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Geforce4 3DMark points: 2,400?!

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January 10, 2003 1:37:44 AM

Ohk, I've just ran my Chaintech GeForce4 MX440 through 3DMark and I got 2400 points !?! WHAT THE F**K ?! I'm running an AthlonXP 1600@1.4, an MSI KT3Ultra mobo, 512mb PC2700 Samsung RAM, Maxtor ATA133 40Gig HD, 300W PSU and so one... can anyone even temp to explain ? Thnx

Ahhh! It's 2003 and wait, whats this!? My computer didn't blow up! ... Well damn, there goes my new Athlon @ 333FSB and my inssurance claim... heheheh
January 10, 2003 11:17:08 AM

1, BIOS AGP settings (like AGP 1x).
2, driver version...
3, VIA 4 in 1 installed?
4, Chinatech instead of Chaintech :-)))
January 10, 2003 2:15:18 PM

I've done that much already - I know how to set-up a computer afterall. AGP is set to 4x, newest driver (2 weeks old), VIA 4 in 1 IS installed (again, 2 weeks old) and sorry buddy, but its CHAINTECH (<A HREF="http://www.chaintech.com.tw" target="_new">http://www.chaintech.com.tw&lt;/A>) ... any other suggestions ? Nonetheless, I'd like tobe able to run through everything to make sure its nothing stupid

Ahhh! It's 2003 and wait, whats this!? My computer didn't blow up! ... Well damn, there goes my new Athlon @ 333FSB and my inssurance claim... heheheh
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January 10, 2003 5:40:52 PM

Check the RAM sizes set to be used for your videocard inside your BIOS and drivers. Check if AGP wait states are disabled.

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January 10, 2003 6:37:13 PM

Wait states are disabled, and the RAM size is set at 64mb..

Ahhh! It's 2003 and wait, whats this!? My computer didn't blow up! ... Well damn, there goes my new Athlon @ 333FSB and my inssurance claim... heheheh
January 11, 2003 9:42:32 AM

You have 512MB RAM... so set the RAM size to 128 or 256MB. With AGP Aperture Size they mean the size of your internal RAM (and not video RAM) that can be used for additional video RAM.

My PC eats so much money that I'm in 'desperate' need of it to buy PC3500 RAM, help Svol with his OC project!
--- PM me for information.
January 12, 2003 6:22:23 PM

thanks, I'll try that and get back to you (hopefully) with a better score.

Ahhh! It's 2003 and wait, whats this!? My computer didn't blow up! ... Well damn, there goes my new Athlon @ 333FSB and my inssurance claim... heheheh
January 24, 2003 11:35:55 PM

well their could be a few things holding you back a little, but the fact is that card sucks, i know thats below the avg. score for that card on a system like yours, but still its not gonna ever be that high, 3ks.
theres nothing wrong with the via 4 in 1s theyre good dont uninstall them.

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January 26, 2003 4:36:47 AM

Gf4mx440 is crap. It is basically an updated Gf2, and doesnt even support DirectX 8.1. If you paid more than $40 bucks you got rammed.

If its not broken, you're not trying hard enough.
January 26, 2003 4:42:50 AM

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January 26, 2003 4:47:05 AM

Yes. The mx440 does not support DirectX 8.1. Thats why it skips the good test when you run 3Dmark2001. Did you think this was a high end card when you bought it? Its not the worst but 2400 is average for your box with that card.

If its not broken, you're not trying hard enough.
January 26, 2003 5:03:17 AM

of course i didn't think it was anything special, though I did believe in it a little more... at this point i'm going to get rid of it as soon as i can and probably go for either a Radeon 8500 All-In-Wonder (64mb) or a Ti4200

Woohoo! Broke the 30-celcius barrier with through the loud and innefficient world of air-cooling! Also, never - NEVER - play with gum in one hand and hair in the other... just trust me.
January 26, 2003 10:37:52 AM

2400 3DMarks average for that setup?!? No way, with almost the same setup and a GeForce2 MX 32MB I got around 2800 non-OC'ed and 3300 at maximum.

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dimms when I turn it on :eek: 
January 26, 2003 3:04:13 PM

My GF2ti makes about 6000 3DMark points, while the GF4MX440 that I recently plugged into my computer made just over 2000 pts. The simple fact is that MX = garbage. No amount of tweaking or reworking is going to make the card usable for anything more intensive than Quake 1.
January 26, 2003 4:10:39 PM

Well lets no exaggerate... Quake 3 Arena is playable at those cards only not at highest quality.
But you're right... those cards do suck. The geForce4 MX is just the GeForce2MX with a faster core and a slightly improved memory controller... but both don't even carry full DirectX 7.0 support: they don't have environment bump mapping.

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dimms when I turn it on :eek: 
January 28, 2003 7:12:06 AM

I have some problem about my home PC. It has configuration of P4 1.7 Ghz, Intel Original 845 PT card, 40 GB hard disk drive, 256 MB DDR [ 266 Mhz ] ram, OS is Win 98 SE Direct X 8.1. I recently tried to upgrade my Graphics card from RIVA TNT2 M64 [ Perks make ] to Geforce 2 MX 400 [ Lancer make ]. My problem is that the new card is not giving full performance as given in your magzine. I checked with 3D marks SE demo version. It gets only 950 marks at 1024 x 768 , 32 bit colors. Where as my old TNT2 card gets 850 marks at 1024 x 768, 32 bit colors. Geforce 2 MX 400 should get 2700 3D marks. Please tell me what is the problem.
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January 28, 2003 3:56:09 PM

Wow that is really low for even a GeForce2 MX. Do you have the latest drivers from NVidia installed? Is the AGP speed set the AGP 4x inside your BIOS? Is the AGP Aperture size set to 128MB inside your BIOS?

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dimms when I turn it on :eek: 
January 28, 2003 9:54:53 PM

Something is definitely not right there. You should be scoring about 5000 with the video card stock.

Could you check something real quick? Start up 3DMark2001 and click System Info, double-click Motherboard Resources, and then AGP Capabilities, and let us know what is reported. It should be AGP 4X enabled. If it says "AGP not enabled" (or something to that effect) then your 4-in-1 driver installation didn't take.

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February 1, 2003 6:11:12 AM

LOL, I pwn j00, I get 3600 with an old Slot 1 board running a Celeron and a cheap OEM version of the old Radeon DDR.

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February 4, 2003 7:31:31 PM

Thats interesting, I never knew that. Is there a big boost in performance when setting the aperture higher? (Or rather, are there any disadvantages) I have 512 ram as well.
February 8, 2003 4:18:14 AM

What OS are you using? If you're using an OS that has the System Restore capability and want to eek out a little extra performance, you should turn that off. System Restore runs in the background and if you have it enabled and can affect benchmarks.
February 8, 2003 10:10:53 AM

Well if your videocard runs low on RAM and needs to refresh it constantly because it can't place the textures anywhere else it can mean a great performance loss. It can be that with more AGP memory allocated heavy 3D games can use less RAM for other purposes beside 3D. So I suggest you set the AGP Aperture Size to 128 or 256MB... the memory will not be used when it isn't needed and can always be used by other apps.

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dimms when I turn it on :eek: 
February 8, 2003 5:08:21 PM

Sounds good, I set it to 256 I believe. Hopefully it makes some sort of difference hehe. Thanks for the help.
February 9, 2003 9:53:58 AM

No problem... if the results are still low post here and I will see if I can come up with more tweaks.

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dimms when I turn it on :eek: 
February 15, 2003 4:37:55 AM

i got a 3dmark of 4000 with a Radeon256 SDR 64meg, with a Duron 1gig and 384megs of SDRam at 100mhz-cas2

so yeah...... o.O
April 23, 2003 11:08:35 AM

Maybe you should try to fresh install everything in your computer. Disable all those background resource sucking programs. Somestimes it's the windows registry problem.

I got a Radeon 9100 (the lowest end one with DDR running at 160mnhz) and my initial score in 3d2001se was 2500+, I new something ought to be wrong...so I formatted my harddisk and reinstall everything with the most updated driver. And you know the score I got afterward? around 6100 without o/c! 7500 with both cpu and vid card o/c!

PIII733EB at 900
FSB 160mhz
Radeon9100 250core at 285 (ram 160mhz at 195 with modded PII big heatsink.)

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