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Anonymous
July 4, 2005 6:49:01 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

I have a 3-computer home workgroup that connects to the internet via a
Netgear router. I have a Lexmark X74-75 printer/scanner/copier that is
connect to one of those computers, and that computer is connected directly to
the router. The other two computers print to the Lexmark via sharing. This
setup has been working without issue for about 2 years, but in the past week,
everything seems to have gone to hell, including the ability to print. This
description may be a little long, but I have to be everything I am about to
relate is somehow connected. I will do my best to also advise what I have
installed, removed, etc., during that period.

First, to printing from the machine I am writing this on, a Dell D600
laptop. While I can see the printer over the network, and can even explore
the properties, when I try to print now, it comes back with an error message
dependent on what app I am trying to print from. Office apps tell me the
printer is not available. Notepad tells me there is an invalid handle.
Acrobat says some other error occurred, etc. I have uninstalled and
reinstalled the driver about 1000 times, and have done so by letting the
network printer install it (which it does just fine) and by installing via
the Lexmark CD that came with the printer. I have removed everything on my
system related to Lexmark (which is one helluva chore!), including (finally)
getting rid of the LexBce server that wasn't allowing me to use the print
spooler any more or install printers. I removed everything -- every printer
driver, every printer and faux printer (eFax, PDF writer, etc) using
Microsoft's KB as guidance. I then cleaned up the registry using a
combination of Ace Utilities, RegSeeker and RegScrubXP, and started all over.
I can add the printer using the Add Printer function fine, but still have the
same errors and cannot print.

There are other goings-on that might help resolve this for me and others,
all new. I installed Microsoft Antispyware Beta. For the past few years, I
have run Ad-Aware (free version), PestPatrol. In that past few months, I
replaced PestPatrol (which always worked fabulously for me) with Spybot, as
PP was getting long in tooth and I did not want to shell out to get an
updated version, and had been reading a lot of bad stuff about it. That
seemed to work fine as well. But since installed MAB, I have had other
weirdness going on with my system. I uninstalled Spybot to use it, but have
since uninstalled MAB and gone back to Spybot in case MAB had somehow
contributed to this printing problem.

Next, I decided to upgrade to Ad-Aware Plus. In my view, big mistake. I have
not only had performance issues since installing it (especially with
Ad-Watch). I recently wrote to Lavasoft after reading Microsoft's basic
indictment of the product when sending an error report after a Not Responding
problem, but have heard nothing back except to reinstall it.

There's more -- and this might be tell-tale, although I don't know what to
do about it. I was given a gift from Scansoft of Dragon Naturally Speaking 7
about a year ago (I am a global IT strategy director for a large engineering
services company) for trying out its PDF conversion program (which is quite
good, by the way), but had never installed it until a few weeks ago (note how
all this timing seems to point back to a few weeks ago). Thinking this might
be a part of the problems I've been having (and I have one more to relate
yet), I tried to uninstall it. IMPOSSIBLE, and I know what I'm doing. The
Add/Remove always asks for the CD to do the uninstall, and the CD never does
anything but reinstall -- there is no uninstall option! So finally, I did
what I hate to do -- simply trashed the folders and let the registry cleaners
go at it. (In my view, this is a very inefficient way of uninstalling
software.)

OK. You get the picture so far. Can no longer print to the network printer.
Couple other facts: I can print just fine from the local machine to the
printer. However, I cannot print from the OTHER computer I have either any
more, as I can't even get on the home network with it any more, and I've done
NOTHING to that machine -- no software adds, no utilities, no removals,
nothing. It just will no longer connect to the network unless I disable
security (128 WAP -- nothing dramatic). So THAT machine might be a whole
different issue -- but I knew someone would ask if I can print from it.

NOW, the OTHER problem I am having is with IE6 SP1, and this started during
this time as well. (Btw, while I get no error msg attempting to print frome
IE, it does not print, either.) Somewhere between the first and fifth attempt
to access an internet page each time I restart my machine now, the progress
bar will fill all the way up, then the system will just STOP DEAD for between
2.5 and 3 minutes (I am not sure the time is esp meaningful, as I suspect it
is a function of the processor being used), then finally release and all is
well. During that time, EVERYTHING stops. I can't click any icons in the
taskbar, cannot bring up Task Manager -- if I hadn't watched it come back to
life about 100 times now, I would swear it is just the old Windows lockup
problem and reboot. But it DOES come back to life, and is just fine when it
does. I cannot fathom what is causing this, but I have my suspicions about
all the antivirus, antispam, antispy stuff I've described -- along with the
Dragon stuff. Something is trying to do something (or maybe a lot of things
are trying to do something) and they just sort of lock horns for a while.

ANYHOW, can anyone help me? I have been spending hours per day (I am on
disability so have the time) trying to resolve this, and it is making me
crazy that I can't print. (I think I also have a network problem per the
above but don't think that is the problem here -- although I could be wrong).

I have set up the network again, I have reinstalled the router again, etc. I
can't think of anything I've not tried.

One last thing: I made what I now consider to be the HUGE mistake of
installing and using TweakUI for XP on both this laptop AND the machine that
houses the printer. Immediately after installation, I had problems on both
machines accessing the Windows Update stuff -- only to learn TweakUI had
installed Group Policy settings that were keeping the Update stuff from
working! Earlier, I wrote to this group asking if there was a way to return
all TweakUI settings to their original default upon install, and was told
there was not. I have a feeling this MIGHT be playing into this, but have no
clue how. I have explored every Group setting that I can think of that might
be stopping this to no avail, but by no means have I explored all of them.
DAMN those who put out utilities with no means of recovery when a problem
ensues immediately post-install!

Well, there it is. A lot of info from someone who "just" can't print over
the network any more. But I figured putting as much detail in now might help
those with a mind to try to help me, and save a bunch of postings. I am more
than willing to discuss things or try things suggested by anyone who will
stand on a hill in front of firing squads on all sides and swear they know
what they are talking about.

Please, one last thing: If you are having some other problem and this is
kind of like it but different, please don't use my post to tell about your
problems UNLESS THEY ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT I'VE WRITTEN HERE, but post
separately. Sorry to be selfish about it, but I need answers and suggestions
to this problem.

Thanks.

Bill F
Anonymous
July 4, 2005 6:52:02 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

PS. I tried to reinstall SP2 to no avail -- it quits in the middle of the
install with a cryptic error message. This happened once before, and a wonder
guy at Microsoft chat service spent two days helping me resolve it with
slipstreaming. But it's back (or maybe never went away). I figured doing that
might resolve everything. Last thing -- please don't suggest I blow away the
system and start over. That goes 100% against everything I believe in related
to dealing with issues as they never get resolved. Thanks again ... -BF

"Bill F" wrote:

> I have a 3-computer home workgroup that connects to the internet via a
> Netgear router. I have a Lexmark X74-75 printer/scanner/copier that is
> connect to one of those computers, and that computer is connected directly to
> the router. The other two computers print to the Lexmark via sharing. This
> setup has been working without issue for about 2 years, but in the past week,
> everything seems to have gone to hell, including the ability to print. This
> description may be a little long, but I have to be everything I am about to
> relate is somehow connected. I will do my best to also advise what I have
> installed, removed, etc., during that period.
>
> First, to printing from the machine I am writing this on, a Dell D600
> laptop. While I can see the printer over the network, and can even explore
> the properties, when I try to print now, it comes back with an error message
> dependent on what app I am trying to print from. Office apps tell me the
> printer is not available. Notepad tells me there is an invalid handle.
> Acrobat says some other error occurred, etc. I have uninstalled and
> reinstalled the driver about 1000 times, and have done so by letting the
> network printer install it (which it does just fine) and by installing via
> the Lexmark CD that came with the printer. I have removed everything on my
> system related to Lexmark (which is one helluva chore!), including (finally)
> getting rid of the LexBce server that wasn't allowing me to use the print
> spooler any more or install printers. I removed everything -- every printer
> driver, every printer and faux printer (eFax, PDF writer, etc) using
> Microsoft's KB as guidance. I then cleaned up the registry using a
> combination of Ace Utilities, RegSeeker and RegScrubXP, and started all over.
> I can add the printer using the Add Printer function fine, but still have the
> same errors and cannot print.
>
> There are other goings-on that might help resolve this for me and others,
> all new. I installed Microsoft Antispyware Beta. For the past few years, I
> have run Ad-Aware (free version), PestPatrol. In that past few months, I
> replaced PestPatrol (which always worked fabulously for me) with Spybot, as
> PP was getting long in tooth and I did not want to shell out to get an
> updated version, and had been reading a lot of bad stuff about it. That
> seemed to work fine as well. But since installed MAB, I have had other
> weirdness going on with my system. I uninstalled Spybot to use it, but have
> since uninstalled MAB and gone back to Spybot in case MAB had somehow
> contributed to this printing problem.
>
> Next, I decided to upgrade to Ad-Aware Plus. In my view, big mistake. I have
> not only had performance issues since installing it (especially with
> Ad-Watch). I recently wrote to Lavasoft after reading Microsoft's basic
> indictment of the product when sending an error report after a Not Responding
> problem, but have heard nothing back except to reinstall it.
>
> There's more -- and this might be tell-tale, although I don't know what to
> do about it. I was given a gift from Scansoft of Dragon Naturally Speaking 7
> about a year ago (I am a global IT strategy director for a large engineering
> services company) for trying out its PDF conversion program (which is quite
> good, by the way), but had never installed it until a few weeks ago (note how
> all this timing seems to point back to a few weeks ago). Thinking this might
> be a part of the problems I've been having (and I have one more to relate
> yet), I tried to uninstall it. IMPOSSIBLE, and I know what I'm doing. The
> Add/Remove always asks for the CD to do the uninstall, and the CD never does
> anything but reinstall -- there is no uninstall option! So finally, I did
> what I hate to do -- simply trashed the folders and let the registry cleaners
> go at it. (In my view, this is a very inefficient way of uninstalling
> software.)
>
> OK. You get the picture so far. Can no longer print to the network printer.
> Couple other facts: I can print just fine from the local machine to the
> printer. However, I cannot print from the OTHER computer I have either any
> more, as I can't even get on the home network with it any more, and I've done
> NOTHING to that machine -- no software adds, no utilities, no removals,
> nothing. It just will no longer connect to the network unless I disable
> security (128 WAP -- nothing dramatic). So THAT machine might be a whole
> different issue -- but I knew someone would ask if I can print from it.
>
> NOW, the OTHER problem I am having is with IE6 SP1, and this started during
> this time as well. (Btw, while I get no error msg attempting to print frome
> IE, it does not print, either.) Somewhere between the first and fifth attempt
> to access an internet page each time I restart my machine now, the progress
> bar will fill all the way up, then the system will just STOP DEAD for between
> 2.5 and 3 minutes (I am not sure the time is esp meaningful, as I suspect it
> is a function of the processor being used), then finally release and all is
> well. During that time, EVERYTHING stops. I can't click any icons in the
> taskbar, cannot bring up Task Manager -- if I hadn't watched it come back to
> life about 100 times now, I would swear it is just the old Windows lockup
> problem and reboot. But it DOES come back to life, and is just fine when it
> does. I cannot fathom what is causing this, but I have my suspicions about
> all the antivirus, antispam, antispy stuff I've described -- along with the
> Dragon stuff. Something is trying to do something (or maybe a lot of things
> are trying to do something) and they just sort of lock horns for a while.
>
> ANYHOW, can anyone help me? I have been spending hours per day (I am on
> disability so have the time) trying to resolve this, and it is making me
> crazy that I can't print. (I think I also have a network problem per the
> above but don't think that is the problem here -- although I could be wrong).
>
> I have set up the network again, I have reinstalled the router again, etc. I
> can't think of anything I've not tried.
>
> One last thing: I made what I now consider to be the HUGE mistake of
> installing and using TweakUI for XP on both this laptop AND the machine that
> houses the printer. Immediately after installation, I had problems on both
> machines accessing the Windows Update stuff -- only to learn TweakUI had
> installed Group Policy settings that were keeping the Update stuff from
> working! Earlier, I wrote to this group asking if there was a way to return
> all TweakUI settings to their original default upon install, and was told
> there was not. I have a feeling this MIGHT be playing into this, but have no
> clue how. I have explored every Group setting that I can think of that might
> be stopping this to no avail, but by no means have I explored all of them.
> DAMN those who put out utilities with no means of recovery when a problem
> ensues immediately post-install!
>
> Well, there it is. A lot of info from someone who "just" can't print over
> the network any more. But I figured putting as much detail in now might help
> those with a mind to try to help me, and save a bunch of postings. I am more
> than willing to discuss things or try things suggested by anyone who will
> stand on a hill in front of firing squads on all sides and swear they know
> what they are talking about.
>
> Please, one last thing: If you are having some other problem and this is
> kind of like it but different, please don't use my post to tell about your
> problems UNLESS THEY ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT I'VE WRITTEN HERE, but post
> separately. Sorry to be selfish about it, but I need answers and suggestions
> to this problem.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill F
Anonymous
July 5, 2005 3:19:09 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

Do all three computers on the network use Windows XP? Is System Restore
enabled on all three? If so, check to see if you have restore dates
available that precede the onset of printing problems. Restore all three
systems to the most suitable date.

Let us know.

Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User


"Bill F" <BillF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:82939DAA-846F-44B1-AB8E-7E8C1326BB61@microsoft.com...
:I have a 3-computer home workgroup that connects to the internet via a
: Netgear router. I have a Lexmark X74-75 printer/scanner/copier that is
: connect to one of those computers, and that computer is connected
directly to
: the router. The other two computers print to the Lexmark via sharing.
This
: setup has been working without issue for about 2 years, but in the
past week,
: everything seems to have gone to hell, including the ability to print.
This
: description may be a little long, but I have to be everything I am
about to
: relate is somehow connected. I will do my best to also advise what I
have
: installed, removed, etc., during that period.
:
: First, to printing from the machine I am writing this on, a Dell D600
: laptop. While I can see the printer over the network, and can even
explore
: the properties, when I try to print now, it comes back with an error
message
: dependent on what app I am trying to print from. Office apps tell me
the
: printer is not available. Notepad tells me there is an invalid handle.
: Acrobat says some other error occurred, etc. I have uninstalled and
: reinstalled the driver about 1000 times, and have done so by letting
the
: network printer install it (which it does just fine) and by installing
via
: the Lexmark CD that came with the printer. I have removed everything
on my
: system related to Lexmark (which is one helluva chore!), including
(finally)
: getting rid of the LexBce server that wasn't allowing me to use the
print
: spooler any more or install printers. I removed everything -- every
printer
: driver, every printer and faux printer (eFax, PDF writer, etc) using
: Microsoft's KB as guidance. I then cleaned up the registry using a
: combination of Ace Utilities, RegSeeker and RegScrubXP, and started
all over.
: I can add the printer using the Add Printer function fine, but still
have the
: same errors and cannot print.
:
: There are other goings-on that might help resolve this for me and
others,
: all new. I installed Microsoft Antispyware Beta. For the past few
years, I
: have run Ad-Aware (free version), PestPatrol. In that past few months,
I
: replaced PestPatrol (which always worked fabulously for me) with
Spybot, as
: PP was getting long in tooth and I did not want to shell out to get an
: updated version, and had been reading a lot of bad stuff about it.
That
: seemed to work fine as well. But since installed MAB, I have had other
: weirdness going on with my system. I uninstalled Spybot to use it, but
have
: since uninstalled MAB and gone back to Spybot in case MAB had somehow
: contributed to this printing problem.
:
: Next, I decided to upgrade to Ad-Aware Plus. In my view, big mistake.
I have
: not only had performance issues since installing it (especially with
: Ad-Watch). I recently wrote to Lavasoft after reading Microsoft's
basic
: indictment of the product when sending an error report after a Not
Responding
: problem, but have heard nothing back except to reinstall it.
:
: There's more -- and this might be tell-tale, although I don't know
what to
: do about it. I was given a gift from Scansoft of Dragon Naturally
Speaking 7
: about a year ago (I am a global IT strategy director for a large
engineering
: services company) for trying out its PDF conversion program (which is
quite
: good, by the way), but had never installed it until a few weeks ago
(note how
: all this timing seems to point back to a few weeks ago). Thinking this
might
: be a part of the problems I've been having (and I have one more to
relate
: yet), I tried to uninstall it. IMPOSSIBLE, and I know what I'm doing.
The
: Add/Remove always asks for the CD to do the uninstall, and the CD
never does
: anything but reinstall -- there is no uninstall option! So finally, I
did
: what I hate to do -- simply trashed the folders and let the registry
cleaners
: go at it. (In my view, this is a very inefficient way of uninstalling
: software.)
:
: OK. You get the picture so far. Can no longer print to the network
printer.
: Couple other facts: I can print just fine from the local machine to
the
: printer. However, I cannot print from the OTHER computer I have either
any
: more, as I can't even get on the home network with it any more, and
I've done
: NOTHING to that machine -- no software adds, no utilities, no
removals,
: nothing. It just will no longer connect to the network unless I
disable
: security (128 WAP -- nothing dramatic). So THAT machine might be a
whole
: different issue -- but I knew someone would ask if I can print from
it.
:
: NOW, the OTHER problem I am having is with IE6 SP1, and this started
during
: this time as well. (Btw, while I get no error msg attempting to print
frome
: IE, it does not print, either.) Somewhere between the first and fifth
attempt
: to access an internet page each time I restart my machine now, the
progress
: bar will fill all the way up, then the system will just STOP DEAD for
between
: 2.5 and 3 minutes (I am not sure the time is esp meaningful, as I
suspect it
: is a function of the processor being used), then finally release and
all is
: well. During that time, EVERYTHING stops. I can't click any icons in
the
: taskbar, cannot bring up Task Manager -- if I hadn't watched it come
back to
: life about 100 times now, I would swear it is just the old Windows
lockup
: problem and reboot. But it DOES come back to life, and is just fine
when it
: does. I cannot fathom what is causing this, but I have my suspicions
about
: all the antivirus, antispam, antispy stuff I've described -- along
with the
: Dragon stuff. Something is trying to do something (or maybe a lot of
things
: are trying to do something) and they just sort of lock horns for a
while.
:
: ANYHOW, can anyone help me? I have been spending hours per day (I am
on
: disability so have the time) trying to resolve this, and it is making
me
: crazy that I can't print. (I think I also have a network problem per
the
: above but don't think that is the problem here -- although I could be
wrong).
:
: I have set up the network again, I have reinstalled the router again,
etc. I
: can't think of anything I've not tried.
:
: One last thing: I made what I now consider to be the HUGE mistake of
: installing and using TweakUI for XP on both this laptop AND the
machine that
: houses the printer. Immediately after installation, I had problems on
both
: machines accessing the Windows Update stuff -- only to learn TweakUI
had
: installed Group Policy settings that were keeping the Update stuff
from
: working! Earlier, I wrote to this group asking if there was a way to
return
: all TweakUI settings to their original default upon install, and was
told
: there was not. I have a feeling this MIGHT be playing into this, but
have no
: clue how. I have explored every Group setting that I can think of that
might
: be stopping this to no avail, but by no means have I explored all of
them.
: DAMN those who put out utilities with no means of recovery when a
problem
: ensues immediately post-install!
:
: Well, there it is. A lot of info from someone who "just" can't print
over
: the network any more. But I figured putting as much detail in now
might help
: those with a mind to try to help me, and save a bunch of postings. I
am more
: than willing to discuss things or try things suggested by anyone who
will
: stand on a hill in front of firing squads on all sides and swear they
know
: what they are talking about.
:
: Please, one last thing: If you are having some other problem and this
is
: kind of like it but different, please don't use my post to tell about
your
: problems UNLESS THEY ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT I'VE WRITTEN HERE,
but post
: separately. Sorry to be selfish about it, but I need answers and
suggestions
: to this problem.
:
: Thanks.
:
: Bill F
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Anonymous
July 5, 2005 3:19:10 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

Thanks for the quick reply, Tom. Two of the three are XP, one is W2K SP4.
Tried the Restore on my laptop, no luck. Btw, there is no problem (that I
know of) with the machine to which the shared printer is connected.
-bf

"Tom Ferguson" wrote:

> Do all three computers on the network use Windows XP? Is System Restore
> enabled on all three? If so, check to see if you have restore dates
> available that precede the onset of printing problems. Restore all three
> systems to the most suitable date.
>
> Let us know.
>
> Tom
> MSMVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Bill F" <BillF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:82939DAA-846F-44B1-AB8E-7E8C1326BB61@microsoft.com...
> :I have a 3-computer home workgroup that connects to the internet via a
> : Netgear router. I have a Lexmark X74-75 printer/scanner/copier that is
> : connect to one of those computers, and that computer is connected
> directly to
> : the router. The other two computers print to the Lexmark via sharing.
> This
> : setup has been working without issue for about 2 years, but in the
> past week,
> : everything seems to have gone to hell, including the ability to print.
> This
> : description may be a little long, but I have to be everything I am
> about to
> : relate is somehow connected. I will do my best to also advise what I
> have
> : installed, removed, etc., during that period.
> :
> : First, to printing from the machine I am writing this on, a Dell D600
> : laptop. While I can see the printer over the network, and can even
> explore
> : the properties, when I try to print now, it comes back with an error
> message
> : dependent on what app I am trying to print from. Office apps tell me
> the
> : printer is not available. Notepad tells me there is an invalid handle.
> : Acrobat says some other error occurred, etc. I have uninstalled and
> : reinstalled the driver about 1000 times, and have done so by letting
> the
> : network printer install it (which it does just fine) and by installing
> via
> : the Lexmark CD that came with the printer. I have removed everything
> on my
> : system related to Lexmark (which is one helluva chore!), including
> (finally)
> : getting rid of the LexBce server that wasn't allowing me to use the
> print
> : spooler any more or install printers. I removed everything -- every
> printer
> : driver, every printer and faux printer (eFax, PDF writer, etc) using
> : Microsoft's KB as guidance. I then cleaned up the registry using a
> : combination of Ace Utilities, RegSeeker and RegScrubXP, and started
> all over.
> : I can add the printer using the Add Printer function fine, but still
> have the
> : same errors and cannot print.
> :
> : There are other goings-on that might help resolve this for me and
> others,
> : all new. I installed Microsoft Antispyware Beta. For the past few
> years, I
> : have run Ad-Aware (free version), PestPatrol. In that past few months,
> I
> : replaced PestPatrol (which always worked fabulously for me) with
> Spybot, as
> : PP was getting long in tooth and I did not want to shell out to get an
> : updated version, and had been reading a lot of bad stuff about it.
> That
> : seemed to work fine as well. But since installed MAB, I have had other
> : weirdness going on with my system. I uninstalled Spybot to use it, but
> have
> : since uninstalled MAB and gone back to Spybot in case MAB had somehow
> : contributed to this printing problem.
> :
> : Next, I decided to upgrade to Ad-Aware Plus. In my view, big mistake.
> I have
> : not only had performance issues since installing it (especially with
> : Ad-Watch). I recently wrote to Lavasoft after reading Microsoft's
> basic
> : indictment of the product when sending an error report after a Not
> Responding
> : problem, but have heard nothing back except to reinstall it.
> :
> : There's more -- and this might be tell-tale, although I don't know
> what to
> : do about it. I was given a gift from Scansoft of Dragon Naturally
> Speaking 7
> : about a year ago (I am a global IT strategy director for a large
> engineering
> : services company) for trying out its PDF conversion program (which is
> quite
> : good, by the way), but had never installed it until a few weeks ago
> (note how
> : all this timing seems to point back to a few weeks ago). Thinking this
> might
> : be a part of the problems I've been having (and I have one more to
> relate
> : yet), I tried to uninstall it. IMPOSSIBLE, and I know what I'm doing.
> The
> : Add/Remove always asks for the CD to do the uninstall, and the CD
> never does
> : anything but reinstall -- there is no uninstall option! So finally, I
> did
> : what I hate to do -- simply trashed the folders and let the registry
> cleaners
> : go at it. (In my view, this is a very inefficient way of uninstalling
> : software.)
> :
> : OK. You get the picture so far. Can no longer print to the network
> printer.
> : Couple other facts: I can print just fine from the local machine to
> the
> : printer. However, I cannot print from the OTHER computer I have either
> any
> : more, as I can't even get on the home network with it any more, and
> I've done
> : NOTHING to that machine -- no software adds, no utilities, no
> removals,
> : nothing. It just will no longer connect to the network unless I
> disable
> : security (128 WAP -- nothing dramatic). So THAT machine might be a
> whole
> : different issue -- but I knew someone would ask if I can print from
> it.
> :
> : NOW, the OTHER problem I am having is with IE6 SP1, and this started
> during
> : this time as well. (Btw, while I get no error msg attempting to print
> frome
> : IE, it does not print, either.) Somewhere between the first and fifth
> attempt
> : to access an internet page each time I restart my machine now, the
> progress
> : bar will fill all the way up, then the system will just STOP DEAD for
> between
> : 2.5 and 3 minutes (I am not sure the time is esp meaningful, as I
> suspect it
> : is a function of the processor being used), then finally release and
> all is
> : well. During that time, EVERYTHING stops. I can't click any icons in
> the
> : taskbar, cannot bring up Task Manager -- if I hadn't watched it come
> back to
> : life about 100 times now, I would swear it is just the old Windows
> lockup
> : problem and reboot. But it DOES come back to life, and is just fine
> when it
> : does. I cannot fathom what is causing this, but I have my suspicions
> about
> : all the antivirus, antispam, antispy stuff I've described -- along
> with the
> : Dragon stuff. Something is trying to do something (or maybe a lot of
> things
> : are trying to do something) and they just sort of lock horns for a
> while.
> :
> : ANYHOW, can anyone help me? I have been spending hours per day (I am
> on
> : disability so have the time) trying to resolve this, and it is making
> me
> : crazy that I can't print. (I think I also have a network problem per
> the
> : above but don't think that is the problem here -- although I could be
> wrong).
> :
> : I have set up the network again, I have reinstalled the router again,
> etc. I
> : can't think of anything I've not tried.
> :
> : One last thing: I made what I now consider to be the HUGE mistake of
> : installing and using TweakUI for XP on both this laptop AND the
> machine that
> : houses the printer. Immediately after installation, I had problems on
> both
> : machines accessing the Windows Update stuff -- only to learn TweakUI
> had
> : installed Group Policy settings that were keeping the Update stuff
> from
> : working! Earlier, I wrote to this group asking if there was a way to
> return
> : all TweakUI settings to their original default upon install, and was
> told
> : there was not. I have a feeling this MIGHT be playing into this, but
> have no
> : clue how. I have explored every Group setting that I can think of that
> might
> : be stopping this to no avail, but by no means have I explored all of
> them.
> : DAMN those who put out utilities with no means of recovery when a
> problem
> : ensues immediately post-install!
> :
> : Well, there it is. A lot of info from someone who "just" can't print
> over
> : the network any more. But I figured putting as much detail in now
> might help
> : those with a mind to try to help me, and save a bunch of postings. I
> am more
> : than willing to discuss things or try things suggested by anyone who
> will
> : stand on a hill in front of firing squads on all sides and swear they
> know
> : what they are talking about.
> :
> : Please, one last thing: If you are having some other problem and this
> is
> : kind of like it but different, please don't use my post to tell about
> your
> : problems UNLESS THEY ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT I'VE WRITTEN HERE,
> but post
> : separately. Sorry to be selfish about it, but I need answers and
> suggestions
> : to this problem.
> :
> : Thanks.
> :
> : Bill F
>
>
>
Anonymous
July 5, 2005 4:13:02 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

OK.

Remove the printer drivers now on the system. See
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/CleanPrinterDrivers.htm

Next, install a fresh copy from the Lexmark web site. Be sure not to
connect the printer until the instructions tell you to.

Let us know.

Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User

"Bill F" <BillF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:82939DAA-846F-44B1-AB8E-7E8C1326BB61@microsoft.com...
:I have a 3-computer home workgroup that connects to the internet via a
: Netgear router. I have a Lexmark X74-75 printer/scanner/copier that is
: connect to one of those computers, and that computer is connected
directly to
: the router. The other two computers print to the Lexmark via sharing.
This
: setup has been working without issue for about 2 years, but in the
past week,
: everything seems to have gone to hell, including the ability to print.
This
: description may be a little long, but I have to be everything I am
about to
: relate is somehow connected. I will do my best to also advise what I
have
: installed, removed, etc., during that period.
:
: First, to printing from the machine I am writing this on, a Dell D600
: laptop. While I can see the printer over the network, and can even
explore
: the properties, when I try to print now, it comes back with an error
message
: dependent on what app I am trying to print from. Office apps tell me
the
: printer is not available. Notepad tells me there is an invalid handle.
: Acrobat says some other error occurred, etc. I have uninstalled and
: reinstalled the driver about 1000 times, and have done so by letting
the
: network printer install it (which it does just fine) and by installing
via
: the Lexmark CD that came with the printer. I have removed everything
on my
: system related to Lexmark (which is one helluva chore!), including
(finally)
: getting rid of the LexBce server that wasn't allowing me to use the
print
: spooler any more or install printers. I removed everything -- every
printer
: driver, every printer and faux printer (eFax, PDF writer, etc) using
: Microsoft's KB as guidance. I then cleaned up the registry using a
: combination of Ace Utilities, RegSeeker and RegScrubXP, and started
all over.
: I can add the printer using the Add Printer function fine, but still
have the
: same errors and cannot print.
:
: There are other goings-on that might help resolve this for me and
others,
: all new. I installed Microsoft Antispyware Beta. For the past few
years, I
: have run Ad-Aware (free version), PestPatrol. In that past few months,
I
: replaced PestPatrol (which always worked fabulously for me) with
Spybot, as
: PP was getting long in tooth and I did not want to shell out to get an
: updated version, and had been reading a lot of bad stuff about it.
That
: seemed to work fine as well. But since installed MAB, I have had other
: weirdness going on with my system. I uninstalled Spybot to use it, but
have
: since uninstalled MAB and gone back to Spybot in case MAB had somehow
: contributed to this printing problem.
:
: Next, I decided to upgrade to Ad-Aware Plus. In my view, big mistake.
I have
: not only had performance issues since installing it (especially with
: Ad-Watch). I recently wrote to Lavasoft after reading Microsoft's
basic
: indictment of the product when sending an error report after a Not
Responding
: problem, but have heard nothing back except to reinstall it.
:
: There's more -- and this might be tell-tale, although I don't know
what to
: do about it. I was given a gift from Scansoft of Dragon Naturally
Speaking 7
: about a year ago (I am a global IT strategy director for a large
engineering
: services company) for trying out its PDF conversion program (which is
quite
: good, by the way), but had never installed it until a few weeks ago
(note how
: all this timing seems to point back to a few weeks ago). Thinking this
might
: be a part of the problems I've been having (and I have one more to
relate
: yet), I tried to uninstall it. IMPOSSIBLE, and I know what I'm doing.
The
: Add/Remove always asks for the CD to do the uninstall, and the CD
never does
: anything but reinstall -- there is no uninstall option! So finally, I
did
: what I hate to do -- simply trashed the folders and let the registry
cleaners
: go at it. (In my view, this is a very inefficient way of uninstalling
: software.)
:
: OK. You get the picture so far. Can no longer print to the network
printer.
: Couple other facts: I can print just fine from the local machine to
the
: printer. However, I cannot print from the OTHER computer I have either
any
: more, as I can't even get on the home network with it any more, and
I've done
: NOTHING to that machine -- no software adds, no utilities, no
removals,
: nothing. It just will no longer connect to the network unless I
disable
: security (128 WAP -- nothing dramatic). So THAT machine might be a
whole
: different issue -- but I knew someone would ask if I can print from
it.
:
: NOW, the OTHER problem I am having is with IE6 SP1, and this started
during
: this time as well. (Btw, while I get no error msg attempting to print
frome
: IE, it does not print, either.) Somewhere between the first and fifth
attempt
: to access an internet page each time I restart my machine now, the
progress
: bar will fill all the way up, then the system will just STOP DEAD for
between
: 2.5 and 3 minutes (I am not sure the time is esp meaningful, as I
suspect it
: is a function of the processor being used), then finally release and
all is
: well. During that time, EVERYTHING stops. I can't click any icons in
the
: taskbar, cannot bring up Task Manager -- if I hadn't watched it come
back to
: life about 100 times now, I would swear it is just the old Windows
lockup
: problem and reboot. But it DOES come back to life, and is just fine
when it
: does. I cannot fathom what is causing this, but I have my suspicions
about
: all the antivirus, antispam, antispy stuff I've described -- along
with the
: Dragon stuff. Something is trying to do something (or maybe a lot of
things
: are trying to do something) and they just sort of lock horns for a
while.
:
: ANYHOW, can anyone help me? I have been spending hours per day (I am
on
: disability so have the time) trying to resolve this, and it is making
me
: crazy that I can't print. (I think I also have a network problem per
the
: above but don't think that is the problem here -- although I could be
wrong).
:
: I have set up the network again, I have reinstalled the router again,
etc. I
: can't think of anything I've not tried.
:
: One last thing: I made what I now consider to be the HUGE mistake of
: installing and using TweakUI for XP on both this laptop AND the
machine that
: houses the printer. Immediately after installation, I had problems on
both
: machines accessing the Windows Update stuff -- only to learn TweakUI
had
: installed Group Policy settings that were keeping the Update stuff
from
: working! Earlier, I wrote to this group asking if there was a way to
return
: all TweakUI settings to their original default upon install, and was
told
: there was not. I have a feeling this MIGHT be playing into this, but
have no
: clue how. I have explored every Group setting that I can think of that
might
: be stopping this to no avail, but by no means have I explored all of
them.
: DAMN those who put out utilities with no means of recovery when a
problem
: ensues immediately post-install!
:
: Well, there it is. A lot of info from someone who "just" can't print
over
: the network any more. But I figured putting as much detail in now
might help
: those with a mind to try to help me, and save a bunch of postings. I
am more
: than willing to discuss things or try things suggested by anyone who
will
: stand on a hill in front of firing squads on all sides and swear they
know
: what they are talking about.
:
: Please, one last thing: If you are having some other problem and this
is
: kind of like it but different, please don't use my post to tell about
your
: problems UNLESS THEY ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT I'VE WRITTEN HERE,
but post
: separately. Sorry to be selfish about it, but I need answers and
suggestions
: to this problem.
:
: Thanks.
:
: Bill F
Anonymous
July 5, 2005 4:13:03 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

Tom,

I have finally resolved the problem and can again print from the laptop to
the shared printer. Virtually everything I wrote about came into play in one
way or another, and I basically spent the whole weekend immersed in the KBs
and the registry and services. Finally about 10 minutes ago, I was able to
print again. I will now add each thing back one-at-a-time and see if anything
impacts my ability to print, and if so, will post that here.

If you or any reader would like more details, let me know. I feel like I am
now a quasi-expert on this topic.

Now if I could only get the other computer to connect to the network again,
I'd be golden there, too.

One note: I still have the "IE Locking Up" problem wherein at some point in
using IE, the status bar will fill up, and my whole machine will go into
cardiac arrest or something for about 2-3 minutes -- appearing completely
locked up, even to the point of not being able to launch Task Manager -- then
finally, POP!, everything's back and fine until the next time I boot, when it
will do it again one time. One thing I know for sure, it isn't any adware,
pests, viruses, etc. My system reported sparkly clean prior to my
uninstalling all that stuff to try to get the printing working again.

But I realize that's now another post for another area than "Printing and
Faxing".

Thanks for you help ...

Bill F

"Tom Ferguson" wrote:

> OK.
>
> Remove the printer drivers now on the system. See
> http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/CleanPrinterDrivers.htm
>
> Next, install a fresh copy from the Lexmark web site. Be sure not to
> connect the printer until the instructions tell you to.
>
> Let us know.
>
> Tom
> MSMVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> "Bill F" <BillF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:82939DAA-846F-44B1-AB8E-7E8C1326BB61@microsoft.com...
> :I have a 3-computer home workgroup that connects to the internet via a
> : Netgear router. I have a Lexmark X74-75 printer/scanner/copier that is
> : connect to one of those computers, and that computer is connected
> directly to
> : the router. The other two computers print to the Lexmark via sharing.
> This
> : setup has been working without issue for about 2 years, but in the
> past week,
> : everything seems to have gone to hell, including the ability to print.
> This
> : description may be a little long, but I have to be everything I am
> about to
> : relate is somehow connected. I will do my best to also advise what I
> have
> : installed, removed, etc., during that period.
> :
> : First, to printing from the machine I am writing this on, a Dell D600
> : laptop. While I can see the printer over the network, and can even
> explore
> : the properties, when I try to print now, it comes back with an error
> message
> : dependent on what app I am trying to print from. Office apps tell me
> the
> : printer is not available. Notepad tells me there is an invalid handle.
> : Acrobat says some other error occurred, etc. I have uninstalled and
> : reinstalled the driver about 1000 times, and have done so by letting
> the
> : network printer install it (which it does just fine) and by installing
> via
> : the Lexmark CD that came with the printer. I have removed everything
> on my
> : system related to Lexmark (which is one helluva chore!), including
> (finally)
> : getting rid of the LexBce server that wasn't allowing me to use the
> print
> : spooler any more or install printers. I removed everything -- every
> printer
> : driver, every printer and faux printer (eFax, PDF writer, etc) using
> : Microsoft's KB as guidance. I then cleaned up the registry using a
> : combination of Ace Utilities, RegSeeker and RegScrubXP, and started
> all over.
> : I can add the printer using the Add Printer function fine, but still
> have the
> : same errors and cannot print.
> :
> : There are other goings-on that might help resolve this for me and
> others,
> : all new. I installed Microsoft Antispyware Beta. For the past few
> years, I
> : have run Ad-Aware (free version), PestPatrol. In that past few months,
> I
> : replaced PestPatrol (which always worked fabulously for me) with
> Spybot, as
> : PP was getting long in tooth and I did not want to shell out to get an
> : updated version, and had been reading a lot of bad stuff about it.
> That
> : seemed to work fine as well. But since installed MAB, I have had other
> : weirdness going on with my system. I uninstalled Spybot to use it, but
> have
> : since uninstalled MAB and gone back to Spybot in case MAB had somehow
> : contributed to this printing problem.
> :
> : Next, I decided to upgrade to Ad-Aware Plus. In my view, big mistake.
> I have
> : not only had performance issues since installing it (especially with
> : Ad-Watch). I recently wrote to Lavasoft after reading Microsoft's
> basic
> : indictment of the product when sending an error report after a Not
> Responding
> : problem, but have heard nothing back except to reinstall it.
> :
> : There's more -- and this might be tell-tale, although I don't know
> what to
> : do about it. I was given a gift from Scansoft of Dragon Naturally
> Speaking 7
> : about a year ago (I am a global IT strategy director for a large
> engineering
> : services company) for trying out its PDF conversion program (which is
> quite
> : good, by the way), but had never installed it until a few weeks ago
> (note how
> : all this timing seems to point back to a few weeks ago). Thinking this
> might
> : be a part of the problems I've been having (and I have one more to
> relate
> : yet), I tried to uninstall it. IMPOSSIBLE, and I know what I'm doing.
> The
> : Add/Remove always asks for the CD to do the uninstall, and the CD
> never does
> : anything but reinstall -- there is no uninstall option! So finally, I
> did
> : what I hate to do -- simply trashed the folders and let the registry
> cleaners
> : go at it. (In my view, this is a very inefficient way of uninstalling
> : software.)
> :
> : OK. You get the picture so far. Can no longer print to the network
> printer.
> : Couple other facts: I can print just fine from the local machine to
> the
> : printer. However, I cannot print from the OTHER computer I have either
> any
> : more, as I can't even get on the home network with it any more, and
> I've done
> : NOTHING to that machine -- no software adds, no utilities, no
> removals,
> : nothing. It just will no longer connect to the network unless I
> disable
> : security (128 WAP -- nothing dramatic). So THAT machine might be a
> whole
> : different issue -- but I knew someone would ask if I can print from
> it.
> :
> : NOW, the OTHER problem I am having is with IE6 SP1, and this started
> during
> : this time as well. (Btw, while I get no error msg attempting to print
> frome
> : IE, it does not print, either.) Somewhere between the first and fifth
> attempt
> : to access an internet page each time I restart my machine now, the
> progress
> : bar will fill all the way up, then the system will just STOP DEAD for
> between
> : 2.5 and 3 minutes (I am not sure the time is esp meaningful, as I
> suspect it
> : is a function of the processor being used), then finally release and
> all is
> : well. During that time, EVERYTHING stops. I can't click any icons in
> the
> : taskbar, cannot bring up Task Manager -- if I hadn't watched it come
> back to
> : life about 100 times now, I would swear it is just the old Windows
> lockup
> : problem and reboot. But it DOES come back to life, and is just fine
> when it
> : does. I cannot fathom what is causing this, but I have my suspicions
> about
> : all the antivirus, antispam, antispy stuff I've described -- along
> with the
> : Dragon stuff. Something is trying to do something (or maybe a lot of
> things
> : are trying to do something) and they just sort of lock horns for a
> while.
> :
> : ANYHOW, can anyone help me? I have been spending hours per day (I am
> on
> : disability so have the time) trying to resolve this, and it is making
> me
> : crazy that I can't print. (I think I also have a network problem per
> the
> : above but don't think that is the problem here -- although I could be
> wrong).
> :
> : I have set up the network again, I have reinstalled the router again,
> etc. I
> : can't think of anything I've not tried.
> :
> : One last thing: I made what I now consider to be the HUGE mistake of
> : installing and using TweakUI for XP on both this laptop AND the
> machine that
> : houses the printer. Immediately after installation, I had problems on
> both
> : machines accessing the Windows Update stuff -- only to learn TweakUI
> had
> : installed Group Policy settings that were keeping the Update stuff
> from
> : working! Earlier, I wrote to this group asking if there was a way to
> return
> : all TweakUI settings to their original default upon install, and was
> told
> : there was not. I have a feeling this MIGHT be playing into this, but
> have no
> : clue how. I have explored every Group setting that I can think of that
> might
> : be stopping this to no avail, but by no means have I explored all of
> them.
> : DAMN those who put out utilities with no means of recovery when a
> problem
> : ensues immediately post-install!
> :
> : Well, there it is. A lot of info from someone who "just" can't print
> over
> : the network any more. But I figured putting as much detail in now
> might help
> : those with a mind to try to help me, and save a bunch of postings. I
> am more
> : than willing to discuss things or try things suggested by anyone who
> will
> : stand on a hill in front of firing squads on all sides and swear they
> know
> : what they are talking about.
> :
> : Please, one last thing: If you are having some other problem and this
> is
> : kind of like it but different, please don't use my post to tell about
> your
> : problems UNLESS THEY ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT I'VE WRITTEN HERE,
> but post
> : separately. Sorry to be selfish about it, but I need answers and
> suggestions
> : to this problem.
> :
> : Thanks.
> :
> : Bill F
>
>
>
Anonymous
July 5, 2005 8:39:11 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

Thanks for the information. Yes, please do let us know. Someone else
might benefit from the information in the future.

Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User


"Bill F" <BillF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D1E2BAA-C205-40B5-AD4F-8501157069F6@microsoft.com...
: Tom,
:
: I have finally resolved the problem and can again print from the
laptop to
: the shared printer. Virtually everything I wrote about came into play
in one
: way or another, and I basically spent the whole weekend immersed in
the KBs
: and the registry and services. Finally about 10 minutes ago, I was
able to
: print again. I will now add each thing back one-at-a-time and see if
anything
: impacts my ability to print, and if so, will post that here.
:
: If you or any reader would like more details, let me know. I feel like
I am
: now a quasi-expert on this topic.
:
: Now if I could only get the other computer to connect to the network
again,
: I'd be golden there, too.
:
: One note: I still have the "IE Locking Up" problem wherein at some
point in
: using IE, the status bar will fill up, and my whole machine will go
into
: cardiac arrest or something for about 2-3 minutes -- appearing
completely
: locked up, even to the point of not being able to launch Task
Manager -- then
: finally, POP!, everything's back and fine until the next time I boot,
when it
: will do it again one time. One thing I know for sure, it isn't any
adware,
: pests, viruses, etc. My system reported sparkly clean prior to my
: uninstalling all that stuff to try to get the printing working again.
:
: But I realize that's now another post for another area than "Printing
and
: Faxing".
:
: Thanks for you help ...
:
: Bill F
:
: "Tom Ferguson" wrote:
:
: > OK.
: >
: > Remove the printer drivers now on the system. See
: > http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/CleanPrinterDrivers.htm
: >
: > Next, install a fresh copy from the Lexmark web site. Be sure not to
: > connect the printer until the instructions tell you to.
: >
: > Let us know.
: >
: > Tom
: > MSMVP
: > Windows Shell/User
: >
: > "Bill F" <BillF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
: > news:82939DAA-846F-44B1-AB8E-7E8C1326BB61@microsoft.com...
: > :I have a 3-computer home workgroup that connects to the internet
via a
: > : Netgear router. I have a Lexmark X74-75 printer/scanner/copier
that is
: > : connect to one of those computers, and that computer is connected
: > directly to
: > : the router. The other two computers print to the Lexmark via
sharing.
: > This
: > : setup has been working without issue for about 2 years, but in the
: > past week,
: > : everything seems to have gone to hell, including the ability to
print.
: > This
: > : description may be a little long, but I have to be everything I am
: > about to
: > : relate is somehow connected. I will do my best to also advise what
I
: > have
: > : installed, removed, etc., during that period.
: > :
: > : First, to printing from the machine I am writing this on, a Dell
D600
: > : laptop. While I can see the printer over the network, and can even
: > explore
: > : the properties, when I try to print now, it comes back with an
error
: > message
: > : dependent on what app I am trying to print from. Office apps tell
me
: > the
: > : printer is not available. Notepad tells me there is an invalid
handle.
: > : Acrobat says some other error occurred, etc. I have uninstalled
and
: > : reinstalled the driver about 1000 times, and have done so by
letting
: > the
: > : network printer install it (which it does just fine) and by
installing
: > via
: > : the Lexmark CD that came with the printer. I have removed
everything
: > on my
: > : system related to Lexmark (which is one helluva chore!), including
: > (finally)
: > : getting rid of the LexBce server that wasn't allowing me to use
the
: > print
: > : spooler any more or install printers. I removed everything --
every
: > printer
: > : driver, every printer and faux printer (eFax, PDF writer, etc)
using
: > : Microsoft's KB as guidance. I then cleaned up the registry using a
: > : combination of Ace Utilities, RegSeeker and RegScrubXP, and
started
: > all over.
: > : I can add the printer using the Add Printer function fine, but
still
: > have the
: > : same errors and cannot print.
: > :
: > : There are other goings-on that might help resolve this for me and
: > others,
: > : all new. I installed Microsoft Antispyware Beta. For the past few
: > years, I
: > : have run Ad-Aware (free version), PestPatrol. In that past few
months,
: > I
: > : replaced PestPatrol (which always worked fabulously for me) with
: > Spybot, as
: > : PP was getting long in tooth and I did not want to shell out to
get an
: > : updated version, and had been reading a lot of bad stuff about it.
: > That
: > : seemed to work fine as well. But since installed MAB, I have had
other
: > : weirdness going on with my system. I uninstalled Spybot to use it,
but
: > have
: > : since uninstalled MAB and gone back to Spybot in case MAB had
somehow
: > : contributed to this printing problem.
: > :
: > : Next, I decided to upgrade to Ad-Aware Plus. In my view, big
mistake.
: > I have
: > : not only had performance issues since installing it (especially
with
: > : Ad-Watch). I recently wrote to Lavasoft after reading Microsoft's
: > basic
: > : indictment of the product when sending an error report after a Not
: > Responding
: > : problem, but have heard nothing back except to reinstall it.
: > :
: > : There's more -- and this might be tell-tale, although I don't know
: > what to
: > : do about it. I was given a gift from Scansoft of Dragon Naturally
: > Speaking 7
: > : about a year ago (I am a global IT strategy director for a large
: > engineering
: > : services company) for trying out its PDF conversion program (which
is
: > quite
: > : good, by the way), but had never installed it until a few weeks
ago
: > (note how
: > : all this timing seems to point back to a few weeks ago). Thinking
this
: > might
: > : be a part of the problems I've been having (and I have one more to
: > relate
: > : yet), I tried to uninstall it. IMPOSSIBLE, and I know what I'm
doing.
: > The
: > : Add/Remove always asks for the CD to do the uninstall, and the CD
: > never does
: > : anything but reinstall -- there is no uninstall option! So
finally, I
: > did
: > : what I hate to do -- simply trashed the folders and let the
registry
: > cleaners
: > : go at it. (In my view, this is a very inefficient way of
uninstalling
: > : software.)
: > :
: > : OK. You get the picture so far. Can no longer print to the network
: > printer.
: > : Couple other facts: I can print just fine from the local machine
to
: > the
: > : printer. However, I cannot print from the OTHER computer I have
either
: > any
: > : more, as I can't even get on the home network with it any more,
and
: > I've done
: > : NOTHING to that machine -- no software adds, no utilities, no
: > removals,
: > : nothing. It just will no longer connect to the network unless I
: > disable
: > : security (128 WAP -- nothing dramatic). So THAT machine might be a
: > whole
: > : different issue -- but I knew someone would ask if I can print
from
: > it.
: > :
: > : NOW, the OTHER problem I am having is with IE6 SP1, and this
started
: > during
: > : this time as well. (Btw, while I get no error msg attempting to
print
: > frome
: > : IE, it does not print, either.) Somewhere between the first and
fifth
: > attempt
: > : to access an internet page each time I restart my machine now, the
: > progress
: > : bar will fill all the way up, then the system will just STOP DEAD
for
: > between
: > : 2.5 and 3 minutes (I am not sure the time is esp meaningful, as I
: > suspect it
: > : is a function of the processor being used), then finally release
and
: > all is
: > : well. During that time, EVERYTHING stops. I can't click any icons
in
: > the
: > : taskbar, cannot bring up Task Manager -- if I hadn't watched it
come
: > back to
: > : life about 100 times now, I would swear it is just the old Windows
: > lockup
: > : problem and reboot. But it DOES come back to life, and is just
fine
: > when it
: > : does. I cannot fathom what is causing this, but I have my
suspicions
: > about
: > : all the antivirus, antispam, antispy stuff I've described -- along
: > with the
: > : Dragon stuff. Something is trying to do something (or maybe a lot
of
: > things
: > : are trying to do something) and they just sort of lock horns for a
: > while.
: > :
: > : ANYHOW, can anyone help me? I have been spending hours per day (I
am
: > on
: > : disability so have the time) trying to resolve this, and it is
making
: > me
: > : crazy that I can't print. (I think I also have a network problem
per
: > the
: > : above but don't think that is the problem here -- although I could
be
: > wrong).
: > :
: > : I have set up the network again, I have reinstalled the router
again,
: > etc. I
: > : can't think of anything I've not tried.
: > :
: > : One last thing: I made what I now consider to be the HUGE mistake
of
: > : installing and using TweakUI for XP on both this laptop AND the
: > machine that
: > : houses the printer. Immediately after installation, I had
problems on
: > both
: > : machines accessing the Windows Update stuff -- only to learn
TweakUI
: > had
: > : installed Group Policy settings that were keeping the Update stuff
: > from
: > : working! Earlier, I wrote to this group asking if there was a way
to
: > return
: > : all TweakUI settings to their original default upon install, and
was
: > told
: > : there was not. I have a feeling this MIGHT be playing into this,
but
: > have no
: > : clue how. I have explored every Group setting that I can think of
that
: > might
: > : be stopping this to no avail, but by no means have I explored all
of
: > them.
: > : DAMN those who put out utilities with no means of recovery when a
: > problem
: > : ensues immediately post-install!
: > :
: > : Well, there it is. A lot of info from someone who "just" can't
print
: > over
: > : the network any more. But I figured putting as much detail in now
: > might help
: > : those with a mind to try to help me, and save a bunch of postings.
I
: > am more
: > : than willing to discuss things or try things suggested by anyone
who
: > will
: > : stand on a hill in front of firing squads on all sides and swear
they
: > know
: > : what they are talking about.
: > :
: > : Please, one last thing: If you are having some other problem and
this
: > is
: > : kind of like it but different, please don't use my post to tell
about
: > your
: > : problems UNLESS THEY ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT I'VE WRITTEN
HERE,
: > but post
: > : separately. Sorry to be selfish about it, but I need answers and
: > suggestions
: > : to this problem.
: > :
: > : Thanks.
: > :
: > : Bill F
: >
: >
: >
July 6, 2005 7:09:09 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

The Printer Spooler has stop running and I can not install a printer or print
a document how do I disable Windows 2000 and NT Driver from XP

"Tom Ferguson" wrote:

> Do all three computers on the network use Windows XP? Is System Restore
> enabled on all three? If so, check to see if you have restore dates
> available that precede the onset of printing problems. Restore all three
> systems to the most suitable date.
>
> Let us know.
>
> Tom
> MSMVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Bill F" <BillF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:82939DAA-846F-44B1-AB8E-7E8C1326BB61@microsoft.com...
> :I have a 3-computer home workgroup that connects to the internet via a
> : Netgear router. I have a Lexmark X74-75 printer/scanner/copier that is
> : connect to one of those computers, and that computer is connected
> directly to
> : the router. The other two computers print to the Lexmark via sharing.
> This
> : setup has been working without issue for about 2 years, but in the
> past week,
> : everything seems to have gone to hell, including the ability to print.
> This
> : description may be a little long, but I have to be everything I am
> about to
> : relate is somehow connected. I will do my best to also advise what I
> have
> : installed, removed, etc., during that period.
> :
> : First, to printing from the machine I am writing this on, a Dell D600
> : laptop. While I can see the printer over the network, and can even
> explore
> : the properties, when I try to print now, it comes back with an error
> message
> : dependent on what app I am trying to print from. Office apps tell me
> the
> : printer is not available. Notepad tells me there is an invalid handle.
> : Acrobat says some other error occurred, etc. I have uninstalled and
> : reinstalled the driver about 1000 times, and have done so by letting
> the
> : network printer install it (which it does just fine) and by installing
> via
> : the Lexmark CD that came with the printer. I have removed everything
> on my
> : system related to Lexmark (which is one helluva chore!), including
> (finally)
> : getting rid of the LexBce server that wasn't allowing me to use the
> print
> : spooler any more or install printers. I removed everything -- every
> printer
> : driver, every printer and faux printer (eFax, PDF writer, etc) using
> : Microsoft's KB as guidance. I then cleaned up the registry using a
> : combination of Ace Utilities, RegSeeker and RegScrubXP, and started
> all over.
> : I can add the printer using the Add Printer function fine, but still
> have the
> : same errors and cannot print.
> :
> : There are other goings-on that might help resolve this for me and
> others,
> : all new. I installed Microsoft Antispyware Beta. For the past few
> years, I
> : have run Ad-Aware (free version), PestPatrol. In that past few months,
> I
> : replaced PestPatrol (which always worked fabulously for me) with
> Spybot, as
> : PP was getting long in tooth and I did not want to shell out to get an
> : updated version, and had been reading a lot of bad stuff about it.
> That
> : seemed to work fine as well. But since installed MAB, I have had other
> : weirdness going on with my system. I uninstalled Spybot to use it, but
> have
> : since uninstalled MAB and gone back to Spybot in case MAB had somehow
> : contributed to this printing problem.
> :
> : Next, I decided to upgrade to Ad-Aware Plus. In my view, big mistake.
> I have
> : not only had performance issues since installing it (especially with
> : Ad-Watch). I recently wrote to Lavasoft after reading Microsoft's
> basic
> : indictment of the product when sending an error report after a Not
> Responding
> : problem, but have heard nothing back except to reinstall it.
> :
> : There's more -- and this might be tell-tale, although I don't know
> what to
> : do about it. I was given a gift from Scansoft of Dragon Naturally
> Speaking 7
> : about a year ago (I am a global IT strategy director for a large
> engineering
> : services company) for trying out its PDF conversion program (which is
> quite
> : good, by the way), but had never installed it until a few weeks ago
> (note how
> : all this timing seems to point back to a few weeks ago). Thinking this
> might
> : be a part of the problems I've been having (and I have one more to
> relate
> : yet), I tried to uninstall it. IMPOSSIBLE, and I know what I'm doing.
> The
> : Add/Remove always asks for the CD to do the uninstall, and the CD
> never does
> : anything but reinstall -- there is no uninstall option! So finally, I
> did
> : what I hate to do -- simply trashed the folders and let the registry
> cleaners
> : go at it. (In my view, this is a very inefficient way of uninstalling
> : software.)
> :
> : OK. You get the picture so far. Can no longer print to the network
> printer.
> : Couple other facts: I can print just fine from the local machine to
> the
> : printer. However, I cannot print from the OTHER computer I have either
> any
> : more, as I can't even get on the home network with it any more, and
> I've done
> : NOTHING to that machine -- no software adds, no utilities, no
> removals,
> : nothing. It just will no longer connect to the network unless I
> disable
> : security (128 WAP -- nothing dramatic). So THAT machine might be a
> whole
> : different issue -- but I knew someone would ask if I can print from
> it.
> :
> : NOW, the OTHER problem I am having is with IE6 SP1, and this started
> during
> : this time as well. (Btw, while I get no error msg attempting to print
> frome
> : IE, it does not print, either.) Somewhere between the first and fifth
> attempt
> : to access an internet page each time I restart my machine now, the
> progress
> : bar will fill all the way up, then the system will just STOP DEAD for
> between
> : 2.5 and 3 minutes (I am not sure the time is esp meaningful, as I
> suspect it
> : is a function of the processor being used), then finally release and
> all is
> : well. During that time, EVERYTHING stops. I can't click any icons in
> the
> : taskbar, cannot bring up Task Manager -- if I hadn't watched it come
> back to
> : life about 100 times now, I would swear it is just the old Windows
> lockup
> : problem and reboot. But it DOES come back to life, and is just fine
> when it
> : does. I cannot fathom what is causing this, but I have my suspicions
> about
> : all the antivirus, antispam, antispy stuff I've described -- along
> with the
> : Dragon stuff. Something is trying to do something (or maybe a lot of
> things
> : are trying to do something) and they just sort of lock horns for a
> while.
> :
> : ANYHOW, can anyone help me? I have been spending hours per day (I am
> on
> : disability so have the time) trying to resolve this, and it is making
> me
> : crazy that I can't print. (I think I also have a network problem per
> the
> : above but don't think that is the problem here -- although I could be
> wrong).
> :
> : I have set up the network again, I have reinstalled the router again,
> etc. I
> : can't think of anything I've not tried.
> :
> : One last thing: I made what I now consider to be the HUGE mistake of
> : installing and using TweakUI for XP on both this laptop AND the
> machine that
> : houses the printer. Immediately after installation, I had problems on
> both
> : machines accessing the Windows Update stuff -- only to learn TweakUI
> had
> : installed Group Policy settings that were keeping the Update stuff
> from
> : working! Earlier, I wrote to this group asking if there was a way to
> return
> : all TweakUI settings to their original default upon install, and was
> told
> : there was not. I have a feeling this MIGHT be playing into this, but
> have no
> : clue how. I have explored every Group setting that I can think of that
> might
> : be stopping this to no avail, but by no means have I explored all of
> them.
> : DAMN those who put out utilities with no means of recovery when a
> problem
> : ensues immediately post-install!
> :
> : Well, there it is. A lot of info from someone who "just" can't print
> over
> : the network any more. But I figured putting as much detail in now
> might help
> : those with a mind to try to help me, and save a bunch of postings. I
> am more
> : than willing to discuss things or try things suggested by anyone who
> will
> : stand on a hill in front of firing squads on all sides and swear they
> know
> : what they are talking about.
> :
> : Please, one last thing: If you are having some other problem and this
> is
> : kind of like it but different, please don't use my post to tell about
> your
> : problems UNLESS THEY ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT I'VE WRITTEN HERE,
> but post
> : separately. Sorry to be selfish about it, but I need answers and
> suggestions
> : to this problem.
> :
> : Thanks.
> :
> : Bill F
>
>
>
Anonymous
July 6, 2005 11:25:37 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax (More info?)

"Bill F" <BillF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D1E2BAA-C205-40B5-AD4F-8501157069F6@microsoft.com...
> Tom,
>
> I have finally resolved the problem and can again print from the laptop to
> the shared printer. Virtually everything I wrote about came into play in
> one
> way or another, and I basically spent the whole weekend immersed in the
> KBs
> and the registry and services. Finally about 10 minutes ago, I was able to
> print again. I will now add each thing back one-at-a-time and see if
> anything
> impacts my ability to print, and if so, will post that here.
>
> If you or any reader would like more details, let me know. I feel like I
> am
> now a quasi-expert on this topic.
>
snip>>

Hi Bill:

I am having similar problems i.e. unable to print from laptop (wireless) to
a shared printer (HP 930c). Can print from desktop to printer (hard wired).
When
trying to test print from the laptop using Notepad I get an 'Invalid Handle'
message. The frustrating thing is I have been printing from the laptop
flawlessly for a year or more, a day or two ago I had the problem. Like you
I have been exploring all possible sources but unlike you, no success as
yet.

Laptop and desktop communicate for file sharing without problems and
connecting to web only problem is sharing the printer.
When setting up the laptop for printer sharing, the laptop can 'see' the
printer on the desktop.
A curious thing, I did a 'System Restore' on the laptop and a test print
worked without problems but the second time I tried I was back to the
'Invalid Handle' message.

I would appreciate any advice/assistance you can provide.
!