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October 15, 2012 7:50:08 AM

Hello everyone, I've been reading alot on these forums lately and now I'm asking questions myself because I'm having a tough time trying to figure this stuff out, not be very computer savvy.

Alright, I'm looking to build a computer for playing Skyrim at ultra high 1920X1080. I would like to keep the framerate high enough that it is not noticeable (I'm assuming around 60?). I am also in the budget of about $500-600.

These are some of the items that I am looking at right now:
APEX TX-381-C Black Steel Micro ATX Tower Computer Case $33 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS 24X DVD Burner $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
APEX AL-D500EXP 500W ATX12V Power Supply $41 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Western Digital WD Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM $70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD FX-4170 Zambezi 4.2GHz (4.3GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor $105 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 $145 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I'm not sure about motherboards. I've found these two and I don't really know what I'd be getting with the extra $40 for the second one:

ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $84 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
BIOSTAR A780L3B AM3 AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard $44 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I want something that will run Skyrim well and will not break my wallet past $600. And I already have a 23" monitor. Unbiased help would be greatly appreciated. I do not lean one way or another as far as AMD or Intel goes, I just want honest answers and to stay within my price range.

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October 15, 2012 8:25:41 AM

If u gonna mod ur skyrim with superb end, 4k,2k, texture, sharpshooter enb etc, and 30+mod, ur fps might drop alot, enb is a little demanding, imo when playing skyrim with enb + mod, i think the worst place(if u have play skyrim) going to the south east of syrim map, orge vilage, it will surely drop alot

I didnt know much about amd board btw, seems the asrock support Sli, do you really need sli?
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October 15, 2012 1:55:28 PM

Skyrim Ultra High 1920x1080 @ 60fps? That is pretty demanding, not just on the GPU but the CPU as well. I have a 560 ti which can run Skyrim comfortably at the same settings but I have a better processor. Theoretically, your set-up should be fine but I would definitely look at the 660 or the 560 ti if you want to be sure.
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October 15, 2012 2:49:06 PM

Nordcompanion said:
Hello everyone, I've been reading alot on these forums lately and now I'm asking questions myself because I'm having a tough time trying to figure this stuff out, not be very computer savvy.

Alright, I'm looking to build a computer for playing Skyrim at ultra high 1920X1080. I would like to keep the framerate high enough that it is not noticeable (I'm assuming around 60?). I am also in the budget of about $500-600.

These are some of the items that I am looking at right now:
APEX TX-381-C Black Steel Micro ATX Tower Computer Case $33 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS 24X DVD Burner $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
APEX AL-D500EXP 500W ATX12V Power Supply $41 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Western Digital WD Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM $70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD FX-4170 Zambezi 4.2GHz (4.3GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor $105 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 $145 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I'm not sure about motherboards. I've found these two and I don't really know what I'd be getting with the extra $40 for the second one:

ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $84 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
BIOSTAR A780L3B AM3 AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard $44 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I want something that will run Skyrim well and will not break my wallet past $600. And I already have a 23" monitor. Unbiased help would be greatly appreciated. I do not lean one way or another as far as AMD or Intel goes, I just want honest answers and to stay within my price range.


If you're ready to lower your shadows.. Well your setup can run at 70 FPS. Ultra shadows... Don't. Go with high because unless you will screen shot and zoom in you shouldn't notice in gameplay. Your FPS will be dipping to 40 but 50 will you're average.
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October 15, 2012 3:20:34 PM
October 15, 2012 4:46:57 PM

Alright, after looking at the stats for the SAPPHIRE 100355-1GOCL Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit I'm sold on it, but I still have questions about the CPU. Why should I get any Intel processor over an AMD processor? I don't want any "fanboy" answers, I just want to know which would be better to use.
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October 15, 2012 5:55:37 PM

Nordcompanion said:
Alright, after looking at the stats for the SAPPHIRE 100355-1GOCL Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit I'm sold on it, but I still have questions about the CPU. Why should I get any Intel processor over an AMD processor? I don't want any "fanboy" answers, I just want to know which would be better to use.

Well two reasons:
1- Skyrim doesnt use more than two cores. So it run better on two more powerful cores vs four same power.
2- i3 are better for gaming. For other things 4170 wins.. But the 4170 uses more power. Please read the whole thing:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-4170-core-i3-322...
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October 15, 2012 5:56:43 PM

Nordcompanion said:
Alright, after looking at the stats for the SAPPHIRE 100355-1GOCL Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit I'm sold on it, but I still have questions about the CPU. Why should I get any Intel processor over an AMD processor? I don't want any "fanboy" answers, I just want to know which would be better to use.

And yes.. You will surely get the SSD right? It TOTALLY fits in your budget man.
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October 15, 2012 8:36:43 PM

IMO for skyrim get a 2gb+ GPU if you want to use the official HD DLC, Skyrim HD, vurts floral overhaul and other hi res texture packs. IMO the game looks great (for a DX9 game with no tesselation :(  ) with all those texture mods. Im very limted with my GTX 57 1.25gb card, I can use skyrim HD @ 1440p but not the HD DLC or the floral packs.

Worst case id recomend a 2gb 560ti, or better yet a 660ti (670 would be the best without being crazy :p  )

Also don't get an FX cpu, they are *** and a few games have serious issues with them. Try a phenom or i5.

holy *** this one is on sale: (nvm, its a refurb but still a good deal)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 16, 2012 3:29:40 AM

@ ProVisionOman: Um, yeah I just kinda ignored that... :p 

Alrighty, after more searching and fine tuning what I am looking for, I have come up with a build that I would like to attempt so that I can expand further in the future and also try to save some money. If there is anything wrong with this build like mismatching parts or something else, could somebody let me know? Alright, here it is:

CASE- $55 Rosewill FUTURE Gaming ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PSU- $33 COOLMAX V-500 500W ATX Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


CPU- $230 Intel i-5 3570k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


MOBO- $67 MSI B75MA-E33 LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


GPU- $195 HIS H785F2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM- $40 CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HDD- $80 Western Digital 1TB Caviar Green SATA Internal Hard Drive
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=...




And one more question: do I need the 2GB video card when I have 8GB of ram? I'm still not sure how that works.
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October 16, 2012 12:42:06 PM

Nordcompanion said:
@ ProVisionOman: Um, yeah I just kinda ignored that... :p 

Alrighty, after more searching and fine tuning what I am looking for, I have come up with a build that I would like to attempt so that I can expand further in the future and also try to save some money. If there is anything wrong with this build like mismatching parts or something else, could somebody let me know? Alright, here it is:

CASE- $55 Rosewill FUTURE Gaming ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PSU- $33 COOLMAX V-500 500W ATX Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


CPU- $230 Intel i-5 3570k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


MOBO- $67 MSI B75MA-E33 LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


GPU- $195 HIS H785F2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM- $40 CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HDD- $80 Western Digital 1TB Caviar Green SATA Internal Hard Drive
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=...




And one more question: do I need the 2GB video card when I have 8GB of ram? I'm still not sure how that works.


Two issues with the power supply.
1- you HAVE to get a 80 Bronze silver gold ANYTHING but at least something that says 80. Go here to know your power needs: www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

2- It doesn't have a PCIE power connector. The 7850 does need a single power connector. Don't think its too much or anything.. The 7970 needs one 6-pin and one 8-pin. The only video card that is capable of gaming that doesn't a power connector is the 7750. I don't think you would want it lol.

And about the video memory. The memory on your graphics card is around 5x faster than RAM. RAM doesn't have this crazy speeds. On video memory (for example) you're running about 100FPS. MAX you will get if you were using your RAM is 13FPS. So yeah. And 2GB is FAR from bottleneck. And I barely think you will be gaming at 1080p+ res from your budget. A 2560x1600 monitor is 1.5K lol. So what is your resolution? Dude the 680 has 2GB. So you should keep that in mind. If a 680 doesn't struggle form a 2GB memory... Why should you?
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October 16, 2012 12:45:08 PM

And take any of these three cards. The Sapphire one is amazing good in cooling. And the XFX has lifetime warranty (U.S. only if you're not from the U.S. like me there is no reason to go XFX)
www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N...|14-150-617^14-150-617-TS%2C14-150-642^14-150-642-TS%2C14-202-004^14-202-004-TS
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October 16, 2012 2:37:14 PM

actually skyrim only uses 2gb ram.. you have to do some modding to make use of more ram.. also most build has 1:2 in cpu:gpu ratio when it comes to price.. my advice for you to is to take tom's advice and follow this build except the motherboard. This is $500 dollar build but you can get a better video card or cpu if you want to make it $600..hehe.. at least with this one you already know the performance. You can use this as a benchmark if you want better performance you can get a better cpu/gpu. this can do 46 fps on ultra 1080p. if oc'ed goes up to 53.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-pc-overclock...
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October 16, 2012 9:23:47 PM

ProVisionOman said:
Two issues with the power supply.
1- you HAVE to get a 80 Bronze silver gold ANYTHING but at least something that says 80. Go here to know your power needs: www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

2- It doesn't have a PCIE power connector. The 7850 does need a single power connector. Don't think its too much or anything.. The 7970 needs one 6-pin and one 8-pin. The only video card that is capable of gaming that doesn't a power connector is the 7750. I don't think you would want it lol.

And about the video memory. The memory on your graphics card is around 5x faster than RAM. RAM doesn't have this crazy speeds. On video memory (for example) you're running about 100FPS. MAX you will get if you were using your RAM is 13FPS. So yeah. And 2GB is FAR from bottleneck. And I barely think you will be gaming at 1080p+ res from your budget. A 2560x1600 monitor is 1.5K lol. So what is your resolution? Dude the 680 has 2GB. So you should keep that in mind. If a 680 doesn't struggle form a 2GB memory... Why should you?


Ok, so I'll get the Bronze PSU that you recommended before. I have a 23" TV/monitor that runs my xbox at 1080i, but I also have a 60" HD TV that I could use on occasion. Would the 2gb card be justified for that? If not I'll go with the 1gb.

Also, could you recommend to me a fairly cheap PCIE connector? I still don't know how all the pins and stuff work yet, though I'm sure I'll start to once I start putting it together.
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October 17, 2012 11:31:54 AM

Nordcompanion said:
Ok, so I'll get the Bronze PSU that you recommended before. I have a 23" TV/monitor that runs my xbox at 1080i, but I also have a 60" HD TV that I could use on occasion. Would the 2gb card be justified for that? If not I'll go with the 1gb.

Also, could you recommend to me a fairly cheap PCIE connector? I still don't know how all the pins and stuff work yet, though I'm sure I'll start to once I start putting it together.

In graphic cards the size of a TV doesn't matter, Only the resolution. If you don't plan to mod Skyrim with graphical mods and gonna use the official HD DLC then at 1080p 1GB is enough. But ANY modding will require atleast 1.5GB. But wait. The 7850 only comes in 2GB -_-. And the PCIE connector comes with the Power Supply no worries. But as I said the power supply has to have a PCIE connector. To be safe AT LEAST two 6 pin power connectors.
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