Opinion on God

<b>Opinion on God</b>
I am interested guys, so no flaming pls

The governor of Minnesota felt the same way, at least, he did during the interview.

I've been excommunicated since I was born

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I'm surprised to see that the majority of the people think religion is a joke. It's nice to see that computer nerds aren't dillusional. We're the smartest people in the world!!! Hehe.

-MP Jesse

"Signatures Suck"

'Religion is poison?' Or 'Organized religion is for the weak minded?'

'Religion is a crutch for the weak-minded'.

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Well damn i like calculators oh well cant be perfect =)

SPUDMUFFIN

<font color=blue>Just some advice from your friendly neighborhood blue man </font color=blue>

No you are not going to be kicked out just kicked bad

Well, you are looking at a person who takes religion as a weak-minder AFTER they accept religion. What we are talking about weak minder is those who look at religion BEFORE they accpet religion. They could dtand for themselves emotionally without the presence of God, and therefore they are strong. There is a difference between the weaks you are talking about. Those who cannot stand for themselves, and thsoe who cannot THINK. Perhaps you are referring to the latter.

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I'm currently in the 'Religon is Poison' stage myself. Let's see.....we've got Jews and Muslims killing each other, Hindu and Muslims killing each other. We had Christians and Muslims killing each other (still do, just not as publicized). I haven't heard much out the Taoists and Buddahists lately, though. They must be on vacation.

Flipping through my European History books reveals the Jews and Muslims have been killing each other since dirt formed (rounding up), Hindu and Muslims started killing each other on a regular basis about 60 years ago, and Christians and Muslims have been killing each other for a little over 1200 years.

Not including sects, did I miss anyone?

Yeah, Buddhism gets checked by the whole 'reincarnation' thing, which is a good call really. What if the 'Bible code' came up with Jews are reincarnated as Muslims, Christians reincarnated as Jews, and Muslims reincarnated as Christians. That would really mess things up, because they could kill their own and call it 'retroactive'?

The sad fact of the matter is that there is no one true religion, if people were not warring over religion there would be something else.

I also cant stand the fact that some people get religion crammed down thier throats. It's no doubt why some people are totally warped.

However it takes someone equally as weak minded to believe we all came from a spark of lightning in the water. There is no explanation for the origin of life from dead chemicals.

In most religions they claim someone or something formed this world from nothing. The world was a lifeless chaos, then(insert your favorite supreme being here) gave life to the world. Scientists back this claim with the exception of the how it happened. The truth is there will never be a scientific explanation.

There is a difference between believers and fanatics. I dont think someone should be categorized as weak minded just because they chose to believe in a higher power.

Well I've rambled enough

So really what your saying is anyone who belongs to a gang . as its just a prettier form of a gang?

is weak minded?

so anyone who regulary visits here could be called part of gang
playing in a clan on q3 ? having poker night

hanging with a certain group of friends?

they are all gangs just differing aspects of it

If it brings happiness to there lives to 'belong' to something does not mean nessicarily they are weak minded.
to stereotype anyone in any group because u dont happen to agree with that group in my opinion is weak minded.
and to waste time ridiculing them shows your even weaker than they are. for you must fear something about it, to take time out and insult them.

If someone asks me my opinion on it, ill state it. i do not have to go out of my way to insult there way of life.
Is there choice, as it is yours not to be in it.

They have there reasons to belong. As u have yours to belong to something else.

By the way isnt aimed at the guy this just happened tobe the last button on the thread so why i clicked this one.

this is an over all statement to those who findit nessicary to ridicule everyone's belief system. because it doesnt coincide with there own.

Remember this. everyone has been insulted for who they are at somepoint in time in there lives. try doing the world a favour and remember how that felt.

Um i might remind folks of dinosaurs. What your god got bored and wanted to try something new before he made us? Mwhahahahahahahahah the bible states that man was made first well who the [-peep-] were the dino's hmm a god freakshow??? Give me a break we started from the big bang and thats the end of it. And what about monkeys hmm they are use but not so evolovled. Oh well im tired and had enough theology for today night folks.

(The Universe will colapse on itself one day so all yer gods work will be invane. See ya in hell)

SPUDMUFFIN

<font color=blue>Just some advice from your friendly neighborhood blue man </font color=blue>

My whole point is that if someone believes that there is some higher power out there that created this world, it is equally as improbable as the scientific theory. I was defending the beliefs of some people. There are weak minds on both sides of the coin.

<i>If you take a truth and follow it blindly, it will become a Falsehood and you a Fanatic.</i>

Humans like you think they are just sooooo smart. Well, as an anthropology major/ religion minor I can honestly say that I don't buy any one story especially once I know the stories that the bible (for example) ripped off to write their version. I mean Zoasters (some guy long before christ) birth was almost identical to Jesus' and flood stories etc. etc. But then Genesis does mention real cities that we have found.

My point is is that I, unlike the "strong minded" aka. closed minded machow am not so conceded to think that we in our "infinite wisdom" are bright enough to really comprehend things out side of our happy little 4 dementions.

I believe in a conglomerate of science and faith, because: Here's the kicker for me. As a human I can not comprehend anything that never began, and anyone who says they can really hasn't thought about it that long. Our western concept of time is so linial that we just can't see it. So if matter is never created nor distroyed in the "natural" world then, since to me everything has to start in order to be, something "supernatural" must have begun the whole universe thing in the first place or at least something out of our perceived dimentions- and no a tesseract doesn't count either.

I don't pretend to know what started it, or really care one way or another. The fact is we're here. Science, as much stock as we put in it, really just makes everything that much more difficult; the "easier" we make things the more complicated they get.

Maybe there's a lot less chaos in the big bang theory than we think. Maybe all things happen and form as intended, but I seriously doubt direct intervention. But anyone who thinks we didn't come from apes is flat out wrong. But again- that's just my oppinion.

ILLEGALISE BULLETS

wusy, If you think you were posting good posts for the first 700 posts of your life and found nothing post thereafter, stop posting! It is normal to have nothing to say because every human being in the world have limited capabilities. If you want to be the eternal Eternal poster, and do not want to have anyone to come close, please, I shall say "Too Bad", because you are just running out of god ideas. Every good leader ends up that way.

By the way, GOd by definition is God because people acknowledge He. The only person who acknowledge you as God is yourself, therefore you are not qualified as God. Now get lost.

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There's a real good chance I'm whiter than him. Although, I think I got enough sun today to even the odds a little.

I bet I can still drink him under the table, though.

the guy was just wondering!!! stop all this crap!!! everyone has their own beliefs!! not one of you is going to change it.

I don't know English

Hmm. I'm confused. This thread is about God, and you seem to have change it. So, something outside the natural realm causes the creation of the world? I agree, and therefore God wasn't really involved in the creation of the world. We call things supernatural because we cannot understand some natural phenomena because we have limited knowledge. If you were to travel with time machine and go back to the human civilization of 50,000 years ago we would be deemed God because we could trick them with our knowledge about science. Similiarly, if a human from 50,000 years later came, armed with the knowledge of his time, he would be deemed God by us. (So, was Jesus a person of 50,000 AD travelling back to 0 AD? Hmmm...)

It seems we agree upon the supernatural force and not supreme being, and therefore God cannot be proven to exist.

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Pretty much does away with Chaos Theory, hunh? That would be nice, one big friggin' algorithm. But all the philosophers and theologians would be SOL (out of a job), and that would destabilize the fabric of reality as we know it. Maybe it's better than we never try to compute it.....

By the way isnt aimed at the guy this just happened tobe the last button on the thread so why i clicked this one.

this is an over all statement to those who findit nessicary to ridicule everyone's belief system. because it doesnt coincide with there own.


^As i said wasn't aimed at you.^ just the last button

No nobody can prove god can exist. But you cannot disprove it either. The best explanation man has against the theory of a higher power is evolution.

Fossils, our only proof of prehistoric life, do not have any evidence of transition. All manner of species appear on the scene fully evolved, there is no link between current man and neanderthals or apes. It's like we have the leaves of the tree without the branches and trunk.

For all our intelligence we still cannot find a way to create life from dead matter. It is a Fact that the matter on this planet was once all dead.

I once questioned my faith, I read and studied the alternatives out there. I can now say I dont trust my beliefs in any one particular diety. But something made this world and it sure wasn't some giant explosion or a spark of lightning in some primordial ooze.

<i>If you take a truth and follow it blindly, it will become a Falsehood and you a Fanatic.</i>

A bit of the god topic but still within the bounds of Relegion (kind of).

Did you know if around 10,000 people claim to be part of a new relegion, it is accepted by government. Apparantly in newzealand there is a Jedi Religion.

may the force be with you... ;-)


<i><b><font color=red>"2 is not equal to 3, not even for large values of 2"</font color=red></b></i>

when you say "living" you mean procreating, right? didn't think so. the THEORY of evolution is not an argument against the existance of God. it may be an argument against sunday school Christianity that literally interprets the Genesis account as scientific explanation, but talk to any christian scholar that actually deals with higher criticism and they'll laugh at you. evolution is just as based in the real world as the Genesis account was. really, what you have is people digging up bones and ascribing meaning and history to the things they find. is there any hard evidence such as a history of DNA mutations that yields a new creature? no. we see bones and try to make suggestions about how they came to be and why they may be alike. the same thing took place when people were coming up with the stories in the book of Genesis. but since we're smarter and far more advanced we have the TRUTH about the world.

<font color=red>yeah baby, my kung fu's the best...</font color=red>

Hey, it wasn't my experiment. No I don't mean procreating, just starting out is all, procreating comes later. I'm not saying evolution is the answer, but I'm also not so reliant on the newest fads (aka DNA testing) to say that we can't be sure of modern mans evolution from homo erectus. And I'm not arguing against god either, I'm just arguing with the other guys points. Evolution, for all its holes is still more real world than genesis, sorry. As far as the Truth goes, we don't know, I sure don't know and if you read my earlier posts you'd see that I'm pretty open on the subject. I can really argue either side, but if we had "ooze" becoming acids becoming more complex protien strands, well I'd say that there is some proof to support some of evolutionary theory. Sure a lot of it's bunk, but it opens up a new demention to it all. You obviously just read the last post though so have no basis on which to refute my claims. I've listened to christian scholars (though no hope in getting a non-bias oppinion from them) and some of what they say has merit and I give them that, but I'm not refeuting the bible by quoting evolution. Sure what we have is people ascribing meaning to bones- what christian scholars have is a book written by a hand full of uneducated guys 2000 years ago, that has been picked apart through the centuries, throwing out any other gospels that don't furthur the cause, about ancient cities (at least the ones in the bible existed- ever try to find a city from the book of Mormon, good luck on that one) and some guy who went out into the desert without food and water for a month on his spirit quest, which would cause any one to be deluded, and came back saying, oh by the way I'm the son of god now. Now I may believe he was, but not from any proof. So he did a few miracles, oddly enough everyone did miracles back then. They were VERY common place. Every saint had what at least 3? What about those poor guys that only had one? The bible and arguments based on it are so out there it's just silly. Either you buy it or you don't, but the bible provides nothing but a chunk of fantastic stories. The romans worshiped Greek culture and the writings of Homer etc. Really there's not much difference.
Anyway the bones ARE alike and well documented. Arguing all of history from a book that's no more than 3-4000 years old and younger, that was written and constantly edited in a time when the world was flat and monsters freely roamed the earth and the sun rotated around us is ludacris. Believe as you will, but don't try to bring fact/truth into organized religion. We know only what we can attest to, the rest is personal belief.

My Jesus is whiter than your Jesus.