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Killer NICs Comes to Laptops for Latency Freaks

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March 2, 2011 11:16:13 AM

how is thie company still in buisness >_<

ok its wireless n ... its fast but its not going to be any faster than most other wireless n card out thats of course basing it on comparing this to howthier network cards for pcs perform beacuse if bigfoot cards don't perform much if any better than the standard rj45 inbedded on your mobo ... and yet they still sell to people who "demand the best" (aka people with more money than sense)

i can see getting one of thier card for my pc in only one scenario given 2 criteria... 1 my onboard port dies for some reason, and its cheaper than a wireless card

but yea count me on the not wasting a dime on a useless "upgrade" sure to cost a good bit more on an already expensive laptop when the performance gains will almost certainly not be there
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March 2, 2011 11:19:23 AM

Marketing scam.
Onboard Nics are as fast if not faster then anything this company offers.
There are plenty of suckers out there though, they will probably still sell.
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a b D Laptop
March 2, 2011 11:23:18 AM

Given that Bigfoot is still in business, I guess PT Barnum was right: there really IS a sucker born every minute, and apparently they're buying NICs with snake oil!
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March 2, 2011 11:47:44 AM

If you listen closely, you can hear the sound of idiots being fleeced after being told that they *need* this. The money you would spend would be so much better used to get a SSD, go to a nice dinner, detail the car... and on and on.
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March 2, 2011 11:57:44 AM

g00fysmileyhow is thie...


yea migt wanto, prof reedyr comm.ents befor sub mit tham;
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March 2, 2011 12:05:21 PM

Fools and their money...
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March 2, 2011 12:06:35 PM

I have just installed a CAT6 wired gigabit network all round the house.

LAN party anyone?
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March 2, 2011 12:13:02 PM

I can upload and download files on my desktop over wired, while streaming Netflix over wireless through a wall with absolutely no problem at all.
These things won't help my ping at all either. My ping is because of my ISP, not my network equipment.
Invest ~$150 into a NIC, or invest $150 into a highend router? I settled for the router with no second though.

On a low budget build, these make absolutely no sense at all. On a high budget build, between multiple GPU's, sound card etc., do you have the room to put a killer NIC in without killing airflow to something important?
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March 2, 2011 12:44:00 PM

Does it include the features of the 2100? If so, it might be worth the investment for desktop replacement machines, but if it isn't running a dedicated network processor on the side to download stuff like the 2100 does, it's not worth it.
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March 2, 2011 12:53:00 PM

If you care about a 10-20ms latency improvement you buy, otherwise you don't. It is just another higher end product like SSDs, the latest video card, or the latest CPU. If you can afford the other high end components the chump change on a performance NIC is nothing.
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March 2, 2011 2:07:16 PM

Latency bottleneck is not and has never been in the NIC.

But I do like the fact that this company is still in business - means there are enough suckers with too much money around.
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March 2, 2011 2:10:51 PM

xyriinIf you care about a 10-20ms latency improvement you buy, otherwise you don't. It is just another higher end product like SSDs, the latest video card, or the latest CPU. If you can afford the other high end components the chump change on a performance NIC is nothing.

Or if you actually understand networking you would know this is a complete marketing scam. If you honestly care about latency you aren't going to be using wireless, and even on a wired connection your ISP is going to be the biggest influence in your latency, not the NIC card.

Some people just think throwing around money makes their PC faster, it doesn't.
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March 2, 2011 2:16:59 PM

If you buy any special high performance NIC you're waisting your money.
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March 2, 2011 2:44:38 PM

Only idiots will fall for this piece of crap.
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March 2, 2011 3:05:45 PM

Hey guys, everybody knows that a Killer NIC won't improve performance, the bottleneck is obviously in the cables running into it, this would only improve performance if you already have a setup with $200 Monster ethernet cables :p 
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March 2, 2011 4:27:41 PM

Bigfoot? The last I heard they made terribad hard drives, surprised they are still in business. I guess that was a long time ago when hard drives weren't what they are today
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March 2, 2011 4:31:45 PM

squantoBigfoot? The last I heard they made terribad hard drives, surprised they are still in business. I guess that was a long time ago when hard drives weren't what they are today



LOL wtf? Bigfoot didn't make hard drives. "Bigfoot" was a series of drives made by Quantum.
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March 2, 2011 4:32:32 PM

ballisticbuddhaHey guys, everybody knows that a Killer NIC won't improve performance, the bottleneck is obviously in the cables running into it, this would only improve performance if you already have a setup with $200 Monster ethernet cables

Haha. I was just thinking the same. You can only unleash the true power of a Killer Nic, with a set of Monster Ethernet Cables. This super enhanced mesh will pulverize any electromagnetic field that might influence this digital transmission. And those gold connectors are gonna insure a perfect contact and no rust for a lifetime. Comes with a 1 year garantee that we won't honor if we can.
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March 2, 2011 4:34:48 PM

mavroxurLOL wtf? Bigfoot didn't make hard drives. "Bigfoot" was a series of drives made by Quantum.


Wow I should know that, you are too right. The Quantum Bigfoot drive. Good call
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March 2, 2011 5:48:49 PM

one of the most unnecessary upgardes
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a b D Laptop
March 2, 2011 6:05:46 PM

Unless the rest of your network can take advantage of this wireless NIC (the claims are dubious, at best), then it is pretty much a moot point. Seems that every time Killer comes out with a new widget, we have this same discussion. It is déjà vu all over again....
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March 2, 2011 7:12:38 PM

What about if Tom's do us a favor and do a test review between this and other known high performance wireless networks and see the truth...(I think there's already a review of a Killer NIC)
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March 2, 2011 7:56:21 PM

the verdict is in: just not worth it
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March 2, 2011 8:50:37 PM

Don't really see a point to this...unless this thing magically removes obstacles or causes of EM interference there is no way it can do anything to make your wireless signal better/faster/more stable...utter nonsense...
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March 2, 2011 10:16:51 PM

It's all about marketing.
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March 2, 2011 11:05:19 PM

Its good to know that everyone here knows this is useless. I dont even need to put up with any fan boy crap. The universe finally makes sense in this comments section! Awesome comments everyone!
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March 3, 2011 2:57:32 AM

I think the reason they are in business is very simple. Their competition is Realtek and Intel. Niether of which take networking seriously. They recently hit caught the big fish. Motherboard manufacturers. Now we will be seeing some boards without Realtek in them at all.
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March 3, 2011 5:12:29 AM

If it can really do 450Mbps and they release USB 3.0 adapter, NIC-to-wifi adapter, and a dd-wrt or similar router setup, with the same chip, I'd be very interested.
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March 3, 2011 8:03:47 AM

dark_lord69If you buy any special high performance NIC you're waisting your money.

Not really, if say you want to have a file server on your local network with good performance streaming HD video etc then it is not a waste of money. But of course you're better off with an Intel server NIC than a bigfoot.

I'm not saying that what those OnBoard Realtek NICs have is not enough but a server NIC does have a considerably better performance, more sophisticated cable diagnostics features and takes some load off the CPU.
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March 3, 2011 11:36:09 AM

falchardI think the reason they are in business is very simple. Their competition is Realtek and Intel. Niether of which take networking seriously.


Intel is huge in the business sector with networking. They offer dual and quad NICs for servers and have advanced drivers that allow teaming and failover features. I'd rather put money into a nice Intel NIC than this Killer nonsense.
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March 3, 2011 11:55:08 AM

dark_lord69If you buy any special high performance NIC you're waisting your money.

No. Your money will only be around your waist if you do not spend it on this product. Personally, I not wasting my money on it...
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March 3, 2011 2:17:53 PM

aaron88_7Or if you actually understand networking you would know this is a complete marketing scam. If you honestly care about latency you aren't going to be using wireless, and even on a wired connection your ISP is going to be the biggest influence in your latency, not the NIC card.Some people just think throwing around money makes their PC faster, it doesn't.


I don't think you understand the intent of the product. They don't claim to control anything other than the network traffic processing on your computer. The dedicated card offloads CPU processing of network traffic. This gains benefit the same way something like a GPU offloads graphics processing. I guess next you'll say we should go back to CPU handling of graphics...lol. The next part deals with bypassing the Windows Network Stack to once again eliminte another system bottleneck.

It is true that wired is superior than wireless and a crappy ISP and/or traffic routing will still kill your overall latency. That isn't the point. The point is Bigfoot products can shave latency off your system. And while saving 10 to 20ms on your system may not seem like much when compared to 300ms to your favorite game server...it is still an improvment.
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March 3, 2011 2:34:30 PM

Another thing that makes you love Toms.

The Intel X-Labs picture story, and then almost home-made "Killer NIC"...

So, I'm going to prefer the garage-tweaked NIC over the Intel tested one?

I mean... yeah, this one is Wireless... then I stick to another maker that does test their products.
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March 3, 2011 2:57:17 PM

Next time, blur the image.

We can read Atheros Communications on the PCB! That's death standard
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March 3, 2011 3:23:28 PM

I have one of these in my desktop at home and I have to say that it has made a big difference in my latency. These NICs are especially useful if you're multitasking on your NIC (Example: Downloading torrents while playing games). Money is only better spent if your machine is dedicated to gaming and gaming only.

I, for one, do much more than just Game on my computer. I download movies, music, applications. I host ftp sites, web servers, and services for use on my local network. The Xeno assists in many of these tasks and keeps my ping low while my family uses services hosted on my machine. I don't have to purchase a new machine for hosting these services, and I retain my good ping times. That's a win/win in my book.

As stated above, there are reasons to want after-market NICs, but the bang for buck just isn't there if all you're doing is gaming. I feel most users that criticize Killer NIC simply do not see their computer for anything more than a gaming machine. Do yourselves a favor and think outside the box.
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March 3, 2011 6:11:29 PM

I don't know about Bigfoot's Killer NIC's or how much they cost, but there is some sense in upgrading to a higher-quality NIC when it comes to wireless networking. When I purchased my most recent laptop, I put in an extra $45 to upgrade to a higher-end Intel wireless NIC and I have been thoroughly pleased with the results.

With previous laptops (including my nightmare Macbook Pro) there were always locations in my home where the network was spotty, and during certain times (bad weather, planetary alignment, who knows?) the network could be spotty anywhere. With the upgraded Intel NIC, my wireless reliability is very near 100% no matter where I am.

As far as latency goes, I never bothered running any tests to compare my various wireless cards, but I do know that I still run about 12-ish ms higher on a wireless connection than if I connect via a cable.

If Bigfoot's wireless NIC's aren't terribly expensive and they offer significant improvements in reliability over cheaper models, then I can see greater justification for them than with their silly non-wireless desktop models.
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March 3, 2011 6:17:31 PM

Yay. I don't care. I'd rather spend the money on new case fans than an NIC... that's how big of a waste these things are.
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March 3, 2011 6:30:01 PM

I can stream Netflix and OnLive using my Wireless-G router and adapter. Considering that wireless is a shared medium, and your waiting/latency is more dependent on current network usage than processing power, this thing is bogus. I hope no one buys this piece of crap and Killer NIC goes bankrupt and that arrogant CEO of theirs loses his house and has to live on the street begging for change. When they had the Killer NIC for PCs, that was bad enough, but now, they're trying to sell us KillerNIC wireless adapters?
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March 3, 2011 7:44:00 PM

Interesting, now I will specifically avoid any laptops that include this NIC so I know part of the money isn't going into a cesspool of nothing.
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a b D Laptop
March 3, 2011 9:17:37 PM

Who is buying this crap. KILLER STUPID!!
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March 4, 2011 7:16:09 PM

It's Magic!!
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