eq2 Are there enough zones for groupers?

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> It occurs to me that the dungeons are essentially deserted whereas
> TS might have several instances at a time, yet the common complaint
> is "you can't get a group any more". The dungeons are full of ++ and
> group mobs, and you can't easily run if it goes badly, so you would
> think people would group there. No.

> Why don't groups travel to the dungeons? Is it because it is so easy
> to get to the TS by griffon? Because there are no maps (for no
> reason that has ever been explained by SOE)? Because they
> are too tough? Or the rewards are insufficient?

> The crypt of decay has the same level range as TS but is vacant.
> Why? One reason I found was that when I died I was shoved out
> of the zone and the entrance that presented itself was the harder one
> (not good to zone into a fight with a group of white mobs when you
> are trying to retrieve your shard!) It was then clumsy to find the other
> entrance. I would have thought I'd revive within a safe area in CoD.

> Can anyone think of any other reasons why the dungeons are so
> neglected, especially by the groups that claim there are no places
> designed for them?

A little bit from "a" and a little bit from "b".

To start with there is a little bit of a catch 22 situation. Because
few people go there its hard to find a group and because it hard to
find a group few people go there! Questions is how did it get like
that?

To start with there is a lot of ignorance about these zones, the game
pushes you from the Qeynos areas to Antonica to TS and then to Zek but
it never seems to direct you into the various dungeons. And when you do
get there they aren't mine or many other peoples favourite place to
play: there's no map (there is a legal UI mod though) and the places
are a total maze; there are too many wandering high level agro mobs
(there is nothing more annoying then going around a blind corner and
bumping to a mob you have to chance against); you can't easily run
when it all goes wrong and the rewards aren't worth all the hassle.

And then there's the bugs. I'm not the only person who's PC
totally dies in Vermin Syne and crashes every time I zone out of
Stormhold. And then there's my favourite, the invisible mob bug. That
gets old very very fast. SOE don't seem to have acknowledges these
problems at all.

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A7thson wrote:
>>And then there's the bugs. I'm not the only person who's PC
>>totally dies in Vermin Syne and crashes every time I zone out of
>>Stormhold. And then there's my favourite, the invisible mob bug. That
>>gets old very very fast. SOE don't seem to have acknowledges these
>>problems at all.
>>
>
> You forgot the wonderful you cant see your target bug.
>
>
yes, it's funny how they seem to have no problem seeing you, got nuked to death in CoD that way.

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BombayMix. And when you do
get there they aren't mine or many other peoples favourite place to
play: there's no map (there is a legal UI mod though) and the places
are a total maze; [/QUOTE wrote:
>
>
> Where can I find this legal map mod at??

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Shadow wrote:
> Why don't groups travel to the dungeons? Is it because it is so easy to get to
> the TS by griffon? Because there are no maps (for no reason that has ever been
> explained by SOE)? Because they are too tough? Or the rewards are insufficient?

I think the rewards are definately sufficient. RoV and RE have amazing
drops and XP. I think the main problem with getting a group in those
dungeons is they are not easy. If you get in a bad group in RE, you
can easily wipe multiple times, especially on shard recoveries - same
with RoV, but to a lesser extent. Because the dungeons are hard, a lot
of people are afraid of pick-up groups in them (I was in one last
weekend - it was an accident waiting to happen, both the tank and the
necro were doing their best to wipe us).

If you do get in a group, the XP is crazy and the drops equally so.
The Tempered Clay (34^^^ golem) drops T4 stuff, including rares - I
wouldn't be surprised if all named did in RoV. The legs and chest
quest in RE are great for that level range. Even the normal mobs drop
great vendor loot and high T3 spells. It isn't unheard of to burn
through levels while you are there, because the mobs are closely packed
and seemingly endless.

Another reason they are left alone is because it is so easy to solo
now. You don't need a group if you don't want one. A lot of people
don't like pick-up groups, and would rather solo than deal with them.
You can't solo very much in the dungeons, so people stay in the outdoor
zones.

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BombayMix wrote:
> > Where can I find this legal map mod at??
>
> http://tinyurl.com/a9tnd


Awsome! Thanks!

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