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-S/U -- WA7BGX
> > > | > http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
> > > | > KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
> > > | > Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
> > > | >
> > > | > "Lolobeansmama" <Lolobeansmama@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > | > news:FFFC7B32-01EB-498D-9C48-36509D3F24A7@microsoft.com...
> > > | > > When I try to send a fax I get a message that the phone is busy. Does
> > > | > > this
> > > | > > mean that I need to disconnect from SBC DSL in order to send a fax? I
> > > | > > can't
> > > | > > figure out how to do so without turning off my computer. Any help will be
> > > | > > greatly appreciated. Thanks.
> > > | >
> > > | >
> > > | >
> > >
> > >
>
!