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September 14, 2012 2:26:28 PM

i am wondering if these components can run new games like Battlefield 3 and crysis 3 at ultra resolution and i want your opinion in these components.
•mother board :Gigabyte GA-H77-D3H Socket 1155. not H77M
•processor :intel core i5 3470 3.2GHz 6MB.
•VGA :Gigabyte GeForce GTX 550 Ti windforce2x.
•HD :Seagate Barracuda ST3750525AS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s.
•power supply :500w
•Ram :Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 1.65v.
•Case :Antec Dark Fleet Ten Mid Tower Desktop Case (DF-10).

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September 14, 2012 2:30:49 PM

You'd need a better graphics card than that to run Battlefield 3 at ultra!

What Power Supply?
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September 14, 2012 2:38:07 PM

There is no Ultra resolution.But there are ultra settings.
And this card is not nearly powerfull enough to play those games at their ultra setting.
If you wan't to play those games at their best you need a high-end graphics card like this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And if you wan't the best bang for your buck get one of those cards instead.
Note that the HD 7870 is 5-10% faster overall.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
September 14, 2012 2:48:29 PM

mi1ez said:
You'd need a better graphics card than that to run Battlefield 3 at ultra!

What Power Supply?

well i dont have enough money for a better GPU :/ 
i have Gamma 500Watt power supply working now with Dual core processor and xfx 9600 1.5 gb far cry 2 edition gpu.
September 14, 2012 2:50:11 PM

Kamen_BG said:
There is no Ultra resolution.But there are ultra settings.
And this card is not nearly powerfull enough to play those games at their ultra setting.
If you wan't to play those games at their best you need a high-end graphics card like this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And if you wan't the best bang for your buck get one of those cards instead.
Note that the HD 7870 is 5-10% faster overall.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and what about the motherboard and the cpu i really dont know if they are nice for thier price or no ?
September 14, 2012 3:30:22 PM

your gpu would let you to high settings with good resolution.. so your pc is fine.
September 14, 2012 3:55:57 PM

Drop down to i3 instead of i5. Also, drop to h61/b75 chipset depending on which i3 you're going to buy. Then, buy GTX 660 from money gained.
September 14, 2012 4:42:06 PM

Sunius said:
Drop down to i3 instead of i5. Also, drop to h61/b75 chipset depending on which i3 you're going to buy. Then, buy GTX 660 from money gained.

but isnt a really bad drop from a i5 3470 to something like i3 2120 ?
September 14, 2012 4:47:34 PM

In gaming performance, you will not really notice much drop. However, with money gained from that decrease, you can get much better graphics card, which will warrant much better gaming experience.

Also, what is your total budget and country of origin?
September 14, 2012 5:07:11 PM

Sunius said:
In gaming performance, you will not really notice much drop. However, with money gained from that decrease, you can get much better graphics card, which will warrant much better gaming experience.

Also, what is your total budget and country of origin?

600$ and am from egypt . and U ? if i had money i would buy the gtx 560ti and also gigabyte but i dont have :/ 
September 14, 2012 5:07:55 PM

lol... are you sure... fair enough a lot of games only use 1-2 cores but newer high profile 1s use more and even if your dualcore has hyperthreading it wont be able to cope well with a game that uses 4 threads...

also your gonna run 1.65v ram on a cpu that likes 1.5v ram.

basics for gaming recommended specs for medium high settings at 1080p
intel or amd quad core @2.4ghz or better.
nvidia 560 ati 7770 or better
4 gigs of ddr3 1333 1.35-1.5v for intel or 1.65-1.80v for amd.
increasing the ram voltage increases stress on the intel mmu so the lower the ram voltage the better as this will help keep the heat of the cpu down as well as other components on the motherboard.
amd have much more legroom with there legacy mmu. it can go as high as 2.2v not that you want to take it there you understand.
September 14, 2012 5:13:56 PM

HEXiT said:
lol... are you sure... fair enough a lot of games only use 1-2 cores but newer high profile 1s use more and even if your dualcore has hyperthreading it wont be able to cope well with a game that uses 4 threads...

also your gonna run 1.65v ram on a cpu that likes 1.5v ram.

basics for gaming recommended specs for medium high settings at 1080p
intel or amd quad core @2.4ghz or better.
nvidia 560 ati 7770 or better
4 gigs of ddr3 1333 1.35-1.5v for intel or 1.65-1.80v for amd.
increasing the ram voltage increases stress on the intel mmu so the lower the ram voltage the better as this will help keep the heat of the cpu down as well as other components on the motherboard.
amd have much more legroom with there legacy mmu. it can go as high as 2.2v not that you want to take it there you understand.

recommend a components to me then with a budget 600$ that allows me to play most of the new games at high res. smoothly
September 14, 2012 8:42:36 PM

What are the prices for the components that you've chosen?

@Hexit: i3 will cope just fine with 4 threads. I'd go with i3 + HD 7850/GTX 660 any day over i5 + HD 7750.
September 14, 2012 10:48:29 PM

Sunius said:
What are the prices for the components that you've chosen?

@Hexit: i3 will cope just fine with 4 threads. I'd go with i3 + HD 7850/GTX 660 any day over i5 + HD 7750.

all the components i wrote it up will cost me about 600$
September 15, 2012 6:05:51 AM

Prices seem to be 15% higher than US. So in US your budget would be $530, as that's what those parts cost in US.

I'd suggest this combo:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($229.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($36.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $554.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-15 02:05 EDT-0400)
September 15, 2012 11:21:44 AM

Sunius said:
Prices seem to be 15% higher than US. So in US your budget would be $530, as that's what those parts cost in US.

I'd suggest this combo:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($229.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($36.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $554.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-15 02:05 EDT-0400)

first here in cairo we have a lil bit different prices a bit higher i mean for example this case costs here 54$ , and seconed how this i3 would support a gpu like gtx 660 !
September 15, 2012 12:53:35 PM

its all well and good saying get a high end gfx card and sacrifice the quad core. but in reality that pc is useless.. he cant even install his o.s.
to be brutally honest your asking to much for the money you want to spend...
if you want to max out bf3 on ultra your gonna need to add another 250 at least to your budget to get a fully working pc. bf3 multiplayer doesnt like dual cores even if there multithreaded... just look at the posts on here with guys that have i3 2120 or similar asking why they only get limited fps...
its because frostbite wants to use 4 threads on 4 cores. if you have 4 threads running on 2 cores you immediately reduce the perfomance by 1/3 as its less efficent than running them on 4 true cores...
your best bet if you want to reduce the price is to get an amd quad or an older 775 cpu. but then you will be throwing money away for short term gains. as there is no real upgrade options.

consider saving some money by getting a 560ti its a proven workhorse that will allow you to have 60+ fps on medium settings regardless of the map in bf3 and in i5 quad.

seriously if you want to get a dual you will load up bf3 and when you get to the b2k maps your system will crumple. regardless of the gfx power.
September 15, 2012 1:58:35 PM

HEXiT said:
its all well and good saying get a high end gfx card and sacrifice the quad core. but in reality that pc is useless.. he cant even install his o.s.
to be brutally honest your asking to much for the money you want to spend...
if you want to max out bf3 on ultra your gonna need to add another 250 at least to your budget to get a fully working pc. bf3 multiplayer doesnt like dual cores even if there multithreaded... just look at the posts on here with guys that have i3 2120 or similar asking why they only get limited fps...
its because frostbite wants to use 4 threads on 4 cores. if you have 4 threads running on 2 cores you immediately reduce the perfomance by 1/3 as its less efficent than running them on 4 true cores...
your best bet if you want to reduce the price is to get an amd quad or an older 775 cpu. but then you will be throwing money away for short term gains. as there is no real upgrade options.

consider saving some money by getting a 560ti its a proven workhorse that will allow you to have 60+ fps on medium settings regardless of the map in bf3 and in i5 quad.

seriously if you want to get a dual you will load up bf3 and when you get to the b2k maps your system will crumple. regardless of the gfx power.

i absolutely agree with u and i said if i got an i3 processor i will suffer with the games that wants a 4 cores and i will ran out of fps even if i have a GTX 560 ti , but hexit tell me ur opinion in this motherboard and the i5 3470 because maybe i will bought them now and maybe later i will buy the gpu. nad btw my max resolution on my screen is 1280x1024
September 15, 2012 2:32:18 PM

@1280/1024 you dont need anything with more than 1 gig of gfx ram. in fact you will likely cause a bottleneck if you get to much of a gfx card. if your cpu is overclockable then gat a z77 board or a p67 board to take advantage of the faster available cpu speed if needed, not that it will be for most things.
$200 for the cpu
£50-75 for the motherboard.
$30 ram
£75 hdd
$60 psu
$20 dvd burner
£50 case comes to 510
now thats with the max prices.
you will be able to shave off a few dollars hear and there and likely just have enough to get a 560ti
with $650
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hvPr with a little fiddling i got a 2500k and 560ti
the rosewill case comes with a 500w roswill psu that is reliable. and as the system will barley use 300w maxed it will allow further additional hdds.
i picked the 2500k for compatability reasons (all cheaper boards will need a bios upgrade to run ivy bridge)but if you decide to get any p67 or z77 motherboard you will need to check if they have updated the bios for an ivy bridge if you choose not to take the 2500k.

grand total of $640
September 15, 2012 2:57:25 PM

CPU Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor 199.98 @ Amazon
Motherboard ECS P67H2-A ATX LGA1155 $79.99 @ Newegg
Mem Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 $27.98@ Amazon
Storage Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $74.99 @ Newegg
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Video Card $199.99 -$30.00=$169.99 @ NCIX US $30.00 mail-in rebate there are alternatives for $10 more with 0 rebate.
Rosewill TU-155 II 500 ATX Mid Tower Case w/500W Power Supply $69.98 @ Newegg
Optical Drive LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer $17.99 @ Newegg
Total: $640.90
September 15, 2012 3:20:01 PM

HEXiT said:
CPU Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor 199.98 @ Amazon
Motherboard ECS P67H2-A ATX LGA1155 $79.99 @ Newegg
Mem Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 $27.98@ Amazon
Storage Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $74.99 @ Newegg
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Video Card $199.99 -$30.00=$169.99 @ NCIX US $30.00 mail-in rebate there are alternatives for $10 more with 0 rebate.
Rosewill TU-155 II 500 ATX Mid Tower Case w/500W Power Supply $69.98 @ Newegg
Optical Drive LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer $17.99 @ Newegg
Total: $640.90

we dont have this motherboard P67H2-A ATX !! and i have a 500Watt GaMMa power supply in my old pc and DvD-Rw , i will take both to use it in the new Pc , can u recommend another motherboard in the same price and it will be nice if it asus or gigabyte ;) 
September 15, 2012 3:53:32 PM

Pah. If your buying an i3, just go an buy a 965 BE. Better performance, overclockable and is £40 cheaper. Use that, coupled with the other £40 from your previous drop from the i5 to get yourself a 7850.

You'll also save dosh if you buy an AM3 mobo.
September 15, 2012 5:23:46 PM

thats a fair point...
as for the motherboard use the link i posted for pc parts picker and select 1 you can get.
as you have a psu/dvd you can spend the 90 a beter case like on this link
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hwuH
Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3(R2.0) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
and a coolermaster storm scout case... or you can opt for a cheaper case.
and get a better gfx card.

i do think the 660 ($229 for the cheapest 1)would be to much gfx card for your current screen but if you decided to get 1 and use your old case as well as the other bits and bobs. you can still stay under $650
then get a 1080p screen later you would have a relly high end gaming pc for around $800 all in with screen.
that surprises me quite a bit... i payed half as much again for my sig rig. and your new 1 will punish it across the board.
September 15, 2012 6:20:52 PM

HEXiT said:
thats a fair point...
as for the motherboard use the link i posted for pc parts picker and select 1 you can get.
as you have a psu/dvd you can spend the 90 a beter case like on this link
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hwuH
Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3(R2.0) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
and a coolermaster storm scout case... or you can opt for a cheaper case.
and get a better gfx card.

i do think the 660 ($229 for the cheapest 1)would be to much gfx card for your current screen but if you decided to get 1 and use your old case as well as the other bits and bobs. you can still stay under $650
then get a 1080p screen later you would have a relly high end gaming pc for around $800 all in with screen.
that surprises me quite a bit... i payed half as much again for my sig rig. and your new 1 will punish it across the board.

HEXiT before i give you the best answer in this topic what about saving money for the gpu and buy a Gigabyte GA-P75-D3 Socket 1155 or ASUS P8B75-V Socket 1155 ? is it nice , cuz this chipset is designed for small business not for gaming and this stuff ! ?
this one i was about to buy :/  http://egprices.com/image.php?id=13628
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