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200Mhz FSB likely for a AXP?

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June 12, 2002 12:20:46 AM

I haven't had a whole lot of luck overclocking my AXIA Athlon 1Ghz, mostly through upping the FSB to 150, and pumping the muliplier to 10, yielding 1500 with MC-462.

New system coming in the mail in two days, based on a Soyo SY-KT333 and an AXP 1800+. I've read enough reviews, that I can reliably say most Athlons can push for 166Mhz FSB with a lower multiplier. Hell, even Hardocp did 183Mhz FSB. My question, is it likely, or even possible to hit 200Mhz FSB reliably? Probably not on a Soyo board, but using the likely chipsets, the Kt266a, or kt333. I have my doubts, but i'm going to push the thing until it gets unstable...Oc'ing using AS3 and a global win CKII-38 HSF if that works, otherwise, i'll transfer my older MC-462 I used on the Athlon T-bird.

I guess the -ideal- Athlon system i'm shooting for is an AXP 1600Mhz, 200Mhz FSB and a multiplier of 8. I'm keeping my thumbs crossed. Any comments?

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June 12, 2002 7:49:55 AM

One comment. You better let me know if that [-peep-] works.

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June 12, 2002 6:30:19 PM

200MHz won't happen reliably for a while. I've seen 200MHz, but the system was stripped down, supercooled, not even close to stable, etc.

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June 13, 2002 10:01:11 PM

Yes, but a reviewer hitting that with hand-picked parts and it being a fairly common overclock are pretty far apart.

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June 14, 2002 5:40:33 AM

That is also not a Soyo Mobo, Soyo's have issues, so don't expect much. I have a Ultra Platinum, and a Plus, and I can't get over 155MHz FSB, with PC3000 CL2 memory. 153-155 is common/max for these boards frpm what I've seen/read, and experienced myself. I use wirh AXP 2000+ and 2100+

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June 14, 2002 11:04:09 AM

"I haven't had a whole lot of luck overclocking my AXIA Athlon 1Ghz, mostly through upping the FSB to 150, and pumping the muliplier to 10, yielding 1500 with MC-462."

Yes, not really lucky, 50% OVERCLOCK is not so MUCH. Yeah, I won $50000 yestarday in Las Vegas starting with $1000, not so lucky either.

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June 15, 2002 12:48:59 AM

I've seen 1.0Ghz AXIA T-birds go as high as 2.0Ghz with unlocked L1 bridges and FSB increases, that is of course, water cooling. 1.5Ghz for my t-bird stable with MC-462 cooler, relatively stable with my less loud Global Win CAK-II 38. The very highest T-bird i've seen was an AXIA 1.4Ghz at 2.9Ghz using quad water peltier and case mod. Imagine a Palamino going 2.9Ghz...Imagine a K-8 Sledgehammer going 2.9Ghz

...*shrugs* just saying, I think it could've gone further than 1.5Ghz

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June 15, 2002 4:12:36 AM

i think you underestimate the soyo boards, i thought they were crap for a long time, they were but they have made their way into the performance area pretty well. it took me a long time to trust the reviews on the soyo dragon+ but i finaly decided to get one.

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June 15, 2002 11:26:05 PM

with kt333 its not the cooling but the chipset that sets the limit. With a kt333 you´ll be lucky if u get a fsb of 195 with any cooling.

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June 16, 2002 11:16:24 PM

Actually, the quality of the chipset limits the FSB, not the cooling in general, unless it is using crappy passive or even worse, no cooling. The Soyo SY-KT333 has an active heatsink on the northbridge, so heat is not the problem. Ha! 195FSB, you're lucky to get that on ANY chipset...Via/Ali/Sis/AMD/Intel...and so on. BTW, if you look on the internet, 200Mhz FSB has been achieved with a KT333 and DDR2 PC-200, with water cooling and under very tight restrictive settings, very high CL3 latency, and generally unstable performance. I'm going first for 166FSB, then 183, as done in Hardocp with their Abit At7 mobo...200 would be a dream.

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June 18, 2002 1:27:09 AM

Just curious. When you guys are trying these insane overclocks are you running anything other than BIOS code? Like Windows or a game for example? Has anybody posted any 3DMark scores for one of these 200MHz FSB, preferably DDR systems?

Assuming perfect RAM, you say the trick is northbridge thermal dissipation performance?

Sounds pretty Frickin cool. Ifn it be workn.

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June 18, 2002 1:41:23 AM

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Assuming perfect RAM, you say the trick is northbridge thermal dissipation performance?


i'm not saying it's the northbridge thermal dissipation, it's a mixture of factors, which includes the northbridge heat levels

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Just curious. When you guys are trying these insane overclocks are you running anything other than BIOS code? Like Windows or a game for example? Has anybody posted any 3DMark scores for one of these 200MHz FSB, preferably DDR systems?


As soon as i'm done overclocking, i'll post for my system. My "old" Athlon T-bird AXIA did 1500Mhz at 150 x 10. My new AXP 1800+ is well, i'm going for 1666Mhz, 166 x 10. Haven't unlocked it yet, but it is running stably at 1725Mhz, 150 x 11.5. Once I unlock it, i'll try for 166FSB. If i'm really lucky *shrugs*, which I somewhat doubt, i'll shoot for 183Mhz FSB, for a possible 1647Mhz, 183 x 9. Hardocp.com managed 183FSB on an Abit At7 motherboard. 200FSB is sort of a dream speed...imagine that with some DDR-II 400Mhz.
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June 18, 2002 8:09:29 PM

"imagine that with some DDR-II 400Mhz."

I'm trying really really hard to right now. In my dream it's my system which is doing it.
June 18, 2002 11:26:28 PM

Well, we have to wait till it becomes part of the mainstream market. DDR-II isn't out yet, but it probably will later this summer with the KT400 chipset as well

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June 19, 2002 1:23:58 AM

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Yes, but a reviewer hitting that with hand-picked parts and it being a fairly common overclock are pretty far apart.


My comments on this are as follows.


If you get the proper divider, and if your ram can handle it, the cpu wont be an issue.



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June 19, 2002 1:55:32 AM

Don't most newer motherboards support 1/5 and 1/6 AGP and PCI dividers now a days?

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