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October 2, 2012 12:18:50 AM

Hey everyone! I have some extra cash after building my rig and I've decided to buy some stuff from the guy who put my computer together for me. I got a used Razer Lycosa & Abyssus for $60, and I just picked up a Razer Nostromo. I'm also using a Rocketfish Wired Gaming Headset (PC, XBOX 360, PS3, & iPod/Cell Phone). I love the equipment in my arsenal and thinking about getting some more stuff like I gotten the Nostromo for Star Wars: The Old Republic and other RPG's like Diablo 1-3. I play on my desktop but when I go out of town for a few days (4-6 times a year) I use my old laptop with 1.8 GHz single core so I play old games (Diablo 1, Star Wars Commandos, ect).

So, what do you have in your arsenal? Any advice on what I should I get? Such as a back up keyboard, mouse, headset, ect. Or what type of a mouse pad? Even for the laptop. I might take my Nostromo and Abyssus with me but not sure. Any advice or why you have it and like it in your arsenal would be much apperciated and will help me what I want to get. Thanks in advance. =)

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October 2, 2012 12:26:38 AM

I used to use the Belkin Nostromo n52, which I believe was bought by Razer, so it's pretty much what I used to use. It's not bad, but I prefer the G13. The main advantage is the Lua script options for the G13, which allowed me to do something that always annoyed me to no end about the Nostromo; I can program it to do a shift state change from my mouse button. Now pushing a thumb button on my mouse gives me 2-3 times more hotkeys than I had with the nostromo. Of course this takes advanced programing, but I made a fairly easy to use template script which makes all adjustments easy, including advanced macroing beyond what can normally be done (and some automated scripting, which shouldn't be done).

I also have a 3D Vision monitor, which is quite awesome on the games that support it.

I also have a Thrustmaster driving wheel for games like Dirt 2 & 3. It really adds a lot for driving games.

My mouse is a MS Sidewinder x8

My keyboard is a logitech G110, which ties into the macroing abilities of the G13.
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October 2, 2012 12:43:20 AM

I have a Razer Deathadder, and a few days ago my friend gave me a Lycosa if I set my Facebook profile picture/wallpaper thing to the NVidia icon. He get's mad at me because my video card is AMD.
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October 2, 2012 4:48:52 AM

get a wheel if you have the funds. logitech g27, best on the market.
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October 2, 2012 5:32:05 AM

Bystander - I tried the G13 out and didn't like it to much. Felt weird and was a bit hard to hit some of those buttons. The Nostromo on the other hand feels more like keyboard to me while I'm able to hit those keys just in the nick of time. But I might get and try the G13 then trying a demo in the store for my laptop. How is the Sidewinder x8? The only MS product I used was an old Sidewinder with a game port. How's the driving wheel as well? And G110 is pretty good as well?

Voiidwulf - I'm thinking about getting the Deathadder as a nice back up/laptop mouse. What do you think about it? And haha, I have a AMD GPU too but thinking about switching NVidia. =)

Tjosborne - That wheel looks very nice and pro active for my racing game. And my funds is bascially unlimited, so money isn't an issue for me. =)

Any of you guys use a gaming mouse pad or just a regular cheap one? =3
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October 2, 2012 6:11:25 AM

In terms of the keys themselves, the Nostromo is more ergonomically sound, though the G13 isn't bad as long as you don't try to use the 1 and 2 G buttons as primary hotkeys. The main reason I prefer the G13 is that through the use of creative scripting, I was able to change M state modes (what the Nostromo calls a Shift State) by pressing my thumb buttons on my mouse. That ability is huge to me. Without it, shift states are too difficulty to effectively use, but with it, depending on whether I press a thumb button or not, I can have 2 or 3 times more hotkeys. This was especially big when I used to play WoW.
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October 2, 2012 6:18:26 AM

bystander said:
In terms of the keys themselves, the Nostromo is more ergonomically sound, though the G13 isn't bad as long as you don't try to use the 1 and 2 G buttons as primary hotkeys. The main reason I prefer the G13 is that through the use of creative scripting, I was able to change M state modes (what the Nostromo calls a Shift State) by pressing my thumb buttons on my mouse. That ability is huge to me. Without it, shift states are too difficulty to effectively use, but with it, depending on whether I press a thumb button or not, I can have 2 or 3 times more hotkeys. This was especially big when I used to play WoW.


It diffently is. But hey, what appeals to you may not appeal to me as well. But your suggestion is also helpful if I decide to get a back up or something for the laptop when I go out of town. I play a lot of Diablo 1 & 2, don't have 3 yet, and sounds like my Nostromo. I use key 2 as key 1 for SWTOR but use key 6 as my shift, as I can move around pretty good. Which is nice. But I'm not willing to pack it just yet, and I'll get myself a G13 to test out, see if it's worthy as a backup even. Thanks again for your suggestion as well. =)
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October 2, 2012 6:25:28 AM

Adsuki said:
It diffently is. But hey, what appeals to you may not appeal to me as well. But your suggestion is also helpful if I decide to get a back up or something for the laptop when I go out of town. I play a lot of Diablo 1 & 2, don't have 3 yet, and sounds like my Nostromo. I use key 2 as key 1 for SWTOR but use key 6 as my shift, as I can move around pretty good. Which is nice. But I'm not willing to pack it just yet, and I'll get myself a G13 to test out, see if it's worthy as a backup even. Thanks again for your suggestion as well. =)


Now, when trying to use your 6 button to shift state, do you find it rather restrictive when trying to push other buttons while trying to hold that button 6 down? That was what I hated.

As far as how I programmed my thumb buttons to shift states, you'll likely need my script, which will likely seem overwhelming at first, but I could show you a basic script just for that purpose if you like. As for the template I use, this is it. Keep in mind it is a work in progress:
http://www.logitechusers.com/game-profiles-macros-discu...

There are two ways you can use my script to allow the thumb button to do its thing. First, I have a function designed to actually change the M states on the G13, the other method will just load a different set of hotkeys when the button is pressed. Both work. Ask for help if you decide to try it out.
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October 2, 2012 6:36:00 AM

Nope, not really. My pinky is always on the shift key and I just put my hand on it to see which buttons rested on it like on my keyboard, so I programmed it like it. Feels nice too. That might be why I didn't like how the G13 felt, I couldn't figure out how I could rest my palm and fingers onto it. I was also rushed a bit but I'll hit Frys again this week or next week and study it more when I have time. And I'll also give your script a try as well if I do get one. Again, thank you very much. =)
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October 2, 2012 8:45:52 AM

Gaming keyboards? Gaming Mice?

This is what I'm beating all of you guys with! :p 
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October 2, 2012 2:04:18 PM

pff, you cannot possibly beat the great shiny over 9000++ dpi razer-shmazer super awesome ubelievable marketing gimmic mouse with those cheap0 peripherals! [/joke]

on the other hand, your wrist space is non existent, how long do you game before your hands start to hurt?

I use an abyssus (which I'm honestly not that thrilled about) and a regular chiklet keyboard. Seems to work just fine, need to buy a separate mic as the built-in has some significant noise issues. (which reminds me *runs off to amazon*)
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October 3, 2012 12:33:20 AM

Adsuki said:
Bystander - I tried the G13 out and didn't like it to much. Felt weird and was a bit hard to hit some of those buttons. The Nostromo on the other hand feels more like keyboard to me while I'm able to hit those keys just in the nick of time. But I might get and try the G13 then trying a demo in the store for my laptop. How is the Sidewinder x8? The only MS product I used was an old Sidewinder with a game port. How's the driving wheel as well? And G110 is pretty good as well?

Voiidwulf - I'm thinking about getting the Deathadder as a nice back up/laptop mouse. What do you think about it? And haha, I have a AMD GPU too but thinking about switching NVidia. =)

Tjosborne - That wheel looks very nice and pro active for my racing game. And my funds is bascially unlimited, so money isn't an issue for me. =)

Any of you guys use a gaming mouse pad or just a regular cheap one? =3


The Deathadder is quite nice. It's really comfortable.

I'm not even using a mouse pad right now, I should probably get one though.
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October 3, 2012 2:19:17 AM

i use a razer sphex mousepad, not expensive at all and its a thin piece of vinyl like material that sticks to your desk, almost like not even using a mousepad.
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October 3, 2012 8:27:26 AM

Have gone through endless razer mice, the pads on the razer mice i'm not keen on...

I use a razer goliathus mouse pad (huge thing)
swapped my deathadder for a good ol' war horse - mx518. Easily the best mouse ever made, cost $30 has multiple buttons and can wreck heads in cs.
I use a razer lycosa keyboard - has no fancy scripting crap but I like the touch pad music changer etc...
the almighty ath ad 700 head set, best headset ever used hands down!
been through a couple sennheiser headsets in my FPS rage days, paying hundreds for something you throw down is not an ideal thing ^^
use a zalman clip on mic to go with the head set - $10 amazon
AND got a mini-fridge of dr. pepper, beat that !
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October 3, 2012 8:54:41 AM

Right now: Logitech G3//Logitech G11//Logitech Rumble pad (the old version)//Roccat Taito mouse pad.

No i dont work for logitech :D .

Planned in the future: Custom made mice (Logitech mini optical with laser sensor)//Corsair vengance or steelseries mechanical keyboard (6Gv2 or something like that)//i stay with my rumble pad//Allsoap or sharkoon XL black Mat.

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October 3, 2012 1:53:36 PM

voiidwulf said:
The Deathadder is quite nice. It's really comfortable.

I'm not even using a mouse pad right now, I should probably get one though.


you should definitely get a mousepad, just for the sake of keeping your mouse feet cleaner and not rubbing the dirt into the surface of whatever you're using the mouse on. (mousemat is a lot easier to clean/replace)
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October 3, 2012 3:09:01 PM

Razer is extremely overpriced and gimmicky. I would recommend the Kova+ over the Deathadder anyday. I use it and it's an amazing inexpensive mouse. Roccat makes solid products.

Get a cheap mousepad. All they do is allow for a smooth glide when moving your mouse around. Unless the tracking sensor on the mouse is very bad, I wouldn't spend more than $10 on a mousepad.
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October 3, 2012 3:28:22 PM

I dont like mices like razer myself. Not because they are overpriced (if its worth it, i pay it), but because they are so huge that is hard to move them with good precision with high sensitivity (i dont like low sensitivity because it means moving your wrist and arm instead of fingers and wrist, getting you more tired).
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October 3, 2012 3:42:25 PM

cats_Paw said:
I dont like mices like razer myself. Not because they are overpriced (if its worth it, i pay it), but because they are so huge that is hard to move them with good precision with high sensitivity (i dont like low sensitivity because it means moving your wrist and arm instead of fingers and wrist, getting you more tired).


Razer mice are actually fairly small. Also it doesn't make sense to want a smaller mouse when you use high sensitivity? I use low sensitivity and thus need a small lightweight mouse. Also I've never heard of someone getting tired from moving their wrist around :lol:  :)  .
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October 3, 2012 3:55:45 PM

thetechnoobguy said:
Razer mice are actually fairly small. Also it doesn't make sense to want a smaller mouse when you use high sensitivity? I use low sensitivity and thus need a small lightweight mouse. Also I've never heard of someone getting tired from moving their wrist around :lol:  :)  .


How does sensitivity and weight relate? You have a different preference than the other guy, but they really aren't related. How far you want to move the mouse for the same movement on the screen is one preference and how heavy the mouse is another.
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October 3, 2012 5:11:14 PM

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How does sensitivity and weight relate? You have a different preference than the other guy, but they really aren't related. How far you want to move the mouse for the same movement on the screen is one preference and how heavy the mouse is another.


If you use high dpi you want a heavy mouse that way you're not flinging it around easily. If you use low dpi like me you want something light that you can lift easily and move around easily.
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October 3, 2012 5:34:21 PM

thetechnoobguy said:
If you use high dpi you want a heavy mouse that way you're not flinging it around easily. If you use low dpi like me you want something light that you can lift easily and move around easily.

Sorry, but I personally do not choose how you do. Telling someone there wrong for not picking the way you do, especially when they aren't really related, is the only thing wrong.

Some people want to be able to swing their mouse all over the screen, they may like high sensitivity and a light mouse. I personally perfer more control, and have my sensitivity set relatively low at 1800 and have a heavy mouse. Having a mouse pad and mouse contacts which are sticky can be used to slow a mouse down too. There are too many personal choices, which all give each person the individual feel they like.
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October 3, 2012 6:28:09 PM

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Sorry, but I personally do not choose how you do. Telling someone there wrong for not picking the way you do, especially when they aren't really related, is the only thing wrong.

Some people want to be able to swing their mouse all over the screen, they may like high sensitivity and a light mouse. I personally perfer more control, and have my sensitivity set relatively low at 1800 and have a heavy mouse. Having a mouse pad and mouse contacts which are sticky can be used to slow a mouse down too. There are too many personal choices, which all give each person the individual feel they like.


They aren't wrong, but it's recommended based on common sense. Having more weight allows for more control, therefore it would help for higher dpi mouses. You honestly believe people want to be mindlesslely swinging their mouse around at 3200+dpi? Anyone who does that honestly is an idiot and I could guarantee you they aren't a good gamer. Since you use a fairly low DPI yet you have a heavy mouse that automatically tells me you wont be able to do many things as easily as I will such as doing a 180 degree turn for a character. You don't need to be physically moving your mouse around when you have high dpi because it does it for you on the screen, I don't know why that's so hard for you to understand. Who on earth would buy a sticky surfaced mouse pad, I don't think such a mouse pad even exists. Sticky mouse contacts? Seriously?
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October 3, 2012 6:42:22 PM

thetechnoobguy said:
They aren't wrong, but it's recommended based on common sense. Having more weight allows for more control, therefore it would help for higher dpi mouses. You honestly believe people want to be mindlesslely swinging their mouse around at 3200+dpi? Anyone who does that honestly is an idiot and I could guarantee you they aren't a good gamer. Since you use a fairly low DPI yet you have a heavy mouse that automatically tells me you wont be able to do many things as easily as I will such as doing a 180 degree turn for a character. You don't need to be physically moving your mouse around when you have high dpi because it does it for you on the screen, I don't know why that's so hard for you to understand. Who on earth would buy a sticky surfaced mouse pad, I don't think such a mouse pad even exists. Sticky mouse contacts? Seriously?


First off, almost no one uses a high DPI mouse for high DPI. So what if my mouse goes to 8000 dpi, they have settings to lower it. Also, every game is a bit different on how sensitive they are to your mouse. At 1800 DPI, I easily do 180 degree turns and if they don't, I up the DPI (new mice tend to let you easily change this on the mouse with a button). Another factor in how easily you can turn 180 degrees is how much mouse pad space you have. I use a larger mouse pad so I can move it further, easily.

There are also a number of different surfaces for mouse pads. I've used a variety over the years. There are some that are very slick, that are like a plastic surface. With the mouse pads that are slick in combination with this, you can move your mouse like it was on ice. There are others that are a thick cloth, which cause a lot of friction (what I meant by sticky).

How heavy your mouse is, is more about how strong your hands are, but again, a personal preference. Some of it is how you hold a mouse. A lot of people grip the mouse, and find that light mice will come off the surface, so they use a heavy one. Others barely put their hand on it, with their palm resting on the desk, these types often like light mice. I have an arm pad that lifts my arm off the desk, but I place my whole hand around the mouse, but lightly. I don't really care about the weight much, I manage just fine either way.

I could argue that a very sensitive mouse is better with a light mouse, if we use only logic. With a sensitive mouse, you won't be moving it very far, so you need to easily control the small movements. A lighter mouse would help with that.

Just use what you like. I'll use what I like. Grip, friction, hand strength, and general overall comfort value all play a part in the choice.
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October 3, 2012 7:45:56 PM

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Also, every game is a bit different on how sensitive they are to your mouse.

Not true at all games have nothing to do with your mouse sensitivity directly, game sensitivity and mouse sensitivty are completely different and what you said is false.
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Another factor in how easily you can turn 180 degrees is how much mouse pad space you have

The bigger the mouse pad you need the less skill you have imho.
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With the mouse pads that are slick in combination with this, you can move your mouse like it was on ice. There are others that are a thick cloth, which cause a lot of friction (what I meant by sticky).

Mice with ruberized grip work best (which are newer more expensive gaming mice) on "cloth" type fabric mousepads. I own both a slick and fabric type mouspad and my Kova+ doesn't glide properly on the slick one where as the fabric one is very smooth and accurate
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How heavy your mouse is, is more about how strong your hands are, but again, a personal preference.

What are you even talking about? If anyone is using excessive muscles in their hand to grip their mouse then they are doing it wrong. You don't need strength to use a mouse, you're suppose to use a delicate grip, you never see anyone clenching it, they are supported by a desk, in fact you use your wrist muscles more than you use the muscles in your hand. It's almost as if you're implying if you have strong hand muslces you're automatically always using them. I was right when I said heavy mouses are designed for those who use high dpi. Anyone who buys a heavy mouse because they think they have some superior hand strength shouldn't be buying gaming mice in the first place.

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A lot of people grip the mouse, and find that light mice will come off the surface, so they use a heavy one.

Yeah, I personally prefer mouses that I can lift up so that I can readjust it to the center

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Others barely put their hand on it, with their palm resting on the desk, these types often like light mice.

I have never heard of that and I would not recommend that at all unless you have some sort of disability that prevents you from properly gripping the mouse. I can't imagine how anyone can properly use a mouse with their palm on the desk/ mousepad, you can't even use your thumb.

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I could argue that a very sensitive mouse is better with a light mouse, if we use only logic. With a sensitive mouse, you won't be moving it very far, so you need to easily control the small movements. A lighter mouse would help with that.

This makes no sense and is completely illogical. You wont be moving it very far so you don't want something that's light because you'll be moving it to easily. Common sense.

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Just use what you like. I'll use what I like. Grip, friction, hand strength, and general overall comfort value all play a part in the choice.


Agreed, except for the hand strength part.
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October 3, 2012 8:07:36 PM

Well, either you are a troll, or just very narrow minded. Either way, I'm done.
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October 3, 2012 9:04:06 PM

thetechnoobguy, (if you're serious in your posts, ie not trolling) you might want to cool it a little, seeing how you're new here. I can see that you've very opinionated, yet all you have going for you is your personal experience and "logic."

Different people have different grips on the mouse, depending on that they prefer certain size and weight of the mouse. It also depends on what is the typical usage of the mouse, whether we are talking RTS or FPS gaming (as between those two preferences are pretty different). On top of that depending on how you prefer to hold and use your mouse will dictate what soft of DPI you prefer, and based on your DPI setting and your grip you will tend to prefer a larger or smaller mousing surface.

As bystander pointed out you're trying to connect two different things via completely wrong assumptions, which is why your "logic" doesn't make sense.

Read a few articles, do some research, and you'll be less agonized by somebody having a different view than yours.

PS> how you hold your mouse has nothing to do with how skilled you are at video games. :lol: 
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October 4, 2012 3:42:57 AM

I'm not new here, I have been here for over two years, on another account that I no longer use.

Sorry if I came off as an douche, however you're not doing a very good job to show that you aren't either. Calling me a troll and being a hypocrite aren't going to make your arguments any more credible. Although it's funny you would say I'm very opinionated while being very opinionated yourself. I will stand by that some things I said are not subjective. Such as if your palm is resting against your desk, you're going to have little to no control over the mouse and you're going to have a hard time doing well in any game, which is not an opinion, it's a fact. I actually thought that when bystander told me that some people use their mouse that way that he was trolling me.

I find it fascinating that you would take bystanders side when we were arguing in the same manner, double standard much?
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PS> how you hold your mouse has nothing to do with how skilled you are at video games.


So if I'm holding it the opposite way with the cord facing me it's not going to affect my or anyones performance at all?

Look, I'm good at video games, specifically FPS games. I've known many professional gamers and I could play professionally myself if I really wanted, although school is more important to me right now. You will find that professional gamers all play and hold their mouse very similarly. I've never met a professional gamer that uses any higher than 1600 dpi for example. Say what you will but at the end of the day I came into this thread to give advice based on how a professional gamer would play, not a casual one. I'm not here to fight, so if you're going to continue to provoke a flame war then I'm going to do the mature thing and leave.
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October 4, 2012 4:38:33 AM

You seem to be very confused. Earlier you said that I couldn't turn around 180 degrees because I used 1800 DPI, yet you are now telling me that no one good uses higher than 1600 DPI. The lower the number, the farther you have to move the mouse to get the same rotation. There are top gamers on this site that use a range of DPI settings, all the way up to 3000 DPI.

Also a number of games spin you at different speeds. Not all games use your mouse drivers the same way. I've written 180 degree spin programs/macros before and in some games, they read your mouse drivers for how far you move the mouse, and spin accordingly based on where the mouse moved to. Others will poll every couple milliseconds, and based on how fast the mouse was moving, will spin it a bit at a time, which won't allow for instant 180 turns (Skyrim, Oblivion and Rift do this, for example). Some will turn further around than others, based on different distances of the mouse. I typically adjust the mouse sensitivity in game so I don't have to on the mouse, but I've done both.

Anyways, you are clearly incapable of imagine any other thoughts but your own, or recognize that depending hand size, not everyone will hold the mouse the same, or just have different preferences.

Note: while I have written scripts to turn 180 degrees in a few games, I don't personally use them. I did it for some forum users on the logitech forums. I have used some of my mouse movement scripts for navigating the menu system in Skyrim, however, which is quite a lot trickier than other games due to the unusual way they use the mouse. I think it is partially related to it being a console port. It also moves your view, and mouse pointer, much slower than the average game, until I adjusted it's mouse sensitivity in game.
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October 4, 2012 6:20:26 AM

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You seem to be very confused. Earlier you said that I couldn't turn around 180 degrees because I used 1800 DPI, yet you are now telling me that no one good uses higher than 1600 DPI. The lower the number, the farther you have to move the mouse to get the same rotation. There are top gamers on this site that use a range of DPI settings, all the way up to 3000 DPI.

Show me where I said that. I said that it's harder for you than it would be for me because you apparently use a heavier mouse.

I am talking about professional gamers that enter tournaments and are paid. Tell me one professional player that uses higher than 1600 dpi? Most of the people I know use 800 dpi.
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Not all games use your mouse drivers the same way.

It's golden that you would call me a troll and then say things like this. I'm not even going to try and refute this anymore.
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Anyways, you are clearly incapable of imagine any other thoughts but your own, or recognize that depending hand size, not everyone will hold the mouse the same, or just have different preferences.

I already said that I agree that people have different prefrences, but everything you listed as a prefrence is just incredibly illogically silly. Such as putting your palm on the desk and using your mouse, or "hand strength" affect's choosing a mouse. You have demonstrated that you have no idea what you're talking about whatsoever and instead of properly refuting my statements you hypocritically cower behind "narrow minded troll!".

Lastly, you argument about writing programs for mice has nothing to do with the program your mouse uses and the game sensitivity. All three are separate programs, and you suggesting that the game interferes with default or select dpi settings on your mouse is silly. The game it self may have different default sensitivity settings which doesn't mean that the game has interfered with your mouse's program or dpi settings whatsoever.
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October 4, 2012 6:36:58 AM

If a pro gamer is using 800 DPI, he has to have turned up the mouse drivers "pointer speed" option, otherwise you'd have to move your mouse about a foot to be able to turn a full 180 degrees in game. 800 DPI barely moves with the "pointer speed" set to the middle.

Given that I have written programs using the mouse, I don't need you to tell me how all games use them the same. I know better. If you had Skryim, you may have seen things that aren't possible by your limited experience. If you alt-tab and back into Skyrim, half the time, the system mouse pointer will show along with the in game mouse pointer. What may shock you is that they move at different speeds and end up at different locations of the screen as you move the mouse.

Anyways, I'll stop letting you troll me.
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October 4, 2012 7:14:14 AM

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If a pro gamer is using 800 DPI, he has to have turned up the mouse drivers "pointer speed" option, otherwise you'd have to move your mouse about a foot to be able to turn a full 180 degrees in game. 800 DPI barely moves with the "pointer speed" set to the middle.

:heink:  This tells me that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You're obviously not a competitive gamer, and you don't have any friends or know anyone who does professional gaming. I want to make this clear so that you don't mislead someone.

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Given that I have written programs using the mouse, I don't need you to tell me how all games use them the same. I know better. If you had Skryim, you may have seen things that aren't possible by your limited experience. If you alt-tab and back into Skyrim, half the time, the system mouse pointer will show along with the in game mouse pointer. What may shock you is that they move at different speeds and end up at different locations of the screen as you move the mouse.

I'm saying that the games don't even use the mouse program! For the hundredth time they are seperate programs! The game does not affect the drivers of the mouse. YOU configure the software, not the game.

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Anyways, I'll stop letting you troll me.

This statement is just getting sad now. You say this and then you reply to me with even more nonsense. It's already been made clear that you're the one trolling considering all the bullocks you've been coming out with. You have no idea what it's like to be a pro gamer, you don't know how the software for your mouse works, and you've done nothing but provide silly reasons why someone would buy a mouse that I have refuted.
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October 4, 2012 12:25:27 PM

i guess you havent played all the cod games as each of them have there own mouse handling routines that do not affect the microsoft mouse settings in windows.
also the fact that companies like razer use there own proprietary mouse drivers again completely separate from the microsoft mouse driver that ships with windows.
to be blunt a lot of what i have read is incorrect on your part.
old mice would need yards of mat to turn 180 degrees but new mice with there higher poll rates, higher dpi, reduced prediction and zero point acceleration all help make the mouse more user friendly... i know gamers who user 1600 dpi and they whip butt 24/7 i also know gamers who like 2400-3200dpi and more often they will get crushed because they dont belive that lowering the fps helps aiming... at 3200 dpi your mouse is to sensetive and will travel twice across the screen for 1 inch on the mat.
but at 1600 dpi you move 1 inch and you move 1600 pixels on the screen. with the standard microsoft mouse driver...
now load up cod 4 and turn the mouse sensitivity up to the middle and your 1s 1600 dpi mouse is acting like a 3200 dpi mouse...
they do this in game totally bypassing microsofts mouse driver speed settings.
turn it back down to 1/4 and your mouse will behave normally again and if you decide for fun to turn it down to 0 then you will be back to the days of 400dpi...
me i set my mouse as close to my screen rez as i can get it. and if i cant get it to match exactly i will use the ratio of the monitor to set the mouses x and y... normally 16/9 (1600/900) this means i have all the speed and accuracy i could need... i have the speed to spin 180 with less than 2 inches of mouse travel on my mat, but i also have the sensitivity to pull of a 500 yard sniper shot. today its not an either or situation you can have the best of both worlds. you can have speed and accuracy on your mice. as for the weight thing. its only an issue if you constantly have to pick up the mouse and plonk it down again... this is more often only relevant with 400-800 dpi mice. 1600dpi and above will need less than 8 inches of travel. so unless your really confined you shouldn't need to pick the mouse up...
as i said my mouse is heavy but i still claw grip it. with the heel of my palm on the mat the palm on the palm reast and my pinky and thumb and wrist doing most of the work... and guess what i play games just fine...
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October 4, 2012 1:19:19 PM

Let me guess, this guy is in school for political debate and/or philosophy. Arguing for the sake of arguing because he obviously knows better because he's got some pro gamer friends. This has become very amusing, sad bystander won't keep it up, I've had a few chuckles reading thus far. :D 
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October 4, 2012 3:13:34 PM

It's possible he has a disorder not really in his control, like Aspergers.
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October 6, 2012 12:12:22 AM

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November 5, 2012 1:49:00 AM

Best answer selected by Adsuki.
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